I am looking into a yellowtail special style reel. I plan on using the YTS special for yo-yo jigging and live bait at the local islands here in So-Cal and the occasional LR trip.
I have a 113H, I just sold the HLW frame that came with it, so I am thinking about purchasing a Tiburon narrow frame and spool conversion. The reel came with 4:1 SS gears, so I would only need to purchase the frame/spool and the SS gear sleeve.
Also looking at the Pro Gear Yellowtail Special, swapping out the gears for the SS ones I have.
Third and final option is a Penn Baja Special. Might be overkill for a yo-yo rig, I see the Baja special as more for throwing LR jigs, mainly for wahoo, and then as a yo-yo/live bait rig. I really like this reel, but feel it may be under utilized as a yo-yo reel.
I feel all the reels are comparable, in their own right, and that is why I am asking. Feel free to drop your opinion on the matter.
Thanks, Scott.
I think the TANK can't be beat. Either a JVariance kit or a Tib frame and spool will be fine and the cost is in the same ball park. With you existing reel and all the upgrades you'll be close to the price of a Baja, but I think you will have a better reel.
Ron
It's funnier to build and fish your own reel.
I personally would go with a pro gear yellowtail special. Then benefits of penn's 113h guts with a solid frame.
Quote from: Bryan Young on December 08, 2013, 11:42:48 PM
I personally would go with a pro gear yellowtail special. Then benefits of penn's 113h guts with a solid frame.
and internal parts availability, very important part of the equation. :)
The Baja Special and Pro Gear are almost the same with a few main differences. The Progear has all metal frame and side plates and the Baja Special has stainless steel gears and double dog's. For me it was cheaper to either buy the YTS or 113HN than build one.
I had the honor to work on a 545 Pro Gear not long ago, it is a beautiful reel, but I has some senseless features.
If you're comparing it to the 113h...both out of the box, yes, the Pro Gear shines.
But, if you're comparing the Pro Gear with the 113HN Tank, with all the our latest upgrades, the Tank is a much better reel.
Not starting a war here, Just my thoughts.
Happy fishing!...
Sal
You could do all the same upgrades to a YTS and have a better reel than a Tank.
Thanks for all the input! I am leaning towards an eventual purchase of the pro gear YT special, but only if I cannot find a used or new 113H topless, narrow frame at a good price. I estimate total investment on 113H w/ upgrades would be around $200-$220 if I paid full retail for the Tib frame, could be much less, the frame is holding it up; doing upgrades to the Pro Gear would price it around the Baja Special if I bought new.
Are upgrades on the Pro Gear YTS necessary, or is it the same with a 113H, fun to do and say you did, but not "necessary" for a successful catch?.
I am not making the purchase anytime soon, so I have time to search and buy.
++Oh yeah, does the Pro Gear YTS have a model #, similar to the others, or is the model designation actually YTS?
Quote from: SoCalAngler on December 10, 2013, 07:30:45 AM
You could do all the same upgrades to a YTS and have a better reel than a Tank.
Uh Oh! Some one is calling you out Sal!
SoCal Angler, if I would guess my lottery numbers the same as I guessed you answering my comment, I would be a rich man ;D ;D.
Does the 545 or any other 4/0 narrowed Pro Gears come with adjustable bearing cups on right side and left side of the plates?
I have a 113h Tank with Accu-plates that I'm able to adjust the spool or replace the bearings very easily.
That same reel gives me over 35lbs of drag at max using our upgrades, give me an idea on how you were going to get there with the Pro Gear. Also, some of us are still working on some additional upgrades.
I should be receiving a stainless steel bridge with two dogs already installed on it. I already have the jack and yoke in stainless steel, the yoke is heat treated and so will the jack.
I'm sure we're not done yet and no, you won't be able to purchase one today to match it at a better price.
I should be receiving a stainless steel bridge with two dogs already installed on it. I already have the jack and yoke in stainless steel, the yoke is heat treated and so will the jack.
HOLY COW! :o :o you guys are killing me. Just when I thought ALL the upgrades were done...you pull me back in. Eventually we will run out of parts that should or can be made out of SS. Then and only then will I rest easy to put my reels back together. I'm now lifting weights in order to handle these reels made completely out of SS. They going to start to weigh a bit :D at least me bank book will be a lot lighter!
Bob, from what I hear, stainless steel is lighter than brass. I just checked my brass sleeve, I was working on one and that sleeve is 1.7oz., the stainless sleeve is 1.6oz.
Thanks Sal. I learn something new here every day.
SS Bridge with double dogs! :P
Lee?
Quote from: Shark Hunter on December 10, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
SS Bridge with double dogs! :P
Lee?
No.
Don't get excited they're still testing, but I'm sure it will happen one way or another.
Yeah, this will happen at the exact time I get all my reels put back together ;D wah,wah,wah. Really Sal, I can't tell you how much I appreciate the time and patience you have brought to ALL these upgrades. This is basically erector sets for adults. What a great hobby.
Bob
Bob, I thank you for your kind words, but I'm not the only one involved, we're working as a team. You and VW ( Wallace) also have something into this reel, those are some nice stainless steel screws upgrades. ;)
Sorry guys, I made a mistake, the bridge and dogs are going to be for the Jig-Master, not the Tank....I'm getting ahead of myself ::)
this was originally Tom's idea (Irish Jigger), they're just bringing it up a notch.
Not reinventing the wheel...just improving it! Keep-um coming ;D ;D
OK guys, we're stretching this a bit...me included ;D. Let get back to Sundaytrucka's question.
If you have comments on why you think the 113H Tank is a better reel or vice versa, go for it.
We will save these other good stuff for another post.
Thanks!
Sal
Scott, i have the PG541, basically 113 guts except the yoke and eccentric jack. upgrades include A.T. SS sleeve and Pro Challenger 4:1 SS gears. will install "Keta Cranks" later. tried to upgrade the yoke with SS one but they don't match but i think if i replace the jack with part #011 113 this will solve it. keeping my fingers crossed.
whichever you decide on, you won't be disappointed. good luck!
Isn't the progear a one piece frame and a side plate? Never had one apart but they seem well built. When all is said and done cost of the tank with all the bling may be more then the progear? Unless you can get a tank at a deal. Then the question is...are there a lot of upgrades that can be done to the progear? And if so how much?
I think that a lot of this discussion focuses on fact the 113 H has so many aftermarket parts available. If more becomes available for the Baja special then that reel becomes a viable alternative.
the Baja doesn't have a stainless sleeve in production yet, does it?
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 10, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
SoCal Angler, if I would guess my lottery numbers the same as I guessed you answering my comment, I would be a rich man ;D ;D.
Does the 545 or any other 4/0 narrowed Pro Gears come with adjustable bearing cups on right side and left side of the plates?
I have a 113h Tank with Accu-plates that I'm able to adjust the spool or replace the bearings very easily.
That same reel gives me over 35lbs of drag at max using our upgrades, give me an idea on how you were going to get there with the Pro Gear. Also, some of us are still working on some additional upgrades.
I should be receiving a stainless steel bridge with two dogs already installed on it. I already have the jack and yoke in stainless steel, the yoke is heat treated and so will the jack.
I'm sure we're not done yet and no, you won't be able to purchase one today to match it at a better price.
I'm not trying to start a pissing match just to give a little insite. Yes you can adjust the beairing cup in the pro Gears but why would you want too? Just like any reel you adjust for a little play and leave set to get max freespool. Second a 545 is a different reel (almost the same) than a YTS. A YTS, the 545 also, uses the same internals as the 113 so why could you not do the same upgrades? With all the stainless goodies installed and a stock one piece, all metal frame, with 2 screw sideplate removal, stock narrow spool, no need to grind sideplate if you want to double dog why would a YTS be a lesser reel in your eyes?
Sorry just reread your post. Its the left side plate with adjustable bearing not right. Why would you ever want to adust the right side anyway?
SoCal, as I said above, those are my thoughts and yes I still personally believe the 113H Tank is a Much better reel. ;)
Having the right side adjustable bearing is a very good thing, makes it possible to always have the spool aligned perfectly, it will also help with not having the bearing welded to the side plate!
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 10, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
SoCal Angler, if I would guess my lottery numbers the same as I guessed you answering my comment, I would be a rich man ;D ;D.
Does the 545 or any other 4/0 narrowed Pro Gears come with adjustable bearing cups on right side and left side of the plates?
I have a 113h Tank with Accu-plates that I'm able to adjust the spool or replace the bearings very easily.
That same reel gives me over 35lbs of drag at max using our upgrades, give me an idea on how you were going to get there with the Pro Gear. Also, some of us are still working on some additional upgrades.
I should be receiving a stainless steel bridge with two dogs already installed on it. I already have the jack and yoke in stainless steel, the yoke is heat treated and so will the jack.
I'm sure we're not done yet and no, you won't be able to purchase one today to match it at a better price.
i want the ss bridge with the Dog's and the jack please any info on these ???
I use my narrow 113h tank for vertical jigging and it works flawlessly ;D
Good luck on your decision Scott.
Here is what is being offered by our members:
Fully Accurate YTS - http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=5259.0
NIB Pro Gear YTS - http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7512.0
scott,
here are my senators 112H and 113H;
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8544.0
did upgrades after this photo and will post photos later. also when i get back next yr will buy the narrow kit for my 112 and it will be one of my 30lb reels.
as for upgrades for the Pro Gears with 113H internals you can use the after-market internal parts (most anyway) for 113H. also my PG541 came with SS pinion and i think i will dbl dog this one in the future because the side plate is metal (alum). anyways whatever you decide on it will work.
Alan (Tani) once did a tutorial on a fully done Accurate Senator, he felt the factory side plates were more than adequate and I agree with him. If a Tank and a PG YTS are built to the same standard you basically have the same reel. The Tib kit and 113H together should almost always be less than the Pro Gear and so I think you save a little money with the TANK. Regardless, both reels, duly upgraded, will fish with the best of them in this size range.
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on December 10, 2013, 11:03:10 PM
Alan (Tani) once did a tutorial on a fully done Accurate Senator, he felt the factory side plates were more than adequate and I agree with him. If a Tank and a PG YTS are built to the same standard you basically have the same reel.
Yes, but the earlier Pro Gear models had corrosion issues, I guess you could help them, but you need to take them apart more often than most.
Keep in mind, we didn't do maintenance then as we do today, also, I don't believe this is the same with the later models.
On another note, it's not a good idea to recommend a reel that doesn't exist anymore, how would you replace parts if you can't find them?
This is not the case with the Senators, you will always find parts for a Tank and just in case you can't we'll make you one ;).
Good luck with your decision, either way you go, I'm sure there are a few here that could help you find what you need.....if needed.
Sal
Nice! ;)
Quote from: sundaytrucka on December 08, 2013, 09:36:03 PM
I am looking into a yellowtail special style reel. I plan on using the YTS special for yo-yo jigging and live bait at the local islands here in So-Cal and the occasional LR trip.
I have a 113H, I just sold the HLW frame that came with it, so I am thinking about purchasing a Tiburon narrow frame and spool conversion. The reel came with 4:1 SS gears, so I would only need to purchase the frame/spool and the SS gear sleeve.
Also looking at the Pro Gear Yellowtail Special, swapping out the gears for the SS ones I have.
Third and final option is a Penn Baja Special. Might be overkill for a yo-yo rig, I see the Baja special as more for throwing LR jigs, mainly for wahoo, and then as a yo-yo/live bait rig. I really like this reel, but feel it may be under utilized as a yo-yo reel.
I feel all the reels are comparable, in their own right, and that is why I am asking. Feel free to drop your opinion on the matter.
Thanks, Scott.
Why do you think the Baja Special is over kill? It is the same size as the other two reels you are discussing, already has the double dogs, versa drags and stainless gears, etc. It is a comparable reel without all the extra work. I like my Baja's, but then I like my 113H's with Accurate/Tib/Jvariance frames and plates.
I didn't think the Baja has a stainless gear sleeve? In high drag uses, that is very important to me. I have rounded off brass sleeves at horrible times and would just as soon never have that happen again.
Ron
Thanks for the input and discussion. Like I said, more leaning towards the 113H, really looking for the narrow frame, otherwise I am going the pro gear route and installing all the stainless internals I already have from a 113H.
Quote from: day0ne on December 11, 2013, 07:44:29 AM
Why do you think the Baja Special is over kill? It is the same size as the other two reels you are discussing, already has the double dogs, versa drags and stainless gears, etc. It is a comparable reel without all the extra work. I like my Baja's, but then I like my 113H's with Accurate/Tib/Jvariance frames and plates.
Not necessarily overkill, it is being considered for purchase, but more that I may not utilize the freespool abilities; being that I see the Baja more for LR surface/wahoo iron and yo-yo. Also, for the price, if I get a used pro gear or planned 113H upgrades at a good price, it may set the Baja special at $250 retail to the curb. I really want one, not putting it down in any way...future purchase no doubt; think of it as too good of a reel for my current needs.
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 11, 2013, 12:42:28 AM
On another note, it's not a good idea to recommend a reel that doesn't exist anymore, how would you replace parts if you can't find them?
This is not the case with the Senators, you will always find parts for a Tank and just in case you can't we'll make you one ;).
Good luck with your decision, either way you go, I'm sure there are a few here that could help you find what you need.....if needed.
Sal
Sal, I agree with you if normal wear items were not readily available. Since the PG YTS's internals are essentially Penn 113H (bridge, yoke, eccentric, eccentric lever, bearings, handle arm, and gears), the other 3 remaining items are the frame, sideplate, and spool, there is a very low probability that these items will become an issue. Additionally, this reel is braid ready with tight tolerances. I would need to buy Accuplates and Accuframe to achieve braid ready tolerances from the 113H. In both cases, you would have a purdy reel that is ready to tackle a lot of variety of fish.
Sorry if this is obvious, is a Baja Special braid ready?
Yes, the Baja is braid ready.
Dominick (Pescachaser) is the proud owner of my original 113H Tank, he used that reel loaded with braid and it performed flawlessly.
On most of my older penn reels that have the aluminum spools, the gap from the spool lip to the inner ring is very tight.
Thanks for keeping the info coming. It is going to be the 113H or the pro gear, time and a deal will tell.
Could anybody answer if the PG YTS has a model #, is it Pro Gear YTS ###, or simply Pro Gear YTS?
-Scott
I thought about building a tank, but I don't have a 113H to start with. When I added all the costs, plus compared the cost of a YTS, it made more sense to watch for a deal on a Baja Special. Got mine for $190, NIB.
I already had the 112H for my mini-tank.
The older models are 454. I would personally only buy ones that say yellow tail special.
Quote from: Bryan Young on December 12, 2013, 04:47:20 AM
The older models are 454. I would personally only buy ones that say yellow tail special.
x2 less "bugs"... :D;D
My 113 h reels are loaded with 100#braid and twenty to thirty feet of 100# mono.i fish in water from 60 ft to 150 ft and I fish 2 to 3 times a month, I have never had a problem with the braid just saying. Going on two yrs the only thing I have done was taking out the ht 100 under the gear do to shredding.
Guys when all is said and done this guy is looking for a reel to fish 40lb, 50lb max for the the type of applications he talked about. For me fishing the areas he mentioned I fish 30lb max for my surface , yoyo iron and bait. Now when he starts doing trips 4 days or longer out of SD, or traveling down into Baja to Mag Bay, Loreto and La Paz thats when I use 40lb for these applications. Will I fish 40lb on trips under 4 days long, yes but it is very seldom, maybe one trip out of twentyfive will 40lb be needed, maybe even less.
On 15 day trips I make bait with a 40lb rig.
Yeah, what Socal said.
What is the opinion on an Accurate vs. Tiburon frame? Have a line on both, read the accurates does not have the best fitment sometimes.
Accurate frames haven't been made in quite a while (years). Tib frames are still made and the newer ones are topless (nice feature). That alone would make my decision. The newest Tib frames don't need the inner chrome rings but won't work with Accurate side plates
The newer Tib frames without the inner rings are great! I would go with that.IMO.
Bob
I had no experience with aftermarket frames before buying my Tiburon narrow 112HN frame and spool kit. Very nice quality.
Quote from: BMITCH on December 13, 2013, 09:17:39 AM
The newer Tib frames without the inner rings are great! I would go with that.IMO.
Bob
x2
Go with the Tib! They are the Bomb! ;)
Dont tell me the 113h tank is not "braid ready" after all the time/money/effort. This would be a RE-OCCURING NIGHTMARE >:( of the old jig masters I USED to own. I damn near gave/threw them away due to line crawling up between the spool and the frame at the worst times (typically with a fish on). I was just fondling my 113's last nite and happened to look at the fit between the spool and frame (Tib). I spun the spools to check for any variances in the gap and everything looked good ???. Bryan and anyone else; have you run across Tib framed 113h YTS conversions with braid/line eating problems? If this is the case, it will be a complete GAME CHANGER/DEAL BREAKER for me (I'll have some hot rod 113h's for sale) >:(. Im sure or would hope that someone would have brought this up by now.
Leo
The tolerances on the jigmaster weren't impressive. I tried to spool a 506 with 20 mono and it was unusable. I've been casting conventional reels since I was a kid and I couldn't keep the line out of the sideplates.
Sold it on ebay. One good thing though; I found this forum while I was trying to figure out how to make it work. :) i
Floating doc andLTM, these are good and valid questions. Don't want to hijack this thread, so I'll start a new one and see if anyone has first hand experience with the braid eating reels.
Thanks,
Bob
Quote from: BMITCH on December 13, 2013, 08:45:06 PM
Floating doc andLTM, these are good and valid questions. Don't want to hijack this thread, so I'll start a new one and see if anyone has first hand experience with the braid eating reels.
Thanks,
Bob
Bob,
It seems that Sal has answered that question.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=9123.msg82098#msg82098 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=9123.msg82098#msg82098)
Yes,
Dominick had no problems reeling in this giant roosterfish with the Tank and 80lb braid. ;)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/roosterfish_zpse5fde928.jpg)
Daron, I think the real question comes up with casting, not trolling?? I could be wrong though.
Although I don't have one in front of me, I couldn't imagine a new Tib framed, aluminum spooled 113H of any width is going to have issues with 60 pound braid or higher. 30 pound mono doesn't slip through on a regular reel so I am certain you will be fine with a tank.
Ron
like I said a hundred times >:( I have no issues with braid on my jig masters or my 113 and I fish a lot.I can castu my Jig master with 65 pound braid a country mile 8)
Ok, time to throw a wrench into things...
I love the YTS style reels, but after comparing the standard width 113H to the Narrow 113H (YTS tib frame), there is only about a .35 inch difference between the two. I am getting pedantic now, but does that really offer a difference in fishability, or is it more the style and history that come with a narrowed 113H? Not knocking it, style alone is worth the conversion, but I did not realize there was such a small difference in size from inner steel ring to inner steel ring, between standard and narrow.
Does the narrow actually make the reel more fishable for yo-yo/live bait? Having never used a narrow before.
-Scott
Here we go again. ::)
Sunday, pedantic....really. I had to freaking look that one up. You never know what you'll learn around here. If only we had a pedantic plinth in which to put the reels on :o
To answer the question you had. The reason for the narrow spools is line lay on the retrieve. Easier to get it even when retrieving on a narrow then on a normal or wide. That's why most jigging reels come narrow. I only jig with narrows. Broschro has more experience on these and has had no issues. I would go with the narrowed up Penn's every time. This way you can buy and install all the bling.
Bob
I truly love my narrow reels. Lots of big AJ's and cobia too 40 + #s caught on the 113 and 505 with stock gears at the time. I haven't been out far enough to try out the new ss gears but I will probably wait tell BP gets the new gear and bridge done. Right now lots of black seabass and grouper right offshore about 10 mils out and we got some nice ones last week will post some pics later. Again if you have a tib or accurate frame and aluminum spool, you will have no problems with braid.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on December 14, 2013, 08:31:49 AM
Here we go again. ::)
I know, I know. lol Just my style...pedantic.
I hear you guys on the narrow for retrieve and jigging. Have never used a narrow version reel before.
Thanks for all the help guys.
Quote from: sundaytrucka on December 14, 2013, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on December 14, 2013, 08:31:49 AM
Here we go again. ::)
I know, I know. lol Just my style...pedantic.
I hear you guys on the narrow for retrieve and jigging. Have never used a narrow version reel before.
Thanks for all the help guys.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: broschro on December 14, 2013, 03:32:47 PM
I truly love my narrow reels. Lots of big AJ's and cobia too 40 + #s caught on the 113 and 505 with stock gears at the time. I haven't been out far enough to try out the new ss gears but I will probably wait tell BP gets the new gear and bridge done. Right now lots of black seabass and grouper right offshore about 10 mils out and we got some nice ones last week will post some pics later. Again if you have a tib or accurate frame and aluminum spool, you will have no problems with braid.
I've never used a narrowed reel either. I have a 112HN with the Tiburon frame and spool and am waiting for the new pinion also. I would like to be there when you try yours. You're doing a jigmaster or a 112H?
I'm doing a 505 99 size, and a 501 with tib frame. April will be a good time to try these out on some cobia and amber jack.im always looking for some help with gas and such. Let me know what your schedules like in the New Year and we will make it happen.im going to try and make it out on a charter in January I will keep you posted.
Just so you know, I didn't go all for not on this subject, I decided on the 113H Yellowtail Special. Picked up a topless, narrow Tiburon frame in silver this afternoon.
For a total of $160 invested, for the sake of argument.
Reel has:
4:1 SS Newel Gears
5-1 Carbontex Drag System
SS Gear Sleeve from Bryan
Double, Dual-Engaging SS Dogs from Lee
Topless Narrow Tib Frame
Sorry for bad lighting on pics.
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee27/wilmar400/2014-01-19_18-07-22_620.jpg) (http://s229.photobucket.com/user/wilmar400/media/2014-01-19_18-07-22_620.jpg.html)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee27/wilmar400/2014-01-19_18-16-53_77.jpg) (http://s229.photobucket.com/user/wilmar400/media/2014-01-19_18-16-53_77.jpg.html)
I actually have all 3 of the reels in question:
1 113HN - nothing done to it except greased the drags
1 progear 541 all bling out including double dog, ss sleeve, ss gears, 7+1 drag stack
1 113H with t4 frame, all bling out with double dog, ss sleeve, ss gears, modified drag stack via bryan's thin washers, 4 customized carbon fiber drag and dremeled gears.
just from pulling on the drag the 113HN gives the least high end drag while the 113H give the smoothest and strongest drag. The 541 is also very smooth. As for castability the 541 cast the best with the HN coming in close second. The 113H is a little too big for my hand to cast comfortably. The 541 feel the most comfortable in my hands due to its smaller size (similar to a jigmaster).
Quote from: floating doc on December 15, 2013, 01:38:36 AM
Quote from: broschro on December 14, 2013, 03:32:47 PM
I truly love my narrow reels. Lots of big AJ's and cobia too 40 + #s caught on the 113 and 505 with stock gears at the time. I haven't been out far enough to try out the new ss gears but I will probably wait tell BP gets the new gear and bridge done. Right now lots of black seabass and grouper right offshore about 10 mils out and we got some nice ones last week will post some pics later. Again if you have a tib or accurate frame and aluminum spool, you will have no problems with braid.
I've never used a narrowed reel either. I have a 112HN with the Tiburon frame and spool and am waiting for the new pinion also. I would like to be there when you try yours. You're doing a jigmaster or a 112H?
Doc,
I switched out the BP's 5:1 gears and went back to the 4:1 steel gears I got off the internet. The gears fit perfectly with the OEM pinion and I feel comfortably fishing the 112H at 18 to 20 lbs drags without issue. I like the 4:1 ratio on most of my reels as it seem perfectly suited for live bait and throwing jigs. If you look at most of the smaller 2 speed reels, the low speed is around 3 to 4:1 so with a longer and and oversized handle I am able to fish a 4:1 star drags in a similar manner.
Are the steel 4:1 gears a stock Penn part? Are they hard to find?
Quote from: floating doc on January 20, 2014, 03:47:45 AM
Are the steel 4:1 gears a stock Penn part? Are they hard to find?
Doc, I don't know if they are penn parts or not as they are used. I got mine for $10 each. just a bit polishing and dremeling to clean it up a bit. Feel very solid. Just look on ebay for 112H gears. I know they are steel as they are magnetic.
The older steel gears are the Bomb! ;D
When I purchase an older 116 or 117, the steel gears are a Bonus! They are very tough! I winched in a 7 foot Blacktip with a 12/0 in a matter of minutes. It was like a Zebco 202 reeling in a Bluegill! ;)
I know that the old Penn steel gears weren't stainless, but I would still take a set. I didn't think they made those for the 112H/jigmaster gear applications.
I'll start watching.
Doc, if I were you I'd sit on it for awhile. If you see a set of gears on the bay then go for it. I think that Alan C may have a resolve in the not to distant future. Those gears when up to par are going to be hands down superior. Just a thought.
Bob
I am waiting, not so patiently, for Alan to get his gears sorted out for a 501 build. With the larger spool of the 112H, I am OK with a steel Penn 4:1 gear, I have one in my Tuna Special and it is my favorite reel. If I was building a dedicated 112HN for jigging then the BP gears would be the way to go.
Ron
Quote from: BMITCH on January 20, 2014, 04:13:15 PM
Doc, if I were you I'd sit on it for awhile. If you see a set of gears on the bay then go for it. I think that Alan C may have a resolve in the not to distant future. Those gears when up to par are going to be hands down superior. Just a thought.
Bob
Good advice. I'll follow it; after all I don't expect to be fishing for a few months.