Hello guys. I want a lot of opinions on this one. To my horrow, Daiwa has discontinued the Sealine 900h, 600h etc just as they became perfect (carbon greased drags were added). What reels should I purchase instead? I need 600yd of 60lb mono minimum (I won't fish higher than 20lb drag standup) on a reel that needs no adjustment to its internals. Single speed star drag is fine with me. Must be aluminium frame (eases my mind). Budget is $350. I don't like braid but I am willing to try if its the only way but there has to be a min of 100yd 80lb mono topshot. I am concerned about spool corrosion with braid sitting there holding salt. Only recognised manufacturers with strong support for spares long term. I don't mind used (I love my '92 Volvo 940 car) and I trust the members of this site to support me. My target for this reel is offshore Caribbean fish (wahoo, marlin etc.) I want peace of mind when that Widerange lure gets hit and the local captains looked at me funny when I suggested using my fairly new 114h for offshore big guys. As far as I know, no granders being caught (max is 600lb, I think). Btw, I don't plan to keep billfish. The reel will be matched up with the current Sealine 900h Lots of responses please guys.
Kent from Jamaica.
I don't know how a 6/0 isn't going to be enough for the kind of fishing you want to do. If you are concerned, their are things you can learn to do on here that will make it as strong as any other reel.
Ron
Hi Ron. Some of the local captains and anglers have reported to me that with straight mono, clients or friends sometimes get spooled running 6/0's without ever seeing what hit.
I'll let someone like Sal or one of the shark guys respond. Believe me, the 6/0 is plenty of reel.
Ron
Nothing like that but a penn 9/0 and it has no aluminum frame, but it's got stronger internals than the daiwa in my opinion. 6/0s ain't much line, 9/0 ain't much more without braid. I have an unknown easy 600+ of 130lb braid I'm about to put on my 9/0, then top it with 80lb mono. Trust me braid backing is your friend. Get some used daiwa 900hs and upgrade drags
the daiwa 600h and 900h are great reels. changing the drage stack from a "1+3" to a "1+5" makes a huge difference. the aluminum frame really gives penn a run for their money!
The Penn 114HL also has aluminum frames:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn114HLW.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn114HLW.aspx)
I believe this one is a much better reel, adding $150 of upgrades will also make it much better than a 9/0.
Why an alternative????,,,,,, Both are still available Brand New... Look after them and They'll last a life time
Thanks for the info so far guys. I need an alternative because the Daiwa reels are discontinued and I am worried about the availability of parts. I won't be gathering the larger reels for my inventory until December-January. I guess a 114H tank should do it with braid backing or the 600h. Will always be sure of getting Penn parts though. If I have 350 budgeted for the reel, can I get a powerful 114h fishing 20+ lb drag? I am thinking 500yd 80lb braid then top off with 80lb mono (with the braid acting as my large fish reserve). Apart from the upgraded metal frame and side plates, what else for the souped up 114h? Would these work with the Chinese Senators? Also, since we fish mostly straight mono, how should I connect the braid to the mono?
I am feeling a little sheepish now. I see that the Penn Internationals 50T can be had used in good condition for $329. I guess I will be looking at those instead of buying a souped up 114H for $300+. I do have a 113h and a 114h that I would like to upgrade though to tolerate 20+lb drag since I don't want any graphite frame reels on the boat but I have sentimental attachment to my existing Penns (first reels I owned). Apart from the frames and sideplate, what else should be changed out? Narrowing them would also look cooler, I guess, and easier for guests/kids to retrieve line.
All you have to do is buy you one or two and take care of them I have had mine since the late 80's and you can hardly tell them from a new one.
They may not be in production, but parts are readily availalble and they are still sold by Daiwa directly. it would be better to pick up an extra one or two reels and parts instead of looking for a new reel that will become discontinued in the future. JMHO.
Quote from: JA_Angler on September 19, 2013, 02:29:30 AM
Hello guys. I want a lot of opinions on this one. To my horrow, Daiwa has discontinued the Sealine 900h, 600h etc just as they became perfect (carbon greased drags were added). What reels should I purchase instead? I need 600yd of 60lb mono minimum (I won't fish higher than 20lb drag standup) on a reel that needs no adjustment to its internals. Single speed star drag is fine with me. Must be aluminium frame (eases my mind). Budget is $350. I don't like braid but I am willing to try if its the only way but there has to be a min of 100yd 80lb mono topshot. I am concerned about spool corrosion with braid sitting there holding salt. Only recognised manufacturers with strong support for spares long term. I don't mind used (I love my '92 Volvo 940 car) and I trust the members of this site to support me. My target for this reel is offshore Caribbean fish (wahoo, marlin etc.) I want peace of mind when that Widerange lure gets hit and the local captains looked at me funny when I suggested using my fairly new 114h for offshore big guys. As far as I know, no granders being caught (max is 600lb, I think). Btw, I don't plan to keep billfish. The reel will be matched up with the current Sealine 900h Lots of responses please guys.
Kent from Jamaica.
Quote from: JA_Angler on September 23, 2013, 01:00:09 PM
Thanks for the info so far guys. I need an alternative because the Daiwa reels are discontinued and I am worried about the availability of parts. I won't be gathering the larger reels for my inventory until December-January. I guess a 114H tank should do it with braid backing or the 600h. Will always be sure of getting Penn parts though. If I have 350 budgeted for the reel, can I get a powerful 114h fishing 20+ lb drag? I am thinking 500yd 80lb braid then top off with 80lb mono (with the braid acting as my large fish reserve). Apart from the upgraded metal frame and side plates, what else for the souped up 114h? Would these work with the Chinese Senators? Also, since we fish mostly straight mono, how should I connect the braid to the mono?
Check this out:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7710.msg66164#msg66164
This reel left this morning for Florida, I asked a friend to give it a workout and report back.
Thanks guys. Just the info I was looking for.
Yep,
I knew he'd get here eventually.
Ron
You can always step up to a 12/0 or 14/0 senator. These reels are 60 years old and going strong! ;) It can handle some big fish and the spool is large enough to run some heavy mono with no braid. As far as your salty braid corroding the reel. I know this is a pain, but I do it to give me piece of mind. I reel all my line onto another reel after every fishing trip and check the spool, Polish it up with some chrome polish and wind the line back on. Or you can just leave it on the reel you wound it on to.
The spool won't corrode unless you dunk it, a wax coat is always a good idea though
I beg to differ Grayson. A Chrome spool will corrode just from the saltwater on the line, if you just leave them sit all salty.
I can't believe how much those Mustad Circles start corroding after just a couple hours, it starts eating the chrome right off.
That's why you gotta wash it. All mine get that treatment and are in good condition. I'm not a huge mustad circle fan, I don't get all the 20/0 hype. I have some serious j hooks in my garage, along with EC circles and a few mustads
Yes, I like the Eagle Claws too. I guess me taking the line off is overkill. They looked fine. Just gives me piece of mind. I always give mine a good shower after being in the salt.
I'm afraid I have to agree about braid holding some saltwater. I received two vintage reels with their boxes, a pristine 6/0 and an almost perfect 9/0. The 6/0 was spooled with really old Ande and the 9/0 with dacron. The 6/0 was fished once then thrown into storage, while the 9/0 was taken better care of, regardless the 6/0's spool was without blemish, while the 9/0 was kinda corroded and also the 9/0's dacron was still wet from 50 year old saltwater!
That's Dacron, spectra is a different animal. Dacron needs to be dried after every trip, and replaced about every 2-3 years. It will rot
I agree with the overhype of the 20/0 Mustad. Everybody keeps saying how cheap they are yet the best price i could find for them was $24 shipped for a 10 pack, compared to the all-catch circles at $12.50 shipped. Sure the Mustads perform okay, but for the price compared to the All-catch alternative, they just are not worth it. I've had good luck with Owner and VMC as well.
Ah, you have a point, to be sure. But Power Pro holds in saltwater for me too after long soaks. But I guess Power Pro is Power Pro, lol.
It's spelled pooper pro not power pro. It shouldn't hold saltwater though, it might be fake. I wetpack braid cause it dries and becomes rock solid
I don't think its fake, but it does get real damp after long soaks like I said. If its fake than i'll keep buying it anyways cause at least its better than mono..........I don't mind my spinner spools rusting cause I go through reels fast, haha.
It should dry right up. Coat the spools in car wax or shoe wax
Quote from: Dynamo on September 30, 2013, 03:05:06 AM
I agree with the overhype of the 20/0 Mustad. Everybody keeps saying how cheap they are yet the best price i could find for them was $24 shipped for a 10 pack, compared to the all-catch circles at $12.50 shipped. Sure the Mustads perform okay, but for the price compared to the All-catch alternative, they just are not worth it. I've had good luck with Owner and VMC as well.
$39.99 for 20 shipped.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mustad-39960D-20-0-Duratin-Circle-Hooks-20-Hooks-NEW-/251339039010?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a84f96122
Not bad, but I can get 20 lindgren pitmans for less than 30 shipped. The Mustads are great hooks and work but for the price, LPs are unbeatable, in my humbe opinion......And most of my spinners are cheap beaters, anyways. It dried eventually.......