When, on the rare occasion that I get offshore, I usually bottom fish. Snagging bottom is not
unusual. Typically I have to put maximum pressure on the snag by reeling the line as taught
as possible, then wrapping the line around the reel frame and pulling. This seems like a recipe
for disaster with graphite frames.
Comments?
G'day doc,
There are doubtless plenty of techniques but, if there's a bit of swell running, I always wrap around a cleat or railing - just tighten up in the lull and let the sea do the work.
If it's calm, I slip on a glove (or wrap a few loops around a piece of wood) and pull directly on the line.
I generally avoid using the rod and/or reel at all when snagged.
Hope that's of some help.
Cheers, Justin
I wrap the line around my Newell's all the time & never have had a problem & the boat that I work on always fishes rough bottom. We mostly use 8 oz sinkers.
The graphite reels that I'm using right now are a Penn GLS 40, which has 50 mono, and a Penn 545 with 25 mono. It's not likely to be an issue with either of these reels with the line that's on each.
I am however, considering a Shimano TLD star 15/30, to fish 65 lb braid for jigging.
I have used 65 PP / 60# top shot while fishing in N.H. & I treated my tackle the same way. We were fishing 300 - 400' of water at the time. i use either a P or G 332 Newell's which is the same as a 3/0 Penn.
Mike
Good replies! I love this site.
I wonder if the steady pull in this situation is less likely to cause damage to the frame, compared to fighting a big tuna.
There's a little tool to pull up snag. Its a heavy sinker with some wire that suppose to grab the swivel.
I've seen those tools. I thought they were just for light tackle. When you snag the reef it takes a lot to break off heavy mono
in 100 feet.
I just wrap the line around a short broom stick handle and pull.
Quote from: saltydog on June 18, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
I just wrap the line around a short broom stick handle and pull.
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Quote from: BMITCH on June 18, 2013, 06:23:25 PM
Quote from: saltydog on June 18, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
I just wrap the line around a short broom stick handle and pull.
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Yeah, I could see that working. I envision just taking multiple wraps on the broomstick until you get it tight enough to do more than just stretch the line. With mono, there's a lot of stretch in 100+ foot depths. Do you end up with the line all kinked up where it was wrapped on the broomstick?
I like the idea. I fish with braid a lot and break offs can be difficult.
No it straightens right out on the next snag. ;D ;D seriously, it doesn't kink up. I'm using mostly the Momoi braid and PP. they seem to straighten right out.
Bob
I have wrapping my line around my Graphite Newells for over 20 years to break a snag loose just as Mike described above. Never had a problem. Our first mate wraps line around his hands and pulls but he has some really tough paws.
Quote from: Newell Nut on June 19, 2013, 01:32:15 PM
I have wrapping my line around my Graphite Newells for over 20 years to break a snag loose just as Mike described above. Never had a problem. Our first mate wraps line around his hands and pulls but he has some really tough paws.
Wraps it around his hand :o :o scary stuff there!
Something I have learnt as I get older is that if you are fishing from the beach/over reef etc and there is some wave action, the following steps will assist.
1. As soon as you feel resistance stop pulling.
Be patient, don't rip, tear and bust
2. Let out a couple of metres of line to wash around in the waves.
3. Every 30 seconds try a light rewind, see step 1.
4. Repeat this as required, sometimes it has taken 3-4 minutes for this to work.
I reckon I have increased my successful retreival of the gear up to 75%
If all this fails carry a small section of broom stick in your tackle box
Quote from: BMITCH on June 19, 2013, 03:06:46 PM
Wraps it around his hand :o :o scary stuff there!
I wear gloves when I'm working for doing this, Spectra scares me.
Quote from: floating doc on June 18, 2013, 01:49:20 AM
When, on the rare occasion that I get offshore, I usually bottom fish. Snagging bottom is not
unusual. Typically I have to put maximum pressure on the snag by reeling the line as taught
as possible, then wrapping the line around the reel frame and pulling. This seems like a recipe
for disaster with graphite frames.
Comments?
You need the tool shown in the picture (similiar to an over sized lure retriever).
Using this tool will prevent damage to the mainline and reducing the loading on the rod and reel.
Simply latch on the tool onto the mainline and slide it down the mainline until you feel the front of
the tool (the u shape looking thick wire)latches itself onto the swivel. During the dropdown,
the mainline must be taught with little slack. Thereafter pull hard on the thick mono attached to
the tool while maintaining no slack on your mainline and your rig will break off.
The tool shown is the smallest size. The largest weighs about 5 lbs to reach deep water with
strong current. One can use thick mono of 200-300 lbs rating or any thick braided rope to attach
to the tool. The mono shown attached is rated at 300 lbs.
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z303/EvoX_2008/Lure%20Retriever/P1020111.jpg) (http://s195.photobucket.com/user/EvoX_2008/media/Lure%20Retriever/P1020111.jpg.html)
That is one nifty retriever.
I have to agree...thats a real fancy gizmo. ;)
I just hope that thing doesn't get snagged on the bottom while trying to retrieve the original gear. :P
Wrapping the line around the graphite frame. I would personally never do it. I have seen several newells with the graphite reel seat and support post where the line actually grooved into the graphite material. To me, it kinda makes the reel look very abused and ugly. Thats just me, I just like to keep my reels looking good.
As mentioned, I would just use a glove or a broom stick and let the drift of the boat move as I hold on and give it a good yank.
Depending on how much other people are on the boat with you. You could wrap the boat cleat or hang on tight with a glove or broom stick and drive the boat forward slowly. Depending on your pound test of mainline, just gotta hang on tight. Or again, if you don't trust that, just wrap it around the cleat and then drive the boat forward. :)