Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Bryan Young on August 12, 2013, 07:52:58 PM

Title: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on August 12, 2013, 07:52:58 PM
Hello guys/gals,

these will be the new handle arms provided in stainless.  We are more traditionalist and like the original design from Penn, so we stuck with the common look of the arm.  These will allow you to keep the traditional look while being able to install your own handle preference.  

SS prototype will be available shortly for viewing, then sale via Alan.

Bryan
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: alantani on August 12, 2013, 08:25:05 PM
nice work, bryan!  it's looking like another $2000 project. 
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: saltydog on August 12, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
Very nice I will definitely be picking a few up.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 13, 2013, 10:43:42 AM
Will these be for the 114H?  :P
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on August 13, 2013, 02:56:22 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 13, 2013, 10:43:42 AM
Will these be for the 114H?  :P
the last one will. They are for jigmaster/suidders/longbeach/...; then 113H; then 114H from top to bottom.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 13, 2013, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on August 13, 2013, 02:56:22 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 13, 2013, 10:43:42 AM
Will these be for the 114H?  :P
the last one will. They are for jigmaster/suidders/longbeach/...; then 113H; then 114H from top to bottom.
Awesome! 8)
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: ChileRelleno on August 14, 2013, 12:42:36 AM
Price for 114H with 6/0 handle?
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on August 14, 2013, 01:02:30 AM
will post prices once we confirm the prices.

I haven't fully decided on the type of stainless yet.

301, 304, 316, 17-4,...  will be working the the cutter and a machinest to determine what is the best SS to use considering our usage.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: floating doc on August 14, 2013, 01:34:16 AM
What about the 112H?
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on August 14, 2013, 02:24:37 AM
Quote from: floating doc on August 14, 2013, 01:34:16 AM
What about the 112H?
same as the jigmaster arm.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: George4741 on August 14, 2013, 04:09:46 AM
Bryan, how thick will they be?  I hope they are as thick as the Khanh Tran Special at .160".  I luv that handle arm. :-*
  George
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: alantani on August 14, 2013, 06:32:03 PM
the original idea was to make them the same thickness as stock, so that they would fit on the gears sleeves the same as stock.  not sure that the original thickness is, but they will be the same as the original arms. 
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on August 14, 2013, 06:34:33 PM
Quote from: George4741 on August 14, 2013, 04:09:46 AM
Bryan, how thick will they be?  I hope they are as thick as the Khanh Tran Special at .160".  I luv that handle arm. :-*
  George
Requested thicknesses are:

1.    Jigmaster Arm - ~0.113 in. thick

2.    4-0 Arm - ~0.114 in. thick

3.    6-0 Arm - ~0.158 in. thick

Then selection will be based on available SS and available thickness for the SS selected.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: doradoben on August 15, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
Will the 4/0 & 6/0 be the standard Penn length?
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 15, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
I think the my new Stainless arm shortage is about over! ;D
Who is going to have them First? Alan or Lee?  :-*
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Keta on August 15, 2013, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 15, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
I think the my new Stainless arm shortage is about over! ;D
Who is going to have them First? Alan or Lee?  :-*

I have them in 500/112H, 113H/349, 114H and the large Senators in non standard lengths but they are a PIA for me to polish and Alan has more $ invested in them than I do.

I can do custom ones if anyone wants to deal with polishing them themselves but I'm not planning on doing a production run.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: BMITCH on August 15, 2013, 03:34:06 PM
Lee, you sent me one for the 6/0 right?
Bob
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on August 15, 2013, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 15, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
I think the my new Stainless arm shortage is about over! ;D
Who is going to have them First? Alan or Lee?  :-*
It's not about who's going to have them first, nor are we competing with Lee.  My designs are solely based on Penn's traditional design of their current chrome plated brass handle and arms.  The reason we decided to do this is to provide an arm where we do not need to take a perfectly good handle and arm, then drill out the handle, then add a new handle.  This causes us more work.  So when you think about it, our motives are selfish based on labor.  If we could just take an arm blank and just screw on a handle, it makes me a happier camper.

We didn't think that this move was going to interfere with Lee's offering as his are more of the customize look, longer arms,...  My design are based on Penn's multi-hole stock arm design.

Bryan
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Keta on August 15, 2013, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on August 15, 2013, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 15, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
I think the my new Stainless arm shortage is about over! ;D
Who is going to have them First? Alan or Lee?  :-*
It's not about who's going to have them first, nor are we competing with Lee.  My designs are solely based on Penn's traditional design of their current chrome plated brass handle and arms.  The reason we decided to do this is to provide an arm where we do not need to take a perfectly good handle and arm, then drill out the handle, then add a new handle.  This causes us more work.  So when you think about it, our motives are selfish based on labor.  If we could just take an arm blank and just screw on a handle, it makes me a happier camper.

We didn't think that this move was going to interfere with Lee's offering as his are more of the customize look, longer arms,...  My design are based on Penn's multi-hole stock arm design.

Bryan

X2.  It's more about making parts available but still making it worth tying up my time.  I can cut individual pieces, make small ruins and draw up custom parts.

Quote from: BMITCH on August 15, 2013, 03:34:06 PM
Lee, you sent me one for the 6/0 right?
Bob

I finished drilling and taping yesterday and put the first one on my 114HN, yours will be in the mail soon.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 15, 2013, 08:06:03 PM
Its not about competition Bryan. I'm just happy to get ss arms for the 114H. I have been looking for a while. Just making Conversation. ;D
You guys are the best! ;)
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: BMITCH on August 15, 2013, 11:20:44 PM
Thanks Lee. ;D
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: alantani on August 16, 2013, 06:11:06 PM
lee's design is for a more heavy duty application.  the one that bryan designed is just a copy of the penn arm, so it will be the same light duty applications as the stock arm, nothing more.  if you need more umphhhhh, you will need a longer arm like the one that lee is making.  the one we have is more for everyday use with no worry about corrosion. 
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Keta on August 18, 2013, 02:30:42 PM
I'm only doing custom and long handles and will make them for any reel.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: floating doc on August 19, 2013, 02:03:54 AM
I would like to have one for my 112HN.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: edgarz on October 09, 2013, 12:50:25 AM
Will this fit Talica 8II and 10II reels as well?
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on October 16, 2013, 07:28:30 AM
Quote from: edgarz on October 09, 2013, 12:50:25 AM
Will this fit Talica 8II and 10II reels as well?
Unfortunately, they will not fit Talicas.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on October 16, 2013, 07:30:46 AM
Here are the SS Arms.  The arms cost $8 plus shipping if purchasing the arms.  If purchasing the arm and handle, the cost for the arm is only $8.  Comparison pictures to follow.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on October 16, 2013, 07:33:04 AM
Penn Jigmaster, including Squidders, 60 series, Long Beach Series, 112/H, 113,...
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on October 16, 2013, 07:33:30 AM
Penn 4/0 (113H)
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on October 16, 2013, 07:42:32 AM
And Penn 6/0s and 9/0s (114, 114H, 115)
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on October 16, 2013, 07:45:09 AM
And last, for my friend's reel...A red accurate knob for a 114H...
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Dynamo on October 16, 2013, 07:50:17 PM
The arms cost $8 plus shipping if purchasing the arms.  If purchasing the arm and handle, the cost for the arm is only $8.

The arm costs 8 dollars not counting shipping, but the same arm with the knob costs 8 dollars shipped? Did I read that right? And are 12/0-14/0 handles going do be an option later on? Those handles look rugged.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on October 17, 2013, 01:52:34 AM
Quote from: Dynamo on October 16, 2013, 07:50:17 PM
The arms cost $8 plus shipping if purchasing the arms.  If purchasing the arm and handle, the cost for the arm is only $8.

The arm costs 8 dollars not counting shipping, but the same arm with the knob costs 8 dollars shipped? Did I read that right? And are 12/0-14/0 handles going do be an option later on? Those handles look rugged.
if you will be buying a 3/0 or 5/0 handle in addition to the arm, there will be no additional charge for shipping of the arm.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Dynamo on October 17, 2013, 01:58:24 AM
Gosh, that's nice. Thanks for replying! How much additional should the knobs be?
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bryan Young on October 17, 2013, 02:25:09 AM
I don't know what the cost of the knob. It was provided to me for the reel that I was working on.  You may want to contact Accurate.  I'm not sure if they are still available.

This know is provided without bearings (which I like).  I have had to switch out more bearings on knobs than I'd care to share. Those balls have load is big and bearings are tiny.
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Dynamo on October 17, 2013, 03:30:47 PM
Alright, thanks!
Title: Re: Alan's new handle arms in SS
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on October 18, 2013, 01:11:47 PM
How much would a arm for the 113h with midsize nob cost?