Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: BMITCH on November 30, 2013, 04:50:58 PM

Title: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on November 30, 2013, 04:50:58 PM
1.  112H reel
1.  BP 5:1 gears
1.  Bryan's 5+1 drag stack
1.  Lee(Keta) HD arm
1.  TN3K kit (Greg, Chowderpuff)
1.  SS yoke (dawn)
14. Home made SS Torx screws( idea from VW)

Equals one BAD A@@ jigging reel


(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zpsbc42ef8b.jpg)


(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps5a199fb9.jpg)


(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps69c0a35e.jpg)
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on November 30, 2013, 04:53:29 PM
Oh yeah, and last but not least... Double alternating SS dogs. Thanks to a friend across the big pond ;D ;D
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Bryan Young on November 30, 2013, 05:41:17 PM
Wow!!! 

That's a purdy reel you created there. How did you make those torq screws?   
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Alto Mare on November 30, 2013, 05:45:50 PM
Gorgeous reel Bob ;), I also want to know how you guys made those torx screws and where did you get them from.
Sal
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on November 30, 2013, 06:06:24 PM
Bryan and Sal, I'm not in my shop right now to find out where I ordered the 5-50 SS flat head Torx. The edge was taken off with a bench grinder on the side of the wheel. Then buffed with a dremmel and compound. If you look close enough you will see the screws are not all uniform. Best I could do with stone age tools. If that four letter word "work" wouldn't get in the way I think I would have done a better job on them.
Bob
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 30, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
Looks good to Me Bob!
Nice Job Buddy! ;)
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: erikpowell on November 30, 2013, 08:01:39 PM
Now that is schweeeet!
I too especially like the custom torx screws... cool look.

Nice Keta cranker too, looks burly  ;)
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: broschro on November 30, 2013, 09:17:38 PM
looks sweet :o now go get a big ole reef donkey
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Irish Jigger on November 30, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Beautiful reel you have created there Bob. Nice work on the Torx screws. Would be a pity to get fish scales on that one ;)
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on November 30, 2013, 10:14:15 PM
Thanks guys. Tom I'd put scratches on it if it means FISH!!
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: bluefish69 on November 30, 2013, 11:51:19 PM
The work you did on that reel is beautifull & the screws really make that reel PoP.

I thought the Penn screws were 5/40

Mike
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: DaBigOno on December 01, 2013, 01:02:20 AM
Awesome job Bob.

Definitely a Alto Jr. Reel
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on December 01, 2013, 01:07:40 AM
Mike, your right . I ment 5-40's
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Keta on December 01, 2013, 02:43:01 AM
Quote from: BMITCH on November 30, 2013, 06:06:24 PM
Bryan and Sal, I'm not in my shop right now to find out where I ordered the 5-50 SS flat head Torx. The edge was taken off with a bench grinder on the side of the wheel. Then buffed with a dremmel and compound. If you look close enough you will see the screws are not all uniform. Best I could do with stone age tools. If that four letter word "work" wouldn't get in the way I think I would have done a better job on them.
Bob

Try chucking the screw in a drill and then grinding them running the drill counter to the grinder stone.
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: AndrewC on December 01, 2013, 03:09:23 AM
Nice job......I've got an old 113h I'm about to do the same think to
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: floating doc on December 01, 2013, 03:36:04 AM
Very nice; I've been dragging along with the same build for a while now. How did you set up your second dog spring? Any photos of that side plate after the modification?
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on December 01, 2013, 12:44:39 PM


Try chucking the screw in a drill and then grinding them running the drill counter to the grinder stone.
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Lee, that's a great idea ;D next couple Im gonna try that! Thanks

Floating dock. Here's where the idea came from ;)

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=6405.0
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: alantani on December 01, 2013, 08:44:18 PM
stainless steel gear sleeve? 
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Ron Jones on December 01, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
I agree Alan, I wouldn't think the brass Jigmaster sleeve would stand up to Bryan's drags for long.

Fantastic reel by the way. I'm not going the narrow route, have you seen the BFS on ebay?
Ron
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on December 01, 2013, 09:32:40 PM
my experience, SS sleeve should be OE on all expensive conventional SD reels. what's expensive, i guess that's subjective. ;D
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on December 01, 2013, 09:39:03 PM
Oops :P of course a Alan T SS sleeve. I've changed soooo many of these hat you almost take it for granted. Sorry Alan. In the evolution of this reel that was the first upgrade! ;)
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Alto Mare on December 03, 2013, 08:18:41 PM
OK Bob, I got me some ss hex screws from McMaster Carr and decided to give it a shot
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/001_zps6f79d61f.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/001_zps6f79d61f.jpg.html)
Not as shiny as yours, but I still like it.
Thanks for the tip guys.
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Ron Jones on December 03, 2013, 08:26:51 PM
Every Penn reel of mine will soon look like that! That is cool.
Ron
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on December 03, 2013, 10:01:25 PM
Sal, did you turn them with a lathe or like Lee suggested, with them chucked up in a drill and turned in the opposite direction of the grinding wheel? I know you were looking into a lathe so I'm thinking that would give a nice uniform appearance. BTW that reel is a work of art!
Bob
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Alto Mare on December 03, 2013, 10:33:25 PM
No Bob, no lathe yet, It's going to have to wait for now. I chucked them up on my hand held dremel and let them spin while working a grinding stone to it. Very easy to do, but you need  to be careful applying too much pressure, let the tool do the work.
Where did you get your screws? mine were roughly .7cents each.
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on December 03, 2013, 11:02:48 PM
I think on amazon? I've been on such a screw jones lately. It's probably for another thread but, what's your thoughts on the 114H screws. Again a difficult find. They are a 8-40. I was thinking maybe drill and tap to say a 10-32. Then there would be a heck of a lot more options. :-\
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: floating doc on December 04, 2013, 04:32:53 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 03, 2013, 10:33:25 PM
No Bob, no lathe yet, It's going to have to wait for now. I chucked them up on my hand held dremel and let them spin while working a grinding stone to it. Very easy to do, but you need  to be careful applying too much pressure, let the tool do the work.
Where did you get your screws? mine were roughly .7cents each.

So the dremel didn't damage the threads? Why a stone vs. a file?
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Keta on December 04, 2013, 04:48:26 AM
The Dremel's collet holds the screw almost full contact, if it does damage the threads it's only rolling them and they can be straightened out with a die nut.

Stones tend to leave a smoother finish.
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: erikpowell on December 04, 2013, 05:07:32 AM
I'm surfing McMaster-Carr for the first time .... nice !
are those torx screws you're using flat head or button head ?
8-32, T-15 right?  what's the length?

actually, I'm looking at them for my 113h too.... they're probably different eh?
thanks
E
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Alto Mare on December 04, 2013, 10:21:48 AM
No Damage on the threads, but as I mentioned above, I don't apply too much pressure.
I've tried the file, a stone does a better job. I actually use a sharpening stone that came with my vintage hand crank.
You might find other options, use whatever works for you.

Here you go Erik:
http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=92210A128
I did get the 5/8 also.

Sal
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on December 04, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
This is all good stuff! Now when I get on a head boat if I see someone with these kinda screws I'll know they are part of the A.T. Team ;D
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: floating doc on December 04, 2013, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: BMITCH on December 04, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
This is all good stuff! Now when I get on a head boat if I see someone with these kinda screws I'll know they are part of the A.T. Team ;D

I was thinking about doing this, especially since I need to buy some screws to finish this project.

Now you leave me no choice!
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: floating doc on December 04, 2013, 02:29:38 PM
What other reels do these fit? There's a lot of interchangeable parts in the jigmaster series and the 112H. Perhaps squidders and other small Penns?

I have two fastener stores within two miles of my house. I'll be going out later.
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: BMITCH on December 04, 2013, 03:19:17 PM
I'm pretty sure the 113H uses the 5-40 screw. I'm not 100% positive on the smaller 140's and 200's. Maybe someone could chime in on this who does know? :-\
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: erikpowell on December 04, 2013, 06:44:03 PM
Thanks Sal !
3 bucks for a box of 50 is great! If I could even find those screws here, they'd be 3 bucks EACH..... at least!
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: floating doc on December 04, 2013, 09:34:39 PM
Bought my screws, beveled the heads on a sharpening stone using a dremel, then polished the heads.

The side plate has a bit of JB Weld that needs to set up overnight. Tomorrow I can start assembly.
Title: Re: My jigging reel
Post by: Clipper on December 24, 2013, 11:53:26 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 03, 2013, 08:18:41 PM
OK Bob, I got me some ss hex screws from McMaster Carr and decided to give it a shot
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/001_zps6f79d61f.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/001_zps6f79d61f.jpg.html)
Not as shiny as yours, but I still like it.
Thanks for the tip guys.

Where did you get that awesome red handle?