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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: LucasGeneau on January 27, 2014, 06:45:52 PM

Title: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: LucasGeneau on January 27, 2014, 06:45:52 PM
Hi alan, i ve recently bought a penn 309 for shark fishing from shore. I tooked the level wind sistem out because i cast with it. I spooled it with 350yrs of 60pound test braid and 50yrs of 60 test mono topshot. Will it work for large sharks?. Am i going to get spooled?
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 27, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: LucasGeneau on January 27, 2014, 06:52:06 PM
Ok thank you a lot what rod you recomendó?
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Ron Jones on January 27, 2014, 06:53:09 PM
To quote a famous movie "Your gonna need a bigger boat."
Their are several large shark fishermen here that will tell you more, but as good of a reel as a 309 is, it is not up to the challenge of a "large" shark. I've caught 50-75 pound Makos on reels the size of your 309. Maybe your idea of large and others on here are different.

Love that reel, by the way.
Ron
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 27, 2014, 06:55:56 PM
The working drag range of a 309 is 10lbs. Any more than that and you will probably damage the reel.
I say 114H at the minimum. I consider large, anything over 100lbs. That's big enough to put a hurtin' on you.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: LucasGeneau on January 27, 2014, 07:07:01 PM
Yeah you are right i have a 4/0 size reel. What line you recomend me for spooling hit?
The reel of the photo is a mixture between a long beach and a senator.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 27, 2014, 08:05:23 PM
50 or 60lb should be good on that reel. back it with braid if you want capacity. I personally prefer the biggest of senators. Call it Overkill, but that's how I do it. ;) The smaller reel is a 6/0. The 14/0 on the stand spooled with 130lb mono for abrasion resistance.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22031_zpsd1cb1d71.jpg)
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Dynamo on January 27, 2014, 08:34:12 PM
Both reels should be fine for most sharks up to the 6 foot range. If you're serious about sharking, I'd advise a 6/0 or 9/0 senator. If you're serious about hunting for monsters, then you will need a 130 class reel. What do you consider "large"?
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: saltydog on January 27, 2014, 09:46:09 PM
10 + footers in the 500 to 1000# range and a 309 is a little small. You can still catch sharks but of the smaller sort.

Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: LucasGeneau on January 28, 2014, 12:41:33 AM
wow that are reels man! Where i get one of those jaja
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Tightlines667 on January 28, 2014, 12:49:13 AM
Quote from: LucasGeneau on January 28, 2014, 12:41:33 AM
wow that are reels man! Where i get one of those jaja

I can hook you up.  Still have 2 refurbished 14/0s available...PM me if your interested. 

Pics are here...

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=9505.15
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: LucasGeneau on January 28, 2014, 12:52:12 AM
how much for the chepeast?
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 28, 2014, 12:57:09 AM
This guy knows what he's talking about Lucas! That's where the one in the picture came from. ;)
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Tightlines667 on January 28, 2014, 12:59:37 AM
My prices are based on my costs (purchase, parts, supplies, and the aprox 5hrs time) I put into each reel.  The 14/0s typically go for $380-$400 each.  You can find old beat up reels in need of parts for $240-$320 range (occasionally avail on FeeBay).  I'm asking $400 including new 130lb OPI mono, and shipping to US for the second reel I've got posted.  I can drop the price a bit if you don't want line.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: LucasGeneau on January 28, 2014, 01:03:37 AM
diu have a smaller reel for sale because 14/0 are overkilling for the fish here maybe a 6/0 or a9/0 or a daiwa
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Tightlines667 on January 28, 2014, 01:19:28 AM
I have some 'hotrodded' 4 and 6/0s for sale but they may be a bit pricy for what you are looking to spend (range from $340-$450).  Your best bet is prob to buy used on EBay or locally, and use the service tutorials here to service it before fishing.  Check out the for sale section and you might find something else available here that will fill your needs too.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 28, 2014, 09:16:21 AM
Topshot has some for sale. A 600H would be perfect for what you are looking for.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: CapeFish on January 28, 2014, 09:21:11 AM
I can point you to a website where there are plenty of photos of 200kg+ sharks and rays way over that caught on Torium/Trinidad 30s, but they get spooled with over 700m line , but going smaller than that is asking for serious trouble. If you are going to use a kayak to get your bait out you can basically go as big a reel you feel comfortable with, but chances are that even on a big reel you can run into trouble.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 28, 2014, 11:33:31 AM
Well said, Some fish just aren't meant to be caught and anything can happen. ;)
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: LucasGeneau on January 28, 2014, 02:12:09 PM
Thanks to everyone  for the info i do apreciate it. I saw the reels of topshot they are cheap and good but i dont trust ebay because i had a bad experince.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 28, 2014, 05:51:10 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: LucasGeneau on January 28, 2014, 06:28:02 PM
Nice bait i can only imagine what you use for chum jaja
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: CapeFish on January 29, 2014, 08:26:29 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 28, 2014, 11:33:31 AM
Well said, Some fish just aren't meant to be caught and anything can happen. ;)

I am a firm believer though that lighter tackle gets more pulls and it helps to build confidence to fish with manageable tackle. Yes sometimes you will get a hiding, but having fish on teaches you how to use the drag, when to let the fish run, how much pressure you can put on and that you can actually pull pretty big fish if your knots, end gear and reel is in good nick. If you are fortunate enough to live in an area where the fish are thick, then I suppose it won't make such a big difference, but if they are few and far between then I will hedge my bets on a lighter rig.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: pcde123 on February 01, 2014, 04:17:22 PM
if you were on a boat or a kayak, that could work, but  the ammount of line you have on your reel is what most sharkfisherman would consider their bait deploying distance, a 309 will not break down or buckle under pressure, its just that there is not enough line, maybe if your off a pier and you lower your main line  to 40lb braid and 50 lb mono, honestly with only 10lbs of drag, you will only need 40 lb braid
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 01, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
A reel with only 10 lb drag capabilities is not a shark reel. It will break and buckle and at the minimum you will lose all your line. If you want to put 50lb line on a 10lb reel. You are going to lose it!
Lets face the facts here. A 309 is not a Shark reel.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: saltydog on February 01, 2014, 10:35:29 PM
Shark Hunter is right a 309 is not a shark reel and most 5+ footers will break your levelwind sooner or later, face it buy a 40 to 50 dollar 6/0 and use it you will be better off and at least have a chance. Now I do a lot of light line fishing for sharks but levelwinds just don't cut it, I have a diawa 20 shv that I use 30# braid on and it catches plenty of good size sharks in the 6 to 8 foot range and haven't been spooled but twice with it. A jigmaster 500 with 30# mono works good too.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 01, 2014, 10:48:28 PM
The Dog is a much more experienced Shark fisherman than myself. This is real world Experience talking here. ;)
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: saltydog on February 01, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
Shark Hunter I can't wait for the water to warm and the tips to start pupping this year so we can try for some big Tigers, we are also planning a whole week in June fishing for tips on 16# thru 30# for records so wish us luck, and most of those will be with 3/0 thru 6/0 Senators and a few spinners to boot, but you can bet our 12/0 will be there too in force.
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 01, 2014, 10:58:43 PM
Go Big or Go Home Brother! I am only fishing with two reels this year. A 12/0 and a 14/0. ;)
Hopefully it will be an awesome year for both of Us! 8)
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: saltydog on February 01, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
Don't get me wrong it's go big or go home but were fishing for great big on the little ones as well as the big. HAHA I will probably get spooled a few times but we may also break a few records. The only thing about those 12/0 is last year it caught our smallest shark, a 4'2" Bull on a 10# ray. We pulled the bait in and he was on the circle hook still kicking away, another greedy gus for the books. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Penn 309 for shark fishing
Post by: pcde123 on February 03, 2014, 07:10:50 AM
agreed, buy a daiwa or penn reel, both can be found in the 4/0-6/0 range for around 50 dollars