Good morning everyone,
So I finally decided on my setup. Got 3 sets of shimano teramars 7'11" and 7' 4" with daiwa ld 20h and hyperspeed reels-
I'm hoping now that you guys might be able to help me with some good setups for fishing off of the rocks. Artificial lures that you have had luck with or using live/cut bait.
I'm up for anything, I'm very excited about starting.
I tried to find info in here but I'm useless with it!
Thank you in advanced
P.s I'm running 30 and 40 lb braid
Where are you fishing? ???
Quote from: Capt Ahab on March 25, 2014, 04:21:46 PM
Where are you fishing? ???
What he said. "Off the rocks" just doesn't provide enough data. I have fished off surf jetties forever and the curly tailed grub is always in my box. Other than that, we need more info.
Ron
Brute try searching in these 3 other Boards?
Setting Up Your Reel To Go Fishing
Fishing Line, Knots, Splices and Rigging
Fishing Tips and Techniques
good luck and tight lines...
The Los Angeles area in calif.
Off the surf, Jerry's about 300-600 foot long.
Piers as well but I'm more concerned on setups for Jerry's ( off the rocks ) and the surf.
I don't care what I catch as long as I catch, hehe. But I do love halibut, rockfish, flounder... Don't know much else that can be found there...
I always use squid or mackerel so I'm open to artificial lure suggestions / rigs :)
Mel, is that in here? I haven't seen that
yes it's in the same group as Fishing Rods. btw there's also section for Lures...
Quote from: Brute347 on March 25, 2014, 06:32:24 PM
The Los Angeles area in calif.
Off the surf, Jerry's about 300-600 foot long.
Piers as well but I'm more concerned on setups for Jerry's ( off the rocks ) and the surf.
I don't care what I catch as long as I catch, hehe. But I do love halibut, rockfish, flounder... Don't know much else that can be found there...
I always use squid or mackerel so I'm open to artificial lure suggestions / rigs :)
LA area = San Pedro to Malibu. If your in the South Bay area check with Pete at Just Fishing in Redondo Beach. He can referr you to some good fishing spots and rigging suggestions.
Leo
I'm not sure if their is a place to do this in the LA area, but I used to get a few chovies from the bait dock and keep them alive by swapping water in a 5 gallon bucket and fish them off a 3 way rig. Worked for everything you listed and croaker, perch etc. Swimbaits will work, the aforementioned curly tail but my favorite artificial off a jetty is a 2 tailed white 6-8" scampi retrived redicoulously slow. I used a slow gear ratio reel and made one revolution of the handle and then counted to 20 as slow as I could and then did another revolution. It always suprised me when I started to reel and suddenly realized that a halibut or yellowfin was sucking on my lure.
Any way you do it, lots and lots of fun.
Ron
Swim baits like "Big Hammer" have been very productive. Also Berkeley Gulp Camo Sandworms are great artificles.
I don't use as much bait as I used to unless I'm still fishing (Cast out our weight and bait and wait).
Good luck.
Cannot help you at all - you are on the wrong coast! ;D
Are there striped bass where you fish? If so, we gots lures for those beasties
Other then that, good luck to you
Off jetties and piers I always go a paternoster rig or running sinker....seems to work wherever you are. If off the jetty make the topshot or shock leader as long as the distance from the jetty to the water and save hassles cutting hands trying to lift fish up with braid unless of course your using a flying gaff.
Thanks guys,
That's a lot of info and things to research, I appreciate it. I fish at redondo pier a lot so I'll go look for that place :)
Thanks guys
Be careful where you decide to fish. Piers are fine but other areas such as jetties and beaches may be closed do to the work of the of all the enviro-green weenies here in So Cal. With all of the MLPA closers it's getting hard to find open areas to fish. Check the DFG maps for the area you want to fish here https://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/mpa/
Quote from: Brute347 on January 17, 1970, 03:43:24 AM
I fish at redondo pier a lot so I'll go look for that place :)
i'll probably see you there in the very near future...
Let me know! Maybe we can do some fishing together and I can learn from you a few things :)
Quote from: Brute347 on March 25, 2014, 06:32:24 PM
The Los Angeles area in calif.
Off the surf, Jerry's about 300-600 foot long.
Piers as well but I'm more concerned on setups for Jerry's ( off the rocks ) and the surf.
I don't care what I catch as long as I catch, hehe. But I do love halibut, rockfish, flounder... Don't know much else that can be found there...
I always use squid or mackerel so I'm open to artificial lure suggestions / rigs :)
I live in north Orange County. Everything you need can be found on this site...
http://www.scsurffishing.com/
Ty I just opened it
Quote from: Brute347 on March 27, 2014, 03:20:50 PM
Let me know! Maybe we can do some fishing together and I can learn from you a few things :)
definitely!
i was there late oct last yr and caught nothing. i saw a lot of pinoys(Filipinos) and had a good conversation with them. most probably i'll be the one to learn from you because i'm used to overhead casting and it's not allowed.
Lol, I go late at night so I can overhead cast because I don't know how the other way lol so I go when it's mostly empty- everyone does it that is there fishing and it's empty so there's no danger to snag anyone but yes it isn't allowed according to the rules
So this is what I got to hit the jettys- and the license
The options I'll have for the rod and reel are as follows:
Saltist lever drag 20 hyper speed paired with a shimano teramar 7'11" or 7'4"" 15-30 heavy
Daiwa lexa 300 high speed power handle
I also have a shimano teramar 8' 20-40 heavy
I'm thinking the lexa with the 8' since I'll be on the rocks and it'll help clear the base of the rock formation, which I've read tapers out so getting snagged is very likely. So the extra 8 inches of length might help me steer clear from the rocks ??
What do you guys think? I have 30 pound braided and 40. I bought some plastic lures today, otherwise I'll probably be fishing with squid unless I catch something I can chop up or throw in whole
Thanks for the info guys :) I'm very excited to start
BOA PESCA have a great time and be safe...
OK, crash course here. ;) I'm a veteran of this.
-I use 50-80lbs braid & 40-60lb leaders because I target rockfish,lings & cabezon.
-Torpedo shape sinkers or sand bags if you're casting into rocks or kelp.
-Squid. shrimp. and whole small fish work well.
-Swimbaits like Big Hammer & Fishtrap, weedless jig heads help reduce losing gear.
-Always hold your rig, rock fish tend to duck for cover after they hit, you gotta be fast reelin' when they hit.
-single dropper loop gets less snags, so do circle hooks. (Although I use octopus hooks alot)
-Keep moving, don't stay in one place if it doesn't produce.
-You don't have to cast too far sometimes they're right under you.
...and lastly...BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY.. BE SAFE OUT THERE!!! don't fish from wet rocks or near crashing waves and try to fish with a friend.
Good luck, hope this helps.
Thank you, that helps a ton- I got 30 pound test braid on right now- I'm at the store buying jigging hooks with a weighted head- is 1 1-8 ounce too heavy?
Hey guys, what's the best times to fish off of the Jetty's ?
Mostly use 3" swimbait, big hammer AA monarch curly tail on a ML steelhead type rod 8-10', spinning or baitcast #6-10 mono. I stick with the standard round jighead with bronze hooks. It's cheap and will rust out of the fish that broke off. Outside the breakers, the same type rod in MH power optimum for #20. This is the rig for my 4-6" pearl swimbaits. I'm currently using an old Fenwick 8.5" rated for 6-17 (#6-8 optimum) and an unknown blank 9' #50 spectra 3' #30 floro or straight #20 mono. When the fishing gets really picky, I breakout my whipping outfit, sliding sinker, 8' #6 floro, #10 mosquito hook with 2" curly tail, making crawl slowly on sandy bottom.
Best time is when the tide shift and current is moving. Cast out so that your lure is swimming with the current, most fish will be facing what's drifting towards them specially halibut.
More info to study, I didn't understand all those numbers lol.
So I fished for about 6 hours from 2 pm to about 7. I caught nothing. I was casting out into deep water- that lexa 300 is great for casting. I was using 1 and 3/4 ounce weights with the artificial lures from the picture and also tried squid. Got 2 bites. My friend went with me she got a rockfish, a sculpin I believe but we let it go if was 13 inches long.
A guy came and in 15 minutes caught a small halibut and two really really big fish that were silver with bluish hue on the top.. He was using the same setup as me . A 36-40 inch leader with a 1 ounce weight at the bottom and a fake lure- his looked like a big long tadpole green in color - direct on the leader about 3 feet up from the bottom weight. Light jigging and letting it settle... I hate him. But that's another story hedod a great job lol
Brute,
the more you fish, same type of fishing but different locations, the more you learn from these vets. but then what do i know... :D ;D
looking forward fishing with you...
Hehe, yeah I'm reading so much. There's so much that goes into it, I never realized!
Me too I'm looking forward to meeting people to fish with, most of my friends want nothing to do with it because it's yucky and smells fishy lol
Quote from: Brute347 on March 30, 2014, 06:13:07 PM
...most of my friends want nothing to do with it because it's yucky and smells fishy lol
they don't know what they're missing...
I concur, they require an edumacation. The only thing better than fishing from the rocks is casting into the rocks from a small boat.
Ron
Oh so true, I was there 5 hours, caught nothing! But I had so much fun, 5 hours went by in what felt to be 20 minutes.
I don't get people who'd rather be in a mall or watching tv when there's so many better ways to experience life and what it has to offer!
That's my friend and her fish!
She has quite a catch. Good going. When I take people fishing I would rather they catch because it means I have a future fishing buddies.
I still hate her. Lol
Hi guys,
The fact that your fishing partner caught an you didn't, isn't something to worry about, maybe the next time is your turn. You will find through a fishing life there are days when 'you' can do no wrong, and all around you can't catch – other days, the shoe is on the other foot, and nothing you can do will get the slightest bite!! That's fishing life.
From a distance surf angler's perspective, can only dream about such a fishing structure, to walk out then launch big baits out into the much deeper water – to see what is prowling around out there. We don't have such 'man-made' structures here, we have to rely on what nature has provided, but it is always the deeper water that has attraction. Can't look at any body of water, and wonder what is swimming there that is catchable!
Fishing is an addiction, been hooked for 54 years to the best of my reckoning, wives and girlfriends come and go, brief interludes with other sports and activities, but we always come back to fishing – in whatever form we pursue. I am fortunate in now having a wife that has as much passion about fishing as I do, and she now tells me when we will be going fishing – even if I hadn't planned on it.
Perhaps there should be government warnings about our addiction and advisory bodies – like 'Anglers Anonymous'???
Cheers from sunny Africa
Jeri
Hi, my name is Ron, I fish a lot and that is not a problem. I don't fish ALL THE TIME, and that IS a problem.
12 steps complete. ;D ;D
Ron
Hi Ron,
Been there, done that, got the T' shirt. Now live within sound of the ocean, just to get my daily 'fix'. Trouble is too busy building rods to make the 1/2 mile journey to drown some bait!!!! Perhaps I should move closer???? :D
Cheers from sunny Africa,
Jeri
Haha, you guys are funny.
I used to be dropped off at a lake at 5 am and picked up at 10 at night when I was around 12. Would have so much fun on my own catching nothing, lol. Now I'm 30 and I still like fishing. Work and school have kept me from it but now that I have more time and it allows for me to fish I'm taking it. Going again this Saturday see if I catch more than a sun burn. I feel like my setup is wrong though- I'm not sure as to what artificial lures I should buy; colors, lengths, shapes, etc I'm just not sure but I'll keep trying to do some research. Otherwise I'll go back to my trusty squid with a bottom weight and toss it out as far as I can and see if letting it sit brings me luck lol
If you are fishing those rocks, I would bring some sacrificial weights as the fish hold tight to the structure and you are likely going to lose a lot of rigs. Some small rocks tied with cotton twine would be ideal. Make the knot or line between the weight and your mainline as weak as that will allow you to break off easily if snagged. Use mussel, squid, pile worms, sand worms, blood worms. If you stay closer to the shore, then fish right around the breakers. A lot of near shore surf species hunt around there. Corbinas, yellowfin and spotfin croakers, and surf perch haunt this area. You might be able to catch some halibuts around there too. For halibuts, if you can get some live smelts by using a sabiki, it would be killer on a carolina rig. There are also ling cod, cabezon (your friend's fish), and calico bass around there too. They hold tight to the rocks also.
Hope this give you some idea of what to try on the jetties next time. PS. make sure you both have license as some jetties are treated as ocean facing piers while other are not.
The old man always taught us to fish where the second breaker out was crashing for halibut. Their are sand crabs on that beach, and I always did real good with them.
Ron
That helps a lot, what are the " breakers"?
We both bought licenses too since we'll be trying other jettys as soon as I find where others are and also surf fishing- gotta find those places too.
She got snagged about 6 times, lost a bunch of 3/4 ounce bullet weights- I think I'll just go to Home Depot and buy some nuts - or is that unhealthy for the water?/ marine life
I use squid, never used worms in the ocean before or mussels, I saw some worm bait at Walmart by big gulp but they're huge, how would you tie that to a hook? They're artificial just to be clear
If you get Berkeley gulp, the best I have found are the camo sand worms. I have tried most colors of sand worms and also gulp blood worms and sand crabs as well as I used to fish in a lot of shore fishing tournaments and the camp did the best.
Quote from: Brute347 on April 01, 2014, 06:17:51 AM
That helps a lot, what are the " breakers"?
We both bought licenses too since we'll be trying other jettys as soon as I find where others are and also surf fishing- gotta find those places too.
She got snagged about 6 times, lost a bunch of 3/4 ounce bullet weights- I think I'll just go to Home Depot and buy some nuts - or is that unhealthy for the water?/ marine life
I use squid, never used worms in the ocean before or mussels, I saw some worm bait at Walmart by big gulp but they're huge, how would you tie that to a hook? They're artificial just to be clear
I used to use the nuts also but have since resorted to using rocks which is better for the environment and free. I have also heard of people using tobacco bags filled with sand as weight. Just make sure the connection between the weight and the rest of your rig is the weakest, ie if you are using 15 lbs mainline then use 6 lbs line to tie on the weight.
The breakers are where the surf breaks onto the shore. Typically about 20-30 feet from the shore.
Mussels are easy to find but a pain to use. However all fish love it. The worms you can buy from many of the local tackle stores.
As for the gulp products, I have not had much luck from the jetties but they work great around the breakers. You just have to fish them with a carolina rig and work it slowly.
Have fun and good fishing.
Quote from: Brute347 on April 01, 2014, 04:13:24 AM
...now that I have more time...
and the money too! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Brute347 on April 01, 2014, 04:13:24 AM
...I feel like my setup is wrong though...
next Saturday is a different day. experience and of course the AT.com people are the best teachers... :) :) :)
Lol Mel b- I'm enjoying the shopping for the gear- I gotta confess lol. If you guys are thinking of a level wind bait casting reel the lexa 300 high speed is awesome! The daiwa lever drag 20's are incredible too! I'm having so much fun with those- I'm sorting out the rods too so far the teramars feel great- I got a 7'6" 15-30 on its way- they screwed up shipping shoulda had it since last week :/
Quote from: Brute347 on April 01, 2014, 06:32:26 PM
...lexa 300 high speed is awesome!...
i think it's good buy because i haven't yet read negative comments about this reel. also check this out;
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=10148.30 PAGE 3 LAST POST
That gave me a head ache lol
I read lexa 300 than a bunch of #s and letters lol
I really liked it. I didn't get to use the teramar 20-40 with my new saltist lever drag hyper speed cause my friend got really tired so we went home- I was all ready and geared up for night fishing but she just couldn't do it. She bought me lunch at a Thai restaurant down the street do I forgave her for shortening my fishing trip lol
Quote from: Brute347 on April 01, 2014, 09:35:03 PM
...cause my friend got really tired... but she just couldn't do it.
she has to go to the gym or fish more. i recommend the latter because it's cheaper for her...
Quote from: Brute347 on April 01, 2014, 09:35:03 PM
...She bought me lunch at a Thai restaurant...
reason why you have to go fishing with her more often...
:) ;) ;D
Lol, yeah she's coming this Saturday
My new addition, seems good?
one day i'll find out your name. for the meantime i'll call you Brute... ;D ;D ;D
bought my plane tickets today and will be home(USofA) the 28th of this month and i'm planning to do a 3/4 day fishing on the M/V San Diego. i think i really need to do this a few times, to have on the boat experience/practice, before the Ohana trip. maybe i can interest you in this trip. wanna fish on the M/V San Diego? let me know... :)
What's the m/v San Diego- and if it doesn't conflict with work- sure!
My name is Benjamin btw
Quote from: Brute347 on April 02, 2014, 06:07:58 AM
What's the m/v San Diego- and if it doesn't conflict with work- sure!
http://www.seaforthlanding.com/pages/San%20Diego.php
You scared me with that one- that's way above my pay grade lol
Quote from: Brute347 on April 03, 2014, 05:31:29 AM
You scared me with that one- that's way above my pay grade lol
:)
So I bought about every artificial lure gulp makes for saltwater but I'm stuck at the doctors damnit!
Quote from: Brute347 on April 05, 2014, 07:02:27 PM
...but I'm stuck at the doctors damnit!
even worst the doctor is stuck with you... ;D ;D ;D
Ugh, I caught nothing!
Got one halibut bite and right before I could get him up on the rocks he decided to let go, lol
Quote from: Brute347 on April 07, 2014, 03:07:20 PMGot one halibut bite and right before I could get him up on the rocks he decided to let go, lol
That must have been exciting.
I tell you, the sand worms in Camo is the best.
Benjamin,
it's one of those days and it will not be the last. at least you went to fish. was there free dinner? ;D ;D ;D
Haha! No, she couldn't make it. I did meet some hotties from japan though
They were freaking out over the rocks shaking when the waves hit.
It was fun even though I didn't catch anything
Where's the pics??? ;D
Quote from: Brute347 on April 07, 2014, 04:04:23 PM
It was fun even though I didn't catch anything
now that's what i'm talking about. but wait how about the video when these hotties were freaking out.;D ;D ;D
I'm going again this Saturday, I ordered a teramar SE medium heavy 15-25 7'6 so I'm gonna try that out. My 15-30 is a tad big too stiff I'm thinking maybe I wasn't feeling bites so I wasn't setting the hook cause of lack of sensitivity.... That's my excuse to buy another rod anyway lol don't correct me if I'm wrong lol!
Benjamin, i don't know if this language is allowed here, just a reminder there is a rule here called the "12 yr old". it refers to Alan T.'s daughter. also check the Ohana board there are 2 polls there that you might be interested in.
i'll be fishing for 2 days and 2 nights starting tomorrow, i'll be back thursday. till then...
Oh hehe! Sorry I was just stating what I saw lol
Good luck to you, I gotta wait til Saturday for my chance
Before I forget to ask- I was told that you don't need a license to fish off of the jettys in Southern California??
I'll check out the rods, I've been going to a lot of tackles shops and everyone keeps suggesting I have one custom made but that sounds very pricy- if seems every guy that works out turners outdoors makes rods on the side
Quote from: Brute347 on April 08, 2014, 03:16:42 AM
...I was told that you don't need a license to fish off of the jettys in Southern California??
you need a license, only on piers allowed without one...bottom of page 3 of 2014-2015 Ocean Sport Fishing Regulations.
Chef out each rod that you buy by flexing it. Rest the button of the rod on the floor and let the tip of the rod rest on the palm of your hand then with the other hand press down on the rod. The rod should turn to the bend. The guides should be on top for a spinner or on the bottom for a casting rod. Once you find a rod that has the guides on the proper side, hold the rod out in one had with arm extended and the guides facing down. Then look at all of the guides one by one. The rod should direct each guide in half. If not the guides are crooked. Then, if the store will let you, mount your reel and thread your line through the rod and ask the sales person to hold the line and flex the threaded rod. As the sales person to pull and make a few jersey like there is a fish on the end of the line. This will give you a feel of the rod in your hands. Then I buy what I like... only a few stores have allowed me to do this in SoCal. Performance Tackle off of Katella I think, that fishing store off of Bell and knocks I think and long fin in Orange.
Yeah I've been doing that. I am not yet accustomed to what they should feel like. There is so much difference from line to rods to weights to lengths, it's such a complex process of having exact matches so nothing is thrown off. Free spin of the reel matters so much too.
I'm trying to find a rod that will be sensitive to small nibbles and when I pull to set the hook it won't bend like it's got a 50 pound fish in there but just enough to snap back after the jerk.
The 15-30 teramar feels great at 7'6 and 7'11" but I want just a by more flex overall.
I am not having much luck with the jettys and I'm thinking it's because I'm not detecting nibbles.
I did cast out of the pear with a 4" grub and I have a really hard and strong pull and it bent the rod really god but it unhook. I almost forgot that happened cause I was so annoyed by the people next up me with the radio blasting. Ugh
So were gonna see this sat. Rod gets here Thursday I'm gonna put the lexa 300 on it.
I did learn recently that, a 3/4 ounce weight lets me cast as far as a 2 ounce. I think it's because the rod snaps the weight better cause it gets a better bend than the 2 ounce, which essentially gets lobbed instead of casted.
Very cool to be learning all this stuff.
If i don't start catching soon I'm gonna start hand lining or spear fishing lol
I agree with everything Bryan says, of course, but I also simulate a medium cast with the rod back and forth. Sort of like false casting a fly rod. This loads the rod up in a dynamic way and I really get to feel where the power is and how much flex there is in the but, if any.
Ron
Quote from: Brute347 on April 08, 2014, 03:16:42 AM
Before I forget to ask- I was told that you don't need a license to fish off of the jettys in Southern California??
Some jetties are considered piers since they are man-made and ocean facing. On those you are allowed to fish without a license. I always buy a license though since there are time when I want to fish the beach for surf species before heading onto the jetties or piers. Definitely any of the public docks inside Newport Beach harbor require a license.
Look for a rod with an extra fast tapor. The rod should be labeled extra fast. This is where only the tip flexes. The tip will usually be very soft but the rest of the blank will be stout.
If extra fast is not available, choose fast. I do not fish anything less than a fast taper when tossing jigs, artificials,... it gives me better control of the lure action and fighting the fish from the rocks/beach.
Max, for fishing off of the surf, can I do it anywhere or is it designated beaches only??? I've gone to zuma beach and higher up north but where I've fished there hasn't been any people Round. Here in the la area there's people everywhere...
Also- a guy I talked to at the rocks told me he got a ticket for fishing at the docs, but I'm not sure if it was because he didn't have a license or another reason
The rod I got is a medium heavy fast action, arrives tomorrow- I'm excited. Got red sand works and 4" swimming mullets from amazon today
Brute,
Yup you can fish at almost all beaches except for a few that are in the mlpas. The only thing is if there are a lot of swimmers, surfers, etc around, the lifeguards may asked you to leave. As for the ticket for fishing the docks, most of the docks in LA county do not allow fishing and only about 6-7 docks are available for fishing in Newport harbor. Look up the following hardbaits : luckycraft, megabass, etc..They can be deadly for surf fishing for halibuts. My biggest from the shore was about 32 inches or so and caught about 30 feet from shore on a slow retrieve.
When I look up luckycraft and mega bass, what am I looking for specifically? The search throws a bunch of stuff at me. And halibut is what I want to get good at catching. But I'm getting a lot of mixed information. I get a lot of people who say fish with heavy gear and only live bait and others who say fish really light gear because they are scared of the fishing line and things like that.
I've been casting out where the water breaks ( casting from the rocks) and retrieving against the current so the mullets or little imitation worms look more lively. So far I've only had one halibut bite. I'm going to try again this Saturday with a much lighter rod. I'm hoping I've been missing the bites.
Being that the only available time I have is the weekends, I have been fishing in really crappy weather/ water. Really rough water and cloudy skies. As far as weather and water conditions go, I just try and hope for the best, no other choice, lol
Thanks for the advice though I welcome all information if just takes a whole to make sense of it and process it lol
I found their top 5 colors, there's one called sexy smelt it's 50 dollars lol that's a heart attack if I get snagged lol
I have yet caught a halibut, but have felt one biting and spitting out my bait...and I got too excited and tried to set the hook prematurely and poof he was gone.
Slow retrieve is the best with a short, quick snap (1" wrist snap) if you are fishing in the sand to bring up a puff of sand and let the jig rest for a second or so then slow retrieve and snap...
I have described my halibut technique earlier. Light rig, white twin tailed scampi just as slow as you can stand.
Ron
Benjamin,
IMHO it's better to have a license and you'll be also contributing to the preservation of the planet, I HOPE... :D ;D
I will try the techniques you guys suggested!
And i do have a license, I was mostly curious because last Saturday I forgot mine lol went to the doctors and completely forgot to grab it from my watch case so I fished with out it- that's when looked it up and asked other people on the jetty if you needed a license, they said no except for the guy who got a ticket at the docks
Brute,
PM me your address. I'll send you one of my extra Luckycraft lure. I usually fish it with 30 lb braid and use a swivel if I want to change to a carolina rig. I do have a third grip holder to allow me to carry an tra rod without carrying a backback.
No- thank you those are yours I'd feel bad. I looked at their prices and they're very expensive lol
But thank you I appreciate it, I'll just have to wait for some extra cash to buy that Ms anchovy. I read it's their best lure for halibut!
My rod is at home, gotta get through 2 hrs of traffic then I'm gonna go set it up for Saturday morning fishing- Friday can't get here fast enough lol
Brute,
I think your fishing too HEAVY IMHO. My experience in fishing halibut derbys etc is that the max line I would use is !5# test and thats heavy for me. Ive caught many halibut (up to 25#) on 12# mono. In regards to lures/bait for halibut, Im with Bryan on the camo colored sand worm by Gulp. However, Ive caught them on AA size swim baits and 3" swim baits with a SLOOOOOW retrieve. Try scaling back in your gear and maybe take a 12/15# outfit with you next time. Also try setting some swim baits up with trap hooks to increase your hookups.
Leo
I've got 30 lb braid on the reel, I can put a 12 lb leader on it. I do have the worms by gulp, both the camp and the red, 6" long. Gonna try em out this sat!
Brute,
Cut the sand worms into short 2-3" sections and thread onto hook. You dont need the entire worm.
Leo
PS If you have the chance/time, visit Pete @ JustFishing in Redondo Beach on 190thSt and Anza. He's a wealth of info.
Been here since 6 haven't gotten a bite, ugh.
Been using the whole worm, been using the 4" gulp smelt, nothing. The water is really murky though :/
Gonna go walk over to the docs see if you can fish there maybe the structures will be hiding fish
Starting to get discouraged though
The rod is great though lol
Gonna see about the bait shop maybe once I leave
Quote from: Brute347 on April 12, 2014, 04:18:24 PM
Been here since 6 haven't gotten a bite, ugh.
Starting to get discouraged though
don't get discouraged, it's called fishing not getting. ;D and don't forget patience is a virtue.:) btw will there be dinner? ;D
Lol yes if I catch something otherwise no lololololol
Woo hoo!
And another little 1!
nice calico bass
told ya! patience... :)
COOL BEANS!!
Man I'd sit and catch those all day. Great fun and great eating.
Ron
Got quite a few fish. Cutting them into 2 inch pieces did the trick on the worms
I guess there wasn't anything big around to catch. I met a guy using shrimp and mackerel and when I ised shrimp I kept getting hits like crazy
What is this
nice sculpin (scorpion fish) and nice blacksmith perch.
for the calico bass, size limit is 14 in minimum
for the sculpin it is 10 in
no size limit on the blacksmith perch
It's been so long since I've seen s blacksmith that I forgot all about them!
Glad you had fun.
Ron
Brute,
Where are you fishing at? I seem to recall those rocks behind you and that fish your holding! PM me and I'll give you a call (im in LA).
Leo
Hey,
Yeah I had tons of fun. Thanks everyone for your advice and suggestions, it helped a lot.
I have a few more fish to put up for you guys to see, I didn't find these fish in the booklet, the scorpion fish stung me lol that was fun
I was at redondo beach on their longest jetty by the dock. It took like 30 minutes to walk to the end, I was wearing sandals lol
Benjamin, only missing is free dinner at an asian restaurant huh? ;D ;D ;D
Haha, there's going to be lunch and Movie today lol
She went to Mexico Friday and sat
Benjamin,
i'll be in Los Angeles, God willing, the 28th of this month. if you don't have any plans the 1st wknd of May maybe we can do off my rocks, oops i mean off the rocks fishing. i will be in touch, till then enjoy the movie and lunch but most of all enjoy the company... :)
Quote from: noyb72 on April 13, 2014, 06:22:12 AM
It's been so long since I've seen s blacksmith that I forgot all about them!
Glad you had fun.
Ron
ron,
when you are coming for your ohana trip if you are here a few days early, you should definitely fish mission bay and such. if you have transportation you should fish the military beach at the seal beach armory. i have fished the other side of the fence and looked longingly at that beach as it could hold some monster halibuts. i know i caught a few on this side of the fence.
I've fished Seal beach and love it, but I'm planning on fishing the ASW base mostly. Almost no one fishes there, in June the bight should be so hot that you can catch a fish with anything. Even the bonefish come around from time to time.
Ron
ron,
do you have any hard stick bait like a luckycraft metallic sardine? those worked great on halibuts and corvinas.
Quote from: noyb72 on April 13, 2014, 07:41:19 PM
I've fished Seal beach and love it, but I'm planning on fishing the ASW base mostly. Almost no one fishes there, in June the bight should be so hot that you can catch a fish with anything. Even the bonefish come around from time to time.
Ron
TRUE THAT! I used to fish the beach at Poin Magoo Naval Weapons systems after I serviced their super computers. I would schedule my appointments for after lunch time so I could spend the balance of the day fishing. FANTASTIC FISHING cause no one fished the beach.
Leo
I have a few, but the area I'm fishing normally does well with a soft curly tailed bait. Swimbaits worked, but not as well as the curly tails.
Ron
Where are these places you guys are talking about?!
We should fish for sure if time allows Mel, hopefully I'm better at it by then.
I noticed that definitely, the weather and time of day play a huge role on whether you'll catch or not. I had the gulp shrimp baits with me and at the later part of the afternoon I cut them in 3/4 inch pieces and just used the tail end and that was getting me bites.
I guess Ill have to stick to smaller fish til I can figure out how to find the big ones because nothing was hitting the bigger soft baits. The guy I was with said he caught 7 halibut the day before off of the very spot we were in but that day he didn't get anything.
Mmm hmmm mushrooms, asparagus and the fish so good
White rice on the side with fish sauce
Look what came in for this sat!
very nice lure. Go buy some 3x or 4x owner's treble and change out the hooks when you have a chance. The stock hooks are good but I have bent them on big halibut before. Some people forgo the middle hook by changing to a slightly large size treble front and back hooks.
You cook the fish Whole? It still looks Delicious! ;)
Ron, I can remember offloading at Seal Beach before my Ship made the Trip to Vancouver for the Worlds Fair. That has been a long time ago. The Memory that sticks in my mind, was that while we were offloading our good stuff. Big Mo came Cruising by. (The U.S.S. Missouri) Everyone stopped what they were doing to watch her. It was almost cartoonish all the Guns Hanging off of her. I'll never forget that! ;D
Sculpin - one of the tastiest fish around but the pack a punch with its spines. Got poked once and my hand swelled for a good 1/2 hour before I could fish again. I am lucky too that the poison didn't effect me as much. I have seen people with swellings lasting the whole fishing day.
I can't get away from Mo. When I reported to Bangor one of the first things I did was help get her ready to move to Pearl and now I see her every day across the harbor. My kids tour her every year with school and we have some guys work on her during Chief transition.
Ron
I'm Glad to Hear she is still in one piece! ;D
Oh yah, she is well cared for now. The way it is looking I'll retire on her fan tail in a few years.
Ron
Quote from: Shark Hunter on April 16, 2014, 05:41:55 AM
You cook the fish Whole? It still looks Delicious! ;)
Ron, I can remember offloading at Seal Beach before my Ship made the Trip to Vancouver for the Worlds Fair. That has been a long time ago. The Memory that sticks in my mind, was that while we were offloading our good stuff. Big Mo came Cruising by. (The U.S.S. Missouri) Everyone stopped what they were doing to watch her. It was almost cartoonish all the Guns Hanging off of her. I'll never forget that! ;D
Yea, the Moussouri is parked in San Pedro Harbor for tours AMAZING!
Leo
Hey guys, yes. I'm Hispanic so we cook fish whole the head has tasty bits of meat lol
I took the lures for a spin but nothing. I keep getting really bad weather whenever I go. The waves were crashing on the jetty so hard, when the water would come in its come up like 7 feet. I lose about 9 3/4 ounce weights I kept getting snagged, the waves crushed my water bucket, lol.
What else- I fished from 6 am til 1130 pm, nothing. Tons of bites but no fish- it might be I'm baiting for too big a fish that's not around where I'm fishing.
Do not use water treading shoes- my lord my feet hurt so bad!!!!
Uh- just to vent. I took a friend and he pissed me off- scratched my lexa 300 and one of my daiwa saltist lever drag reels and of course both the teramar rods. He was treating my gear like it was 19.99 on sale half off for 9.99 stuff! Last time he comes. That stuff is brand new gd it!
I need to do more research. I tried using 12 pound line, that was stupid. I completely forgot that's for the surf so I got screwed there, gonna go get me some 30 lb p line once I've eaten breakfast.
I kid you all not- greatest thing. A guy up from me HAD a 199.99 rod from Walmart that he bought years ago, had 2 spark plugs he was using as bait and had the biggest sculpin I have ever seen, easily 30 inches!!!!! Monstrous, I let him borrow my measuring tape because he was worried the one he had just caught wouldn't make the cut. And last month he got a 700 dollar ticket for too small a sculpin. Insane, 700... Yes 2 zeros
all in, I had fun. Just disappointed that my stuff got abused and I didn't punch him in the face.
Next sat I'm gonna see if I can go to palos verdes I've heard it's gorgeous!!!!
And yes- the sting from a sculpin is pretty good, I got stung on the hand last week and it hurt, and my smart but had the fish in a plastic bag- so guess what happened? I was walking with it and took about 4 more stings right at the base of my calf and that felt nice shifting my car with a sorta numb foot lol
glad you're ok on the sting Brute. Next time if you catch a keeper sculpin, use your pliers or scissors and clip off all the spines. prevent any possible sting.
Hey max, thanks. It wasn't that bad I survived, didn't have to or on myself or anything!
If feel bad clipping them, I figure if he gets to sting me and I eat him at least he gets that much lol
Quote from: Brute347 on April 20, 2014, 05:57:53 PM
Uh- just to vent. I took a friend and he pissed me off- scratched my lexa 300 and one of my daiwa saltist lever drag reels and of course both the teramar rods. He was treating my gear like it was 19.99 on sale half off for 9.99 stuff! Last time he comes. That stuff is brand new gd it!
all in, I had fun. Just disappointed that my stuff got abused and I didn't punch him in the face.
dont you all hate when this happens?
its not happen with me anymore, since few years I have for the beach/rocks: a loaner spinning combo, a loaner casting combo
from a boat : a loaner casting combo.
no ones is using my personal rods and reels anymore, good thing that my close friends are using same or better gear than me so no problem when going fishing with them, they care for the rigs too, family and co-workers are the ones that use the loaner rigs LOL.