Here's my double dogged 114HN and 112HN with the v.ii handle arms. Next week I'll have some arms for 113H/349 the larger Senators cut.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/PICT0027_zpsfa33abc0.jpg)
Me like the one on the 114 :o
Yes!
You really outdid yourself on those Lee! ;) I am very Impressed! I think those will even make Sal happy! :D
nice handle arms Lee.... like your design, very cool
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 16, 2013, 12:49:35 AM
Yes!
You really outdid yourself on those Lee! ;) I am very Impressed! I think those will even make Sal happy! :D
Not yet, but he's getting there ;), yes the long cut-outs are my request.
Lee, they look awesome. I tried to show what I believe would look even better, but when I copied the picture, it came back the same :-\. I spent a good half an hour on it ::).
As you already know, I'm not that good with the computer.
Could you make the back side of the cut-out almost straight....the part towards the handle knot.
Even the shape of the cut-outs for the sleeve would be good.
Also, could you add 1/16" on top and bottom of the long section and make it sharp where it meets?
If you can't.... that's fine, I'll take them as they are.
Maybe you can get an idea from this:
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/036_zpsf287e235.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/036_zpsf287e235.jpg.html)
Sal
Nice work Lee.
John
Sweet job, Lee! ...about time someone came out with a sexy handle arm 8)
When you get that final design down I'll take 2 of each.
Thanks,
Dom
I could use some of those arms for the 113H and 349, whenever you are ready to provide. I don't need the optional mounting hole, just the one farthest from the handle knob. I don't even need the cut outs.
Quote from: Makule on August 16, 2013, 02:31:53 AM
I could use some of those arms for the 113H and 349, whenever you are ready to provide. I don't need the optional mounting hole, just the one farthest from the handle knob. I don't even need the cut outs.
I have a long single hole handle w/o slot drawn up now.
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 16, 2013, 01:57:48 AM
Not yet, but he's getting there ;), yes the long cut-outs are my request.
Lee, they look awesome. I tried to show what I believe would look even better, but when I copied the picture, it came back the same :-\. I spent a good half an hour on it ::).
As you already know, I'm not that good with the computer.
Could you make the back side of the cut-out almost straight....the part towards the handle knot.
Even the shape of the cut-outs for the sleeve would be good.
Also, could you add 1/16" on top and bottom of the long section and make it sharp where it meets?
If you can't.... that's fine, I'll take them as they are.
Maybe you can get an idea from this:
Done. Do you have a fax # I can send the drawing to?
Come on Sal!
Really! ::)
That thing looks like a pickle with holes in it! :D
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 16, 2013, 04:16:21 AM
Come on Sal!
Really! ::)
That think looks like a pickle with holes in it! :D
;D ;D
Lee, some like blondes, some like brunette and so on....I like them all ;D
Make me a couple as I'm showing...if you can. As for the others, you'll need to ask them and see which they prefer.
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 16, 2013, 04:39:04 AM
Make me a couple as I'm showing...if you can. As for the others, you'll need to ask them and see which they prefer.
I can't get the drawings in a format I can post but I can print it off and fax it if you have a fax machine.
No fax machine Lee, everything I do is through Email today.
I figured out how to convert it to a jpeg file. Not to scale.
114H
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/SalsArm_zps9a4cbb54.jpg)
112H
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Sals112Hhandle_zps4708f8d6.jpg)
Something I'm playing with for my 112HN
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/112_zps38dbe7e5.jpg)
Super secret custom project for someone else
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Blank_zpsa49eba5c.jpg)
Lee, you must have read my mind, I was going to ask if you could make the cut out a little narrower ;D
I tried again with the computer, I don't want Daron to make fun of my artistic skills again ;D
Not quite the way I like it to be, your second one is close, but could be a little wider.
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/SalsArm_zpse8e331b8.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/SalsArm_zpse8e331b8.jpg.html)
I like the 112 HN, but again, I prefer a sharp angle at the narrow point.
Lee, it's getting late and I'm going to bet.
Later.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Salsviii_zps6e078ba0.jpg)
Wow Lee, that awesome.
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 16, 2013, 05:17:52 AM
Lee, you must have read my mind, I was going to ask if you could make the cut out a little narrower ;D
I tried again with the computer, I don't want Daron to make fun of my artistic skills again ;D
All in good Fun Sal! :D
I couldn't resist. ;)
I like Lee's 114H design in the picture, gives it a sweeping sexy look! It that one of Alan's 6/0 handles on there?
I see what Norcal Pescador was talking about when he called them Hot Dogs on that 113.
Has anyone heard from Rob lately? I don't see him posting stuff.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 16, 2013, 07:35:53 AM
It that one of Alan's 6/0 handles on there?
Yes, I prefer the smaller one for 500/112H reels but the large one works good on my 113H/349 and 114H reels.
Lee, that looks great!
I don't know your dimensions for the other handles, I was thinking:
4" for the Jigmaster - tip to tip, 5" for the 113H and 5 1/2" for the 114H.
They don't need to be exact, but if you get close within 1/4" +/- it would be nice.
For me, I would take all three in that design, just keep it to scale as you go down on size.
Lee, three holes on all would be nice, but I'll take whatever you come up with.
You up already Sal?
I just got home from work. Got me on 6 to 6 nights this week. Ugh! :(
I can't complain, I spend half my night talking to you guys on the clock. ;D
I guess with only 5 hours sleep, you are just as excited as me about Lee's new arms.
Lee is the Man! ;)
;D ;D
I'm up every mornings at 4:30 am, been doing the same for many years.
Well, when not work related, I get up at 3:30 am ;)
That will be my wake up time next week. On 6 to 6 days. Gotta love it!
I am seriously thinking of making me a cabinet for my reels. Nothing as extravagant as yours, but something to show off my reels. I work at an acrylic factory, so the glass will be the right price.
Just need time to do it. Me and my son are headed to the gulf in 31 days to do some serious fishing.
Time to put some Senator Muscle on those Sharks. I hope to catch me a Hammer or a Tiger. We will see.
I can't wait! ;D
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 16, 2013, 10:44:28 AM
Lee, three holes on all would be nice, but I'll take whatever you come up with.
The gear sleeve and handle nut retainer holes are the hard part but once I had them adding extra holes or taking them off is relatively easy, even a 5 hole. ;D
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/5hole_zpse7ed0d14.jpg)
Now you're showing off Lee ::) ;D, you must have some nice software.
That looks like a stretched limo ;D. Too rich for my blood, maybe Albert (Makule) would like it ;) ;D
Albert wants single hole arms.
That's why I said it.
It's a relatively easy CAD program and just about anything flat can be cut. This change took 5 minutes.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Goofy_zps5a87edba.jpg)
Great work! So when can I get one for a 114H?
The 500/112H and 114H drawings have been proven to be good and I'll be making a small run next week, I'm a little over extended on some large cuttings of Newell washers and Penn dogs right now and a bit short of funds but payment is coming.
Lee
Did you get my P M last night???
Mike
Nice work, Lee!
I definitely want one for my 113h!
Depending on the price i could use 3. only need 1 gear sleeve hole, longest one. i will even take a solid arm
if it would be cheaper in price. 113H/349H
You know what would be really Cool Lee!
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/sharktemplate_zps1c2af127.jpg)
Or maybe like this. (http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/sharktemplate_zps14f81713.jpg)
Here is your Chance Sal! Just an Idea. ;D
NICE!!!!
Looks like a finger shredder to me. ;D
Yea, to me too ::) :-\. That said, I need you to make one ;D. Don't make the fin and tail too sharp ;)
Lee, I could use one for a 116L 12/0 with sharp fins for "Show & Tell".
That thing needs to be a bottle opener. opening your beer with a reel would make life complete!
Ronald
Now your talkin' Ron! :P
Quote from: noyb72 on August 17, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
That thing needs to be a bottle opener. opening your beer with a reel would make life complete!
Ronald
Here you go Ron ;)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shark-Shape-Metal-Beer-Bottle-Opener-Keychain-Cap-Opener-Tool-/111073747951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19dc82e3ef
Only issue with that Sal is that it isn't on a reel!
Ron
Maybe attach it to the lanyard hole on the reel clamp ;)..
Some custom 113H/349 handle drawings, 3-3/4 center to center, radius on hole centers on the drawing. I'm going to cut some of the 2.5".
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/3drawings_zps0ac8b321.jpg)
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Quote from: Keta on August 19, 2013, 05:15:46 AM
Some custom 113H/349 handle drawings, 3-3/4 center to center, radius on hole centers on the drawing. I'm going to cut some of the 2.5".
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/3drawings_zps0ac8b321.jpg)
Those are really nice Lee! Simple and beautiful.
I like the 2.5 very similar to the Penn arm but longer
Lee,
That 2.5 looks a little like an ocean city handle.
I like the ones with the cut outs, and when you wanna sell some of those...I'm a buyer!
You're coming up with some cool stuff using that cad programs. Keep it up!
Thanks
Dom
Cut outs can be added, in fact I took them out on these drawings at Alberts request.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Myarm_zps1ee95196.jpg)
I like 'em without the cut outs! ;D
A 30 second "change" and a few minutes talking with the cutter is all it takes once the drawing is saved. The cutouts reduce the weight but SS is lighter than the factory brass, and stronger. I like holes like the 112H arm on top but they are harder to draw and the cutter charges by the number of holes and inches.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/DSCN1358_zps9f2613ec.jpg)
Counter balanced arm for 113H/349 reels
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/113HCB_zps0e7112cc.jpg)
I like the 112H arm. How are these priced? I would like to have one.
Quote from: floating doc on August 20, 2013, 03:13:46 AM
I like the 112H arm. How are these priced? I would like to have one.
PM me, I'm making a cut this week.
The old Pfleuger Templar reels had counter balanced handles and they seem much more "balanced" than the Senators without the counter balanced handles. The very old Senators also had counter balanced handles, and they also felt better.
Quote from: Keta on August 19, 2013, 08:00:33 PM
Counter balanced arm for 113H/349 reels
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/113HCB_zps0e7112cc.jpg)
I like this new 113H/349 handle for my 349 reels. with a 1.85" knob on each end.
I couldn't help myself so I did some drawings of a handle arm for my 113h. I wanted a counter weight one but not fully symmetrical. The thought was to attach counter weights in some form to the shorter arm. I really like Penn's original design so I wanted something in the spirit of that.
(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o677/Tottofagrin/113Hhandlearm_zpsdefb25f6.jpg)
I like the design so far, but if you see room for improvement somewhere please speak up! If you like it feel free to PM me for the cad drawing.
I haven't decided myself on which design I will go for. Some of what Lee has ben showing are very nice!
/Karl
Nice work, I'm thinking the counter weight hole should have 2 flats like the gear sleeve hole to keep the counter weight from spinning.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/CBarm_zps2b53a7c2.jpg)
Quote from: Keta on August 21, 2013, 02:03:13 PM
Nice work, I'm thinking the counter weight hole should have 2 flats like the gear sleeve hole to keep the counter weight from spinning.
Good point! How do you think one should attach the counter weight?
With a button head allen screw and thread lock.
Quote from: Keta on August 21, 2013, 02:33:18 PM
With a button head allen screw and thread lock.
And the actual weight? Just plain steel disks (washers)?
Quote from: Mandelstam on August 21, 2013, 02:00:24 PM(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o677/Tottofagrin/113Hhandlearm_zpsdefb25f6.jpg)
Karl,
Wow. Do you mind sending me the CAD drawing? I'm probably not going to make it, but is very inspiring, and may consider a smaller variation for other reels, like Daiwas and Shimanos.
Bryan
Bryan, I'll probably be cutting them for Karl and if it's ok with him I'll cut some for you.
Karl, make them out of SS shaft with the end turned and milled to fit in the hole in the arm.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/CW_zps4728f81d.jpg)
Can you make me a 2.5 arm for my Penn 16 Intl. ?
Quote from: turboal on August 21, 2013, 03:35:53 PM
Can you make me a 2.5 arm for my Penn 16 Intl. ?
If you can provide me with accurate dimensions of the hole one can be cut, I don't have a 16 to measure from.
the 16S has a type M bridge/sleeve. it's all by it's self
Is that the same size as a 113H?
Quote from: Bryan Young on August 21, 2013, 03:00:18 PM
Karl,
Wow. Do you mind sending me the CAD drawing? I'm probably not going to make it, but is very inspiring, and may consider a smaller variation for other reels, like Daiwas and Shimanos.
Bryan
Quote from: Keta on August 21, 2013, 03:02:38 PM
Bryan, I'll probably be cutting them for Karl and if it's ok with him I'll cut some for you.
Karl, make them out of SS shaft with the end turned and milled to fit in the hole in the arm.
Bryan, glad you liked them! I can definitely send the drawing to you as it is right now. If you don't have a cad program I can do some tweaking per your requirements before I send it as well. Just let me know if I can help out, I fiddle around with AutoCad all day at work anyhow.
Lee, yea that would be the perfect way. Thanks for the tip. Now to just calculate the mass required to get it in balance... Hmm.. Guess it's easier to just hang a small bag from the end and start fill it upp with ball lead when the handle is attached and get it to balance out. Then it's just to calculate the height of the shaft from there.
I guess for myself I'm going to get the end of the counter weight end of the handle to fit a metric shaft as I live in a more civilized part of the world when it comes to units, but let me know if I should do a version for prepared for another shaft diam.
By the way, I plan to fit a kolekar handle grip to this, does anyone know the diam of the attaching shaft?
/karl
Quote from: Mandelstam on August 21, 2013, 04:32:55 PM
By the way, I plan to fit a kolekar handle grip to this, does anyone know the diam of the attaching shaft?
/karl
They are close to .0139 cubits ;D but I'll get an accurate measurement today. I have been cutting them undersize, drilling them out and then filing them for a snug fit but if I make a lot of handles I'll buy a ream.
Quote from: Keta on August 21, 2013, 04:46:28 PM
They are close to .0139 cubits ;D but I'll get an accurate measurement today.
:) Are you talking about the Sumerian or the Biblical cubit? Or maybe the Royal Egyptian?
Quote from: Keta on August 21, 2013, 04:46:28 PM
I have been cutting them undersize, drilling them out and then filing them for a snug fit but if I make a lot of handles I'll buy a ream.
Are you talking about the plastic handle? What I meant was the steel shaft between the arm and the grip.. Just sort of got confused here.. :) I want the end of the handle arm to have the same diameter as the attaching grip shaft.
thanks for bearing with me...
/Karl
I meant arm and the hole where the handle shaft goes into it opposite of the counter weight hole, sorry.
Quote from: Keta on August 21, 2013, 03:02:38 PMBryan, I'll probably be cutting them for Karl and if it's ok with him I'll cut some for you.
Hi Lee,
I would need to redesign it a bit to scale smaller daiwa and shimano reels in addition to the gear sleeve opening. Then based on the handles, need to determine what to do about the counter weight. The arm length is a bit long for the little reels I'm thinking of.
Bryan
The counterweights on the arms do not need to exactly balance the crank side. It's mainly to remove excess "wobble".
Quote from: Makule on August 21, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
The counterweights on the arms do not need to exactly balance the crank side. It's mainly to remove excess "wobble".
Ok, got it!
:)
Quote from: Makule on August 21, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
The counterweights on the arms do not need to exactly balance the crank side. It's mainly to remove excess "wobble".
Then I would loose my knuckle buster spin move. ;D
Quote from: Mandelstam on August 21, 2013, 04:32:55 PM
By the way, I plan to fit a kolekar handle grip to this, does anyone know the diam of the attaching shaft?
/karl
Where it goes into the arm is .312" or 7.9348 mm.
Quote from: Keta on August 21, 2013, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Mandelstam on August 21, 2013, 04:32:55 PM
By the way, I plan to fit a kolekar handle grip to this, does anyone know the diam of the attaching shaft?
/karl
Where it goes into the arm is .312" or 7.9348 mm.
Excellent!
/K
Yesterday I also sketched on a complimentary star that would go with the new handle. Lee told me that finding the right tap is problematic, but I thought I would show it anyway. I didn't have the measurements of the original star so it came out a bit larger than original.
(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o677/Tottofagrin/113Hhandlearmandstar_zps4c88d24b.jpg)
Designing handle arms is fuun!! ;D
/Karl
Hi Lee. i want to use this handle on that arm. that's why i want it longer.
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 16, 2013, 10:44:28 AM
Lee, that looks great!
I don't know your dimensions for the other handles, I was thinking:
4" for the Jigmaster - tip to tip, 5" for the 113H and 5 1/2" for the 114H.
They don't need to be exact, but if you get close within 1/4" +/- it would be nice.
For me, I would take all three in that design, just keep it to scale as you go down on size.
Lee, three holes on all would be nice, but I'll take whatever you come up with.
How long for the 9/0-16/0 Senators?
I wouldn't go past 6" on those. I'm thinking 2 holes would be plenty for the 6/0 and up.
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 26, 2013, 02:49:31 PM
I wouldn't go past 6" on those. I'm thinking 2 holes would be plenty for the 6/0 and up.
Done, I have 5" and 6" with 2 holes.
Lee, here's a pic of the 16S spline handle nut. shift button in the center
Lee,
Can you put up a final picture or drawing of the 5"+6" arms?
Thanks
Dom
Very good ;). Send me one of each, along with the other good stuff.
Lee, what happened to this arm you were going to make ? is it 113H or a 114H ?
Drawings for 112H, 113H, 114H and the larger Senators are at the cutter now. I cut 112H and 114H last time but they were a test cut and are now on my personal 99 width Jigmaster, 114HN and 112HN reels.
looking forward to a few 113H/349 +114H arms
Keta, if your software can export a PDF, that's an easy way to get true scale drawings in a format anyone can see.
Your drawings look good, and it's amazing what you can do with these waterjet machines, isn't it
Quote from: Three se7ens on August 27, 2013, 02:15:24 AM
Keta, if your software can export a PDF, that's an easy way to get true scale drawings in a format anyone can see.
Your drawings look good, and it's amazing what you can do with these waterjet machines, isn't it
Only .dxf and .jpeg
Sure is.
I can do the conversion for you if anyone wants true scale PDFs. Just email me a dxf.
K
Lee, how are you coming along with you handle arms ? you been quiet lately.
Lee,
Ive been using an application called "Snag It" for screen captures and converting files to pdf, jpeg (and visa versa) for over a decade. Its easy to use and cheap, I think they offer a 30 day trial. When I first started-out on this forum I would print entire tutorials for all my reels and put them in binders.
Leo
Lee let me know what u have for the jigmaster.
Lee,
Are you able to take an existing handle arm and enlarge the gear sleeve hole. For example, take a custom 6/0 handle arm and enlarge the hole to fit a 10/0?
George
Uh Oh! I think George is onto something. Then These Handles would fit a 114,115 and 116! :o