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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Topshot on January 26, 2014, 03:46:25 PM

Title: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Topshot on January 26, 2014, 03:46:25 PM
Does anybody know what the thread size the gear sleeve for a 114h and a 115 is? I working on some custom drag stars
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Keta on January 26, 2014, 03:58:44 PM
Quote from: Topshot on January 26, 2014, 03:46:25 PM
Does anybody know what the thread size the gear sleeve for a 114h and a 115 is? I working on some custom drag stars

I don't remember the dimensions but they are an odd ball buttress thread.
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Topshot on January 26, 2014, 04:04:39 PM
Have you made drag stars before??
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Keta on January 26, 2014, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: Topshot on January 26, 2014, 04:04:39 PM
Have you made drag stars before??

I was unable to find the right taps.  I have drawings but haven't cut any.
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Topshot on January 26, 2014, 04:10:59 PM
Ahh I see. I found these on ebay but they only make them for 113h I wanted to put on my my 6/0 and 9/0
http://m.ebay.com/itm/360651744451?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Cone on January 26, 2014, 04:14:14 PM
I would stay away from aluminum stars. They will strip and fail. Bob
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Alto Mare on January 26, 2014, 04:23:04 PM
I'm glad you couldn't find any ;D.
They will strip on the 4/0 as well and probably on the jigmaster.... if you add more drag numbers.
Mine stripped, but they weren't the same exact ones. I do not like aluminum stars, no matter how nice they look.
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Topshot on January 26, 2014, 04:51:24 PM
We'll that just saved me $18 lol. Thanks for the warning guys. I guess good old penn stars it is
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 26, 2014, 06:51:52 PM
I would like mine out of Titanium. ;D
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: DaBigOno on January 26, 2014, 06:54:59 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 26, 2014, 06:51:52 PM
I would like mine out of Titanium. ;D

I would like Stainless Steel to match the handles.
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Keta on January 26, 2014, 09:46:24 PM
I will try to locate the taps in the future, I want larger OD SS stars for my reels.
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: harryk3616 on January 26, 2014, 10:02:17 PM
the fine thread on the jigmaster is     .406 x 36  buttress thread, if any help, got that info from penn awhile ago.
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: alantani on January 27, 2014, 03:27:41 AM
poor hoyt got the very first piece from a new order of fine thread jigmaster gear sleeves.  they were cut too large.  the guy that owns the machine shop had one of his temporary (now ex-) employees doing the work.  they cannot be re-threaded, so they will either have to be discarded or new stars will have to be cut.  he is checking on the cost of new stars. if it is cost effective to make new stars (as opposed to just throwing the bad gear sleeves away) then you may see a new run of stainless steel stars out very soon. 
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: BMITCH on January 27, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
Quote from: Keta on January 26, 2014, 09:46:24 PM
I will try to locate the taps in the future, I want larger OD SS stars for my reels.


;D ;D  ;D. Me too!
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Irish Jigger on January 27, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
Quote from: alantani on January 27, 2014, 03:27:41 AM
poor hoyt got the very first piece from a new order of fine thread jigmaster gear sleeves.  they were cut too large.  the guy that owns the machine shop had one of his temporary (now ex-) employees doing the work.  they cannot be re-threaded, so they will either have to be discarded or new stars will have to be cut.  he is checking on the cost of new stars. if it is cost effective to make new stars (as opposed to just throwing the bad gear sleeves away) then you may see a new run of stainless steel stars out very soon. 

Do you envisage any "thread galling" issues when using stainless steel screwed parts together?
Will a molybdenum or graphite based lubricant be required?
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: DaBigOno on January 28, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: Keta on January 26, 2014, 09:46:24 PM
I will try to locate the taps in the future, I want larger OD SS stars for my reels.

Lee, do you have any drawings for this?  I'm really interested in some over-sized outer diameter stainless steel stars that will match up with AlanT's SS sleeves.
Title: Re: Gear sleeve thread size
Post by: Keta on January 28, 2014, 11:39:04 PM
Yes I drew them up before looking for the tap, here's one of them.  If anyone wants the drawing I can e-mail it in .dxf format.

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/star_zps16015f14.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/star_zps16015f14.jpg.html)