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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Ambassadeur Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: tncathunter on August 08, 2013, 08:35:41 PM

Title: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: tncathunter on August 08, 2013, 08:35:41 PM
anybody have a couple abu C4 winch reels for sale or know of a couple of sets of gears    thanks
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: Keta on August 08, 2013, 08:48:48 PM
5600 C4 or 5601 C4?


http://www.abugarcia.com/support/reel-schematics?field_schem_numb_value=c4+winch
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: Bryan Young on August 08, 2013, 08:50:53 PM
You may be able to get it from Pure Fishing's parts deparment.
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: 0119 on August 08, 2013, 09:25:55 PM
I remember Ken D. saying Abu no longer had the 3.8:1 gear set.  I've been watching ebay for one for awhile, no luck.
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: tncathunter on August 08, 2013, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: Keta on August 08, 2013, 08:48:48 PM
5600 C4 or 5601 C4?


http://www.abugarcia.com/support/reel-schematics?field_schem_numb_value=c4+winch
5600 or 4600    thanks
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: Keta on August 08, 2013, 09:50:37 PM
I have a LH set but they are in a reel.
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: tncathunter on August 08, 2013, 09:58:09 PM
I'd be interested in a whole reel but i tried a lefty one time and ...well let's just it wasn't pretty    lol
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: Ken_D on August 11, 2013, 07:20:39 PM
Quote from: 0119 on August 08, 2013, 09:25:55 PM
I remember Ken D. saying Abu no longer had the 3.8:1 gear set.  I've been watching ebay for one for awhile, no luck.

Yuppers, the 3.8-1 ratio in RH drive is toast, for the gearset featuring the 3-drag array inside it.
However, there is a slim possibility that the ~earlier~ winch gearset in uc _transition_ with the older 2 drag gear (one in, one underneath), and the ultracast spool, _might still be out there_.

It would take some rummaging through the drawings to arrive at this unit, (I can't remember what year, or what 5 it was in) and then Pure Fishing might also have run out of them.  I check the eeb, eh? quite often, and rarely see used one come up.
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: Ken_D on August 11, 2013, 07:30:32 PM
Got it.  http://www.abugarcia.com/sites/default/files/schematics/5000WINCH%2089-0.PDF

Note: if you are converting a present day 4-5-6 reel to the winch, (if P/fshg has them 1-800-abugarcia)  You will need to order in the correct older reel size axle, and the gearset, unless you happen to have an older hybrid reel in the drawer. You might have to fool around with sideplates, shims, driveshafts as well.
Unless, again, you happen to have an older hybrid reel in the drawer.
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: Ron Jones on August 11, 2013, 09:44:35 PM
Isn't it funny how we are never happy? We do whatever we can to slow down fast reels and speed up slow reels. I do not atribute this to marketing goofs, I think it is just human nature to tinker.

Ron
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: Ken_D on August 11, 2013, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on August 11, 2013, 09:44:35 PM
Isn't it funny how we are never happy? We do whatever we can to slow down fast reels and speed up slow reels. I do not atribute this to marketing goofs, I think it is just human nature to tinker.

Ron

Yup... A bass angler wants the quickest retrieve possible to get the next cast out, and the musky angler wants the 'torquiest' reel, for Mr. Big's scrap. The bass folks won the consumer war, otherwise the slow ratio would still be out there.
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: tncathunter on August 12, 2013, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on August 11, 2013, 09:44:35 PM
Isn't it funny how we are never happy? We do whatever we can to slow down fast reels and speed up slow reels. I do not atribute this to marketing goofs, I think it is just human nature to tinker.

Ron
That makes us sound like a bunch of women.  But it's true !    ;D
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: Keta on August 12, 2013, 03:25:57 PM
Manufactures have to sell to the masses and build their reels for the latest fad. The latest fad often does not work in all/most cases, high speed and more ball bearings than needed are good examples.
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: 0119 on August 13, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
And its only getting worse. Have you seen he new St. Croix Inshore rods? White foam grips with white skin, white reel seats, white blanks with white wrappings!
Title: Re: looking for abu C4 winch gears or reel
Post by: Ron Jones on August 13, 2013, 03:35:28 AM
Why would I want to try to keep white grips clean?
Ron