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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: TheReelGuy850 on December 16, 2013, 01:19:10 AM

Title: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: TheReelGuy850 on December 16, 2013, 01:19:10 AM
Got a decent little penn 3/0 laying around in a Ziploc and want to get it put back together for the upcoming season here on the gulf coast. Its pretty much all there minus a few things but ive got the foundation. What aftermarket bearings are available for a longer and smoother cast? Does boca make any? Are stainless internals available?
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: floating doc on December 16, 2013, 01:46:06 AM
Which reel? The black sideplate 112 or the red sideplate 112H? Neither has bearings.

BTW, don't store it in a baggie. The condensation will corrode it.
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: TheReelGuy850 on December 16, 2013, 02:54:35 AM
Its the red sideplate 112. Yea didnt think about the corrosion from condensation.out of the bag it comes.thanks
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: BMITCH on December 16, 2013, 03:10:21 AM
That is a bullet proof, non bearing, bushing sportIng, fish killing machine there. Put it together and post pics. ;D
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: floating doc on December 16, 2013, 03:28:18 AM
ooh, be careful! I found one in a box when I last moved. I've been slowly building it, and by now have spent enough to buy a new avet! ::)
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: Ron Jones on December 16, 2013, 05:48:20 AM
We don't talk about how much money we put into 112H Senators. It's just not nice.
Ron
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: TheReelGuy850 on December 16, 2013, 01:41:24 PM
Well I guess its time for new bushings and some stainless gut! ;D going to double dog and mag it!
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: floating doc on December 16, 2013, 09:29:45 PM
Go for it!
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: Bryan Young on December 16, 2013, 10:58:26 PM
Anything is possible...I just built one up for one of my customers. 

BNOS (Brand New Old Stock) USA 112H (Someone on Oahu) - $100 (price includes shipping and a little gift for a friend to pick it up and mail it)
Cobalt Tiburion Frame and Spool (Greg Chow) - $175
SS Gear Sleeve (AT) - $20
SS Gears (BP) - $50
SS Handle Arm (AT) - $8
3/0 Handle (AT) - $27
two SS Dawgs (Keta) - $6
SS leave Spring (ReelSpeed) - $2
5+1 Drag Kit (ReelSpeed) -  $27

Total for parts to make this reel was $415.  This reel was built out of his love for a reliable, no nonsense reel.

Yes, it adds up quickly, but it all doesn't have to be done all at once.
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: Ron Jones on December 16, 2013, 11:02:22 PM
Bryan!
I said it isn't nice to do that! If my wife ever reads this. Well, I guess she does want another coach purse and a set of shoes.
Ron
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: BMITCH on December 16, 2013, 11:09:36 PM
Maybe $400+ but anything you buy will need the bling so where to start. Start with a proven reel with years of experience and parts availablity. Just build it piece by piece. That way it hardly hurts :D
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: Alto Mare on December 16, 2013, 11:16:39 PM
Don't get scared reelguy, you could get away with under $200. No need for Gregg chow's kits or a new 112H.
If you shop around, you might get one that doesn't need much more, here is one, just to give an example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penn-112H-Senator-Newell-Tuna-Special-Reel-2-7-16-inches-wide-Made-in-USA-/141135802950?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20dc597246
I've seen 112H's go for as low as $40, add a couple of options available and you'll end up with a nice reel for a fraction of what Bryan spent ;)
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: Ron Jones on December 17, 2013, 12:02:18 AM
The owner of the Tuna Special on Ebay is proud of it. I got my kit for $60.00ish and I think the dilapidated reel was $25.00ish. You can do real good with these reels if you are patient.
Ron
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: floating doc on December 17, 2013, 12:59:08 AM
I am not sure where my reel came from. I think my wife picked it up at a garage sale, but anyhow i already owned it. Sometimes free is the most expensive!

Bryan, the spring for the second dog is the hardest part for me. It looks like you used a leaf spring. Details?
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: TheReelGuy850 on December 17, 2013, 01:42:37 AM
Well guys im very impressed at the wealth of knowledge here.Im definitely going to build it.Itll take some time but ill get there.Just new to building these so forgive me if i ask a ton of questions ;D

Color combination wise i want black and lime green..sound crazy?? if im gonna do it i might as well go all the way!
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: Bryan Young on December 17, 2013, 06:02:29 AM
Quote from: floating doc on December 17, 2013, 12:59:08 AMBryan, the spring for the second dog is the hardest part for me. It looks like you used a leaf spring. Details?
I knew I should have taken pictures of the dog set-up.

I cut a groove in the side plate to hold the leaf spring and bent it toward the main gear.  I also cut a groove in the dog so that leaf spring would sit in the dog and would not slide out.
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: Alto Mare on December 17, 2013, 11:15:19 AM
There is lots of information here, just look around. Here is one option:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=5473.0

and another:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7864.0
The pin and coiled spring has been working out best for me.
Title: Re: hot rodding penn 3/0
Post by: Keta on December 17, 2013, 03:57:48 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 17, 2013, 11:15:19 AM
The pin and coiled spring has been working out best for me.

I have dogs with slots and "pins" drawn up but haven't cut any however I've found that the flat spring is easier for me to deal with.