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Title: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: scrumpy on February 04, 2014, 09:44:47 AM
I have the chance to buy a Daiwa Sealine 6/0. I'm pretty sure that this reel if from the mid 70's though it appears to be in 'as new' condition. This reel would be used, my biggest concern is spares, more specifically drag washers should I require any. Thoughts ?

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7391/12302350523_82e9b2a254_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 04, 2014, 09:49:21 AM
Scrumpy,
I'm no expert on Daiwa's, but that doesn't look like one to me.
I don't think Daiwa made a reel called a 6/0.
The Daiwa H series have an aluminum frame. This looks like a Penn knock off to me.
Personally, I would stay away from it.
This is a Daiwa 600H. It is a good reel.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=6656.0
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: scrumpy on February 04, 2014, 10:19:56 AM
It's advertised as a Daiwa, and the guy collects/sells Daiwa gear. I was thinking that it may be pre-600H. Not found anything on the web about it... Curious!
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Bryan Young on February 04, 2014, 04:42:46 PM
Thank looks like a Daiwa from the 70s.  I believe those came with SS support rings and posts, but I cannot completely remember.  I knew a few guys who had them.

Without opening it up, it's hard to tell if they share any components with current reels.  Sorry, I cannot help further.
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Irish Jigger on February 04, 2014, 05:01:03 PM
I think it's the real McCoy.
Repaired one for a friend recently,Daiwa parts scarce,well engineered reel.
Quite a few on Ebay,ref link below.
Drag washers should not be a problem.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAIWA-SEALINE-900H-BIG-GAME-DEEP-SEA-FISHING-REEL-Works-great-/221367471476
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 04, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
If the price is reasonable, Go for it. ;D You can never have too many reels. ;)
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: LTM on February 04, 2014, 06:15:24 PM
Take more close up pictures showing identification marks. Dont worry about drags, you can make some if they dont carry any. You may be on to something as Bryan said, especially if the price is right. You'd be suprised at how much you can restore.

Leo
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Robert Janssen on February 04, 2014, 07:40:17 PM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/daiwa-Sealine-900-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/CSoAAMXQPW5SD3Fu/$T2eC16RHJG8FGsJN1Z4wBSD3FtG5lQ~~60_58.JPG)
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 04, 2014, 09:05:29 PM
Robert, I now know why Sal calls you a genius. ;D
You better jump on that reel scrumpy! :P
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: scrumpy on February 05, 2014, 09:23:16 AM
Cheers for the input chaps, I took a gamble and bought it... awaiting delivery.
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 05, 2014, 09:26:28 AM
Show us some pictures when you get it. ;)
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: scrumpy on February 05, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 05, 2014, 09:26:28 AM
Show us some pictures when you get it. ;)

Will do for sure. If I can intercept the postman before my wife I'll post photos of the complete reel, otherwise you'll have close ups of the internals and various unidentifiable parts  ;D
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Irish Jigger on February 05, 2014, 10:21:12 AM
Good luck with your reel scrumpy.
Big enough for anything you are likely to catch over here.
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 05, 2014, 10:46:51 AM
Quote from: scrumpy on February 05, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 05, 2014, 09:26:28 AM
Show us some pictures when you get it. ;)

Will do for sure. If I can intercept the postman before my wife I'll post photos of the complete reel, otherwise you'll have close ups of the internals and various unidentifiable parts  ;D
Welcome to the Dark Side! ;D
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: Chris Gatorfan on February 05, 2014, 02:32:03 PM
Looks like a good find I hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: dogdad1 on February 05, 2014, 08:24:13 PM
"... If I can intercept the postman before my wife I'll post photos of the complete reel...". 

Reminds me of the old saying about: 'I Worry That When I Die That My Wife Sells All My Fishing Gear Fop What I Told Her I Paid For It'
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: DaBigOno on February 05, 2014, 08:32:45 PM
I'm looking forward to watching this reel get hot-rodded.  We're cheering for you Scrumpy!


Quote from: scrumpy on February 05, 2014, 10:07:43 AM

If I can intercept the postman before my wife I'll post photos of the complete reel, otherwise you'll have close ups of the internals and various unidentifiable parts  ;D



Sounds like you're on the same game plan as me.  
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info?
Post by: scrumpy on February 06, 2014, 12:56:42 PM
Ok, just arrive today... fast delivery!!!

Well the reel is indeed like brand new, amazing condition for a reel that probably 35+ years of age. The build quality is superb, though I've not opened it up yet. The drag is very powerful and smooth, far more than I imagined, though I've not measured it.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7361/12342794564_838063ae65_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2870/12342499653_a76aa08342_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5544/12342794264_6378a57d10_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2811/12342794294_434a60dd26_b.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/12342794344_cba6fb1c94_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: BMITCH on February 06, 2014, 01:19:04 PM
I see that the free spool lever is on bass akwards. Who does this!! Welcome aboard and hope all goes well with this hot rod/build. As far as ordering under the table ( without the wife knowing). You'll need to order smaller parts/reels. Easier to hijack/hide when the post is delivered ::) ;D ;D
Bob
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: DaBigOno on February 06, 2014, 01:38:00 PM
Looks like you scored big-time Scrumpy!  That reel is pristine.  

Like Bob said, that free spool lever looks like its on backwards.   I love that line holder feature.

Awesome photos BTW.  
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: scrumpy on February 06, 2014, 01:42:24 PM
Interestingly, there's another photo of the 6/0 early on in this thread, the clutch lever is in the same orientation, the same in a photo I saw elsewhere. Coincidence?
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: DaBigOno on February 06, 2014, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: scrumpy on February 06, 2014, 01:42:24 PM
Interestingly, there's another photo of the 6/0 early on in this thread, the clutch lever is in the same orientation, the same in a photo I saw elsewhere. Coincidence?

I guess Penn guys like me, like it turned around.

;D
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: Irish Jigger on February 06, 2014, 02:02:03 PM
Same as the clicker lever,that's the Daiwa way,does'nt mark that nice chromed ring.
Nice reel scrumpy.
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: scrumpy on February 06, 2014, 02:34:00 PM
that said!...... the schematic shows it the other way around!. I've started to strip the reel to replace the grease, etc.. I might swap it over during that process

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2863/12344005415_375d1a2d3a_b.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7324/12344166453_c625b8af30_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: conchydong on February 06, 2014, 03:05:07 PM
That reel is mint. It looks like it was never fished. I didn't know that Daiwa was or maybe still is part of the Seiko Corporation. Watchmakers seem to make great reels.
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: BMITCH on February 06, 2014, 04:00:59 PM
IT LOOKS BRAND NEW  :o :o :o that's some find! Good luck. You probably won't be needing any parts for a long while. That is unless you plan on hot rodding it. Then watch how much it'll cost then. Super find!
Bob
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: scrumpy on February 06, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
Planning to keep it bog standard until it needs works
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 06, 2014, 05:31:58 PM
Good Plan Scrumpy. Glad it worked out for you. That Reel is Awesome! ;D
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: floating doc on February 06, 2014, 07:07:54 PM
Wow, what a clean reel!  I've never seen one of these.  I have several of the Sealine H series reels; I really like them. One of them has the Seiko name on it; I think it's the 900H. That reel is at Bryan's. It's serving as the test mule for some custom parts.
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: scrumpy on February 06, 2014, 07:25:02 PM
Well I dismantled it this afternoon (no photos sorry!). Two of the three drag washers were stuck to a metal washer, though they separated easily enough. I compared the internals to that of a 600H/900H on here and they are VERY similar. The 600H has it's two main clutch springs held in place with circlips, whereas they 'float' on the 6/0, sitting in recesses in the side plate with a bolt through the middle of each when assembled. The anti-reverse pawl is also different, again the spring floats and it a little fiddly to refit, needing to be slid into place into the side plate just before the whole gear mechanism is located back into the side plate (about an 1/8" gap to push and compress it into place). Interestingly, the main gear and drag washers appear to be identical to the 600H, so I hope to source an upgrade kit from Bryan on here to replace the existing washers for a smoother drag system.
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 06, 2014, 08:51:41 PM
Oh Really! :o
There is a gentlemen on here named gstours that will cut the gear for Hex Drags.
Is this true of all 600 and 900H's, that the main gears are identical?
Title: Re: Daiwa Sealine 6/0 - any info? (photos now added)
Post by: scrumpy on February 06, 2014, 09:06:01 PM
Not sure the 600/900 gears are the same... no idea. However, it would appear that the 6/0 gear is a match for the 600H gear, which I guess would make sense.