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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: joel8080 on June 27, 2013, 11:59:57 AM

Title: 113HN Reel
Post by: joel8080 on June 27, 2013, 11:59:57 AM
Is any one out there producing a SS gear sleeve or plan on making them out of SS for the Penn 113HN?, it seems to be the only part that need's updateing on the reel aside from the additional bearings & the metal Star drag that was a upsate by Penn.

Joel 8080
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: Dominick on June 27, 2013, 07:37:04 PM
In my opinion they also need to update the flimsy dog spring. Dominick
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: joel8080 on June 27, 2013, 09:24:02 PM
I agree with you 100% they are poor at best but I have had no problems in eather of my reels with the springs, but a spring a little bit heavier would be great.

Joel 8080
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: Alto Mare on June 27, 2013, 11:10:20 PM
Same here, no problems with mine. Dominick, if you need them stiffer, nest two springs together.
The Tank is packed and I don't feel like taking it apart again, but if you need to have it, I could add another spring.
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: basto on June 28, 2013, 12:06:18 AM
Are you guys talking about the "tank" or the Baja? I agree that the Baja`s dog springs appear to be a little light.
The gear sleeve on the Baja is a better, more efficient design than the earlier Senators, so I don`t think it needs to be SS.
Just my humble opinion.
Basto
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: Alto Mare on June 28, 2013, 12:33:16 AM
Ooops, I think you'e right Basto, they probably talking about the Baja.
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: basto on June 28, 2013, 02:07:28 AM
Hi Sal
I just looked up the SS gear sleeve for my Torque 200 because it is very similar to the Baja`s sleeve and they both are part 98..., but the Torque`s is about 1/2 inch longer. Interestingly, the same size sleeve is used in the 100 and 300 also.
I`m now wondering if the inside diameter of the drag washers is the same for the Torque and Baja.
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: Alto Mare on June 28, 2013, 09:14:42 AM
Basto, the part nuber 98 is used for any sleeves, the second number determines the size. I don't have those reels, but from looking at scotts I noticed that the 98-100 will work with the 200 & 300, not the 113HN. Also, the 5-100 main gear will work with the 113HN, but not the 200 & 300.
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: joel8080 on June 28, 2013, 12:09:34 PM
It's the Baja were talking about the gear sleeve is beefer then my Senators but I worry about the top of the sleeve where the handle sits can it take the same torque as a SS sleeve, as for the dog springs can they be doubled up ? it would be a quick fix to that problem.

I have had no problem's with the 2 Baja's that I have and they are proberly my favorite all around reel I have them about 6 years and they have never lost a beat but I would like to stay ahead of possible problems.

Joel8080
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 28, 2013, 04:19:16 PM
While it's good to lightly grease all the internals of a reel to prevent corrosion, I don't grease where the dog slides against the bridge. I've had sluggish dog action until I wiped the grease away. ;)
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: Ron Jones on June 28, 2013, 06:20:51 PM
Absolutly,
I've actually reassembled a reel and had it go knuckle buster on me. Solution? wipe excess grease off bridge.

Ron
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: basto on June 29, 2013, 12:02:48 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on June 28, 2013, 09:14:42 AM
Basto, the part nuber 98 is used for any sleeves, the second number determines the size. I don't have those reels, but from looking at scotts I noticed that the 98-100 will work with the 200 & 300, not the 113HN. Also, the 5-100 main gear will work with the 113HN, but not the 200 & 300.
Thanks Sal!  I have learned a lot from you.
Title: Re: 113HN Reel
Post by: Ron Jones on June 29, 2013, 02:40:35 AM
Looking at the ratchets on Scott's I'd say they are different.
Ron