Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Shark Hunter on January 05, 2014, 07:23:55 PM

Title: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 05, 2014, 07:23:55 PM
I got Bryans ss springs and Lee's washers and dogs yesterday. Time for some double doggin'. I'm going to attempt three reels in one evening. With BP's Hex in each one.
First, is the half frame 114HLW, I already put the Hex in this one, it just needs the double ss dogs and springs. (http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22111_zps3a70155b.jpg)
114HLW Full frame next. The half frame was much easier to work on. I had to remove the left side plate first and tap out the right. These frames are easily damaged if you are not careful.
 (http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22121_zpsecbcd99b.jpg)
I went a little different with the spring on this one. The Half frame spring was rubbing the spool, I had to take it back apart and grind the spring down a little. I kept this one away from the spool. The half frame has a 4 stack of .140 CF's with stock washers. This one has a 5 stack of .120 CF's with Lee's washers and the Belleville on top. When I went to screw down the Bridge, There wasn't enough room in the plate. I had to take the last hex drag out, put in another of Lee's .47 washers and then the Belleville.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22131_zps5a1db6ea.jpg)
Two Down, One to go. You were right about the ss springs Sal, A lot springier! ;D More clickety clack action!
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22141_zps8f8fc5d5.jpg)
The 9/0 is a little dirtier than I like. I got it dogged, but the cleanup is taking me too long. I'll put it together tonight. The sun is coming up. I found an excellent bearing cleaner. Hoppe's no. 9. I put the bearings in the bottle with just a little bit of cleaner, shook them around for a few minutes and they came out like new!
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22151_zps79998299.jpg)
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: BMITCH on January 05, 2014, 08:03:54 PM
Nice work Daron ;) those look really hard core! Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: LTM on January 05, 2014, 08:04:18 PM
Daron your having too much fun!

Well, I've plenty of Hoppe's #9 bore solvent. And it hasnt damaged any of my ss pistols, so I guess its safe for SOME of my bearings. The reason I say some is that Ive noticed a black colored race in some of my bearings and I dont know what material its made of. Looks like I'll read the labe again and see whats up. I know about those long nites and your trying to get to bed before you hear the chirping of the birds in the early morning. Take care man!

Leo
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: LTM on January 05, 2014, 08:08:04 PM
Daron,

In the last picture; what are those bright lime green bands near the Hoppes bottle, and what is that tool directly behind the bottles that looks like an e-cigarette? Also, what do you use the Sharpie permanent markers for?

Thanx,

Leo
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 05, 2014, 08:10:47 PM
Right you are Leo. I'm quitting smoking and the E-cig is the way to go. ;D
The green bands are a Necklace for the E-cig.
I use the sharpie for marking the rings on the inside so I don't mix them up, and for labeling the reel when it goes in the collection(in a file cabinet) in a Crown Royal bag.
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 05, 2014, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: BMITCH on January 05, 2014, 08:03:54 PM
Nice work Daron ;) those look really hard core! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Bob. I'll probably go back and tap the other holes in the frame later on. I see what you mean now about the holes in the plates, but not in the rings or frame. The half frame has the Phillips screws already tapped in the frame. I like that setup a lot better.
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: Dominick on January 05, 2014, 11:19:52 PM
That's what I call producing. Dominick
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: alantani on January 05, 2014, 11:22:29 PM
nice work!  i will get the handle grips into the mail this evening.
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: TomT on January 05, 2014, 11:45:28 PM
Daron,
Good work!!   I am going to do a 114h with BP's hex gears.  I made the washers with 1.4mm following your posts--I even made an extra set.  I am not ready to install everything yet, but I put the hex washers with stock round washers and with just laying them in there, it looks like I could not use more than a 4 stack.  It sounds like you did not have clearance problems with this one--am I correct??  Maybe if I put them together and compressed them down for a day or two, they might fit?  What do you think?
TomT
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: saltydog on January 06, 2014, 01:08:54 AM
Very nice work now for hex gears for the 12/0 thru 16/0 that would be fun.
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 06, 2014, 03:26:08 AM
Quote from: TomT on January 05, 2014, 11:45:28 PM
Daron,
Good work!!   I am going to do a 114h with BP's hex gears.  I made the washers with 1.4mm following your posts--I even made an extra set.  I am not ready to install everything yet, but I put the hex washers with stock round washers and with just laying them in there, it looks like I could not use more than a 4 stack.  It sounds like you did not have clearance problems with this one--am I correct??  Maybe if I put them together and compressed them down for a day or two, they might fit?  What do you think?
TomT
Tom, The 5 stack was .120 CF's and Lee's washers which are thinner than stock. I did get a 5 stack in the 9/0 Using Lee's .47 washers and .140 CF drags. Stock washers are about .65, Lee's are .47. I'm just getting crazy on this. The four stack with .140 CF's and stock washers will generate 50 lbs plus. That is all you need.
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 06, 2014, 03:38:03 AM
Wrapping up with the 9/0 this evening.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22171_zps72656e19.jpg)
I like this spring placement much Better.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22181_zps9cab6e4b.jpg)
Another Success! I'll be using these plates for Dom and Tom's Frame I am patiently waiting for.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22191_zps9f5f66e7.jpg)
Looks like the wait is about over! Dom says he's expecting them next week! Hot Damn!! ;D
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: Bryan Young on January 06, 2014, 05:47:23 AM
Sweet...I can't wait to hear the shark stories and shark pics.
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: erikpowell on January 06, 2014, 06:45:56 AM
Nice Daron!  I'm also patiently waiting for Dam & Alan's frame for my new 9/0  ;)
...is that a ss gear sleeve I see there  ???
and what did you use the red thread lock for?

p.s- i'm sending your pic to a friend of mine over in Loveland.. Miller/Coors rep.. they are surveying customers about returning to the old school High Life label  ;D ;D  ... how would you like to be heard?
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 06, 2014, 04:52:08 PM
Yes Eric,
ss sleeve, yoke, dogs, springs and BP's ss gears. The threadlock is for Alan's handle screw when I attach it to the Keta Krank. Yea, I like the High Life. I like to mix it up on my beers, but I like to keep it old school once in a while with the Miller. I'm down with the old Label.
Title: Re: Triple double dog dare ya!
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 08, 2014, 05:36:50 PM
If anybody has some 114H plates they want to trade for some parts. I have brand new gear sets and sleeves.