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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Shark Hunter on February 01, 2014, 02:59:38 PM

Title: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 01, 2014, 02:59:38 PM
Look at this old 12/0. I have never seen a spool where the chrome is completely gone, but it is not pitted. The handle and sleeve are extremely sloppy.
It has amazing free spool, It just sounds like a motorcycle when you crank it! :o
I was going to have Jamie powder coat the spool, The more I think about it, I think I'm just going to double dog it, shim the sleeve, put a Keta Krank on it and Fish it! 8) I'm only in it for a Benjamin so far.
We will se what awaits me inside this old Soldier!

Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: floating doc on February 01, 2014, 04:43:44 PM
It has some life left in it yet. Go for it!
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Irish Jigger on February 01, 2014, 07:54:13 PM
Have you considered having it re-chromed?
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Chris Gatorfan on February 01, 2014, 10:14:42 PM
Alright Daron I want the name and address of your reel acquasition man. Rough or not you cant beat 100 for a 12/0.
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 01, 2014, 10:22:22 PM
Its called ebay brother. ;) In the right place at the right time. 8)
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: erikpowell on February 01, 2014, 10:36:14 PM

Quote from: Irish Jigger on February 01, 2014, 07:54:13 PM
Have you considered having it re-chromed?

I had a friend who worked at a chrome shop in Erlanger a few years back. They re-chromed bumpers & custom harley parts.
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: saltydog on February 01, 2014, 10:38:20 PM
Great find and for the price it looks pretty good I have seen some on fleabay lately for a lot more in worse condition.
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 01, 2014, 10:42:41 PM
This is going to be a budget build. The least money for the most Bang! The spool is perfect other than not having any chrome left. I'm going to hit it with 1000 grit and polish it with car wax. Its going to be a sleeper! ;)
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: saltydog on February 01, 2014, 10:44:44 PM
That is a sleeper alright I bet the sharks won't feel the difference.
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 02, 2014, 11:57:40 PM
Its not as bad as I expected. I have seen worse in these old reels.
I shimmed the sleeve and went to work on the plate for the double dog.
Made a custom 7 stack from Eric's .120 sheet. The gears are worn, but I think they have a lot of life left.
I am keeping with the budget build theme, Its tough, but this reel will still be just as good, just not that pretty. I just polished the spool with Mothers wheel polish. Its nice and smooth, just ugly. :P
Money!
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: saltydog on February 03, 2014, 12:03:12 AM
Put some line on it and give em hell.
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 03, 2014, 12:14:57 AM
I intend to William, I just need a clamp. ;D
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Ron Jones on February 03, 2014, 07:13:19 AM
I know this spool isn't the one, but one of these days I'd like to see someone industrial hard chrome a spool. I don't have anything bigger than a 114HLW, and I think an aluminum spool would be less than the price of chroming a brass one. But the larger reels might make economical sense.
Ron
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Dynamo on February 03, 2014, 05:15:06 PM
I'd advise doing something with that spool, the bare brass corrodes pretty easily.
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Alto Mare on February 03, 2014, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: Dynamo on February 03, 2014, 05:15:06 PM
I'd advise doing something with that spool, the bare brass corrodes pretty easily.
X2, clean it really good, take all the chrome off and keep it on the shelf ;).
This one would be money well spent:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/29L-116.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/29L-116.aspx)
if you place an order over $160, I believe you'll get that spool for a little over $50....can't beat that.


"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Tightlines667 on February 03, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
If you do decide to try to remove all the chrome, I've found that a 10-15 min soak in OSPHO (phosphoric acid), followed by a little 'buffing' with a brass wire wheel (on a benchtop grinder or hand drill) will remove the chrome and polish up the bronze nicely.

Also, I've been wondering if it is possible to treat the raw material by some other method (other then chroming/powder coating/painting) to protect/preserve and prevent corrosion issues.  I was thinking about the gun smithing kits used to protect brass on do-it-yourself kits. 
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: redsetta on February 03, 2014, 08:01:04 PM
I've been wanting to try electroless nickel plating for a few years now, but am yet to find the right project (or the time!).
It produces a very hard and and corrosion-resistant finish, and can also fill small recesses etc such as pitting...
It looks great too, I reckon ;)
Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Ron Jones on February 03, 2014, 09:34:14 PM
Electroless nickel would work well. If I was a millionaire everything I own would be coated with Robars Nickel/PTFE. Most gunsmithing treatments blacken brass. Not much resistance to salt unfortunatly.
Ron
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 03, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
Ok, you guys aren't going to let sleeping dogs Lie. ;) I'm sending the spool to Jamie for powder coating. ;D
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: floating doc on February 03, 2014, 11:26:49 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 03, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
Ok, you guys aren't going to let sleeping dogs Lie. ;) I'm sending the spool to Jamie for powder coating. ;D

good choice. Waiting for the pictures. How much to powder coat?
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 03, 2014, 11:29:57 PM
$40
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: johndtuttle on February 04, 2014, 12:07:43 AM


I love 'em like this. Obviously well used over decades before you got it, smooth as silk mechanically after some TLC. :D
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 17, 2014, 09:03:40 AM
Put in another chromed spool that I thought was bad. Its working flawlessly. The shimmed sleeve is tight. Feels better than a new one! ;) Just need some better posts and I'll be set. 8)
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 24, 2014, 05:04:14 AM
I got my spool back from Jamie Today. The poor guy reworked it several times and said he wasn't happy with it. He ended up painting it with Emron. I am very pleased with it! Good Job Jamie! Thanks Bro! ;D
I'll put it on the shelf Now Sal! ;) Yea, that is the same corroded spool that was showing all brass! :o
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Three se7ens on April 24, 2014, 05:23:57 AM
Imron is some seriously good paint.  Better than powdercoat really.  It's an old school leaded paint that's tough as nails, and is still used on aircraft. It also lays out better than anything I have sprayed before or since.  
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 24, 2014, 05:32:36 AM
I know Adam! Thats what makes it so Cool! Anyone else have an Imron coated 12/0 Spool! ;D I think not!
Jamie is the Man!  ;)
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Makule on April 25, 2014, 08:43:30 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on April 24, 2014, 05:32:36 AM
I know Adam! Thats what makes it so Cool! Anyone else have an Imron coated 12/0 Spool! ;D I think not!
Jamie is the Man!  ;)

It may be one step below chrome plating for durability and, as stated, is very good.
Title: Re: Battle Weary 12/0
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 25, 2014, 10:28:35 PM
That means a lot coming from you Albert! ;D
No joshing. ;)