I got an Accurate Boss Magnum 870 from a friend. Looks like an impressive reel, but it doesn't work properly. Haven't teared it apart yet. Never opened an Accurate reel before, so thisone will be the first. My first notice is that the lever drag seems all loose, you can push the button up and down way to easy. If you set it on freespool its like the spool is on at least strike. You can't move the spool with your hand. You can crank and it reels like normal. Their cast control ? Should it work like on other reels ? This doesn't seem to move in or out when I try to adjust it.
Any ideas before I even start ?
Thanks in advance !
Hmm... if memory serves, there is a hexagonal protrusion extending from the sideplate upon which the opposing component of the cam resides. This can become worn or ruined, rendering the lever and cam inoperable.
Take that with a pinch of salt though, since i don't know for sure and its hard to diagnose without reel or pictures.
Was this privately imported, or is thrre any help to be had from CWC? Stefan, i think his name is?
(on second thought, never mind, considering your earlier reflection on the usefulness of distributors... the best help to be had is probably here...)
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Thanks for the answer. Don't understand everything you wrote, but I think I can figure out what you mean. Still tries to refresh my old school english wit those technical words :)
I don't know if its an import reel or bought here in Sweden ?. Don't know which the swedish distributor is, but know a couple of stores sells them. Don't think its CWC, (and yes, his name i Stefan ) they have their own reels BFT Black Thunder (Omoto ? ) .
I didn't mean that every distributor is not helpfull, but some of them are not very serviceminded.
(...sexkantiga utsticket från gaveln på drivsidan på vilken spaken o det där sitter kan nötas ut och slutar funka, bara.)
Where do you live?
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Try turning the cast control to less. The more "less" the better.
Hi Robert !
Yes, I did put in some of the words in a translator to get what you mean, so now I understand.
I live a couple of miles outside Helsingborg. And you ? Live in Sweden or Denmark ?
Hi Bryan !
I tried to turn the cast control, but it seems like nothing happens ? Isn't the function like on other reels ? When you move it in, you tighten the spool to avoid overrun ? You can't se if thisone goes in or out.
Will open it up tomorrow. I don't know why, but I get respect just looking at it. But it can't be worse than open other reels or..... ? :)
Tried to open up the schematic on Accurates homepage, but it didn't work for me.
Did you also reduce the drag to less?
Quote from: Drisse on January 11, 2014, 01:46:02 AM
Hi Bryan !
I tried to turn the cast control, but it seems like nothing happens ? Isn't the function like on other reels ? When you move it in, you tighten the spool to avoid overrun ? You can't se if thisone goes in or out.
The cast control on an Accurate isn't like any other reel that I know of. When you tighten the knob it engages the drag slightly to control the spool. If you have it screwed all the way down, that is your problem. Back it off and see what happens.
The knob is laser etched that says more and less with arrow direction. Turn it in the less direction until it cannot turn anymore.
Ok, Thanks ! Will have a look at it when I get home from work.
Yes Bryan, I had the drag on less. I screwed the cast control towards less many, many times, but can't see that anything happens ? But it feels like it it is something with the castcontrol. I just loosened the right sideplate screws and then I could move the spool with my thumbs. There was drag, but I could move it. If I tighten the sideplate screws its like full drag again even with the drag on less.
I'll post again when I've opened it.
Other than that, its possible that the pressure plate or two could be froze on the spool shaft by rust. I've seen that on 3 accurates that I have worked on.
BTW, for those who may think that SS doesn't rust, it does.
Had a look at the reel this evening. Took a wihle to get the cast control of the reel...... The ears on the plastic locking ring was stuck between the cast control screw and reel. Had to rip the plastic ring apart. Got the cast control off and I guess that the screw behind it shouldn't be that far in, since the cast control knob couldn't reach it.
I thought those screws were long enough it never lose contact with the cover.
I don't know how this have hapened ? When I rotated the cast control knob and looked behind the bearing, nothing rotated. When I got the cast control knob off and rotated the cast control screw with a tool, it rotated behind the bearing. When I install the cast control screw again, shall it then align with the hole ? How can I avoid this to happen again ? Need to wait untill I get an plastic clip and mount everything again.
Will clean everything up and se if the reel works nice now.
Need to order the "cast control frame knob clip B-3628". The o-ring also need to be replaced. Will have a look and see if its a standard size or special measure. Have to find out if there's a nordic distributor. If so, can they supply spareparts ?
Cleaned up the left side of the reel and started to rebuild. Put the cast control screw back. Twisted it in so it aligned with the sideplate. Then on with the cast control knob. Rotated the knob to more. After a wihle, the knob loose contact with the screw and I cant get the screw back to less ? Both the screw and the knob looks ok I think. Just wondering If the knob should be bent like that or it shold be flat ? Any ideas ?
Found a picture where the knob is flat with no bent "ears" . I guess it the same on all models ? Wonder why the person bent that knob ?
Hi folks !
Anyone who knows if it possible to get Accurate parts elsewhere than from Accurate ? They don't seem to quick to answer on emails. Is there any shops that provides their parts ? About the spoolbearing I need. Is it possible to find that measurment elswhere (from Alans list: left and right spool - 0.187 x 0.5 x 0.195 inch ) ? Seems like an odd measurment to me. Saw som cheap ones on ebay, but doubt about the quality.
Try Boca Bearings. I think they may ship international.
http://www.bocabearings.com/bearing-inventory/Radial-Bearings/1000/0-1875x0-5000x0-1960-SR3ZZ5
Thanks alot for the advice conchydong !
I would try Dawn at SmoothDrag.com. She sends drags overseas often, and I'm sure she would also send bearings, handles,...
Got my new bearings and the plastic locking clip for the cast control knob. Thanks alot Bryan :)
Started to rebuild the last things. Thought it should be an easy job..... But I have some trouble to get the lever arm to work properly ? Sometimes I get it to run up and down nice and easy, but any small adjustment on the tension cam, the lever arm can't be moved or is really hard to move ? And any small adjustment makes almost max drag.
Took it apart and rebuild it a couple of times with the same result. Moved the cast control to less, and then adjusted it to more, but no difference.
Any advices, or I've done some rookie misstake on thisone :)
I have the same issues with the reels I service. If you take out the cam in the lever assembly, you will see a sharp jump to engage the drag. Often, there is a sharp corner in the cam from free spool to engaging the drag. I take a fine micro-file and round off that corner making the engagement easer and smoother.
Thanks Bryan !
Will give it a try this evening.
Did as you said Bryan. Now the lever arm works a bit easier, but there's still something wrong with the drag ? If I just adjust the tension knob a little bit its still like max drag ? Can't figure out what I've done wrong.
And the spool was stuck when I got my friends reel, so I couldn't test it Before I took it apart. So I don't know how a proper Accurate 870 should work.
Does the pressure plate slide easily on the spool shaft?
How about the spool on the bearings?
Will check your other advices. But I don't think it should be a problem. The parts looks ok and are nice and clean. What do you mean with the spool on the bearings ? It freespools nice and easy.
How do you setup the castcontrol on an Accurate ? This reel is used for pirks with the weight 3-600 gram.
there is a small black plastic retaining clip that has to be removed before you remove the cap. it you force it, you get this result.
Alan, the castcontrol knob was bent when I got the reel and the "ears" on the plasticclip was jammed down between the sideplate and the knob ??? . So the knob was stuck. Had to rip of the plasticclip. Now the reel is complete with new bearings, new plasticclip on the castcontrol that goes on and off as it should.
But I still don't get the reel to work properly. Any small adjustment on the tension knob is like full strike and you have to force the lever arm.
that's a function of the cam. it's typical for these older accurates. there are no bellevilles to cushion the load as you throw the lever forward, plus the cam has such a big initial jump that you jump to strike as soon as pass that uphill portion of the cam. there is a big initial jump, then a slow progression after that.
I'll give it one more rebuild, just to se if I can get it right. As it is now doesn't feel right. Thats all I can do. Never held an Accurate in my hand before and doesn't know anyone who owns one so I can compare or have a look.
The reel works now, but not as proper as I thought it should.