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Title: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on January 18, 2014, 06:46:30 AM
Me  and friend of mine both have Olympic Dolphin 615 reel (gear ration 3.14:1)
My friend's reel is Ok, my reel has problem with the star drag.
I reassembled the reel and found out the graphite washers were completely gone, moreover, the main gear totally rusted with the bridge. I also could not take out the washers.
I ordered used Dolphin's side plates for repair. The sides came to me today.
The graphite washers also gone but I was lucky to take all of them out.
Could you tell me, please, what kind of washers (graphite or carbon) I can use to replace old ones?
Thank you.
(http://s017.radikal.ru/i437/1401/31/12e5b858f740.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/fp/586798694f454fccac3c5bc3e713b256)

Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 18, 2014, 07:39:59 AM
Wow Timur! That's a tough one. Never heard of an Olympic Dolphin. Those sure look like Penn parts to me. Take some measurements of the drags and we can probably find them. ;)
You can also just buy some carbon fiber sheet and make your own. Wallace has some for sale.
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: alantani on January 18, 2014, 08:01:57 AM
if you can carefully measure the inside diameter, outside diameter and thickness of the drag washer, we can find or cut something to match. 
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on January 18, 2014, 08:58:28 AM
The inside diameter is 1,2 centimeters, outside-2centimeters.
Regarding the thickness-not too thick ( i dont have appropriate equipment at home)
I think that i will order couple of carbon washers (cut the diameter if needed) for the Penn114H to replace...
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 18, 2014, 07:05:29 PM
If you buy sheets to cut your own Timur, Make sure you get the correct thickness or they won't fit in the gear when you stack them up. They need to measured with a micrometer. Stock 114H HT-100 drags are 1.30mm.
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on January 19, 2014, 01:16:13 AM
Noted and thank you. The reel's design will not allow to overthick the diametr of the washers.
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: alantani on January 19, 2014, 02:24:00 AM
here is a list for reference.  http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=21.0
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on January 19, 2014, 02:26:32 AM
Auto CARBON FIBER VINYL film -can i use it or it is not the carbon material?
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Ron Jones on January 19, 2014, 03:34:03 AM
That is not the correct material. Smoothdrag should be able to sort you out.
Ron
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on January 19, 2014, 04:25:39 AM
Are you sure those washers weren't leather? And what's size reel would you compare the dolphin to?
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Ron Jones on January 19, 2014, 05:02:33 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dolphin-615-Olympic-Saltwater-Fishing-Reel-Very-Good-Condition-/221355598059

Looks about the size of a 3/0 from what I can tell.
Ron
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on January 19, 2014, 06:44:01 AM
With a help of the anti-rust stuff and little hammer I managed to separate the main gear from the bridge.
My oh my...
(http://i047.radikal.ru/1401/ad/fb256a5fc5d9.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/fp/427534acb19348a586dd3b39fff95c2e)
Same reels but different plates. Original is from the right and it thicker then the left partner.
Now, will look for the carbon to make washers.
(http://s019.radikal.ru/i625/1401/60/894b85ed015a.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/fp/510f537c29ec401a9f2d8e3aea6b9ff8)
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 19, 2014, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: coralsea on January 19, 2014, 01:16:13 AM
Noted and thank you. The reel's design will not allow to overthick the diametr of the washers.
Not the diameter Timur, the thickness.
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on January 19, 2014, 11:01:43 PM
Yes, thickness. Thank you.
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on February 08, 2014, 06:57:25 AM
Its done.
I took used drag washers from the Penn 113 4/0.
I made bigger holes in them so the washers could be easily placed on the bridge.
The reel is fully operational.
One more to my collection-)))
(http://s020.radikal.ru/i720/1402/56/135d8d28e905.jpg) (http://www.radikal.ru)
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Alto Mare on February 08, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
I had that reel a while back, it is a nice reel, the chromed parts always stayed good on mine.
If I remember correctly, I believe it uses the #6-60 washers, same as the Squidder. The ID does have to be enlarged just a little, but the OD should be the same.
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: alantani on February 08, 2014, 07:13:48 PM
well done!
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 08, 2014, 08:56:13 PM
Good Job! Coral Sea. You realize you have made the Coveted Photo of the Month Award! :o
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: alantani on February 08, 2014, 09:23:05 PM
one of the things i like to recognize is "first time" effort.  and sometimes things don't work out.  remember our buddy, here?

http://youtu.be/yjgvMRlpqUY
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 08, 2014, 09:34:23 PM
Yes I do! :D Not only are you a Gentleman and a Scholar. You are our Mentor as well. ;D
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on February 09, 2014, 01:10:55 AM
Quote from: alantani on February 08, 2014, 09:23:05 PM
one of the things i like to recognize is "first time" effort.  and sometimes things don't work out.  remember our buddy, here?
Someone help me to stop from laughing-)))
I am under my chair-)))
Awesome...
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on February 09, 2014, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 08, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
I had that reel a while back, it is a nice reel, the chromed parts always stayed good on mine.
If I remember correctly, I believe it uses the #6-60 washers, same as the Squidder. The ID does have to be enlarged just a little, but the OD should be the same.
Thank you a lot for that info...
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on February 09, 2014, 01:14:03 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 08, 2014, 08:56:13 PM
Good Job! Coral Sea. You realize you have made the Coveted Photo of the Month Award! :o
No, what is the award?
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 09, 2014, 01:50:30 AM
Your picture in photo of the month
scroll to the bottom
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=1059.345
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on February 09, 2014, 02:25:34 AM
ahhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrr ::)
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: alantani on February 09, 2014, 07:08:32 AM
send me your address!  ;D
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 09, 2014, 07:13:33 AM
Now you are really gong to get an award! Congratulations! ;)
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on February 09, 2014, 11:14:13 AM
Quote from: alantani on February 09, 2014, 07:08:32 AM
send me your address!  ;D
sent.. i need Screwdriver Tool for the Penn 114H and Penn 113 4/0. pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeeee ;D
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on February 10, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
I decided to go further und upgrade used Penn's drag washers.
I chose fiber-glass plastic as the new material ( its even hard to drill)
Pure drag figures were just tremendous for that type of reel-30LB (and even more)
So...fiber-glass plastic rules?
(http://s51.radikal.ru/i131/1402/84/f6c0cfd90a8a.jpg) (http://www.radikal.ru)
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Irish Jigger on February 10, 2014, 01:04:47 PM
This should be interesting.
No need for Cals grease I imagine ???
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 10, 2014, 08:20:02 PM
I can see a big hunk of melted plastic in your future. ;)
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: alantani on February 10, 2014, 11:49:30 PM
so here is the level of performance that i recommend.  for me, any drag system needs to pass this test.  put the reel on the rod, run the line through the guides, put the rod in a holder and tie the line off to a container with the same weight as your desired drag setting.  if you are going to use 50 pound test and want a 30% drag setting of 15 pounds, use a bucket with 15 pounds of lead in it.  tighten the drag and reel up the bucket up to the rod tip.  now adjust the drag until the bucket falls by one foot every 5 seconds.  the drag has to be perfectly smooth.  THAT is the level of performance that i look for. 
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on February 11, 2014, 12:24:03 AM
Ok, will do it later...( i dont have the rods at home now).
I need the backet fall just smooth...right?
I dont quite understand how the backet would STOP every 5 sec. without adjusting the drag every 5 sec...
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: alantani on February 11, 2014, 12:32:40 AM
that's it!
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Ron Jones on February 11, 2014, 04:05:17 AM
Coralsea,
You adjust the drag so that it falls 1 foot every 5 seconds continously. If your rod tip is 3 meters off the ground then it should take your bucket 45 seconds to hit the floor. During that 45 seconds it should not jerk, stop and start or change speeds. It needs to start and fall perfectly smooth.
Ron
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on February 11, 2014, 04:31:40 AM
Got it, thanks. I"ll do it at home with the short rod. Anyway the fall must be smooth....I noted...
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: alantani on February 11, 2014, 07:44:26 AM
oops, thanks for clarifying that.
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: Ken_D on February 11, 2014, 05:05:30 PM
Aside: A web site in Scandinavia that has expired now, had almost a full collection of Olympic reels.
scandicfishing.com   Perhaps Mooki, Killerbug or Dr. Rob could speack to the old owner, and see if the collection is still out there, or on a server, that could be exported to an active site.
There were 187 Olympic drawings on the page.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060412175648/http://www.scandicfishing.com/schematics_index.htm
.
Title: Re: Olympic Dolphin 615
Post by: coralsea on December 12, 2014, 03:12:37 PM
In conclusion:
I performed a simple test to see the maximum possible drag for that reel.
The reel holds 20LB weight (in the air) with no problem.
One cannot say , of course, about the smooth drag with new drag washers due to the limited drag washers set and material structure ( not carbon  material).
But I satisfied with the result and would like to express my gratitude to this Site for the ocean of useful info in reel's repairs.