I purchased a squidder gear sleeve from pennparts and the star wheel is impossible to thread on. The threads look clean and the star goes on other sleeves but the one I have it seems that it is too tight.
Should I try another star wheel or is there something else wrong?
Thanks everyone.
Try a different star, sounds like a fine threaded sleeve
the 140 gear sleeves should all be fine. hoyt had a problem with the 505's. i think i screwed up and have to get back to him. i talked the owner of the machine shop that made them about an hour ago. we are going to try to sort this out. tell me the number on your star.
Uh Oh!
I hope I don't run into this problem on My Surfmaster 200. :o
in the past, i've just had to chase the threads and it always worked. that's what i recommended with hoyt, but his fine thread 505 gear sleeve was the first one of a new batch. the gear sleeves out now are old inventory, so there should not be a problem. of course, that's what i said last time...... :-[
Well, I'll do some chasin' this weekend and let you know how it works out. ;D
I plan to only work on two different reels, a 14/0 and a Surfmaster 200.
David and Goliath! ;D
Alan,
I have the 10-140 star.
The regular star for the squidders with the indentation to go over the housing.
I tried the 140 star on a jigmaster sleeve and it went on fine. It also went on fine with the original sleeve.
I guess I will try another star this weekend when I see my friend who has a bunch.
I will let you know.
Alan,
I tried another star and it didn't work either.
I took everthing apart and put the star on the sleeve with a bit of force.
I carved out the thread in the star a bit deeper with the stainless sleeve and removed all the brass shaving and put it all back together.
It works fine now.
I don't know if it was the threading on the sleeves cut to an extremely tight tolerance but I was able to do it.
Ahh. The old "if it don't fit, Force it method" ;D
Stainless steel will always be a nice tap for brass. Glad you got it sorted out.
Ron
Yeah...I called Alan on that deal and he started saying "get a crescent wrench" and I was going no, man that ain't right........ He even sent me some other drag stars and same thing with those. Sooo....out comes the crescent wrench and it only seemed to be the first couple of threads. Those threads cleared up before the gear sleeve popped through the other side of the star.
I figure those last 2 turns of thread got some galling...no biggie but it was a little confusing at the time and Alan stood by his product to my complete satisfaction. ;D
I also heard of the problem with the clamp Hoyt. I emailed Tiburon and they sent me one free when I told them I bought it from Alan Tani Himself! It was on a surfmaster 200. Fits perfect now! ;D
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22231_zpsddf84251.jpg)
The 10-66 star is for the coarse threaded sleeve on the 500 and the 10-505 is for the fine threaded sleeve on the 505's. That star is a little larger than the 10-66.
Is that correct?
Didn't have a 10-66 to try, so couldn't tell you. But like I said it was only the top 2 threads that seem to be effected. After you crammed a 10-505 past the galled threads any 505 would fit after that. Even one of those aluminum e-bay goodies. Leastwise that's how it worked for me.
(//)
yeah, better post the explanation here as well.
so, the threads are cut somehow, don't know how, but they are all the same. apparently, the notch on top is cut last. i am told that the "bit" used to cut that notch was dull, so what it did was to fold down that first thread rather than cut cleanly through. that's why the first thread was jacked up. a little aggravating to say the least. now, i knew that the threads were a little tight on the last run, but running the star all the way down and then back up took care of that problem. i was thinking that monkeying around in the same manner would take care of the problem. clearly it was different. anyway, the batch is fixed and i will send you a new one. sorry for the hassle. :-\
I'll put the crescent wrench to my coarse thread sleeve and see if I can get a star to thread on too...
I'm having the same issue with that top thread.. haven't been able to get the star to catch the first thread..
I'm trying 2 different 10-60's and a 10-66. None will go.
I was lucky on this one. ;)
Quote from: erikpowell on February 01, 2014, 10:54:02 PM
I'll put the crescent wrench to my coarse thread sleeve and see if I can get a star to thread on too...
I'm having the same issue with that top thread.. haven't been able to get the star to catch the first thread..
I'm trying 2 different 10-60's and a 10-66. None will go.
wierd. there was never a problem with the squidder sleeves. can you take a careful look a the topmost thread and see if it has the proper spacing?
alan, yeah, the sleeves i have that the star works on seem to have a tiny "starter" thread that this one doesn't have....
HOWEVER, after holding the sleeve in a crescent wrench and forcing the star down ( i had to wrap a towel around it)
i was able to get it to go... it was HARD ... but it finally threaded on... after a few back & forths it seems the s.s sleeve just
tapped some new threads into the star... brushed out all the brass shavings and BOOM... she's set....spins right on now 8)
admittedly it was a little scary how hard I had to torque that star down, but I knew it was on straight so I kept going..
we're all set now, and that 10-66 star works fine on all the other sleeves too. no damage..
I still have that one sleeve that bulges at the base though... did some more filing, and I got the gear down another ⅛ inch, just right above the shoulder where the sleeve goes back to full round, but it won't go all the way down, and won't spin it's so tight.
i may have to send that one back to ya. cool?
naw, keep it. i'll send you a new one. send me a pm. you're going to have to remind me of you address and which part i'm shipping. getting stacked up again.
roger that bosso
To all......
Mr, Alan Tani went 200 percent out of his way to make this gear sleeve thread issue right by me. I almost feel guilty accepting what he did to appease my simple twenty dollar need. Honor....a rare thing indeed.
Thank you,
Hoyt
no problem. it's wierd how these things happen sometimes. what i really should start doing is to sell these as a set with stainless steel stars.
Quote from: alantani on February 12, 2014, 02:23:03 AM
stainless steel stars.
Yes! Stainless steel stars, oversized please!
the stock stars are $4-5. new ones would likely be twice that...... :-\
Has the potential for "thread galling" been considered if sleeve and larger star are both stainless steel?
yes, so one would be 304 stainelss and the other would be 308, 316 or 416. that should be ok.
Quote from: alantani on February 02, 2014, 01:04:50 AM
Quote from: erikpowell on February 01, 2014, 10:54:02 PM
I'll put the crescent wrench to my coarse thread sleeve and see if I can get a star to thread on too...
I'm having the same issue with that top thread.. haven't been able to get the star to catch the first thread..
I'm trying 2 different 10-60's and a 10-66. None will go.
wierd. there was never a problem with the squidder sleeves. can you take a careful look a the topmost thread and see if it has the proper spacing?
Bula Alan, the sleeve I had that problem with wasn't a squidder, it was jig master sleeve with the first thread folded down as you described.
... just an FYI......
ah, ok, got it. so you need another stainless steel fine thread jigmaster gear sleeve, right? that i can send out. also, the reel seat arrived in today's mail. i will get it sent out. i will also include some stainless steel screws of different lengths.
Quote from: Caranx on February 13, 2014, 04:58:56 AM
I did the same thing with my 98-60 SS sleeve and it worked. It does feel a little scary in the beginning.
I just put a dab of grease on the threads then cranked it on. Passed it back and forth a couple times, cleaned both threads and it was good to go. Then I used another star and ran it through with ease.
Just did the same thing tonight on my 500s. I have a 10-60 star on it, went on about 2 turns and got tight. Lubed it up and worked my way down. No problems.