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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: pcde123 on September 25, 2013, 05:06:35 AM

Title: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: pcde123 on September 25, 2013, 05:06:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyvwRWxO__Q, kinda old, but it caught my eye and i started to wonder...how?? like how would u build the spool??? 
imagine fillling that thing with high quality braid, jerry  brown braid.....22,000yards of 135 lb, 4500$ on line......kinda fun to think about.....but in the end seems excessive
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 25, 2013, 04:50:07 PM
I have seen this before as well. I'm pretty sure He just put two 16/0 spools together. These spools are pretty much unobtainable now. I think if we could find some one to machine the spool and posts. We could be set. Just use 14/0 side plates and gears. I don't think you could fish it unless you were a body builder. I fish with a 12/0 now and have a 14 and 16/0. They are pretty heavy as it is.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Makule on September 25, 2013, 06:38:30 PM
In my younger days, I used to extend the spools of Senators (4/0 to 6/0 width, and 6/0 to 9/0 width).  Mostly, I did Templars 1419 3/4 to 1420 1/2 or the reverse.

The procedure was to cut the spool in half, and then fit a sleeve on the center portion to extend it to whatever width was desired.  Was very tedious and painstaking work because the difference between the hole and the shaft had to be -.0005" (hole 1/2 thousandth smaller), and cutting a hole several inches to that tolerance, and that was only about 1/2" in diameter was not easy.  The sleeve would be pressed onto the shaft, then pinned.  If the work was not up to par, the spool would wobble or push apart.

Working with the spool from a 16/0 or 14/0 would be easier since the hole/shaft sizes would be larger and easier to hold tolerance over a greater width.  Also, since the overall weight would not be as much of a concern as with the smaller reels, the wall of the sleeve that was placed over the shaft could be thicker (less likely to distort when pressed).

I'd be concerned about having such a great width on the spool, and what effects it might have on the bearings.  Quite honestly, my preference would be to have a solid frame machined and, if that's the case, would be better to cut the spool too (make it larger in diameter and not so wide) and create a whole new profile.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on September 25, 2013, 10:54:43 PM
Tere would be absolutely no point in having that reel honestly, that guy if it's he's the one I'm thinking of was a bit different, he used the em rods for pin rigging and never caught anything. All you need is a 18/0 everol
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Alto Mare on September 25, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: Bunnlevel Sharker on September 25, 2013, 10:54:43 PM
All you need is a 18/0 everol
and steel toe shoes ;).
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Keta on September 25, 2013, 11:21:29 PM
Quote from: Bunnlevel Sharker on September 25, 2013, 10:54:43 PM
Tere would be absolutely no point in having that reel honestly.......

You could say the same about a large % of the reels and rifles I have but I "wanted them"  ;D  Who in their right mind has two 375H&H rifles, a 375x8mm Rem and a 416.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Ron Jones on September 26, 2013, 04:41:03 AM
What on Earth is wrong with having 2 375H&Hs? If you had one set up for bush and one set up for the big plains game/Elk you'd be set.

Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 26, 2013, 05:05:33 AM
Quote from: Keta on September 25, 2013, 11:21:29 PM
Quote from: Bunnlevel Sharker on September 25, 2013, 10:54:43 PM
Tere would be absolutely no point in having that reel honestly.......

You could say the same about a large % of the reels and rifles I have but I "wanted them"  ;D  Who in their right mind has two 375H&H rifles, a 375x8mm Rem and a 416.
Exactly Lee! You wanted them. We all do some crazy things because we want it. Its our Nature.
Work Hard! Play Hard! I just bought a new penn 14/0 because I wanted it. I already have two! ;)
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Keta on September 26, 2013, 05:14:56 AM
One 375 is a NIB Winchester Safari Grade, the other is my stainless 20" barreled SE Alaska Bear rifle.  The 375-8mm Rem is a match for my bear rifle.  I elk hunt with a Mauser 338-06 or a Ruger 300 Win Mag.

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/375.jpg)
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 26, 2013, 06:47:25 AM
Very Nice Lee!
I have two safes of some serious Guns! Don't get me started! ;)
We all need some Man hobbies to keep us sane.. Fishing and Guns! It doesn't get any more American than That! What's going on with those 114H SS handle arms Buddy?
You got my Shark handle ready yet? :D
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Keta on September 26, 2013, 01:26:25 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 26, 2013, 06:47:25 AM
What's going on with those 114H SS handle arms Buddy?

They are cut and I'm slowly hand fitting the gear sleeve holes between other things.  Fall is not a slack time for me.  Right now I'm working on 12-60 yokes for Allan's BP SS gears and WPS needed help for a large pack order.... on top of putting the irrigation system away for the winter and trying to get to the coast for some fishing.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: alantani on September 26, 2013, 04:07:03 PM
guns wouldl be too much of a distraction.  i sneak onto calguns every day.  not good for my checkbook.  the smartest thing i ever did was to buy a small safe that fits perfectly in the closet. i would have to demolish the house to move the safe now.  it's full.  there is no more room, so i can't buy anything more.  but i am looking for another early 1950's browning hi power.........   ;D

now, back to the subject of building a penn 32/0!
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: alantani on September 26, 2013, 04:10:07 PM
having issues with handle arms.  gotta get those holes tapped, and it is not as easy as it looks.  the stainless steel is pretty hard. 
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Keta on September 26, 2013, 05:39:29 PM
Use cheap canola oil for cutting oil and a good tap handle and they go well.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Makule on September 26, 2013, 05:59:06 PM
QuoteWho in their right mind has two 375H&H rifles, a 375x8mm Rem and a 416.

I fail to see the insanity in that.  You want em, you got them.  End of story.  What's crazy about that?  It's far and away from an obsession, and not all obsessions are bad or clinical anyway.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 26, 2013, 07:15:40 PM
Amen to That! Albert! ;D
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: pcde123 on September 27, 2013, 02:51:28 AM
i wonder if this guy is planing to kayak his bait out a mile......why not just buy a boat and fish off of it 10 miles offshore..........
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on September 27, 2013, 03:23:40 AM
Why not just get a towtruck and fill it with 1/4 coated cable.....even better
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Makule on September 27, 2013, 06:02:46 PM
Thought about doing that myself, once.  Realized it would be hard to get the line out.  Realized it would be hard to get the tow truck to where I wanted to go fishing.  Realized there wasn't enough cable in the winch.  Realized there isn't a brake on the winch so the hook might bend/break.  Realized the demand for towing is great so getting a tow truck would eventually become a business and take even more time away from what it would initially be for.  Realized .......

On the other hand, rigging up a belt driven "winch" to my truck that uses electro-magnetic braking and electric motor, with a pole mounted to my pipe rack and a series of pulleys/sheaves to guide the line from the truck to the fishing spot, might be worth a look.  Getting the line out would still be a problem, however.  Guess I could always use a launcher (which I already have).

Wonder if that would take the sport out of the thing?  Who cares?  I'm a meat fisherman, not a sportsman.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Robert Janssen on September 27, 2013, 07:05:35 PM
Perhaps a Lindgren-Pitman Reel would suit you.

Boasts such handy features as ample line capacity of 30 nautical miles of 700# mono, as well as
   
Direct Drive High Efficiency Hydraulic Motor with Integrated Cross Port Relief
   Stainless Steel Free Spool Ball Valve
   Aluminum Construction
   Grease Free Level Winder with Guard
   Stainless Steel Shaft
   Drive Coupling Grease System
   High-Tech Solid Cast Aluminum End Plates
   Epoxy Paint
   Heavy-Duty Formed Tube Stand

(http://www.lindgren-pitman.com/images/Product/medium/48.gif)
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: pcde123 on September 29, 2013, 03:03:12 AM
lol, when ever this guy goes fishing i wanna kayak out and fish right on top of his bait,LOL bet ill pisshim off
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: saltydog on September 29, 2013, 03:10:33 PM
Thats perfect a long line reel. :P I think i read somewhere that he used a 12/0 as the base reel the fabricated the rest of the parts. Doesn't look like it is manageable at all and everyone would be served by a smaller reel.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Makule on November 13, 2013, 04:34:08 AM
Quote from: saltydog on September 29, 2013, 03:10:33 PM
Thats perfect a long line reel. :P I think i read somewhere that he used a 12/0 as the base reel the fabricated the rest of the parts. Doesn't look like it is manageable at all and everyone would be served by a smaller reel.

It was either a 14/0 or 16/0.

I have one functional 14/0.  Got it because the 12/0 got stripped once.  I abhor the idea that any fish can take out more line than I have in the reel.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on November 13, 2013, 07:27:16 PM
There's an older fella in SENC with more money than god that has a winch on his truck filled with 250lb braid I think.....he just doesn't care what other people think
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Makule on November 13, 2013, 08:25:25 PM
What is SENC?  Please provide a link.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 13, 2013, 10:43:54 PM
I think he Means Southeast North Carolina Albert.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Newell Nut on November 13, 2013, 10:44:24 PM
My guess is Southeast North Carolina.
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on November 15, 2013, 02:07:31 AM
Yeah sorry Makule should have clarified, it's my stomping grounds
Title: Re: any idea's on how to build a megladon penn senator 32/0?
Post by: ez2cdave on December 27, 2013, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Robert Janssen on September 27, 2013, 07:05:35 PM
Perhaps a Lindgren-Pitman Reel would suit you.

Boasts such handy features as ample line capacity of 30 nautical miles of 700# mono, as well as
   
Direct Drive High Efficiency Hydraulic Motor with Integrated Cross Port Relief
   Stainless Steel Free Spool Ball Valve
   Aluminum Construction
   Grease Free Level Winder with Guard
   Stainless Steel Shaft
   Drive Coupling Grease System
   High-Tech Solid Cast Aluminum End Plates
   Epoxy Paint
   Heavy-Duty Formed Tube Stand

(http://www.lindgren-pitman.com/images/Product/medium/48.gif)

Can you MAG that for CASTING ?

LOL ! ! !