The creek behind the kid's school that's holding some LARGE carp...are they edible or just fun to catch...but then what's not fun to catch :P Heard one person describe them as a "muddy water bonefish" when hooked....so if faced with 20 lbs of live carp....how would you prepare it! Most things are good deep fried....
Tarfu, in my experience carp are soft and taste like mud. I'm sure someone here will blast me for that, but...I don't know if it's worth the effort. They are a lot of fun to catch though.
Bob
On TV I saw a restaurant in mid USA that sells over 2000 lbs of carp every week and has been in business for years so someone must like it. They had a headless, tailless, skinless fish with bone-in. They made up & down slices about every 2 inches. Then they breaded it with a flour, cornmeal mix and made sure to open up the cuts to get breading into every nook & crannie. Then they deep fried it. They have lots of return customers who can't believe they like carp.
Another memory is that I inherited my love of fishing from my dad. He would NEVER eat any fish so we gave a lot of fish away and we always gave the carp away. Most of the other fishermen trying to catch the carp were Asians or Blacks & they loved them. I am sure that someone must have a "secret" recipe they would be willing to share.
TomT
I was watching Bizarre Foods America with Andrew Zimmerman, he was in Minnesota, they catch them bow fishing and then smoked them. He said it kind of reminded him of smoked pork. I find that very hard to believe, but they were first brought to America by Europeans for food. But then again Europeans will eat anything...LOL.
If caught in clean water carp are good to eat, skin and smoke them.
Thank you for the advice....will give it a try....will keep you posted
The tv show Bottomfishers shows commercial fishermen catching carp as well as buffalo and catfish and selling them for consumption so apparently they are popular in some places. While living in Wisconsin I ate smoked carp a few times. It was ok, but not quite smoked salmon.
I've not tried crap yet, but for fish from muddy pond I'll suggest you make sweet sour fish or something with strong tasting sauce. I'll try to pull out some chinese recipe tomorrow ;-)
I used to eat cow's tongue, tripe, snakes, lamb brain and more. How bad could it be :-\.
Sal,
When I was a kid I caught like a 15# carp. I was sooooo excited about the big fish I had just brought home to my grandparents house that they cooked it up. My grandmother being off the boat French eat EVERYTHING. well needless to say this is one of the few times I ever saw her throw out anything edible. So tread lightly with the carp. Or maybe, just like bluefish you need the small cocktail blues in order to have a tasty fish. I dunno, but I can tell you that I don't think I'll go the carp route again. Buon appetite.
Bob
Just a comment Bob, I wouldn't touch that stuff and the other that I mentioned. Growing up I didn't have a choice.
i'm waiting for someone to say taste just like chicken ;D
If you have a good Chinese or Thai, Vietnamese restaurant in your hood- ask them if they will cook you a carp if you bring them some
Pepper-dry-fried carp, fish balls....soup.....they can do amazing things with carp
Quote from: Joel.B on June 21, 2013, 05:52:41 PM
If you have a good Chinese or Thai, Vietnamese restaurant in your hood- ask them if they will cook you a carp if you bring them some
Pepper-dry-fried carp, fish balls....soup.....they can do amazing things with carp
Fish balls ::) ::)
Sal, I've had cow's tongue. It's really a pretty piece of meat after you "skin" it. My wife's father used to eat strange things. When I would come over he would say " close your eyes and open your mouth". Of course I'm the only one that would. :o Hogs head cheese, squid stew with whole squid tentacles and eyes,etc. He used to smear the house phone with limburger cheese to keep my wife and brother in law from talking on it. My wife won't eat any of it now. Bob
My family has always eaten Beef Tongue. It's Kosher. I ate a triple decker sandwich in a Kosher Deli 3 weeks ago -- Corned Beef -- Pastrami -- Beef Tongue / Russian Dressing / Cole Slaw
Mike
Puts hair on your chest Mike ;)
Bob, you mentioned Hogs head I love that, especially nice and crispy. My father used to eat the eyes ::), he was as tough as nails.
If the hair was on my head I would like it better
Just got back from the creek.....Carp=1...Bill=0....even the Catfish won....guess that means the odds are getting better in my favor...will give it heck tomorrow in the am ;D Carp=2...Bill=0 odds getting better....sooner or later I got to catch one ;D
I grew up in Omaha, NB..
It was a treat to go to a place called Tess's.
They served Carp and it was very good..
Lot of small bones, every bite you had to chew carefully and pick the bones out as you ate.
But it was very good...
I was to young to know how it was prepared etc. But was not deep fried..
Maybe pan or grill fried?????
No clue what kind of carp either...
They did have a large aquarium with carp swimming in it.
Im sure that is why I thought it was so neat of a treat to eat there!!!!
My boy loves to catch them. But we don't eat them
Quote from: bluefish69 on June 21, 2013, 11:46:48 PM
My family has always eaten Beef Tongue. It's Kosher. I ate a triple decker sandwich in a Kosher Deli 3 weeks ago -- Corned Beef -- Pastrami -- Beef Tongue / Russian Dressing / Cole Slaw Mike
Any part of the beef is kosher, as long as the ritual slaughtering is observed.
I'm totally down with corned beef and pastrami (YUM!!) but the thought --and especially the sight-- of tongue gives me the willies. (http://home.comcast.net/~jcates1661/onlinestorage/faint.gif)
As for carp, I've eaten it in gefilte fish, but prefer the whitefish & pike variety. In fact, I'm having some home-made tonight for
Rosh Hashana! :)
~
A~
Carp are good to eat but not my favorite.
All That chat about food made me felt like a weirdo.
I really like cow tongue, cow Guts, cow whole head you cut the cheeks, líps, tongue, even eyes and make the best birria (kind of BBQ) tacos.
After reading that I think I will skip supper. :-[
Its really not That bad, you would neveras know, only if someone tell you
first You see this
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMl_QrFNzqc-PZj4EcyJsP9gn8YAQTtVs1HuFXxpH-B3mP4yw8kV8FuXiaEg)
Few hours later you will see this
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTS3WJ8n1z0vRwjcmKdSID0WjlAbURh4kVvQBsJ1VjTLoAwMpP2)
Few minutes later you will eat this
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTovtGtWSIFElXRQ1tRBwPzwTXa0r50lkbhcGuGl4rcC6Ft7Iy5)
Sorry for hijack the thread.. I say go for the Carp and search for Carp recepies on the web
Quote from: broschro on September 13, 2015, 08:58:57 PM
My boy loves to catch them. But we don't eat them
The one pictured is a White Amur or Grass carp...which is Not a carp at all but a member of the minnow family...albeit on steroids. Their meat is white and flaky when cooked and reputedly quite good tasting.
The common carp is full of Y bones...not eaten one yet but catch them as my primary target species.
Quote from: steelfish on September 14, 2015, 12:57:03 AM
Its really not That bad, you would neveras know, only if someone tell you
first You see this
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMl_QrFNzqc-PZj4EcyJsP9gn8YAQTtVs1HuFXxpH-B3mP4yw8kV8FuXiaEg)
Few hours later you will see this
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTS3WJ8n1z0vRwjcmKdSID0WjlAbURh4kVvQBsJ1VjTLoAwMpP2)
Few minutes later you will eat this
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTovtGtWSIFElXRQ1tRBwPzwTXa0r50lkbhcGuGl4rcC6Ft7Iy5)
Sorry for hijack the thread.. I say go for the Carp and search for Carp recepies on the web
Now I'll skip breakfast too. :-[
Quote from: Aiala on September 13, 2015, 09:10:42 PM
Quote from: bluefish69 on June 21, 2013, 11:46:48 PM
My family has always eaten Beef Tongue. It's Kosher. I ate a triple decker sandwich in a Kosher Deli 3 weeks ago -- Corned Beef -- Pastrami -- Beef Tongue / Russian Dressing / Cole Slaw Mike
Any part of the beef is kosher, as long as the ritual slaughtering is observed.
I'm totally down with corned beef and pastrami (YUM!!) but the thought --and especially the sight-- of tongue gives me the willies. (http://home.comcast.net/~jcates1661/onlinestorage/faint.gif)
As for carp, I've eaten it in gefilte fish, but prefer the whitefish & pike variety. In fact, I'm having some home-made tonight for Rosh Hashana! :)
~A~
I went back to Mill Basin Kosher Deli for my Birthday dinner last night. There was 6 of us. I had the same triple decker sandwich. They charge extra for Tongue on a sandwich
Mike
If you haven't tried cabeza tacos you don't know what you are missing. Also Birria stew. All good stuff. We Italians eat capozzelli (roasted sheep head) it is quite good when properly seasoned. Dominick
Quote from: Dominick on September 14, 2015, 06:05:32 PM
If you haven't tried cabeza tacos you don't know what you are missing. Also Birria stew. All good stuff. We Italians eat capozzelli (roasted sheep head) it is quite good when properly seasoned. Dominick
Thanks Dominik, now I want Birria for breakfast..
that capozzelli plate sounds like an another normal plate over here too, normally sheep head follow the same luck of the cow head, served on tacos or as Birria soup/stew.. I know this will not surprise any of you, but you can made tacos of everything ;D
I had a Mexican friend who used to say "my mother makes tacos out of everything. Don't stand still too long or my mother will make a taco out of you." Then he would laugh uproariously. :D :D Dominick
I went to China a couple years back and the businessmen I visited were somewhat surprised that I was up to try anything, and that I had eaten turtle previously. I explained that being from the rural South we will shoot/catch about anything and fry it...we got deep fried bacon for God's sake. My HOA president got drunk and shot a goose in my pond from the back of my shop with my pellet gun... He went in a stew (the goose, not the president. He was stewed from playing golf).
Steve-O lived in my neck of the woods and I'm sure went to a pig pickin'. I will tell you that when you break that red wax cap on a Makers at 0500 to start cooking, you will eat the tongue when done. It's quite good.
As to carp: well, the old skoolers would say put it on a board in a pasture and cover it with cow crap. Let it macerate a week or so. Throw away carp and crap and eat board. But they do fight well.
J
Quote from: thorhammer on September 15, 2015, 03:10:41 AM
I went to China a couple years back and the businessmen I visited were somewhat surprised that I was up to try anything, and that I had eaten turtle previously. I explained that being from the rural South we will shoot/catch about anything and fry it...we got deep fried bacon for God's sake. My HOA president got drunk and shot a goose in my pond from the back of my shop with my pellet gun... He went in a stew (the goose, not the president. He was stewed from playing golf).
Steve-O lived in my neck of the woods and I'm sure went to a pig pickin'. I will tell you that when you break that red wax cap on a Makers at 0500 to start cooking, you will eat the tongue when done. It's quite good.
As to carp: well, the old skoolers would say put it on a board in a pasture and cover it with cow crap. Let it macerate a week or so. Throw away carp and crap and eat board. But they do fight well.
J
I hear ya, brother! I sure do miss a good pig picking....just thinking about standing around the smoker for a pre-taste is killing me....out here barbeque is the term they use for cooking out the grill. If I had to guess I would say pig picking ends at the Big Muddy and doesn't make it out west. Haven't had hush puppies, collards, Brunswick stew, good coleslaw and bbq sandwiches in a while. Shoot man they don't even eat fried chicken out here. But there is a KFC now and then in the valley.
On the other side of the coin...our corporate office where I work at a nationally franchised deli chain has a restaurant attached and manned by Latinos who whip up the "real deal" every day in the back. Mostly, it's too "muy caliente" for me but we have had a few bovine heads prepared here. They even asked me for a fresh carp to make ceviche out of. The guys tells me it's Mexican Viagra and then do fist pump when saying it. .....uhhhhh....that comment should rate as PG-13 I suppose. I passed on the carp ceviche.
I do fish (Alaskan halibut and salmon) tacos more often than not and the deli manager, Ivonne taught me how to make the best guacamole and she makes Flan to die for. I've even taking a liking to horchata.
Steve, I'll send you some stew in dry ice next one I cook; I'll let you know but it won't be long. Just felled both cherry and apple tree for some good smoke....
Quote from: Steve-O on September 15, 2015, 02:27:00 PM
........ has a restaurant attached and manned by Latinos who whip up the "real deal" every day in the back. Mostly, it's too "muy caliente" for me but we have had a few bovine heads prepared here. They even asked me for a fresh carp to make ceviche out of. The guys tells me it's Mexican Viagra and then do fist pump when saying it. .....uhhhhh....that comment should rate as PG-13 I suppose. I passed on the carp ceviche.
I do fish (Alaskan halibut and salmon) tacos more often than not and the deli manager, Ivonne taught me how to make the best guacamole and she makes Flan to die for. I've even taking a liking to horchata.
LOL those comments put a smile on my face imaging those compadres telling you that ceviche is the Mexican viagra..I think you should try it not becasue you need the viagra thing ;D but for testing the ceviche plate, next time, tell those guys on the kitchen that you will get them halibut instad of Carp for the ceviche, its really 3x much better in flavor.
ceviche is another of those plates that can be made outta almost any fish with white meat the less spines they have the better, you name it, corvina, shark, spanish mackerel (sierra), bonita (skipjacks), tuna, triggerfish (my favorite), etc, from freshwater you can use largemouth bass, carp and catfish.
ceviche is always good with some catsup, few drops of Tabasco and avocado slices on top.
this is sashimi triggerfish, almost same than ceviche, but ceviche has a lot of vegetables, this is just the fish and few oinions
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12865.0
Quote from: Dominick on September 15, 2015, 12:42:48 AM
I had a Mexican friend who used to say "my mother makes tacos out of everything. Don't stand still too long or my mother will make a taco out of you." Then he would laugh uproariously. :D :D Dominick
There are a couple of places in San Mateo that serve Biria, mostly on weekends. One is a small joint walking distance from me on the Belmont/San Mateo line. Right behind the Mollie Stone's and CVS on 42nd and El Camino.
I didn't know about that place. How is the food overall? I am looking for an authentic Mexican restaurant in the area. The best so far is El Metate on Harbor Blvd. Great chilie rellenos and cabeza. Dominick
Quote from: Dominick on September 15, 2015, 07:41:14 PM
I am looking for an authentic Mexican restaurant in the area.
I know what is looking for authentic mexican restaurants in USA.
I spent almost 4 months few years ago working on the corporative offices which are in Denver, Co. of my current job (I live and work in Baja).
after few weeks you really miss the mexican flavor on the food, it was a trial and error job for few days trying those "authentic Mexican rest" until found few of them that really get you on the correct flavor, cheff, cashier and waiters were mexican descendents and speak nice spanish, its was nice to order "chiles rellenos" and "machaca con verduras", "pozole" in spanish LOL, were good times.
they are there you just have to find them
Quote from: kmstorm64 on September 15, 2015, 07:14:49 PM
There are a couple of places in San Mateo that serve Biria, mostly on weekends. One is a small joint walking distance from me on the Belmont/San Mateo line. Right behind the Mollie Stone's and CVS on 42nd and El Camino.
Looking for birria (goat stew) on the peninsula??
You MUST try taqueria gonzalez on Middlefield Rd. in Redwood City!!!! I know Dominick's been there.
Wayne
Quote from: El Pescador on September 15, 2015, 11:57:24 PM
Quote from: kmstorm64 on September 15, 2015, 07:14:49 PM
There are a couple of places in San Mateo that serve Biria, mostly on weekends. One is a small joint walking distance from me on the Belmont/San Mateo line. Right behind the Mollie Stone's and CVS on 42nd and El Camino.
Looking for birria (goat stew) on the peninsula??
You MUST try taqueria gonzalez on Middlefield Rd. in Redwood City!!!! I know Dominick's been there.
Wayne
Yep authentic goat. Very gamey but very good. Dominick
Quote from: steelfish on September 15, 2015, 08:06:49 PM
I know what is looking for authentic mexican restaurants in USA.
I eat at a "glorified roach coach", a small dive in the "more Mexican" part of town, several times a week. Most of the customers and employees don't speak English, the food is excellent but no fish. When Bryan was here I took him there to eat.
Quote from: Keta on June 21, 2013, 12:00:33 PM
If caught in clean water carp are good to eat, skin and smoke them.
I haven't eaten a carp yet, but when I do it'll be done this way! Probably brined a bit beforehand...
brought a big one back from a lake when I was a kid to my grandparents house. Grandpa made me dig a hole next to the fruit trees to bury the "Turd Shark". I will never forget.
TURD SHARK...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Turd Shark?......Owww that hurts.....funny as all get out....but still....this is my favorite freshwater gamefish.
Heard them called the Golden Bonefish and Bugle Lips but not this.
I love tongue and a few other things mentioned, also barbacoa (cheek meat). One thing that cracks me up is when I hear the phrase "authentic Mexican Food". What is that? Mexico is a huge country divided by two mountain ranges, and I don't think they have been exchanging recipes over the mountains. What is authentic on the Texas side may be unheard of on the west coast. People tend to eat what is available, so on the west coast, a lot of fish. In Chihuahua, Coahuila or Nuevo Leon, not so much. In and around Monterey, there is a heavy French influence with lots of sauces etc. It is sort of like saying "authentic American food". What exactly is that?
Quote from: Steve-O on February 19, 2016, 04:21:03 PM
Turd Shark?......Owww that hurts.....funny as all get out....but still....this is my favorite freshwater gamefish.
Heard them called the Golden Bonefish and Bugle Lips but not this.
This is not how I feel about them just grandpa having grown up fishing for trout, salmon and steelhead. Did not mean to dis your target fish! I know in England it is huge! Fish is fish as long as it fight on the end of your line!
Andy
Back in the day, much like swans, carp were considered food only for the British royalty. Not sure about carp, but even today swans are still not permitted to be eaten by the common English citizens. My knowledge is kind of rusty, though, so don't take my word for it.
This is not how I feel about them just grandpa having grown up fishing for trout, salmon and steelhead. Did not mean to dis your target fish! I know in England it is huge! Fish is fish as long as it fight on the end of your line!
Andy
No feelings hurt.... my remark was tongue in cheek..... I think Turd Shark is hilarious and an appropriate nick name.....and I should have specified this is my favorite freshwater TRASH fish.
I fish Alaska salt and fresh water every year and really enjoy Silver Salmon angling when they come up the rivers.
Here in Utah the Carp is the biggest species in town. The trout are mostly stockers that wouldn't fit a hot dog bun. A 20-24 inch trout is a trophy. for me? more like a 20-24 # carp is the trophy.
My freezer is stocked with salmon, halibut and rock fish. The Utah waters are full of carp and everyone hates them.
Carp is fantastic gamefish...Also appreciated on the table, smoked and marinated ranks as a specialty in many parts of Europe