Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Ambassadeur Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Tile on December 19, 2013, 09:44:34 PM

Title: Antireverse security spring
Post by: Tile on December 19, 2013, 09:44:34 PM
The Abu Garcia antireverse dog uses a a leaf spring that grips the ratchet and insures the engagement of it in the teeth of the ratchet. However the leaf spring can loosen over time and the engagement cannot be maintained resulting in a failed antireverse. After much deliberation I decided to do away with the (potential) problem by adding an extra spring to insure the meshing of the dog and ratchet at all times and the solution was to convert a 7mm diameter traction spring by creating a hook that catches the dog and a straight tale that keeps it in place around the dog security post and in essence creating a torsion spring. The side effect is a clicking antireverse. I did this modification to my Abu Garcia AG Seven and the Fladen Maxximus 777NB
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: Bryan Young on December 19, 2013, 09:50:23 PM
That is awesome.  How does it work?  No binding or limited movement?
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: Tile on December 19, 2013, 09:54:13 PM
The spring works by pushing the dog against the ratchet at all times and does not limit the movement of the dog. The modification is similar to the one done by Alan on a Shimano Trinidad 40
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: Frank on December 19, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
Nice!!!
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: Snagged2 on December 20, 2013, 01:16:02 AM
Nice,,,
I have installed a secondary "dog" to a 7000 C3, and an older 9000 2-speed.. but, hadn't thought of a "torsional" helper!!
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: Shark Hunter on December 20, 2013, 03:31:55 AM
Good Job Tile! You gave me a great idea on how to fix my old Daiwa AS7050. These have anti reverse issues and this would be the ticket! Thanks for sharing! ;)
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: alantani on December 20, 2013, 04:23:49 AM
sheer geunis!
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: raumati01 on December 20, 2013, 10:55:25 AM
Well done, I wonder if I could something similar on my trinidad 16n a?
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: Keta on December 20, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: raumati01 on December 20, 2013, 10:55:25 AM
Well done, I wonder if I could something similar on my trinidad 16n a?

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=509.0
(http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=509.0)
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: raumati01 on December 20, 2013, 07:13:59 PM
Quote from: Keta on December 20, 2013, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: raumati01 on December 20, 2013, 10:55:25 AM
Well done, I wonder if I could something similar on my trinidad 16n a?

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=509.0
(http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=509.0)

Cheers. There are two dogs on the a series , hopefully there's not too much difference between them.
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: Ken_D on December 20, 2013, 09:40:42 PM
Smart. I myself do not know what or where the tractions spring is used. I assume it's a stock part from another reel? Or? Thanks.
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: pointbob on October 26, 2023, 04:19:59 PM
Quote from: Tile on December 19, 2013, 09:44:34 PMThe Abu Garcia antireverse dog uses a a leaf spring that grips the ratchet and insures the engagement of it in the teeth of the ratchet. However the leaf spring can loosen over time and the engagement cannot be maintained resulting in a failed antireverse. After much deliberation I decided to do away with the (potential) problem by adding an extra spring to insure the meshing of the dog and ratchet at all times and the solution was to convert a 7mm diameter traction spring by creating a hook that catches the dog and a straight tale that keeps it in place around the dog security post and in essence creating a torsion spring. The side effect is a clicking antireverse. I did this modification to my Abu Garcia AG Seven and the Fladen Maxximus 777NB

this is incredible; I suck at mechanical things...is there a stupid-proof way to create this spring? (a utube video lol) or even an alternative simple version it? I love my old abu 6600c witht he double leaf but I know I'm going to wreck it somehow hauling in a 30pound salmon on max drag...
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: borntofish on October 28, 2023, 06:37:23 AM
Quote from: pointbob on October 26, 2023, 04:19:59 PMthis is incredible; I suck at mechanical things...is there a stupid-proof way to create this spring? (a utube video lol) or even an alternative simple version it? I love my old abu 6600c witht he double leaf but I know I'm going to wreck it somehow hauling in a 30pound salmon on max drag...

This might help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubQqYq5vmnc
Title: Re: Antireverse security spring
Post by: pointbob on October 28, 2023, 11:47:41 PM
Quote from: borntofish on October 28, 2023, 06:37:23 AM
Quote from: pointbob on October 26, 2023, 04:19:59 PMthis is incredible; I suck at mechanical things...is there a stupid-proof way to create this spring? (a utube video lol) or even an alternative simple version it? I love my old abu 6600c witht he double leaf but I know I'm going to wreck it somehow hauling in a 30pound salmon on max drag...

This might help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubQqYq5vmnc

thank you