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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on December 11, 2013, 11:53:21 AM

Title: senator after-market frame
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on December 11, 2013, 11:53:21 AM
please anyone, which frame is on this video? is this a senator or sealine? 1 min 20 secs into the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bnnFkZoMdE&feature=em-subs_digest

Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Shark Hunter on December 11, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
Accurate. They are damn near impossible to get unless you want to pay through the nose.
The last one I saw on ebay went for $250 I believe.
Quite a few members here have them. I am not one of them.
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on December 11, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
i think it's a sealine though not a senator. i should have posted this under General Questions...thanks!
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Shark Hunter on December 11, 2013, 12:09:17 PM
Looking at it again, I stand corrected. I thought it was a 9/0. Its a Daiwa sealine 600H. They come with this gold looking frame. I thought it was a 9/0 Senator with accurate frame.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAIWA-SEALINE-600H-6-0-BIG-GAME-FISHING-TROLLING-REEL-2-POSITION-HANDLE-USED-/151182161284?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233328b584
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Bryan Young on December 11, 2013, 02:25:53 PM
Reel say's Captain's Choice.  I think Captain's Choice is from Bass Pro Shop if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on December 12, 2013, 01:56:22 AM
If it is a captains choice, the 4/0s like to blow up on long runs :o :o
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Shark Hunter on December 12, 2013, 02:00:34 AM
Guess I stand corrected again!
http://www.basspro.com/Offshore-Angler-Captains-Choice-6/0-Reel/product/89099/
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Ron Jones on December 12, 2013, 04:55:18 AM
80 dollars for a Penn clone with a knock off Acu-Frame. I'm almost tempted to buy one, open it up and see what can be done.
Ron
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: floating doc on December 12, 2013, 05:00:59 AM
Quote from: noyb72 on December 12, 2013, 04:55:18 AM
80 dollars for a Penn clone with a knock off Acu-Frame. I'm almost tempted to buy one, open it up and see what can be done.
Ron

Try it.  China needs the money!  ;D
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: pcde123 on December 12, 2013, 06:30:04 AM
37lb drag? this knock off has more drag than a senator wahhh?? recovery rate is a slight bit higher than a 113h 28 inches vs 28.9 inches, knock offs alos a bit lighter 41 oz vs 47oz and holds aslight bit more line than a senator 50/475
vs 450/50 , description says "No-nonsense brass and steel guts and gears" all stainless steel insides,1-piece machined-aluminum frame,Heavy-gauge machined-aluminum spool seems to me that bass pro did a good job to put every slight advantage  they could find on the senator, i might grab one of these used on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Captains-Choice-Offshore-Angler-4-0-Class-Reel-/201002804605?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eccb3657d
4/0 version bidding , no bids yet, tell me if your gonna try bidding on this because i dont wanna compete with fellow alan tani anglers
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on December 12, 2013, 10:25:02 AM
i'm tempted too Ron...seems it, at least after watching the video, performed well.
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: BMITCH on December 12, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
This is interesting  :o if anyone has one of these I would love to see what the " guts" look like. In the past I have bought a couple of reels branded under the cabela's name. They all reside now in the circular file. IMO garbage. Like I said would like a peek at the internals. Not only for materials but also for fit and finish. The other question would be parts.
Bob
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Alto Mare on December 12, 2013, 11:45:25 AM
You know, we could talk about brand names and manufacturers, but the bottom line is " the proof is in the pudding".
I don't know anything about the Captains-Choice reels, but I do know a little about their rods.
The rod on this test is a Captain-Choice:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8873.msg78917#msg78917
This is one of my favorite rod, I only have one and been looking for a while to get some more.
If anyone finds one, please let me know.
Here is some info on it: Captain-Choice FB564060

I wonder if some other brand name could take the same punishment :-\

Sal

Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: Shark Hunter on December 12, 2013, 11:50:16 AM
I've been looking for that rod too Sal with no luck.
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: BMITCH on December 12, 2013, 12:07:53 PM
Maybe we need to get Sal one of these reels and let him go to town! Again the question would be replacement parts. I've taken apart the cabela's reels (looked a lot like Okuma) but the final finish on the internals was rough. Not much else to say.like a low grade Okuma knock-off. I'll stick with Penn. what else would I do with all the parts I have now not to  mention the $ invested.
Title: Re: senator after-market frame
Post by: erikpowell on December 23, 2013, 03:37:25 AM
Chiming in late here, but I just saw this thread.

Speaking of the Captain's Choice from BassPro:

I have a pair of what seems to be OEM Abu Garcia 6/0's.
As far as I can see Abu never produced this reel.

To me it is identical to the Captains Choice 6/0

(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q680/fijigreen69/SANY0001_zps6b564fee.jpg) (http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/fijigreen69/media/SANY0001_zps6b564fee.jpg.html)

(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q680/fijigreen69/SANY0001_zps138b7397.jpg) (http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/fijigreen69/media/SANY0001_zps138b7397.jpg.html)

I've been hunting for a replacement bearing cap, click tongue & spring, and some other bits for awhile now.

It has a steel main gear about the size of a 114/115 but a jig master size gear sleeve/stud with bearing.

Any ideas on where to find a parts list and buy parts?
The reels were passed on to a local Fijian fella here from a visiting fisherman and I'm trying to salvage them for him.

Thanks !