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Title: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 18, 2014, 12:01:02 AM

http://www.spiritofadventurefishing.com/news/fishing-tackle (http://www.spiritofadventurefishing.com/news/fishing-tackle)


Lets discuss what we want to bring, what we really should bring, what we should get to bring, what we need to borrow to bring and what we can bring to loan.

Is a Penn 4300SS to small for calico bass?

As of now I plan on bringing.....
Avet
Modified EX 2 speed (with a EX backup/loaner) on a 6-1/2" Seeker 60# rod
HXJ Raptor on a 6-1/2' Seeker 40# rod or a spiral wrapped rod on a seeker Hercules blank.
JS 2 speed on a 7' Seeker 30# rod
MX 2 speed on a 7' Seeker 30# rod
SX on a 15# or 20# rod
Penn
Modified Surfmaster 100 on a 7' Lamiglass 15#  rod
99 width Jigmaster on a 30# rod
Fathom 25N (4:1 now but I will bring the factory gears for YT on iron) on a 30# rod
113H "Tank" on a 6-1/2' Seeker 40# rod
349H on a 40# rod

I have several other reels I can bring for those that need them, including single and 2 speed Avets.  I doubt we will need any 30Ws, 50s or 70s.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 18, 2014, 12:05:39 AM
Keta, thanks for starting this thread... :)

this is what i'll probably bring;
         
 25#  MXJ(40# dyneema backing) on a 700ML  SX(40# spectra backing) on a G-270H-8' CT

 30#  SALD35-2SP(60# spectra backing) on a 800M  ???  TN16A(60# spectra backing) on a GR-700-M
 
 40#  MK-8II SEa(50# spectra backing) on a 20-60 ???   OC40(mono) on a 700MH

 50#  MK-10II SEa(60# spectra backing) on a 760L  ???   GOSA 20000SW(80# spectra backing) on an OceanXtreme 7655

 Dropper Loop  113H 4/0(now more special, 80# Dyneema backing) on a 765M

 Jigging set-up  BX-500N on a  ???

 Back-ups

 25#  CS550(mono) on a PSX-808

 30#  112H(mono)

 40#  PG541(mono) on a CARBW765L

to be modified/updated as I learn more... :)

you can also refer to American Angler's tackle recommendation, which i think is more detailed. sorry SOA... :D :)

http://www.americananglersportfishing.com/suggested-tackle/
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 18, 2014, 12:18:19 AM
Thanks Keta! Now my wife is laughing at me as I just tore up the garage and found my old Seeker S870-7' and my Okuma Catalina CT30C...Now I need a reel clamp and a rod tip...She keeps saying "Is it June yet!!!"

I think I'm OK on rods n reels now that I read your posts. I'm sure I went overkill on hooks and jigs, but I was signed up on a different trip & just read the list they gave for suggested tackle on a 6-8 day trip.

Will Calico's hit 4-5" swimbaits? 1-2oz. jigheads??? I think I have a bunch of that stuff for shallow water kelp fishing off the central coast. What kind of Jigs to bring?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 18, 2014, 02:06:25 AM
Calicos will nail swim baits just like a large mouth bass or a NW black rock fish. I am a light tackle fisherman and so I've never considered it but lots of people use up to 2oz heads . I'm way more comfortable with a 1/2-3/4 oz with a 4-5" swimbait. Sometimes they aren't interested in anything that doesn't have a curly tail so I'd bring some grubs that work with the jig heads. For bait I like size 1 or 2 hooks and will go down to 4 if we have pin heads or the bass are finiky (please Lord God no on the pin heads.)

Lee, your bringing a lot of gear!! Which worries me because I wasn't planning on all that and you have more experience than me.

I am bringing a Newelled BayMaster for live bait bass on a 8' 20# All Star and a SealineX 20SHV / Millionaire 300CX-V for artificials on an 8' All Star California Calico Special.

For YT I am bringing a Newelled Albacore Special and a YellowTail special. The Yellowtail has 4:1 gears, double dogs, stainless sleeve and Alan's handle, the Albacor Special will have all of Alan Cs goodies assuming he gets then done on time. I will leave it 4:1 with a steel gear for live bait work. Besides, it worked for the old So Cal fisherman way back when. Both of these will be on Yellow Po's unless I can swing something better before the trip.

I may bring a grouper special on an Okuma halibut rod just in case we get stuck bottom fishing. Those slow gears suck to reel up empty but sure put a hurtin on the fish during the fight.

The heaviest I am bringing is my Newelled Tuna Special with all the fixins including Lee's drag insert. It is loaded with 60# and I have it bolted to a Yellow Po.

I'm bringing several pounds of plastics and even more jigs of various sizes. I'm from the Pacific North West and so I have a lot of Point Wilson darts, it is actually cool to catch a salmon off of Point Wilson with a Point Wilson dart. I don't know if anyone has caught a yellowtail with a PWD, but I intend to.

I'm open to suggestions for anything else.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 18, 2014, 02:15:22 AM
Well didn't I just stir up a hornets nest. Don't ever tell your little girl what gear your taking fishing and not include the rig you made up for her Christmas present! So I'm also bringing a Penn 85 on a Penn 30# Mariner rod, I'll also bring my Shimano 300 spinner on a 8ft Shakespeare rod just in case we do have pinners and the bass want to be fly lined to. Sometimes even the slickest conventional can't cast with a baby anchovie and a hook at the end of the line.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 18, 2014, 02:26:10 AM
Quote from: noyb72 on March 18, 2014, 02:06:25 AMLee, your bringing a lot of gear!! Which worries me because I wasn't planning on all that and you have more experience than me.
I'm a gear whore  ;D  and I want to test some of my modifications.  I also expect to loan gear out to those in need.

Captain Grabowski gave me enough Mustad ringed "J" and "C" hooks "to last my life time" and I can cover baits from tiny chovie to salami and skippies, what sizes should I bring?  I'm thinking sardine will be our largest bait unless we make bait down south.  I will bring 3 hook sabikis.

I will bring my YT iron and some for albacore.

I will bring some surface poppers.

I'm short on swim baits, especially small stuff.  What colors and size?  Some freshwater bass swimbaits are available locally.

What will I need for trolling?  I'm assuming my large marauders should stay home.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 18, 2014, 02:29:18 AM
12-25 lb:
Okuma CD-65 w Quantum Offshore Blue Runner BROS70M

20-40 lb:
Tiburonized Penn 27 with hybrid internals w/ Okuma Oceanic OC-C-701MH
Penn 970 w/ 7' no-name 20-40 lb E-glass
Okuma CT-30C w/ Okuma Catalina CT-C-661MH

40-50 lb:
Penn SSV8500LL Fin-Nor Lethal LT100 w/ Daiwa STW70MHS 7' MH
Daiwa 400H w/ Okuma CT-T-601M
Okuma CT-55N (converted from 6.2:1 to 4:1) w/ Okuma CT-T-601MH
Okuma SD-55L (to swap out with 400H or CT-55N for bottom fishing)

The "just-in-case"/trolling setups with Bryan Young's 5+1 upgrades:
2x Daiwa 600H w/ Okuma CT-T-561H
Daiwa 600H w/ Okuma BG-T-601M-1

All the conventionals have mods that I want to field test.




Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 18, 2014, 02:54:56 AM
OH BOY!I'm going to learn allot on my first trip!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 18, 2014, 03:05:09 AM
Lee,
As far as colors, I really like green and white, Mexican flag, chartreuse and really dark colors for overcast days. Basically similar to tuna clone colors. I have never trolled off a party boat, so I'm hoping someone else can hop in here. Beings how we are not getting into big stuff presumably, I'm guessing feathers and maybe even some clones!
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 18, 2014, 03:15:54 AM
On the boat I was deckhand on we trolled feathers and diving plugs, mostly X-Raps but some Yo-Zuri Hydromags for albacore.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 18, 2014, 03:22:23 AM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on March 18, 2014, 03:20:03 AM
I'm not sure how to move this to the top of this thread, but this should be a good starting point:



I will put it in my first post.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Norcal Pescador on March 18, 2014, 03:49:08 AM
What I'm bringing:
[1] Newell 220 / 15# Mono (a maybe)
Penn Power Stick 7' [12-30#]

[2] Penn 501T / 30#Spectra + 20#Mono topshot
Seeker Classic 7' [15-40#]

[3] Newell 300C / 50#Spectra + 40#Mono topshot
Seeker Pinhead-TNT 7' [30-60#]

[4] Penn 113HL / 40# Mono
Penn Senator 6'6" [30-60#]RS-RT

[5] Penn 113H / 50#Spectra
DH Uglystick 6' [40-80#]Graphite

[6] Penn 113HN / 65#Spectra
Tan Custom 6'10" [60#]

[7] 114H / 80#Mono (a maybe)
Tidewater 6' [50-80#]RS-RT

The 114H needs to be tested after upgrading.
The 113HL (dbl SS dogs, SS gear sleeve, Newell 4:1 gears) combo will be fished then may sell after the trip. Rod never used.
I have several other tani-ized Penns (Jigmasters, 111) that I will be bring for loaning during the trip.

Will talk about terminal tackle later after I hear more from yoda (alan).
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 18, 2014, 06:23:17 AM
Rob,
Have you fished that tidewater much?
The NEX has them and the bigger all roller one at a good price but I haven't heard anything about them from anyone I trust. What do you think?
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: maxpowers on March 18, 2014, 06:47:31 AM
There is a discussion going around that the fleet may be stuck with anchovies vs sardines for the upcoming season.  You may have to make bait as well as fish the lighter outfits instead of the heavier stuff.  Just passing along the info.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 18, 2014, 10:15:21 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 18, 2014, 02:54:56 AM
OH BOY!I'm going to learn allot on my first trip!

me too! i've only done shore fishing when i lived in NY and this was in the early 90's...OH BOY! again... :D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on March 18, 2014, 02:35:41 PM
I'm going with...

Bass Lexa 300 / OC Rods Kaiuli 86 Mag
Bass/YT iron Lexa 400 / Phenix PSW809H
20# Penn 525 Mag / Phenix PSX807
25# Avet MXJ / Phenix PSW808MH
30# Avet SX Raptor / Phenix PSW809H
40# Daiwa SALD40II / Phenix PSW760H
50# Avet JX Raptor / Phenix PSW700XH

Hooks... lots, from #6 - 8/0, ringed, std, J, Circle
Iron, YoYo and surface
Lead heads w/plastics

Looks like BFT are back in the counts! But 'chovies for bait.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Norcal Pescador on March 18, 2014, 03:53:19 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on March 18, 2014, 06:23:17 AM
Rob,
Have you fished that tidewater much?
The NEX has them and the bigger all roller one at a good price but I haven't heard anything about them from anyone I trust. What do you think?
Ron

Haven't fished it yet, it will also be tested. I'll let you put some time on it during the trip, hopefully there will be something worthy attached to the other end of the line. ;)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Jerseymic on March 18, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
WOW! you guys are in a different league to what we are in the U.K.

All that gear makes my eyes water.

Hope your trip goes well.

Mike.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 18, 2014, 07:11:30 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on March 18, 2014, 02:06:25 AM...I may bring a grouper special on an Okuma halibut rod just in case we get stuck bottom fishing. Those slow gears suck to reel up empty but sure put a hurtin on the fish during the fight..

Hey Ron,

Is the halibut rod the Okuma CE-C-461Ha or CE-C-561Ha?

Wai
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 18, 2014, 07:28:30 PM
I'm looking at the 561, I think that it and a grouper special would be a perfect pair.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 18, 2014, 07:54:40 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on March 18, 2014, 07:28:30 PM
I'm looking at the 561, I think that it and a grouper special would be a perfect pair.
Ron

Neither the 461 or the 561 is common in SoCal to my knowledge; I look forward to seeing it. Could just order one off of Amazon, but would prefer to see an actual one in-person first.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 18, 2014, 09:39:27 PM
Wally world caries them out here. A few bucks more than on line but everything is like that in Hawaii. I've pulled on it and really like it. It has a long forend that would sit against a rail nicely.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 19, 2014, 12:43:29 AM
It looks like I'm going to have to find room in my reel bag for a Newell 220 now.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 19, 2014, 02:25:34 AM
WOW! I am a bit overwhelmed by all these numbers of rods n reels, hooks & jigs...Just when you thought you could fish, you run into reel fishn' knowledge ... This will be fun for sure ... I'm learning new knots & leader splices,ect...Alan was right " Tim you need to go fishing with us" ... Sometimes it's best to get lucky...Thanks for taking me on.

Big Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 19, 2014, 03:08:20 AM
You can get by with 3 rigs for this trip, a 20/30, a 40 and a 50/60.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Norcal Pescador on March 19, 2014, 04:41:22 AM
Quote from: Keta on March 19, 2014, 03:08:20 AM
You can get by with 3 rigs for this trip, a 20/30, a 40 and a 50/60.

Yup.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 19, 2014, 05:02:36 AM
I tried really hard to pick just three, but I just saw them crying in the rack and I have to prep them for the boat.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 19, 2014, 05:06:02 AM
Quote from: Keta on March 19, 2014, 03:08:20 AM
You can get by with 3 rigs for this trip, a 20/30, a 40 and a 50/60.

i think so too but i'm bringing back-ups just in case... :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 19, 2014, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 19, 2014, 05:06:02 AM
Quote from: Keta on March 19, 2014, 03:08:20 AM
You can get by with 3 rigs for this trip, a 20/30, a 40 and a 50/60.

i think so too but i'm bringing back-ups just in case... :)

Always prudent to have something for just-in-case.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Bryan Young on March 19, 2014, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 19, 2014, 02:25:34 AM
WOW! I am a bit overwhelmed by all these numbers of rods n reels, hooks & jigs...Just when you thought you could fish, you run into reel fishn' knowledge ... This will be fun for sure ... I'm learning new knots & leader splices,ect...Alan was right " Tim you need to go fishing with us" ... Sometimes it's best to get lucky...Thanks for taking me on.

Big Tim
Me too Big Tim...me too.

Not to worry, I believe Alan is bringing all of his gear, and with rod/reel rotation, could outfit the entire crew.  ;D

Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 19, 2014, 04:23:03 PM
boy i'd love to use Alan T.'s gear but i'd rather use mine to discover if the modifications and tunings i did works... :D ;D

btw Bryan, are you coming? it'll will be a lot of fun... :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Bryan Young on March 19, 2014, 05:07:52 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 19, 2014, 04:23:03 PM
boy i'd love to use Alan T.'s gear but i'd rather use mine to discover if the modifications and tunings i did works... :D ;D

btw Bryan, are you coming? it'll will be a lot of fun... :)
I'm trying to work it out.  My kids have a parent participation summer program to learn about their Japanese heritage, and that will be the first of the 4 week event.  If I were to pay, and I end-up having to participate, I'll be out the cost of the trip and no fish to show for it.  And my wife also has to participate as well...we both have different duties.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 19, 2014, 05:37:20 PM
i fully understand Bryan. family always first... :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: LTM on March 19, 2014, 07:45:04 PM
This is soooo much fun to read your comments. Gear selection/prepration before a long range trip is almost exciting as the trip itself. Its very interesting reading your rational/logic about gear selection, makes me feel like Im prepiing to go with you all. As mentioned you can get by with just 3-4 outfits which reminds me an old saying in the gun world: Beware of the man with just one gun. Meaning the guy with one gun TYPICALL is very good with it. I know from personal experience that its next to IMPOSSIBLE to "KEEP IT SIMPLE", however it really works against you to take too much gear (except for those nice enough to bring loaner gear).  You guys remind me of the US going to war and testing out all their new and improved weapons. For those taking UNTESTED gear, it would be wise to bring back-ups cause if you run into some MEAN FISH they WILL test your gear to the LIMITS.

The most important lesson Ive learned about long range fishing (really all of my fishing) is to enjoy the trip/environment FIRST, dont worry about the fish for their right below your feet. ALSO, TAKE A NOTE PAD TO TAKE NOTES/OBSERVATIONS on gear, rigging, etc, this will pay off big-time for future trips. One thing is for sure for all of you first timers, YOU WILL COME BACK MUCH BETTER FISHERMEN FOR SURE!

ENJOY EACH OTHER AND THE TRIP GUYS,

Leo
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 19, 2014, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: LTM on March 19, 2014, 07:45:04 PM
For those taking UNTESTED gear, it would be wise to bring back-ups cause if you run into some MEAN FISH they WILL test your gear to the LIMITS.

Leo, exactly my sentiments. the FTH12 Toro 50 CS550 MXJ BX-500N 750SS TLD20/40 SD have been tested and proven on freshwater species ranging from 3 to almost 30 kilos. as a newbie in this SDLR type of fishing i think it's better for me to be ready than to be disappointed because the only "gun" i brought to the fight was the wrong one...;D ;D ;D. also the only rod tested and proven is the MK-S-701M.

btw this guy who brought one gun is he a "sniper"? :) :D ;D

still have some time for you to sign up...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 20, 2014, 02:05:41 AM
Great words Leo...Mel I agree with you...I would rather use my gear than loaner gear, but I also have to be cost conscious..That being said my wife has given me the LOOK every time I bring a new rod or reel into the house... ;D ;D ;D..I'm sure we will be OK!...Just cleaned up an ol' Okuma Catalina CT-30C (smooth) and had my Buddy Eric from Fisherman's Warehouse put a rod tip on a $10 garage sale special Seeker E glass 7'  870 for Calico Bass..If June was tomorrow I would be a whole lot richer :D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 20, 2014, 02:29:13 AM
Big Tim, lucky me no one is giving me the looks, i'm on vacation from them.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 20, 2014, 02:35:37 AM
Lee,
Further back you said a 60 pound rig would be a good idea. I'm bringing one because I want to, but what fish do you think we'll get into that will need gear that big?
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 20, 2014, 02:37:57 AM
Mel: Vacations are cool! This will be my 1st. paid vacation since 2006 :-[...I am stoked!!!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 20, 2014, 02:41:16 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 20, 2014, 02:37:57 AM
I am stoked!!!

me too, except that i've been on vacation since Oct. 1998... :) :) :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 20, 2014, 02:42:14 AM
Quote from: noyb72 on March 20, 2014, 02:35:37 AM
Lee,
Further back you said a 60 pound rig would be a good idea. I'm bringing one because I want to, but what fish do you think we'll get into that will need gear that big?
Ron

After I get rocked by large YT a few times I break out my 60lb rig unless we can get them mid or top water.  I might troll with it too but we will see what the crew recommends.  A 40 or 60 is what I prefer for making bait too.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 20, 2014, 02:54:34 AM
saw one on youtube using a talica 12II 65# braid/50# Seaguar blue flouro  on a PHD-760XH on the 3/4 day M/V San Diego. i wonder why?  ;D ;D

take a peek;  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRdB4P4v5Is
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 20, 2014, 03:10:05 AM
This one was caught on a MX 2 speed and 25lb, they were suspended at 90' over a 200' hump.

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/YT.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/YT.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: SoCalAngler on March 20, 2014, 05:12:37 PM
As far as gear goes I don't really see a need for anything less than 25lb test. Maybe bring some 20lb flouro to add a short leader if you happen to get lucky and get into some early season albies and their line shy. If you happen to stop at say Cedros and you want to fish some bass their not line shy at all so 25lb plus line is fine for them. If you want to fish lite line fine but you don't want to be "that guy" to hook up to something bigger on a troll or meter stop and everyone has to wait for you to land a fish beacuse your undergunned and the school has moved on. Not to say fishing lite line is a bad thing as I do it often but doing so requires the right skills and the need to put the maximum pressure on a fish you can.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on March 20, 2014, 08:55:55 PM
My Lexa 300 has 50# spectra with a leader of 40-50# fluoro when I use it as Cedros.  I picked up a Lexa 400 for this year too.  Cedros YT like swimbaits almost as much as the Calicos... although the 45#er in my avatar pic was caught on a Mac fished on 50#.  My son got YT of 37 and 25# on swimbaits fished on a Curado 300EJ with 50# spectra and a 50# fluoro leader.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 22, 2014, 01:45:05 PM
how about artificials, irons yoyos etc, for YTs? what do you guys reccommend?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: SoCalAngler on March 22, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
For yoyo and surface iron I like fishing 40lb test. You may need to step up to 50lb on the yoyo iron if you keep getting rocked. My go too reel for fishing 40lb in Baja is my JX 6/3 it offers the speed while yoyoing and power when needed by dropping to low gear. I set my drag at 10lbs at strike with line ran through the rods guides and then measured with a spring scale. Setting up my reel like this allows me more drag be moving the reels lever past strike when needed, though it is rare that I need to do this it does happen.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on March 23, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
guys, don't go with too much gear.  figure a 60-80 pound dropper loop rig, two 50's, two 40's, two 30's and a bass rod.  you can also bring a troller, but i have five that i was going to put together. 
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 23, 2014, 04:57:57 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 23, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
guys, don't go with too much gear.  figure a 60-80 pound dropper loop rig, two 50's, two 40's, two 30's and a bass rod.  you can also bring a troller, but i have five that i was going to put together. 

Will we need 50s?    What weight rods?   I'm planning on loaning gear out to those that don't have it.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 23, 2014, 05:59:52 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 23, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
...figure a 60-80 pound dropper loop rig...you can also bring a troller, but i have five that i was going to put together. 

I am bringing three Daiwa 600H's that can do double duty as 60-80lb droppers and trollers (the one to be set up as 60lb can have it's topshot swapped out for 80lb in a pinch for trolling).
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on March 23, 2014, 10:24:51 PM
anything is fine, but try to keep it down to 10 rods at most. 
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 23, 2014, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 23, 2014, 10:24:51 PM
anything is fine, but try to keep it down to 10 rods at most. 

10 is my personal cap.  Do we really need to bring a 50 and on what class rod?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 23, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
10! Holy cow...I am under gunned for sure, that being said it doesn't look like I need a trolling set up, but could use another 40 or 50 set up...I have a G. Loomis all roller 60-100 rod that I really don't need & a Daiwa Tournament SLT30ii (old one) that I would like to unload. Not sure where to do that here on this site...The rod is new but has some storage scratches & the SLT is 30 years old but in fantastic condition...Help is appreciated.

Big Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on March 23, 2014, 11:32:31 PM
I might be interested in the G. Loomis.  What is the length and how much do you want for it.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 23, 2014, 11:36:42 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 23, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
10! Holy cow...I am under gunned for sure,

Not really, some of us are gear wh....
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 23, 2014, 11:37:45 PM
Dom: It's a 6' PS R72-80R SU  60-100 FAST ACTION...Depending where it's shipped I would just want my $$$ back $290.00 shipped in the US (I got a good deal).

Big Tim

please pm on my personal messages so we don't take up Alan's space
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 23, 2014, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 23, 2014, 11:36:42 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 23, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
10! Holy cow...I am under gunned for sure,

Not really, some of us are gear wh....

I just want to go fishing...Never done this before and have been trying since 2006, but when you have a car fall on you it kind of side tracks you a bit...I will make do...I am a Harley who@# and proud of it ;D ;D ;D


Big Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 23, 2014, 11:48:20 PM
I had my legs smashed in a scissor lift.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 23, 2014, 11:51:48 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 23, 2014, 11:48:20 PM
I had my legs smashed in a scissor lift.

Mine was a Honda CRV on a failed alignment rack...10" drop on the button..Major concussion and neck "n" back...I really liked that job
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 24, 2014, 01:30:15 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 23, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
10! Holy cow...I am under gunned for sure...

Just keep in mind that some of us are bringing gear just to see if the reel mods hold up or blows up... ::)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: LTM on March 24, 2014, 03:50:55 AM
Hold your horses guys,

10 rods/reels I think is max recommendation for a 13 day giant tuna trip!!!  Alan is going to be kind enough to bring 5 TROLLING OUTFITS!! Guys, thats a blessing (one MAJOR EXPENSE you dont have to deal with). The guy who brings 4-6 setups max is going to have a hell of a time. PLEASE, SOMEONE TAKE PICTURES OF ALL THE TACKLE before you leave. For the person whos been dreaming of trying different rods and reels, this ought to be a dream come true.

Dont sink the ship with tackle guys,

Leo
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 24, 2014, 04:08:23 AM
 :) :) :) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: SoCalAngler on March 24, 2014, 04:58:34 AM
Quote from: Keta on March 23, 2014, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 23, 2014, 10:24:51 PM
anything is fine, but try to keep it down to 10 rods at most. 

10 is my personal cap.  Do we really need to bring a 50 and on what class rod?

IMO no a 50 sized reel will be over kill. The boat will have trollers and it sounds like others will bring them as well. 30's for trolling will be plenty or 113's should be fine. You guys will most likely be fishing for YT's, grouper and such. There is a shot at bass if you guys stay coastal, hit Cedros or Beniticto. The Lupe I don't think is open and it's early for tuna so you shouldn't run there because it's so far from everything if nothing is happening it's such a long run to anythere else. If you go offshore you will hit some of the banks like Uncle Sam and others. Hopefully you will run into some early season tuna but Cows will not be in the mix unless a miracle happens. If you do find tuna they will in all likelyhood ablies or BFT as it will be too early for YFT.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 24, 2014, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 23, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
...and a bass rod.  

since the rod limit is 10, and i'm not saying i'll bring 10, i'll use the PS808 and G270H-8' as my bass rods. i know it's too much but i'd rather buy rods for the primary target which is YT.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 24, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
Quote from: Porthos on March 24, 2014, 01:30:15 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 23, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
10! Holy cow...I am under gunned for sure...

Just keep in mind that some of us are bringing gear just to see if the reel mods hold up or blows up... ::)
x2 especially my 112H with PC's 5:1 gear ratio Bryan's 5+1 SS this and SS that. hopefully will catch a "monster's" that will test this reel's innards to the max (real world).

also i'm taking full advantage of it. catching and getting the fish on the boat, read it somewhere here, is a bonus. for me the challenge of hooking and the fight that follows , in short fishing, is IT. and as i put more on the boat fishing experience, most of all CONFIDENCE, then tackle becomes "SIMPLE", much simpler.

"EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED" and to put it mildly "things happen"...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 24, 2014, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: Keta on March 20, 2014, 02:42:14 AM
...rocked by large YT...

also hear this term on youtube videos, part of my research, does this mean the line broke or got unhooked? got to learn the fishing lingo. :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 24, 2014, 12:59:12 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 24, 2014, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: Keta on March 20, 2014, 02:42:14 AM
...rocked by large YT...

also hear this term on youtube videos, part of my research, does this mean the line broke or got unhooked? got to learn the fishing lingo. :)

Mel: I believe the term getting rocked is referring to the fish heading into the rocks and breaking or cutting your line. That being said I will just bring my ol' Buck knife and snorklke & you and I can just go get em the old fashion way ;D ;D ;D...Have a great day!!!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 24, 2014, 02:52:21 PM
quote
...That being said I will just bring my ol' Buck knife and snorklke & you and I can just go get em the old fashion way...
end quote

good one.  :) :) :) in here we call it "covardia" the cowardly way. :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 24, 2014, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 24, 2014, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: Keta on March 20, 2014, 02:42:14 AM
...rocked by large YT...

also hear this term on youtube videos, part of my research, does this mean the line broke or got unhooked? got to learn the fishing lingo. :)

When a YT is on structure they tend to use the sharp rocks to cut you off.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 24, 2014, 03:02:53 PM
ok Lee, no wonder we need up to 50lb mono/fluoro line to have that extra umph=to stop that beast... :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 24, 2014, 03:08:33 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 24, 2014, 03:02:53 PM
ok Lee, no wonder we need up to 50lb mono/fluoro line to have that extra umph=to stop that beast... :)

I've had to go to 80 a few times.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 24, 2014, 03:21:08 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 24, 2014, 03:02:53 PM
ok Lee, no wonder we need up to 50lb mono/fluoro line to have that extra umph=to stop that beast... :)

On his 2005 SOA trip, our illustrious sensei got rocked when using 20lbs of drag...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 24, 2014, 04:51:11 PM
wow 20 lbs of drag. gotta go to the gym ASAP or at least do push ups...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on March 24, 2014, 04:59:45 PM
it can be a little confusing.  when i talk about 30, 50 and 80 "class" reels, i mean reels with the penn, shimano, avet, accurate or makaira 30's, 50's or 80's.  these are loaded with 100 to 200 pound spectra and have drag settings of 20 to 60 pounds.  i have three "50 class" reels and two "30 class" reels that i will bring for trolling.  

mostly, we will need live bait or jig reels with topshots of 30, 40 and 50 pound mono or fluoro.  these are typically small two speeds that are loaded up with 300 yards of 50 to 60 pound spectra and 25 yard topshots of your favorite line.  40 pound will be your main set up.  go to 50 if the bite is easy.  if you are not getting bit, drop down to a 30 pound topshot, but prepare to have a fight on your hands.  

we will be targeting bluefin and yellowfin to 60 pounds in open water (if we can find them), an occasional stray dorado to 20 pounds in open water, yellowtail to 40 pounds at cedros, and calicos to 10 pounds at cedros.  these are relatively small fish.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 24, 2014, 05:13:28 PM
Alan, thanks for clearing it up. i'm thinking my PG541 "MAN CAVE WORKS" :D(80lb dyneema backing) with the upgrades can be used with a topshot of 60# mono/fluoro  ???
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on March 24, 2014, 06:06:25 PM
that will work!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 24, 2014, 06:29:13 PM
My lord,
If I hook into a 60 pound Blue Fin Tuna on my Newell Tuna Special I will propably pass out from elation. This is going to be so cool.

So, I'm covered for reels, and actually have all the rods that I would "need" (what a stupid word to use in a sport fishing conversation,) but if you had $200.00 and were going to buy one rod to be the most beneficial for this trip using a star drag reel what would it be?

Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on March 24, 2014, 06:40:58 PM
I'm going on a 2 1/2 day over Memorial Day weekend on the Pacific Voyager so should have a little better feel for likely conditions after that.  Last year on that trip we were catching 5-10# YT.  Hoping for better this year!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 24, 2014, 06:47:10 PM
Ron, don't worry we're behind you and will catch you with our invisible arms... ;) :D ;D

MarkT, hopefully i'll be in your neck of the woods no later than the 26th of May and go on a at least 3/4 day trip just to have a feeling for it (casting 101).
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 01:56:50 AM
OK, I have 2 Seeker 7' rods...1 is a black steel that is a 30-40 and the other is and old glass S870-7' (15-40#) and I need 1 more reel. Thoughts on a 30# star drag... Baja Special-Torium 20 or 30, or ??? I think the Torium has an available bearing for the bushing and can upgrade the drags...Any thoughts.

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on March 25, 2014, 02:20:49 AM
I can bring a Torium 16 or 20 or Penn 545 GS w/5.3 gears if you want to borrow one for 30#. I have a Calstar 765XL, Seeker Classic 670 and a 6465h if anyone needs a solid 30#, 40# or yoyo stick.  Lots more too including 2 PG 540's with 5 or 3.6 gears w/40# if anyone feels they're short of something or have problems traveling with some rods. I can bring an Ulua93H if anyone wants to throw 7X's on the jig stick. I can bring extra bass gear if anyone wants to give it a go.

I'm leaning towards a 25, 2x30, 2x40, 50, and a 6/0 for dropper loop or trolling and Lexa 300/400's for bass that can go on the 8' 25/30# rods.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 25, 2014, 04:26:50 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 01:56:50 AM
OK, I have 2 Seeker 7' rods...1 is a black steel that is a 30-40 and the other is and old glass S870-7' (15-40#) and I need 1 more reel. Thoughts on a 30# star drag... Baja Special-Torium 20 or 30, or ??? I think the Torium has an available bearing for the bushing and can upgrade the drags...Any thoughts.

Tim

You already have a 30# star drag. You posted earlier that you had a "...Okuma Catalina CT30C..." Have you swapped out the two non-CF washers and rebuilt with CF"s? If you plug in the ratings into the Accurate Line calcuator, it gives capacities of 516 yds of 50lb braid or 395 yds of 65lb braid. My CT-30C's holding (to best recollection) about 500yds of 50lb braid plus 10yds of 40lb mono topshot with 6ft of 40lb fluoro leader spliced on. Have fished it with 13lbs of drag and landed BFT schoolies. Going down to 10lbs drag for a 30lb setup is definitely doable on the CT-30C.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Porthos on March 25, 2014, 04:26:50 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 01:56:50 AM
OK, I have 2 Seeker 7' rods...1 is a black steel that is a 30-40 and the other is and old glass S870-7' (15-40#) and I need 1 more reel. Thoughts on a 30# star drag... Baja Special-Torium 20 or 30, or ??? I think the Torium has an available bearing for the bushing and can upgrade the drags...Any thoughts.

Tim

You already have a 30# star drag. You posted earlier that you had a "...Okuma Catalina CT30C..." Have you swapped out the two non-CF washers and rebuilt with CF"s? If you plug in the ratings into the Accurate Line calcuator, it gives capacities of 516 yds of 50lb braid or 395 yds of 65lb braid. My CT-30C's holding (to best recollection) about 500yds of 50lb braid plus 10yds of 40lb mono topshot with 6ft of 40lb fluoro leader spliced on. Have fished it with 13lbs of drag and landed BFT schoolies. Going down to 10lbs drag for a 30lb setup is definitely doable on the CT-30C.

I love my Catalina, but at 4:1 always considered it a bit slow for jigging, ect.. This is an old model and I think it actually has 3 non cf washers? Looks like a candidate for some upgrades...Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 25, 2014, 02:51:14 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 01:40:15 PMI love my Catalina, but at 4:1 always considered it a bit slow for jigging, ect.. This is an old model and I think it actually has 3 non cf washers? Looks like a candidate for some upgrades...Thanks for the input.

If you are going to put in the new drag washers, you also have the option of swapping out the 30C's main gear and pinion to the 30CS's 6.2:1. Check out the schematics at Mike's Reel Repair. The CT-30x's (and the CT-55x's) appeared to have been designed in a way so that a minor swap of the main and pinion gave Okuma another model in the lineup. I've ordered the CT-55C's 4:1 set to replace my CT-55N's 6.2:1 and it was $23 with $3 shipping from Okuma; suspect the cost of the 30CS parts would be about the same. 
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 11:12:27 PM
OH BOY! Home sick and bored...Made my decision to buy an old Penn reel to go with my old Seeker S870-7' rod and need it to be 30# class...I have a reel but thought going fishing with you guys I should at least try to bring something to the table...Found a couple of nice ol' skool 3/0 & jigmasters that would look nice on the maroon/white wrapping on my Seeker..My thoughts are a basic list of upgrades and mods that don't require a bunch of machining or too much thinking for a beginner...I'm sure this is the wrong thread to list this under but those who know will help direct me to the right place.....My first thought is a vintage jigmaster??? But do like the old 3/0's...Input and then when I buy the reel I will ask for more help..I'm thinking drag upgrade & gear ratio upgrade and possibly spool & frame as well...Want to keep it under $200 total as I can buy a new reel for less than that.

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 25, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 11:12:27 PM
OH BOY! Home sick and bored...Made my decision to buy an old Penn reel to go with my old Seeker S870-7' rod and need it to be 30# class...I have a reel but thought going fishing with you guys I should at least try to bring something to the table...Found a couple of nice ol' skool 3/0 & jigmasters that would look nice on the maroon/white wrapping on my Seeker..My thoughts are a basic list of upgrades and mods that don't require a bunch of machining or too much thinking for a beginner...I'm sure this is the wrong thread to list this under but those who know will help direct me to the right place.....My first thought is a vintage jigmaster??? But do like the old 3/0's...Input and then when I buy the reel I will ask for more help..I'm thinking drag upgrade & gear ratio upgrade and possibly spool & frame as well...Want to keep it under $200 total as I can buy a new reel for less than that.

Tim

Jigmaster or 112H, under $200 is close to putting together a 112HN.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 25, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 11:12:27 PM
OH BOY! Home sick and bored...Made my decision to buy an old Penn reel to go with my old Seeker S870-7' rod and need it to be 30# class...I have a reel but thought going fishing with you guys I should at least try to bring something to the table...Found a couple of nice ol' skool 3/0 & jigmasters that would look nice on the maroon/white wrapping on my Seeker..My thoughts are a basic list of upgrades and mods that don't require a bunch of machining or too much thinking for a beginner...I'm sure this is the wrong thread to list this under but those who know will help direct me to the right place.....My first thought is a vintage jigmaster??? But do like the old 3/0's...Input and then when I buy the reel I will ask for more help..I'm thinking drag upgrade & gear ratio upgrade and possibly spool & frame as well...Want to keep it under $200 total as I can buy a new reel for less than that.

Tim

Jigmaster or 112H, under $200 is close to putting together a 112HN.

Lee: Less is better, but for sure want a better footing..Never done this before, but I do like older things working again. Is there that much difference i the drags or are they same?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 26, 2014, 12:01:01 AM
The Jigmaster and 112H use the same gears and drag stack.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: LTM on March 26, 2014, 01:25:26 AM
Whats the word Im looking for? Ah yes, "professional overun" (learned this here). Wonder what this post would look like for a 10 day trip, now thats where you need a variety of tackle.

Enjoy,

Leo
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 26, 2014, 01:46:35 AM
On my first 10 day we used our 50's most of the time.  I came home with 2 cow YFT, a lot of other large YFT and is little wahoo.


(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Fish/WahooSM.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Fish/WahooSM.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 26, 2014, 01:48:19 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 23, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
guys, don't go with too much gear.  figure a 60-80 pound dropper loop rig, two 50's, two 40's, two 30's and a bass rod.   

Would a Curado 200 be a good choice for a bass reel?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on March 26, 2014, 02:11:08 AM
it should be fine. 
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: LTM on March 26, 2014, 05:04:33 AM
Mel and company,

This would be a great trip for a Penn 750ss and a 650ss both with braid backing. The 650ss with a topshot of 20/25# for those Calico's at Cedros/Guadalupe would be a BLAST (also jigging to some yellowtails) and the 750ss on some Tuna and large Yellow tail with some poppers should be THRILLING!!!  IM NOT SAYING BRING THIS IN ADDITION but as substitutes to what you were thinking of bringing (maybe as the second 40/25# rigs).

Just a thought,

Leo
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 26, 2014, 05:06:34 AM
I have a 750SS worked over by Sal and me (my SS parts) but I don't have a spinning rod.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: LTM on March 26, 2014, 05:50:17 AM
Quote from: Keta on March 26, 2014, 05:06:34 AM
I have a 750SS worked over by Sal and me (my SS parts) but I don't have a spinning rod.
Lee,

I couldnt help but laugh out loud!.  You got time to have a rod built!

Leo
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 26, 2014, 06:09:25 AM
I have 5 rods I have put on hold.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 26, 2014, 11:22:04 AM
Leo

if you go to page one a spinner is on my tentative list. it's probably too much for calicos but it's what i have. i might bring my other spinner (top w/ 40-50#) for poppers/sticks if i find a matching rod before the trip.

as mentioned before i have no on the boat saltwater experience, so this is a chance for me to try things. hopefully, with the arsenal i'm bringing, i'll get at least one fish on the deck. here i always tell people i'm having fun while fishing but happier when i catch and release at least one.


Lee,

time is on your hands.  :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 26, 2014, 04:36:50 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 25, 2014, 11:12:27 PM
I'm thinking drag upgrade & gear ratio upgrade and possibly spool & frame as well...Want to keep it under $200 total as I can buy a new reel for less than that.

Tim

Tim

highly recommended, Alan T.'s SS sleeve and handle  Bryan's 5+1 kit  SS dog/s  Keta's Krank and a bigger star, you won't regret it. and IMHO the frame can wait. :)

i have all these recommendations + more on my 112H. can't help replying to this... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 26, 2014, 05:37:45 PM
Listen to Mel brother, he knows what he is talking about.

The 112H and the Jigmaster have the same gears, so if you are looking for speed the 3/0 will retrieve more line per crank. You should be able to do all of Mels recommended mods on a good reel and be in it for a little more than half of your $200.00. Fill that thing with 30 pound mono and you are all set.

Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 26, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 26, 2014, 05:06:34 AM
I have a 750SS worked over by Sal and me (my SS parts) but I don't have a spinning rod.

I'll be bringing one of these:
http://www.daiwa.com/rod/detail.aspx?id=446&parentid=445

Priced affordably:
http://www.meltontackle.com/products/daiwa-saltist-boat-spinning-rods.html
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on March 26, 2014, 05:37:45 PM
Listen to Mel brother, he knows what he is talking about.

The 112H and the Jigmaster have the same gears, so if you are looking for speed the 3/0 will retrieve more line per crank. You should be able to do all of Mels recommended mods on a good reel and be in it for a little more than half of your $200.00. Fill that thing with 30 pound mono and you are all set.

Ron

OK boys, I'm all in...Found a real nice old 112H. Most likely paid a few bucks to much but I liked what I saw...Now how do I get all these parts you speak of Mel, Ron, Keta, Alan,ect..

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 26, 2014, 09:41:55 PM
Tim,

just PM Alan T. for SS sleeve and handle(i have a 4/0)  Bryan Young for the 5+1 kit  Keta for kranks and SS dogs. as for a bigger star i have a 10-505BS ($4.45) from pennparts, if you can wait till the end of May i'll order it for you together with some other parts i need for my reels. :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 26, 2014, 09:50:23 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on March 26, 2014, 05:37:45 PM
Listen to Mel brother, he knows what he is talking about.

The 112H and the Jigmaster have the same gears, so if you are looking for speed the 3/0 will retrieve more line per crank. You should be able to do all of Mels recommended mods on a good reel and be in it for a little more than half of your $200.00. Fill that thing with 30 pound mono and you are all set.

Ron

OK boys, I'm all in...Found a real nice old 112H. Most likely paid a few bucks to much but I liked what I saw...Now how do I get all these parts you speak of Mel, Ron, Keta, Alan,ect..

Tim

Alan should have some 15-309 AR dogs you can order as a kit with the gear sleeve, if not I have several.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 09:51:40 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 26, 2014, 09:41:55 PM
Tim,

just PM Alan T. for SS sleeve and handle(i have a 4/0)  Bryan Young for the 5+1 kit  Keta for kranks and SS dogs. as for a bigger star i have a 10-505BS ($4.45) from pennparts, if you can wait till the end of May i'll order it for you together with some other parts i need for my reels. :)

Mel: Will do...As far as the star goes just order with your stuff. It wont take much to change later & I can pay when you order or you can bring it on the trip with you?

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 26, 2014, 09:52:16 PM
You will also need a small tub of Cal's drag grease, a marine grease and an oil. Everyone has their favorites when it comes to grease and oil, for your reel I would recomend the Penn maintenance pack with their grease and oil. The kit has enough to maintain several reels and only costs a few bucks.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 26, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 09:51:40 PM

Mel: Will do...As far as the star goes just order with your stuff. It wont take much to change later & I can pay when you order or you can bring it on the trip with you?

Tim

sounds good...

Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 10:00:54 PM
what about the drag kit...Here or ebay? I see alot of cf drag kits online
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 26, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Alan or directly from Dawn at Smooth Drag.  Dawn is fast and easy to deal with.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Bryan Young on March 26, 2014, 10:05:30 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 10:00:54 PM
what about the drag kit...Here or ebay? I see alot of cf drag kits online

Drag kits for what reel?

If you are referring to carbon fiber drag replacements, I'd order directly from Dawn at SmoothDrag.

If you are looking for drag upgrades for your Penn reels that use a 5-60 gears, 113, 113H, 114H, 115L, Jigmasters, I have sets available.  I also have sets available for every type of Newell reel available.  See http://alantani.com/index.php?board=62.0

Bryan
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 26, 2014, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 10:00:54 PM
what about the drag kit...Here or ebay? I see alot of cf drag kits online

Bryan Young's 5+1 is a drag kit, metal and CF washers...sorry i should have been more specific.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 26, 2014, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 10:00:54 PM
what about the drag kit...Here or ebay? I see alot of cf drag kits online

Bryan Young's 5+1 is a drag kit, metal and CF washers...sorry i should have been more specific.

Bryan: I want these...First ever modified reel...Penn 112H

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 26, 2014, 10:11:55 PM
Tim,
Your reel has the same drag as the Jigmaster. Everything I hear about Bryan's kit is that it is awesome.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 26, 2014, 10:12:35 PM
You will be happy you did this.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 10:14:32 PM
I'm getting geeked up just talking about it!!! I see 5.0:1 gears online as well? Do I need to do anything special for that? I here you need to drill the pinion and enlarge the the groove a bit to fit the plate?

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 26, 2014, 10:56:25 PM
Tim,

i have Alan C.'s (Pro Challenger) 5:1 SS main and pinion gears in my 112H. it's not highly recommended if you are not going to push the drag to >15 lbs. but at the end of the day it's up to you... :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 11:00:58 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 26, 2014, 10:56:25 PM
Tim,

i have Alan C.'s (Pro Challenger) 5:1 SS main and pinion gears in my 112H. it's not highly recommended if you are not going to push the drag to >15 lbs. but at the end of the day it's up to you... :)

Thanks Mel...I will most likely pass on the gears? The 112H is narrower than the jigmaster and should get a higher rate of retrieve anyway.

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 26, 2014, 11:22:24 PM
Spool diameter will change retrieve but spool width will not.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 11:26:32 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 26, 2014, 11:22:24 PM
Spool diameter will change retrieve but spool width will not.

Keta: I should have said narrower & taller..I got lots to learn...Thank you
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 26, 2014, 11:38:07 PM
While I am waiting on Alan's 5:1 gears for my Jigmasters, my 3/0 sized reel will stay 4:1 with steel gears. It has worked for many, many people for decades.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 27, 2014, 10:45:38 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 26, 2014, 11:00:58 PM

...The 112H is narrower than the jigmaster and should get a higher rate of retrieve anyway.

Tim

and/or crank it faster... :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 27, 2014, 11:09:04 PM
Mel: If none of that works, we will just use my backup

(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/a33c3edf-95be-47b0-adc1-1f28bbc1e4ab_zpsa371ffba.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/a33c3edf-95be-47b0-adc1-1f28bbc1e4ab_zpsa371ffba.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 27, 2014, 11:49:30 PM
sweet! 2SP HX? on my list to buy for next yr's SDLR trip. is the rod a 765 series?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 28, 2014, 12:09:48 AM
Quote from: Mel B on March 27, 2014, 11:49:30 PM
sweet! 2SP HX? on my list to buy for next yr's SDLR trip. is the rod a 765 series?

Yup...Hx 5/2 ... The rod is a Rainshadow composite 40-80...A guy in Indiana makes them & was advertising them as a west coast rail rod. I asked if he would make a blacked out version and he asked if he could add some extras for free and market the blacked out version...Of coarse I told him he could add all the freebie's he wanted  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 28, 2014, 12:34:24 AM
I've never fished this style fishing...
but that is one sweet looking 'backup' combo!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 28, 2014, 01:18:20 AM
Tim, are you going to troll with this combo? I've decided not to bring my MAK 20 because Alan T. will bring, i think, 5 combos for trolling duties.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 28, 2014, 01:34:02 AM
Quote from: Mel B on March 28, 2014, 01:18:20 AM
Tim, are you going to troll with this combo? I've decided not to bring my MAK 20 because Alan T. will bring, i think, 5 combos for trolling duties.

Mel: I think we could troll this??? It's 7' but has a long butt for rail fishing. Also I scored a 30 year old Daiwa SLT30 and a great deal on a G. Loomis 60-100 all roller to troll...I would have never sold all my other custom gear and Lamiglas stuff that I had and upgraded to what I have now if my original plans were to go on this trip...I was on another trip and my friends business pulled their sponsorship & his free ride! So by divine intervention I found you guys!!! How luck can a guy get ;D ;D ;D



This was to be my trolling reel:
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/c6cb71b0-8f83-42e7-908f-71858c561f5f_zps9b6bb113.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/c6cb71b0-8f83-42e7-908f-71858c561f5f_zps9b6bb113.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 28, 2014, 02:03:41 AM
Tim, luck is also on our side for having you here... :)  yeah that's the reel you recently worked on huh? and also things happen for a reason...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: joel8080 on March 28, 2014, 02:15:21 AM
Tim

I have the same reel with the original teak handle bought from Minervia's at Carbo San Lucas in 1985 still have it and it's a great reel just a little heavy.

Joel

Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 28, 2014, 02:28:39 AM
Quote from: joel8080 on March 28, 2014, 02:15:21 AM
Tim

I have the same reel with the original teak handle bought from Minervia's at Carbo San Lucas in 1985 still have it and it's a great reel just a little heavy.

Joel




Joel:The words are "Boat Anchor" SEXY AS HE@% though & with a Alan T. handle ... This reel is how I found this site! Very cool story.

Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 29, 2014, 12:33:53 AM
is the CARBW765L good dropper loop ???
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on March 29, 2014, 04:17:08 AM
It's Penn's take on the Calstar Grafighter 765L in their Carnage lineup. I'd guess it's probably good for 40-50#. I have a Seeker 6465H in that line class that I've used for 50#.  I caught the YT in my avatar pic on it.  I've since moved on to a Phenix 700XH for this year.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 29, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: MarkT on March 29, 2014, 04:17:08 AM
...Phenix 700XH for this year.

i need/want at least 3 more rods and it's on my list of rods to buy. but at the same time if i can use my 765L for a 60# dropper loop then i don't neet to buy a lot of rods. i'm also thinking of renting the rods i need. but at the same time if it's expensive i'm better off buying. 

thanks much!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on March 29, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 29, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
i need/want at least 3 more rods and it's on my list of rods to buy. but at the same time if i can use my 765L for a 60# dropper loop then i don't neet to buy a lot of rods. i'm also thinking of renting the rods i need. but at the same time if it's expensive i'm better off buying. 

thanks much!

Jedi powers are telling me that there's going to be plenty of gear on board without the need to rent. Just bring the 765L and not worry about it...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 29, 2014, 12:44:47 PM
Quote from: Porthos on March 29, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Jedi powers are telling me that there's going to be plenty of gear on board without the need to rent. Just bring the 765L and not worry about it...

true...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 29, 2014, 03:00:13 PM
I have more than enough 6'6"-7' 40# rods if you need to borrow one.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on March 29, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
guys, don't spend money on rods and reels for this trip.  there will be plenty of gear.  get an assortment of 1/0, 3/0 and 5/0 hooks, maybe some a few 4, 8 and 12 ounce sinkers, some 30, 40 and 50 pound fluoro leader if you want, and a goofy straw hat.  you could literally board with a shaving kit and clothes for the week and do just fine.  don't forget plenty of sunscreen.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on March 29, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 29, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
....and a goofy straw hat. 

I have that covered. 

I don't do sunscreen but I avoid over exposure.  I live at high altitude and have learned how to avoid nasty sunburn in the last 60 or so years.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 29, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 29, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
...and a goofy straw hat...

may i board without this... ;D ;D ;D  on a serious note do you a have a rod, 30-60/80, for sale? or anyone for that matter. thanks much!  oops! forgot about the Want to Buy, Borrow or Trade Board.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 29, 2014, 04:32:43 PM
Alan I wish I had found this site before I spent all that $$$ on gear, but at least me and my sons will have nice gear to fish with for many years to come ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 29, 2014, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 29, 2014, 03:00:13 PM
I have more than enough 6'6"-7' 40# rods if you need to borrow one.

Lee, thanks much! but my concern is putting it mildly "THINGS HAPPEN".
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on March 29, 2014, 05:02:30 PM
I've got a nice 765xl you can use if your 765L needs a little brother. I've got a Seeker CJB65H that J.AkuHed wrapped me for my birthday years ago that's nice for 40# too. Randy at Seeker said it was the closest you'd get to a classic 865xh in a composite rod.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on March 29, 2014, 05:04:39 PM
man! am i glad i'm an Ohana member. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Norcal Pescador on March 29, 2014, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: Mel B on March 29, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 29, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
...and a goofy straw hat...

may i board without this... ;D ;D ;D  on a serious note do you a have a rod, 30-60/80, for sale? or anyone for that matter. thanks much!  oops! forgot about the Want to Buy, Borrow or Trade Board.

I have a Penn Senator (30-60# 6-1/2 ft.) rod never been fished. It's matched up to a 113H with 40# mono and I plan to sell both individually or together at the end of the trip. I'd like to try my full-modded 113H before I say goodbye to it. Anyone is welcome to try whatever I'm not using at the moment.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 29, 2014, 08:17:51 PM
Alan & Bryan: Parts arrived today ;D ;D ;D thank you...Few more pieces to the puzzle next week, then I build my 112H...Most likely will need help.

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 31, 2014, 10:23:09 PM
OK, so now I've done this...What is my next step? My thinking is a Beer ;D ;D ;D

Actually: Brake cleaner or Carb cleaner?

Tim
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_1974_zps89c72852.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_1974_zps89c72852.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 31, 2014, 11:18:04 PM
I'd say,
Wire brush with grease, elbow grease, 5+1 kit from Bryan, a stainless gear sleeve and some TSI. One of Alan's handles wouldn't hurt.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on March 31, 2014, 11:23:42 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on March 31, 2014, 11:18:04 PM
I'd say,
Wire brush with grease, elbow grease, 5+1 kit from Bryan, a stainless gear sleeve and some TSI. One of Alan's handles wouldn't hurt.
Ron

Ron I have all those parts already & the brush...TSI ... gun cleaner? I may have that too...I have 2 cans of brake cleaner in the garage and figure that to be the safest?
Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on March 31, 2014, 11:34:27 PM
TSI is a lubricant that is popular with guys on here. I know some guys use gun cleaner but brake cleaner works great.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on April 01, 2014, 02:49:49 AM
according to the guys as TSI, the us secret service uses tsi 321 and the aerosol for their service weapons. 
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Norcal Pescador on April 01, 2014, 03:51:38 AM
Alan -

I know you said more than once not to go out and buy a bunch of stuff, but sometime could you post a list of what has worked before so if we have it we can bring it? A list might include colors and patterns of irons, plastics, trolling lures; and terminal tackle, etc. You have already mentioned hooks, sinkers, 30-40-50 pound rigs, but having it all in one place would help. Right now, I'm using the Spirit of Adventure list and your previous info as a starting point.

http://www.spiritofadventurefishing.com/news/fishing-tackle

Thanks,

Rob
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on April 01, 2014, 04:26:29 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 29, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
guys, don't spend money on rods and reels for this trip.  there will be plenty of gear.  get an assortment of 1/0, 3/0 and 5/0 hooks, maybe some a few 4, 8 and 12 ounce sinkers, some 30, 40 and 50 pound fluoro leader if you want, and a goofy straw hat.  you could literally board with a shaving kit and clothes for the week and do just fine.  don't forget plenty of sunscreen.

Come on Alan, we like to fish because it gives us an excuse to buy more gear.  Why do think we come to your site? We're seriously dedicated, although our wives may have another term for it! My wife certainly did but then she was a "seriously dedicated" Springsteen fan.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on April 01, 2014, 04:38:26 AM
Irons: Salas 7x and Tady 45 are good surface irons. Bird #### (Sardine) and mint are good colors.  Salas 6x and 6x jr for yoyo. Blue/white and scrambled egg are good colors.

Plastics for Calicos.  1oz lead heads with 5-7" swimbaits in bait colors.  I like Warbait lead heads and MC swimbaits.

I'll be bringing Megabaits, WaxWings, slashbaits too.  All the usual stuff in my tacklebag.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: maxpowers on April 01, 2014, 05:17:06 AM
some megabaits would be good too.  Been on too many trip when a guy have drop them deep and hooked up with either tuna or opah.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on April 01, 2014, 05:38:30 AM
Opah!
Hadn't thought of that, they may be around. Never caught one of them but LOVE eating them!!
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on April 01, 2014, 07:04:33 AM
this may be a little too much info for some, but others have never been on one of these boats.

the evening routine - at the end of the day, you stink!  you've gotta shower.  likely 4 of the 5 nights the boat will be on the run.  three of the four heads have showers so we will all have time to shower.  i wear flipflops into the shower, but i also take time to wipe down the floor with the t-shirt that wore that day to clean up a little.  you will need the usual floss, toothbrush and tooth paste, bar soap, shampoo, wash cloth and a bath towel or two.  i always wear jeans when i fish and will wear the same pair of jeans all week.  all the rest of the clothes that i wore that day will get tossed into the trash.  once i change into my jammies, it's cocktail hour, then off to bed.  

getting some sleep - the cabins are small.  decide between you and your cabinmate who gets the top bunk and who gets bottom.  the cabins are also cold.  they are air conditioned and it's hard to regulate.  some guys tape off the vents a little.  i wear a sweatshirt at night, but you will have extra blankets and pillows in each cabin.  somewhere, within easy reach, you should keep your glasses and a flashlight in case there is an emergency overnight.  when i sleep, i use wax ear plugs.  don't forget a small alarm clock.  if you have trouble sleeping in your cabin for any reason, you always have the option of sleeping in the galley.   someone always does that.  if you go out onto the deck at night, stay away from the rail.  don't try to puke or pee over the rail.  the deckhands can always wash the deck later.  we do not want anyone going overboard.  

wake up call - get up, get dressed, eat something, slather on the sunscreen and the chapstick, find a hat and get ready to fish.  dean and danny will have breakfast going, but you also have your choice of fresh fruits and cereals.  our first and fourth fishing days will likely start out trolling.  our second and third fishing days will hopefully be at cedros, which means jig and live bait fishing.  lunches and dinners will also be first call, second call and last call.  we will have slow times during the day to practice your knots, rerig or just kick back a little.

gearing up for the day - sunscreen, and lots of it.  a wide brimmed hat and sun glasses.  i always wear jeans to keep my legs from burning.  shoes are always a question.  my feet cook in xtra-tufs and they make me miserable.  i have old running shoes and i just do my best to try to keep my feet dry,  the deck gets bloody and the crew is constantly out with a hose to wash away the blood and slime.  you will get wet.  with flipflops, your feet will burn and could get cut up.  with sneakers or deck shoes, your feet will get wet.  and with xtra-tufs, your feet will cook.  i sometimes use a gimble belt and it's nice because it holds my needle nose pliers and wire cutters.  and i always carry a pocket knife.  

rods and reels - i'd recommend a pair of 30 pound rigs, a pair of 40 pound rigs, a pair of 50 pound rigs and maybe a 60.  if you want to bring an 80 pound troller instead, that's fine, but i will have 5 trolling rigs for us.  you can also bring a 20 pound rig for calicos if you wish.  we may or may not get a chance to use it.  your "go to" rig will be your 40 pound set up.  i will be bringing plenty of extra rods and reels, and will likely be setting them up once i see the bait we are getting and have a chance to talk to the captain about the fishing that we can anticipate.  

terminal tackle - bring 1/0, 3/0 and 5/0 live bait hooks.  i like ringed owner flyliners.  you can also use circle hooks, but circle hooks are hard on my blood pressure.  1/0. 3/0 and 5/0 circles are fine.  we won't need that many swivels but i will bring my crimping kit in case we need to rig any trolling leaders, and there is always a wide assortment of jigs that we all have.  

line - you can bring leader material in mono or fluoro.  i have some soft steel monofilament from tony garza that i used last year.  good stuff.  i also have berkely big game, some fluoro left over, some jb hollow spectra, some solid spectra and some of alan chui's hollow thunder.  i'm likely not going to bring the winder.  your reels should be strung up before you board.  we only have monday to rig up.  the next four days will be spend fishing!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on April 01, 2014, 07:20:59 AM
Reading this is driving my crazy!! June, gget here already!!
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: maxpowers on April 01, 2014, 07:34:22 AM
I may be on a 2 days trip prior (coming in on Sunday June 15).  Either way I planned on making a bunch of 30, 40, 50 and 60 pounds wind-ons with about 20-30 feet of Berkeley big games and 60 lbs hollowcore.  Will meet up with you all on Sunday and leave it for you guys to try if you like.  If I can't make it to the 2 days trip or can't come down that Sunday, if someone is driving through Orange County, just give me a holler and I can meet up with you to hand over the wind-ons.  They have been tested on batrays up to 50+ inches wing span and held up fine.

Mike
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 01, 2014, 11:38:56 AM
found this at BD, Erik Landesfeind recommendation. i am hoping this will work at our trip. my rod and reel combos are not the same as his but the lure recommendation is what most of the anglers use in Southern California.

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/article/spring-yellowtail-tackle/

btw my reels are 3/0 4/0 and at least one spinner. :) :) :)

Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 01, 2014, 01:31:34 PM
I knew it!!! I should NOT have looked at this page prior to going to work....I have to drive to Modesto and my brain is already spinning...TADY, SALAS, 1/0, 2/0, 3/0, 30,40,50,60, FLOURO, MONO!!!!

IS IT JUNE YET ;D ;D ;D ;D

HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!

BIG TIM
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on April 01, 2014, 04:03:09 PM
how is fishing like a craps game? 

at the casino, the best bet in the house is to play craps.  you play the pass line and take odds.  that's it.  nothing else.  that's it!

but if all you do is play the pass line and take odds, then craps is the most boring game in the entire world.  everyone around you is placing bets, taking big 6 or big 8, or the worst sucker bet of all, playing the field.  and here you are, playing it save and patient, on the pass line and taking odds.  this long range fishing stuff is the same.  nothing produces better than soaking a live bait.  but if that's all you do, long range fishing is nothing but hours of boredom, and if you're lucky a half dozen 10 minute bursts of sheer terror, while you are watching people around you hooking up on jigs, or plunking, or doing something else just to change it up.  and here you are, soaking that damned bait! 

but if you do that, and you are dilligent, if you listen to the deckhands and do what they say, if your gear is in good shape and if you can cast, your pile of fish will be the biggest at the end of the trip. 

oh, wait.  we're not giving out numbers!  ok, go spend as much money as you want!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 01, 2014, 07:09:02 PM
Quote from: alantani on April 01, 2014, 04:03:09 PM
...oh, wait.  we're not giving out numbers!...

that's why i'm on this trip... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 02, 2014, 11:29:18 PM
Calico Bass set up for SOA trip...Thank you Alan, Bryan for the parts...I really appreciate all the support ;D ;D ;D


From this:
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_1974_zps89c72852.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_1974_zps89c72852.jpg.html)

To this:
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_1983_zps038de64d.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_1983_zps038de64d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 02, 2014, 11:34:00 PM
nice! is that a 349 handle?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on April 02, 2014, 11:34:33 PM
That will certainatly work for calicos, but it would be a perfectly acceptable yellowtail rig also.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Aiala on April 02, 2014, 11:35:50 PM
Beautiful set-up, Big Tim!

Meantime, I see that you upgraded the handle... any chance you might be interested in selling that old one with the amber knob? If so, PM me.   :)

~A~
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 02, 2014, 11:41:46 PM
Quote from: Mel B on April 02, 2014, 11:34:00 PM
nice! is that a 349 handle?

I think Alan said it was a Jigmaster power handle...Has 3 holes & not being an expert at all I think the 349 has 2?

Ron: I hope it can catch yellowtail as well ;D ;D ;D

Big Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on April 03, 2014, 12:28:21 AM
The 349 uses the 113H gear sleeve. I think the number for that handle is 24-56.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on April 03, 2014, 12:45:43 AM
Quote from: Aiala on April 02, 2014, 11:35:50 PM
Beautiful set-up, Big Tim!

Meantime, I see that you upgraded the handle... any chance you might be interested in selling that old one with the amber knob? If so, PM me.   :)

~A~

You beat me too it, that's my favorite handle.

Quote from: noyb72 on April 03, 2014, 12:28:21 AM
The 349 uses the 113H gear sleeve. I think the number for that handle is 24-56.
Ron

The 349/113H uses either a 24-113H or a 24-349, the 24-56 is for the smaller gear sleeve.  The 2 hole one is a 24-349.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 04, 2014, 09:41:11 AM
from what i've been reading at the other board, the chovies are back. in case we are going to toss this bait what rods are suitable/recommended? only thing i know about the rod is it has to be long, at least 8'. as for the reels these are what i'm thinking of bringing; squidder 146 P220F FTH12 TOR-16 400BSV SX and maybe my tom hryniuk's squidder. not decided yet on which to bring... ??? ::) :D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on April 04, 2014, 02:03:01 PM
Standard 'chovies are no problem with 25-30#.  Micro, 2 eyes and a wiggle Anchovies are another thing, but I've caught Albies on 25# and a #6 hook with them too.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: maxpowers on April 04, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
I have heard of people using cast-a-bubble to send those no-see-ums out to the zone.  May want to load up on some since they are super cheap.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 04, 2014, 02:17:08 PM
had to google cast-a-bubble. in here in brasil where i fish we use "boias"=float made of foam and lead for the weight. do you think 40 grams is too heavy for chovies? thanks much!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: maxpowers on April 04, 2014, 02:57:19 PM
Mel,

Just pick up the cast -a  - bubble when you get to the US.  Any Walmart, etc.. will have it for like 2 for $1 or so.  The nice thing about the cast - a - bubble is the ability to change the casting weight by adding water and the bubble will slide up your line to allow the bait to swim away.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 04, 2014, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: maxpowers on April 04, 2014, 02:57:19 PM
...Just pick up the cast -a  - bubble when you get to the US...

sounds good...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on April 04, 2014, 08:40:28 PM
Cast a bubbles are commonly used for trout fishing.  Slide one on the line, tie on a swivel and a couple feet of leader, tie on a #18 treble hook, add some powerbait and you're good to go.  Fill it with water and cast away!

A one oz chrome torpedo sinker in line works with little chovies too.  I've caught a lot with small bait and the little torpedo.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: maxpowers on April 04, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
We used the cast -a - bubble for spin flyfishing or fishing a feather for bonito.  The splash created by the bubble sounds like fleeing bait fish.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on April 04, 2014, 10:36:48 PM
sliding sinkers can be nice, or just a torpedo sinker on a rubber band.  generally you want to keep the bait down under the water so the birds don't grab them.  bubbles or floats would be counterproductive.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Aiala on April 04, 2014, 10:43:32 PM
I like light rubbercores; they get the bait down, but not like an express train.  :)

~A~
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Bryan Young on April 04, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
Can you bring a slingshot to shoot those pesky birds?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on April 04, 2014, 11:47:38 PM
Apples work, notice the green one headed for a direct hit on the third bird from the right, it's blocking the fourth bird from the right.  the birds were "painting" our tackle boxes.

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/09RRIII034.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/09RRIII034.jpg.html)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/09RRIII035.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/09RRIII035.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on April 04, 2014, 11:54:15 PM
you can, but please check in the the crew to make sure it's ok with them.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: SoCalAngler on April 05, 2014, 07:40:19 AM
Just be careful if you use egg/sliding sinkers, these can cause tangles if you don't stay in touch with your bait. The sinker slides down the line but your bait may be much higher in the water swimming in the wrong direction wrapping other lines and you'll never know it, well that is until you get bit and you have seven other lines with you.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on April 05, 2014, 07:47:12 AM
yeah, i never use them. 
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 05, 2014, 11:32:25 AM
if worse comes to worst, i'll just use poppers/stick baits surface and yoyo irons...  :) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 05, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
I need someone smarter than me...should be easy ;D  OK I have a vintage Daiwa SLT30 2 speed with canvas drags epoxied to the drag plate
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/445354a6-2740-434a-a3a0-625d4d2502fd_zps9fb23cbb.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/445354a6-2740-434a-a3a0-625d4d2502fd_zps9fb23cbb.jpg.html)

These are too thick...My best guess is 2mm would work. Dawn at Smooth Drag says she has nothing that thick and most likely the glue would penetrate the fibers. I found carbon fiber plate .06" thick (close) and one side is matte and the other is gloss. My thinking is that I could use the adhesive on the gloss side and customize my own carbon fiber drag washer ? And then I need to find someone to cut into 2 7/8" O.D. x 1 5/8" I.D.  ...  Your thoughts...Would like to try this for the SOA trip.

Tim

link to material: http://www.rockwestcomposites.com/products/402-612
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on April 05, 2014, 06:52:43 PM
I can have the parts cut but will need the original parts to do the drawings.  The gloss side can be contoured with a bead blaster to improve adhesion.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 05, 2014, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: Keta on April 05, 2014, 06:52:43 PM
I can have the parts cut but will need the original parts to do the drawings.  The gloss side can be contoured with a bead blaster to improve adhesion.

I am going to remove one washer and leave one intact & could send it all to you
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 05, 2014, 08:02:14 PM
Tim,

i don't think these is the CF you need, but then again i maybe wrong. there was a discussion regarding this type of carbon fiber and i don't remember which thread, sorry. i used to buy carbon fiber chassis for my RC cars and it was cut from this type. here's what you want;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fiber-Drag-Sheet-Fishing-Reel-Upgrade-/121243650722?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item1c3aaf4aa2

he doesn't have the size you want but maybe he can get exactly what you need. i bought some sheets from him and if my memory serves me right, Sal(Alto Mare) and Daron(Sharkhunter) also bought from him. also pm wallace he's also selling CF sheets...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 06, 2014, 01:34:22 AM
Quote from: Mel B on April 05, 2014, 08:02:14 PM
Tim,

i don't think these is the CF you need, but then again i maybe wrong. there was a discussion regarding this type of carbon fiber and i don't remember which thread, sorry. i used to buy carbon fiber chassis for my RC cars and it was cut from this type. here's what you want;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fiber-Drag-Sheet-Fishing-Reel-Upgrade-/121243650722?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item1c3aaf4aa2

he doesn't have the size you want but maybe he can get exactly what you need. i bought some sheets from him and if my memory serves me right, Sal(Alto Mare) and Daron(Sharkhunter) also bought from him. also pm wallace he's also selling CF sheets...

Mel, you are right , but that material isn't 2mm thick, that being said I sent a similar link in an email to the company in Utah and 1 on the east coast in hopes to get a response early next week to see if they have that style in 2mm. I won't purchase any until I'm relatively sure it will work.

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on April 06, 2014, 01:58:06 AM
If I'm not cornfused you were going to cut the plates out of the material below, not the friction surfaces, and glue the CF drag material to it.  Am I wrong?  The material below will not work for a friction surface.

http://www.rockwestcomposites.com/products/402-612 (http://www.rockwestcomposites.com/products/402-612)

(http://www.rockwestcomposites.com/system/images/87/original/Resin%20Infused%20Plate%20Snip%20(550%20wide)%20v2.jpg?1390869500)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 06, 2014, 03:07:47 AM
Quote from: Keta on April 06, 2014, 01:58:06 AM
If I'm not cornfused you were going to cut the plates out of the material below, not the friction surfaces, and glue the CF drag material to it.  Am I wrong?  The material below will not work for a friction surface.

http://www.rockwestcomposites.com/products/402-612 (http://www.rockwestcomposites.com/products/402-612)

(http://www.rockwestcomposites.com/system/images/87/original/Resin%20Infused%20Plate%20Snip%20(550%20wide)%20v2.jpg?1390869500)

Keta: Like Mel, you are right...After a bit more investigating I emailed them about the type of material I needed in hopes to locate the right stuff...So far I have found 1.4mm and maybe will need some shim stock to get the right thickness. I won't buy anything until I know it has a good chance of working.

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: sundaytrucka on April 08, 2014, 05:42:29 AM
Can I admit I am upset you guys have not put up pics of your gear for the trip.

I cannot wait for the pics after the trip.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Mandelstam on April 08, 2014, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: sundaytrucka on April 08, 2014, 05:42:29 AM
Can I admit I am upset you guys have not put up pics of your gear for the trip.

I cannot wait for the pics after the trip.

X2!

We want pics! Some nice juicy gear pron! :D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 10, 2014, 08:58:26 PM
PICS, coming soon or later... :D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 10, 2014, 09:43:46 PM
OK...Mel knows what I've been working on as far as GEAR for the trip... I am an eBay whore & at least I admit to that problem ... I wheel and deal...I picked up a never used G. Loomis all roller rod for a deal & sold it for a profit, so that I could purchase something fitting for a 30 year old trolling reel...Christmas today ;D ;D ;D It's amazing what you can do for very little money when you put your mind to it.

(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_1994_zpsdf718486.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_1994_zpsdf718486.jpg.html)
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_1995_zps194e0483.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_1995_zps194e0483.jpg.html)
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_1997_zps7bb32345.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_1997_zps7bb32345.jpg.html)
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_1998_zpsebc44b0e.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_1998_zpsebc44b0e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Lensters on April 10, 2014, 09:57:56 PM
You got a pretty good price but I'm always looking for rock bottom deals, that's how you out bid me. ;)

Not too much decent fishing gear going really cheap now, just boxes of parts and such.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 11, 2014, 01:00:03 PM
in preparation for the trip, here's a preview;

2 of the reels(SX n MXJ) i'll most probably bring, with extra bearings soaking in TSI 301 and reel's external moving parts being drizzled with 321(my corrosion X is in L.A.);

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s410/flipmlb/DSCN4249_zpsef7595f1.jpg) (http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/flipmlb/media/DSCN4249_zpsef7595f1.jpg.html)

Pro Gears OC40 n CS550 definitely coming with me  PG541 ???  OC40 n PG541 are "sleepers"

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s410/flipmlb/DSCN4250_zpsca140032.jpg) (http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/flipmlb/media/DSCN4250_zpsca140032.jpg.html)

Maks  8II-SEa  20II-SEa  (10II-SEa waiting for me in L.A.) 8 n 10 hopefully will be tested next June  not "sleepers" yet but will be

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s410/flipmlb/DSCN4251_zpsa23155fd.jpg) (http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/flipmlb/media/DSCN4251_zpsa23155fd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 12, 2014, 04:00:25 PM
Quote from: Mel B on April 11, 2014, 01:00:03 PM
in preparation for the trip, here's a preview;

2 of the reels(SX n MXJ) i'll most probably bring, with extra bearings soaking in TSI 301 and reel's external moving parts being drizzled with 321(my corrosion X is in L.A.);

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s410/flipmlb/DSCN4249_zpsef7595f1.jpg) (http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/flipmlb/media/DSCN4249_zpsef7595f1.jpg.html)

Pro Gears OC40 n CS550 definitely coming with me  PG541 ???  OC40 n PG541 are "sleepers"

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s410/flipmlb/DSCN4250_zpsca140032.jpg) (http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/flipmlb/media/DSCN4250_zpsca140032.jpg.html)

Maks  8II-SEa  20II-SEa  (10II-SEa waiting for me in L.A.) 8 n 10 hopefully will be tested next June  not "sleepers" yet but will be

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s410/flipmlb/DSCN4251_zpsa23155fd.jpg) (http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/flipmlb/media/DSCN4251_zpsa23155fd.jpg.html)

Nice Mel ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on April 13, 2014, 04:46:23 AM
bring the mak 8II and the mak 10II and leave the others home!   ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on April 13, 2014, 06:31:05 AM
So, I was hoping to buy 2 nice So Cal rods for this trip but it just isn't in the cards. That means one of my 20 pound rigs will be a yellow po' (Ugly Stick Tiger rod) 7ft 10-30#. My wife bought it for me as a just because gift years ago and I've caught a few bay bass and such with it out of SD bay. My question is which reel to go on it? I have a SLH-V 20 and a Newelled Baymaster looking for a home. The other reel will end up on a pre-Shakespeare All-Star.
Thanks
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: LTM on April 13, 2014, 06:36:50 AM
Mel,

NICE GEAR!!!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on April 13, 2014, 07:53:05 AM
Don't worry about tackle. We have lots.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on April 29, 2014, 03:51:27 AM
After reading Alan Hawk's review of the Fin-Nor Lethal LT100 and re-evaluating the compromises needed in order to get the Penn SSV8500LL's Live Liner function, it became too apparent that LESS is MORE.

Ordered the Fin-Nor online tonight.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 29, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
Quote from: alantani on April 13, 2014, 04:46:23 AM
bring the mak 8II and the mak 10II and leave the others home!   ;D

but Alan T., I also have the SALD-2SP TN16A etc! ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 30, 2014, 02:07:34 AM
Almost ready: A few more items to come  ;D ;D ;D Tim


(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_2208_zps8daaa316.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_2208_zps8daaa316.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on April 30, 2014, 06:54:26 AM
you know, guys, we only get 4 days of fishing!   ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: LTM on April 30, 2014, 08:06:29 AM
Guys,

As a rule-of-thumb, I put gimbal's on ALL rods 40# and up.

Leo
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: LTM on April 30, 2014, 08:12:06 AM
Quote from: alantani on April 30, 2014, 06:54:26 AM
you know, guys, we only get 4 days of fishing!   ;D
Alan,

Your forgetting the motto: "professional over-run".  Darn near impossible to stop a run-away train!!!

Leo
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 30, 2014, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: alantani on April 30, 2014, 06:54:26 AM
you know, guys, we only get 4 days of fishing!   ;D

aren't you bringing about 15 set ups? :)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 30, 2014, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: LTM on April 30, 2014, 08:12:06 AM
...Darn near impossible to stop a run-away train!!!

i didn't know this... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 30, 2014, 02:38:20 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on April 30, 2014, 02:07:34 AM
Almost ready: A few more items to come  ;D ;D ;D Tim

me too! let's show these folks what newbies can do... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: OldSchool on April 30, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
Sounds like an awesome adventure, hopefully the boat will have room after all that gear on-board. Wow....whose bringing the kitchen sink. ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 30, 2014, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: OldSchool on April 30, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
....whose bringing the kitchen sink. ;D

you're a very funny person... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on April 30, 2014, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: ML B on April 30, 2014, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: OldSchool on April 30, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
....whose bringing the kitchen sink. ;D
I igure I got that. ;D
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on April 30, 2014, 06:21:03 PM
Quote from: OldSchool on April 30, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
. Wow....whose bringing the kitchen sink. ;D

It's packed.  

I've been on several 10 and 15 day trips and every one has been different.  On the first one (a 10 day) I was prepared for YT and school YFT up to 60#.  It's a good thing Mark at Charkbait talked me into bringing a heavy rod and a 50 as we ended up fishing for cow YFT for most of the trip.  The next trip was a 15 day and I thought I had everything I needed to catch wahoo and cow YFT, I had the heavy gear but my 40# gear was outclassed by the grade of wahoo we were catching....well I was hooking them and went 22-0...I made up for this by landing 3 cows up to 258#.  The next 15 day trip I knew I was prepared, and had most of what I needed but not all.  That trip I only lost 2 wahoo and brought 10 to port, 8 made it home.

What I've learned is to bring a variety of gear but you will never have what it takes 100% of the time.  This will be my first short trip and I'm bringing mostly 30# and 40# gear (2 each), one 25#, a light rod for calico bass and a 60# rod in case we find large YT.  I will also have several torpedo weights in the 6-8 ounce range, swimbaits, a few trolling plugs and feathers, iron, a pile of hooks and lots of fluorocarbon in the 20-60 range.  I have some reels I want to test so I will have far too many reels.  And then there is my "vintage" 40# rod with a 349L on it that I really want to catch a large YT with.  Toss in the kitchen sink and I feel I'm almost covered.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on April 30, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
Ok..Lee & Ron, looks like you guys are bringing the kitchen sinks, so I will not ;D.

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Aiala on April 30, 2014, 07:32:35 PM
Here are some of the things I've neglected to bring in the past:

Split ring/crimping pliers
Fish rags (with a shower curtain ring to clip on belt)
Vise grips
Screw driver
Hook file
Band-aids & Neosporin
Eyeglasses lanyard
Sunscreen
Shampoo
Cigarettes (if that's your vice)
Hand gaff for sorting fish at dock
Rubber gloves for same
and many more...

I have, however, always brought the kitchen sink.   ;D

~A~






Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on April 30, 2014, 08:24:53 PM
Non fishing items,
Shower kit, I get a tight hair cut so bar soap is used rather than shampoo.
Meds
Sunscreen
Low rubber shoes
Light rain jacket
First aid kit
Spare glasses
Shop towels
Camera
Favorite tea

Peripherals
Topshot jig and needles
Fishing gloves
Fishing pliers
Lighter
Hook file and stone
Spare kitchen sink

And a few more items.




Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on April 30, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
Quote from: Keta on April 30, 2014, 08:24:53 PM...Spare kitchen sink...

Dang it, knew I forgot something...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: OldSchool on April 30, 2014, 11:40:55 PM
Yes, Yes...it is better to have and not want than to want and not have.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on May 01, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
i'll take care of the "nail polish"... ;)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 01, 2014, 12:36:37 AM
Quote from: ML B on May 01, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
i'll take care of the "nail polish"... ;)

Thanks Mel, I was worried about that one  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Aiala on May 01, 2014, 12:42:30 AM
Quote from: ML B on May 01, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
I'll take care of the "nail polish"... ;)

Try OPI's "I'm Not Really A Waitress"... a vivacious chianti red.  ;D

~A~
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on May 01, 2014, 12:46:29 AM
chianti red=loctite red, i prefer chianti blue if it exists... ;)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 01, 2014, 12:46:43 AM
Quote from: Aiala on May 01, 2014, 12:42:30 AM
Quote from: ML B on May 01, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
I'll take care of the "nail polish"... ;)

Try OPI's "I'm Not Really A Waitress"... a vivacious chianti red.  ;D

~A~

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 01, 2014, 12:50:28 AM
On a more serious note...Does the SOA have in rail rod holders or do they troll with a sling? Not sure i want to damage my vintage Harnell trolling rod butt
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on May 01, 2014, 01:11:20 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on May 01, 2014, 12:50:28 AM
On a more serious note...Does the SOA have in rail rod holders or do they troll with a sling? Not sure i want to damage my vintage Harnell trolling rod butt

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8648.0

Rail rod holders...1/2 way down the post; look for guy with orange shirt...
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on May 01, 2014, 02:26:08 AM
Here's Alan's photo of the stern.    Put some shrink tube or wrap the butt with tennis racket tape like the rod in the second photo.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/10/1_14_10_13_11_15_23_1034244.jpeg)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/DSCN1431_zpsa8403d0d.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Reels/DSCN1431_zpsa8403d0d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: SoCalAngler on May 01, 2014, 04:24:31 AM
The SOA has solid rails so no slings can be used.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Aiala on May 02, 2014, 10:33:20 PM
I knew there was something else I'd forgotten... squid jigs! (Just ordered five glow-in-the-dark ones on eBay)   :D

~A~
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: bluefish69 on May 02, 2014, 11:03:40 PM
Our guys in N Y use the cloth covered Squid Jigs. They rub Smelly Jelly on them. They say it attracts Squid to the jig.

Mike
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Aiala on May 02, 2014, 11:27:43 PM
Quote from: bluefish69 on May 02, 2014, 11:03:40 PM
Our guys in N Y use the cloth covered Squid Jigs.

Yeah, I saw those... but since I've had good luck with the plastic ones, I stuck with them. Besides, I don't much like the sound of "Smelly Jelly"... gross!  :-X

Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: bluefish69 on May 03, 2014, 12:02:51 AM
I tried. LOL
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 04, 2014, 01:06:57 AM
I was given an AFTCO Alijos fighting belt as a gift, but it fits a bit uncomfortably(hits me in the wrong spot) ;D :o :o ... It is a weight issue...I have lost quite a bit of weight but have a ton to go. Do I really need a large belt for a trip like this?


Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on May 04, 2014, 01:46:57 AM
The likelihood of running into cow YFT is slim, I'm leaving my belt and plate at home.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on May 04, 2014, 02:12:04 AM
Quote from: Keta on May 04, 2014, 01:46:57 AM
The likelihood of running into cow YFT is slim, I'm leaving my belt and plate at home.
That comment reminds me of General Custer's quote "there ain't no Indians around here."   :D ;D Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 04, 2014, 02:38:15 AM
Quote from: Dominick on May 04, 2014, 02:12:04 AM
Quote from: Keta on May 04, 2014, 01:46:57 AM
The likelihood of running into cow YFT is slim, I'm leaving my belt and plate at home.
That comment reminds me of General Custer's quote "there ain't no Indians around here."   :D ;D Dominick

Okie Dokie...I guess my belt is good
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on May 04, 2014, 02:43:27 AM
Quote from: Dominick on May 04, 2014, 02:12:04 AMThat comment reminds me of General Custer's quote "there ain't no Indians around here."   :D ;D Dominick

I will have my "gatling gun" with me.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: bluefish69 on May 04, 2014, 03:22:03 AM
Quote from: Keta on May 04, 2014, 01:46:57 AM
The likelihood of running into cow YFT is slim, I'm leaving my belt and plate at home.


Just bring Water Skies

Mike
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on May 04, 2014, 04:31:55 AM
We have exceptional albacore fishing off of the Oregon coast and I fish for them all season.  I'm not all that interested in targeting them on this trip but it would be real nice to find the BFT.

https://www.976-tuna.com/news.php?extend.134607 (https://www.976-tuna.com/news.php?extend.134607)
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on May 04, 2014, 05:09:49 AM
i'm leaving the belts at home.  i know i've been saying "don't buy anymore gear," but i am going to have a rod built by john vadney just for this trip.  i thought of a phenix 760, but i may go with an 838.  i have one penn torque that is lonely.  thinking of an acid wrap.   ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on May 04, 2014, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: alantani on May 04, 2014, 05:09:49 AM
thinking of an acid wrap.   ;D

I'm slowly converting my non roller rods to spiral wrap, even my kokanee/trout rods.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 04, 2014, 11:13:08 PM
Reports on early Bluefin  :o Not so sure I ever got one of those when i was a kid in San Diego? But my 112H can do this  ;D
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I hope one of these reels can catch a Bluefin  ;D ;D ;D one more rod and a couple of cosmetics on my sons reel & I'm done
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Time to contemplate: Fresh corn & bean salad over BBQ Carne Asada W/Salsa and Guacamole  ;D ;D ;D & a beer of coarse...Cheers Mates!
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Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: broadway on May 06, 2014, 01:07:52 AM
I'm not sure when I was ever more excited to hear about a trip that I'm not even going on. 
Hope you guys nail them silly!
Lee, not to sound like the misses, but maybe the belt would be good to relieve a little pressure off that hand. :-\
Have a great trip, crew!
Dom
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 18, 2014, 11:50:14 PM
OK...I finished servicing the rest of my reels and added line where needed. I watched one of Alan's videos and he was using what looked like a short Fluoro leader on braid ? I have a longer mono top shot and plan to go short Fluorocarbon leader to my hook. Anything wrong with this ? Or maybe I'm just so freaking ready to go that I'm over thinking ? The 3 on top are all mono.

Tim
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Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on May 19, 2014, 12:26:17 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on May 18, 2014, 11:50:14 PM
OK...I finished servicing the rest of my reels and added line where needed. I watched one of Alan's videos and he was using what looked like a short Fluoro leader on braid ? I have a longer mono top shot and plan to go short Fluorocarbon leader to my hook. Anything wrong with this ? Or maybe I'm just so freaking ready to go that I'm over thinking ? The 3 on top are all mono.

Tim

As long as you have confidence in your mono to fluoro knot, nothing wrong.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 19, 2014, 01:24:38 AM
I hear you...I've learned several knots but it seems that the double uni and Palomar are as consistent as any on a scale?? I will for sure find out soon  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on May 19, 2014, 03:42:55 AM
Mono to fluoro?  Double surgeon has never let me down. Lower profile than a Seaguar.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on May 19, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
somebody bringing tools?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Norcal Pescador on May 19, 2014, 08:13:27 PM
Quote from: ML B on May 19, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
somebody bringing tools?

Chainsaw, pipe wrench, duct tape and crow bar.  What else would you need? ::) ;D

Seriously Mel, I'm bringing a small reel & rod fixit kit with some parts. I don't plan to use it unless everything I'm bringing breaks. :-\
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on May 19, 2014, 08:31:18 PM
Quote from: ML B on May 19, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
somebody bringing tools?

nope!  i expect everyone's gear to be in top shape!   ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on May 20, 2014, 12:25:12 AM
Does anyone on the SOA want to fish with the original tank?  If so I'll put it on a rod and send it down with Alan.  He should have room for one more rod and reel.  Just let me know.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 20, 2014, 01:05:58 AM
Quote from: Dominick on May 20, 2014, 12:25:12 AM
Does anyone on the SOA want to fish with the original tank?  If so I'll put it on a rod and send it down with Alan.  He should have room for one more rod and reel.  Just let me know.  Dominick

Is it rookie certified ? I would fish that thing  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 20, 2014, 01:06:53 AM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on May 19, 2014, 08:13:27 PM
Quote from: ML B on May 19, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
somebody bringing tools?

Chainsaw, pipe wrench, duct tape and crow bar.  What else would you need? ::) ;D

Seriously Mel, I'm bringing a small reel & rod fixit kit with some parts. I don't plan to use it unless everything I'm bringing breaks. :-\

And I got the mechanics wire!!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 20, 2014, 01:10:07 AM
On a serious note. Does anybody know a Fresno area guy that does rod building/repair ? I want to shorten mt custom rod a few inches but the #'s I got don't answer their phones.

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on May 20, 2014, 04:39:05 AM
Alan:  Do you have room for the tank and a rod?  I'll bring it down before the trip.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on May 20, 2014, 04:41:54 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on May 20, 2014, 01:05:58 AM
Quote from: Dominick on May 20, 2014, 12:25:12 AM
Does anyone on the SOA want to fish with the original tank?  If so I'll put it on a rod and send it down with Alan.  He should have room for one more rod and reel.  Just let me know.  Dominick

Is it rookie certified ? I would fish that thing  ;D ;D ;D
Okay Tim, hopefully Alan or someone will be able to deliver it down.  After you catch a fish with it you can pass it around and give whomever wants to try it out.  It should be fun for everyone.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on May 20, 2014, 04:50:40 PM
i guess i have to bring my "itak", my filipino army knife... ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on May 20, 2014, 09:54:10 PM
yes.  we'll hook up at some point!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on May 21, 2014, 12:05:21 AM
Quote from: alantani on May 20, 2014, 09:54:10 PM
yes.  we'll hook up at some point!
Alan:  Do you have a spiral wrapped rod that will work with the tank?  I usually use a Shakespeare Tidewater part roller rod with the tank and I will set it up, but I think a spiral wrapped rod would be fun especially for some of us who have never used one.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on May 21, 2014, 12:05:49 AM
not an extra one.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 21, 2014, 12:15:59 AM
Quote from: alantani on May 21, 2014, 12:05:49 AM
not an extra one.

That's alright Alan we will just use yours... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on May 21, 2014, 12:25:27 AM
Thanks Dom,
The Nex has that rod at a great price, I haven't heard any reviews of it, but if you use it on the Tank then I guess it is good enough for my Marlin Special.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on May 21, 2014, 12:54:51 AM
Quote from: noyb72 on May 21, 2014, 12:25:27 AM
Thanks Dom,
The Nex has that rod at a great price, I haven't heard any reviews of it, but if you use it on the Tank then I guess it is good enough for my Marlin Special.
Ron
I think it is a fine rod.  Someday I'll get a chance to use a spiral.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on May 21, 2014, 02:22:53 AM
I have a Seeker G6480 and a G6470 that are acid wrapped by J.Akuhed I can bring If anyone wants to try a spiral rod.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on May 21, 2014, 02:38:16 AM
Quote from: MarkT on May 21, 2014, 02:22:53 AM
I have a Seeker G6480 and a G6470 that are acid wrapped by J.Akuhed I can bring If anyone wants to try a spiral rod.
MarkT:  Please bring it.  I will send the tank down with Alan.  A spiral wrapped Seeker and the tank, wow! what a combo.  I am going to Los Cabos June 10 to 17 and will take the tank with me.  I will see that Alan gets the reel when I get back.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on May 21, 2014, 03:44:36 AM
Which one?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on May 21, 2014, 04:22:25 AM
Quote from: MarkT on May 21, 2014, 03:44:36 AM
Which one?
I don't know.  :-\  I am not familiar with the models.  Does it help for you to know that the tank has 80lb braid with 100 flouro top shot.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on May 22, 2014, 01:50:11 AM
Seeker Black Steel G6470 is a 40# rod. G6480 is 30-40#.

I'm going on a 2 1/2 day this weekend on the Pacific Voyager out of Seaforth. Conditions are looking real good.  I've been told to bring 60# in case the big boys want to play.  There are reports of big numbers of BFT 90-300 miles down. I was going to take 25-30-30-40-50.  I guess I'll take some 60# fluoro in case I need to upgrade the 50.  One 30 is an SX Raptor, 40 is a Saltiga 40LDII, 50 is an HX Raptor so all 3 can play up a line class if I need to go big. I can only hope!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: SoCalAngler on May 22, 2014, 04:44:18 AM
John Grabowski designed a fine rod in the G6470 along with Seeker for 40 lb test. I don't own any but I have fished them many times. I do own two 6470's by Calstar one a BWC and a standard honey color and have caught many fish with them (there not made any more by Calstar) and one Calstar BWC 6480 for 40-50 lb. The honey 6470 stays in Baja and the BWC's rides with me on most trips here, well when 40 lb bait and 50lb jigs are needed, but sadly that is not often until I head south. The Black Steel's have lovely tips for slinging deans and even iron and shut off where they are most comfortable but 50 lb is pushing that rod. The G6480-8 is a fantastic 30 lb rod with the H a great 40 lb rod in the Black Steel line.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: SoCalAngler on May 22, 2014, 05:04:12 AM
A tank should be a 50-60lb test bait reel. On the lighter rods it is way over kill, keep that for sails, marlin, larger tuna on bait, mean mossbacks and big AJ's over structur.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on May 22, 2014, 06:26:23 PM
Neither are capable of pulling the plug from the bottom of the ocean with a total tank.

That G6480 when acid wrapped is very stable under load.  I think the biggest things I've caught on it were 40# Humbolt squid a few years ago.  It worked very well when they were zig-zagging around.  I let some newbies catch a few with it too.  They had a hoot even with the 8' rod.

A 45# YT is the biggest on G6470.

They both started as factory rods but I turned 'em over to my brah, J.AkuHed, for some acid lovin'.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on May 22, 2014, 06:27:23 PM
Here is the Seeker Promo 6470 Captain Grabowski handed me when I won the 5 Star processing certificate and was going to give it away to another person on the trip, I usually process my own fish.  This is a very good rod and sometime in the future it will be spiral wrapped.

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Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on May 22, 2014, 07:14:31 PM
I'll bring rod and reel to Alan for the trip.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: SoCalAngler on May 23, 2014, 04:29:57 PM
Keta,

That looks like a Seeker American series rod because of the red white and blue wraps with honey blank. If it is its a all glass rod that has not been made in some time and also looks custom wrapped, maybe for John as promo stuff. Before re wrapping it I'd do a little research on it you may have a collectable there.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on May 23, 2014, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: SoCalAngler on May 23, 2014, 04:29:57 PM
Keta,

That looks like a Seeker American series rod because of the red white and blue wraps with honey blank. If it is its a all glass rod that has not been made in some time and also looks custom wrapped, maybe for John as promo stuff. Before re wrapping it I'd do a little research on it you may have a collectable there.

Thanks for the "warning" it does have "promo" on the other side.  I will save it as is, it also has personal value because it reminds me of a fun trip with a good crew and a GREAT captain. I think I landed the wahoo I dropped off at Charkbait on it too. I have 2 Black Steel 6465H rods I can rewrap and use for 40lb.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 24, 2014, 12:00:19 AM
I'm geared up to go  ;D ;D ;D Well almost ... I have a Penn Baja Special spooled with 40# mono and really no rod for it  ??? I'm not sure what to get. I've looked at the Phenix Abyss 20-50...Seeker Pinhead ... Black Steel 8' Ct 40#, ect... I may go used ? or new depending on my last minute $$$ prior to our trip. Suggestions/Recommendations ?

Tim
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Norcal Pescador on May 24, 2014, 01:09:22 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on May 24, 2014, 12:00:19 AM
I'm geared up to go  ;D ;D ;D Well almost ... I have a Penn Baja Special spooled with 40# mono and really no rod for it  ??? I'm not sure what to get. I've looked at the Phoenix Abyss 20-50...Seeker Pinhead ... Black Steel 8' Ct 40#, ect... I may go used ? or new depending on my last minute $$$ prior to our trip. Suggestions/Recommendations ?

Tim

Also Calstar 670, (20-50#) [I ended up buying a 610 - 25-60# so I only have to change my topshot/leader]. What do you like? - looks like you are leaning towards 8+ ft, fiberglass?? Calstar also has deckhand series in glass, graphite and hybrid.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 24, 2014, 01:29:57 AM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on May 24, 2014, 01:09:22 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on May 24, 2014, 12:00:19 AM
I'm geared up to go  ;D ;D ;D Well almost ... I have a Penn Baja Special spooled with 40# mono and really no rod for it  ??? I'm not sure what to get. I've looked at the Phoenix Abyss 20-50...Seeker Pinhead ... Black Steel 8' Ct 40#, ect... I may go used ? or new depending on my last minute $$$ prior to our trip. Suggestions/Recommendations ?

Tim

Also Calstar 670, (20-50#) [I ended up buying a 610 - 25-60# so I only have to change my topshot/leader]. What do you like? - looks like you are leaning towards 8+ ft, fiberglass?? Calstar also has deckhand series in glass, graphite and hybrid.

Mounted it on a Phenix today...Freakin' nice ;D I have 3 Black Steel rods ... 6'5' & 7', 30/40/50, so you're right, 8' glass seems like allot of fun.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on May 24, 2014, 06:48:59 AM
I just offered what I thought would be a rejected first offer on two Sabre rods. One is a number#51766C & the other is a # 1765. Low and behold he accepted the offer and I will be bringing them along. One will have a fully upgraded Newell YTS loaded with 80 and the other will be my primary 40 pound rod for the trip with Bryan's Pacifica on it. I'm a happy lad right now.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on May 25, 2014, 02:10:07 AM
Quote from: noyb72 on May 24, 2014, 06:48:59 AM
I just offered what I thought would be a rejected first offer on two Sabre rods. One is a number#51766C & the other is a # 1765. Low and behold he accepted the offer and I will be bringing them along. One will have a fully upgraded Newell YTS loaded with 80 and the other will be my primary 40 pound rod for the trip with Bryan's Pacifica on it. I'm a happy lad right now.
Ron

Way to go Ron...You know what they say "Throw a shovel full against the wall and see what sticks". Got an early Fathers day present...An addition to my sleeper reel.


112H With SS gear sleeve, Bryans drag stack, SS dog,Jigmaster power handle, 5:1 gears & my son added an Accurate frame. Not sure what the max drag can be ? But I pulled 18# straight off the reel...Mel is bringing me a drag star. Let's go fishin'
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Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Ron Jones on May 25, 2014, 04:23:38 AM
Nice!!
18#s is as much drag as anyone would need with that reel, great deal there.
Ron
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on May 26, 2014, 07:44:49 PM
I just got back from a 2.5 dayer aboard the Pac Voyager at 9am today.  I got 2 10# YT, a 20# YFT, a 20# BFT and a 60#+ BFT.  I gave away the YT and a bag of BFT... I should've given away more! Most of the rest will go to work with me tomorrow to be given away.  When the big boys were around we were told to use nothing less than 40# on a 2-speed... so I did!  My biggest BFT came on a 'dine cherry picked by a DH. I told him it worked out and he said he'd noticed. We would have done much better with better bait. We had Mackeral, a few Sardines, some small Anchovies and some Squid left over from the prior trip that they'd made at San Martin.   With a tank of 'dines we'd have slayed them.  Tuna were caught 165-190 miles south.  YT were off paddies.  Plan accordingly!

The long range boats in SD get the cured 'dines.  The others get whatever is available. Hopefully, we'll get the good stuff!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on May 27, 2014, 12:55:41 AM
I have reconsidered what I'm bringing and now will upgrade everything and drop the calico bass rig and replace it with a Avet JX or HX on a 40# rod.  I really was looking forward to targeting YT but BFT will make me happy.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: MarkT on June 04, 2014, 09:01:22 PM
The last couple of days it's been rough offshore and the counts are rat Yellowtails and not vast quantities of them.  It should pick back up in the next couple weeks or else we'll be fishing with 15-20# and getting most of the fish on the troll.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: alantani on June 05, 2014, 01:02:34 AM
we've always gotten the good stuff!
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: SoCalAngler on June 05, 2014, 01:18:05 AM
Quote from: MarkT on June 04, 2014, 09:01:22 PM
The last couple of days it's been rough offshore and the counts are rat Yellowtails and not vast quantities of them.  It should pick back up in the next couple weeks or else we'll be fishing with 15-20# and getting most of the fish on the troll.

I thought you guys were doing a 5 day trip and if you are I'm sure you won't spend the whole time in the 2 day range. Cedros, Benitos islands can come into play along with some of the banks like Uncle Sam's.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on June 05, 2014, 02:17:42 AM
I am ready ... I don't care where or what we fish for  ;D I got a good attitude and a new Ol' Skool rod for my Baja Special.  ;D ;D ;D 7'7" all glass Harnell, 30+ rod W/Penn Baja Special, full of P-Line 40#...That should make you  ;D
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Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on June 06, 2014, 02:04:04 PM
What lures should I bring for trolling?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Porthos on June 06, 2014, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: Keta on June 06, 2014, 02:04:04 PM
What lures should I bring for trolling?

The standard would be plugs and feathers:
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If it saves you the hassle of bringing some, you borrow any of these since I can't use them all at the same time. You can also replace the leader on any you choose to use just for peace of mind.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: maxpowers on June 06, 2014, 03:47:49 PM
Just an FYI,

Our Local Big 5 Sporting Goods stores are having a pretty decent sales.  I picked up a displayed Talica 16II for $353 out the door.  The sales ends Saturday.
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on June 06, 2014, 11:31:35 PM
Spirit of Adventure enthusiasts, I met Alan at the range (we got some shooting in) I dropped off the Tank and a rod.  Anyone and everyone on the trip should try it out.  It is a fine reel.  Have fun with it as I have had over several trips.  Its gotten, tuna, marlin, dorado and rooster fish and perform flawlessly.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on June 07, 2014, 12:07:53 AM
Quote from: Dominick on June 06, 2014, 11:31:35 PM
Spirit of Adventure enthusiasts, I met Alan at the range (we got some shooting in) I dropped off the Tank and a rod.  Anyone and everyone on the trip should try it out.  It is a fine reel.  Have fun with it as I have had over several trips.  Its gotten, tuna, marlin, dorado and rooster fish and perform flawlessly.  Dominick

Went to the Range in Fresno last week and shot my .357 and a few rentals...Went off with a Ruger 22/45 at full distance left & right handed.Had a big smile till the CHP showed up with a .44 mag and hit 6 for 6  bulls eyes form 40' left and right handed  :o I FEEL PROTECTED FOR SURE  ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on June 07, 2014, 12:38:11 AM
I forgot to mention that I had planned to take the reel on my Baja trip 6/10-17 but the trip overlapped with the SOA so I won't get to use it this month but I'll take it when I go back in November.  Tim I do alright for an old guy.  The funny thing is I never tried shooting left handed.  Next time.  Alan has a couple of Sigs and I rented a Glock 9mm.  The Glock was fun but I liked Alan's guns better.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Keta on June 07, 2014, 12:41:39 AM
Do you want to borrow my Tank?
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on June 07, 2014, 01:20:16 AM
Quote from: Dominick on June 07, 2014, 12:38:11 AM
I forgot to mention that I had planned to take the reel on my Baja trip 6/10-17 but the trip overlapped with the SOA so I won't get to use it this month but I'll take it when I go back in November.  Tim I do alright for an old guy.  The funny thing is I never tried shooting left handed.  Next time.  Alan has a couple of Sigs and I rented a Glock 9mm.  The Glock was fun but I liked Alan's guns better.  Dominick
Dom: I learned to shoot leftie when I broke my right hand in the Navy. Shoot a bit of pool leftie and one handed to  ;D To fat to show off that much anymore  ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Dominick on June 07, 2014, 02:39:03 AM
Quote from: Keta on June 07, 2014, 12:41:39 AM
Do you want to borrow my Tank?
Nah, I'm good.  Thanks though.  Dominick
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: Big Tim on June 08, 2014, 04:51:52 PM
I just read all 20 pages of this thread...LMAO  :D  ;D :D ... I can only imagine what visitors of this site think of all this gear mayhem  ;D
Title: Re: Gear For The Trip
Post by: johndtuttle on June 08, 2014, 04:55:28 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on June 05, 2014, 02:17:42 AM
I am ready ... I don't care where or what we fish for  ;D I got a good attitude and a new Ol' Skool rod for my Baja Special.  ;D ;D ;D 7'7" all glass Harnell, 30+ rod W/Penn Baja Special, full of P-Line 40#...That should make you  ;D
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O heck yea, that's a meat stick right thar!