the spool on my 9/0 new to me reel is rubbing the right side-plate.
I think it is the spool spread problem.
however it seems it could be a bearing problem too
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thanks kelly
I would pull the bearings, pull their shields, clean em thoroughly w/carb cleaner/compressed air, and then check em by spinning em. If they don't spin freely w/absolutely no roughness replace them w/ new. Check the spool, by placing bearings in either side of the shaft, and spilling it. make sure it, or the shaft is not warped.. there should be no visable wobble when spinning in either the spool edge or shaft. If spool is ok, bearings are good to go, reassemble and test. If it's still rubbing, get some thin copper shims that fit the right side spool shaft and add (up to 3?) shims as needed to center the spool. This should solve your problem.
John
I'm thinking shimming is the way to go
the spool is straight and spins great
it is touching the side plate and there is a gap between the shaft and bushing
in the first picture is looking through the drag hole and there is a 1/32 space
If in it's past if the spool spread that much to leave a 1/32 difference, I would think it would have blown something up
Other thought is it is not all of the original parts
Does anyone have a width of a spool and length of the right side bushing?
Yea, I'd try shimming it then. If it were me, I'd consider swapping the bushings out for full greased and open spool bearings too. Scott at Penn parts can get you the bearings, and shims.
Welcome Kelly!
The end of that spool doesn't look right to me. Do you have bearings or bushings in your side Plates?
Some more pictures of your side plates and a better pic of that spool will help me diagnose your problem.
What is the yellow thing around the spool?
I don't want to be the bad news bearer, but it looks like someone may have modified that one piece spool to fit your bushing side plates. These spools don't spread easily, especially on a 9/0. I don't think that reel has the power to spread a one piece spool.
It appears the spool shaft has been modified. Did the reel come with a handle when you received it? I wonder if it was mounted on a Fish-Winch.
They are bushings
the yellow stuff I is the ECCENTRIC JACK
I pulled gear train and drags out to see what was going on
the right side plate on the inside doesn't show wear but it does rub
the left side is good and you can adjust it to the point the spool rubs
the spool looks fine it is 3 7/16" cheek to cheek on the outside
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After looking at the pics Kelley. I think your reel is fine. That first pic of the spool didn't show the end. It looked like it was cut off. I see now, it was just not showing it. You just need to shim it. The non handle side bearing has an adjustment you can back off by turning it. You will still need some small shims to keep it from rubbing on the other side. You can get them from mysticparts.com, but you could easily find a substitution for a no cost fix.
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
That first picture had me fooled. I would try one of these:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/26-114.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/26-114.aspx)
$5 is a small investment.
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Yea, Fooled me too Sal. Here is another example of a Bushing reel with a one piece spool. I have yet to come across one.(Mainly because I steer clear of Bushing reels from now on) You learn something New every day! ;)
That spool has to be from the first run, I'm guessing late 50's. It isn't a 3 piece spool, but I'm betting the spool shaft is 21mm, not 30mm as most one piece spools.
Ahh! Good to know Buddy! Good to know.
So, There could be a bushed 12/0 with a one piece spool out there that was original equipment. :P
Would the shaft also be 21mm?
It would have to be 21mm, the 30mm shaft wouldn't fit on a plate with the bushing.
You are the Man Sal!
You Continue to teach me all the Tricks! ;)
oh its old
but it came with another 9/0 with bearings and a drag upgrade with an aluminum spool
i couldn't pass up the deal
I upgraded to a stainless gear sleeve. its ready for soaking bait
does this bushing look right
it came with a handle
If you're asking if the bushing is good, can't really go with your picture, on most reels the tolerance is so tight, all it takes is a hair to screw things up.
One thing I can tell you is that from the looks of it, I would get a new one.
As I said earlier, $5 is a small price to pay.
But if you wanted to use the one you're showing, see how it goes when you install it.
picked up a new bushing but they look the same length
hope some how this can make up that much gap
I serviced one that had a swelled bushing, it was binding heavily, switched it out and it was beautiful. BTW, it had a rare one piece spool as well with two bushings and no mods
this is a one piece spool with bushings and it spins great
So I put the new bushing in and the spool is still hitting the side plate
I put the pinion gear back in to see what issues might be there
there is some wear on the spool grove on the pinion gear as if it has came out of sync
the spool is my only solution
if it was 3 1/4" and not 3 7/16" then the spool shaft would bottom out at the bushing and stop the spool from rubbing the side plate
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Bevel the top edge of your jack and see if that helps any, the spool might be rubbing on it.
Tolerance is tight, all you need is a little off, keep testing as you go.
In the third picture, I see a gap between the bushing and the spool shaft. Have you tried some shims?
I'm just guessing here.
shimming is an option
it would need 1/8 to clear the side plate
I measured my (bronze) 115L spool as you asked.
Rim to rim: 3.34" or 85 mm on my cheap Harbor Freight digital calipers.
thanks I think mine is to 87 +
Looks like I have a spread problem
Sounds like you've figured it out. I'm glad I could help.
could you post a shot of your jack? but not if you've cleaned it already.
what ya trying to say I don't clean my junk
patina is a state of beauty
like my truck so what if there is a little metal holding the rust together
I haven't cleaned
here goes it looks like mine is 3.453 if i read this right
;D ;D, I also like patina as much as you do, especially on brass sculptures and copper roofs ;).
The reason I was asking, I was hoping to see some shiny spots at the tip of the jack, that would have confirmed what I was thinking.
On your second picture there is a nice grove on that spool, this was my first indication that the spool could be rubbing on the jack, but it doesn't appear to be so, I couldn't detect any shiny spots from your picture of the jack.
your spool IS 1/8" wider than most, I measured (3) spools and they're all the same 85.3.
With that said, I've never seen a brass solid spool spread, but have seen it on a three-piece spool and that spool was wobbly when spinning :-\.
I'm guessing the first run of the solid spools were a little wider, but don't have any to check.
Also, the older plates did swell from moisture, another good indication that the spool could be rubbing on the jack :-\.
Good luck with your investigation.
Sal