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Title: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: cmaraj1 on May 06, 2014, 01:40:33 AM
hey guys
jus went on my first charter boat in key largo,  heading to spot was fine, but as soon as we anchored and started to fish , i got this crazy headache...

and i was sidelined for rest of trip....... :(
it was 1 to 2 foot chop is what the captain said...
boat jus kept rocking and rocking and rocking,
they had some french tourists there with  lil kids and man they were worst off than me, felt so bad for those kids....

any advice on what i can take???
i did take something call trans...,.,,..,. i forget the rest...
but i took it after i got sick????

boats name is SAILORS CHOICE,  KEY LARGO FLORIDA
the two man crew was very friendly
people were catching some mangrove and yellowtails and porgys
idk i think i will stick to piers and surfs for my fishing funn...


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: johndtuttle on May 06, 2014, 02:23:20 AM
You may have been simply dehydrated (which contributes to motion sickness too).

A Headache is more consistent with that.

Motion sickness really is nausea and dizziness. Over the counter Dramamine is effective, if mildly sedating. Patches, pills, your choice. Never hurts to talk to your doctor about it either.

I find catching fish usually fixes me right up if I get a touch of the queasy. Going below and sleeping is generally the worst idea. If it's a six pack or smaller charter a very brief stint at the wheel just driving straight at slow speed will stop it if the captain will allow it. Something to do with the input from the wheel re-orienting your inner ear telling it you are not falling.

Just like driving a car it's pretty much only the passengers that get it.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Shark Hunter on May 06, 2014, 02:23:43 AM
Dramamine. You need to take it ahead of time. They also make a patch to help with the sea sickness. Dominick wears one.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: texkan on May 06, 2014, 03:14:00 AM
Another over-the-counter motion sickness medication is meclizine. It has proven effective for my wife. There are several prescription medications that are very effective but, obviously, you will have to get a prescription from your doctor.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: bluefish69 on May 06, 2014, 03:19:03 AM
The Patch is Transderm - V  = Scapotermine You need a script for these & you can use them for 72 straight hours

Spelling doesn't count

Mike


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Aiala on May 06, 2014, 03:54:28 AM
Here y'go:  http://www.medicinenet.com/scopolamine-transdermal/article.htm

Seems to work very effectively for the folks who need them. I believe, however, that they must be applied prior to the onset of motion sickness.  :)

~A~


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Bryan Young on May 06, 2014, 06:10:21 AM
I like scopace, and unfortunately it is no longer available.  I hate the scopolomine patch.  It is much too strong for me.  Eating ginger candy also helps. 


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: OldSchool on May 06, 2014, 11:25:42 AM
My understanding motion and sea sickness are all one in the same. Essentially its the nausea experienced by the confusion between your eyes and your ears, the eyes and ears send conflicting messages to the brain and subsequently nausea is experienced. To assist,
-if possible look at the land line and focus or focus on the horizon if sick.
-Avoid exhaust fumes off the motor
-Dont look down or at the rails and other straight lines as they rock to and fro
-Natural Ginger can help prior to nausea
-Drinking coke prior to leaving
- Bands that press on points on your wrists
-medication which thickens the fluid within the ear.

I believe you can actually go and get a custom made medication to take, im unsure whats involved but i have seen the adverts for it. The charter captain was calling one remedy a "hair-tail" and he had told me a lot of people take it when they do the 5 day tournaments, and from recollection I beleive its from New Zealand? 


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: philaroman on May 06, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
I get it really bad.  Dramamine never worked, until I figured out that I have to start micro-doses about 36 hrs. in advance.  Instead of 2 pills 1-2 hrs. in advance as directed, I take 1/2 pill every 6-8 hrs. for more than a day; than 1 pill when I wake up; 1 more 1 hr. before boat-time; and maybe 1 more 4-5 hrs. into the trip...  Basically, I have to walk a fine line between not enough & mild overdose, so I can handle 3-4' swells during half-day trips.  Otherwise, I chum from light chop on a windy lake  >:( :( :'(


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Dominick on May 06, 2014, 10:21:14 PM
Here y'go:  http://www.medicinenet.com/scopolamine-transdermal/article.htm

Seems to work very effectively for the folks who need them. I believe, however, that they must be applied prior to the onset of motion sickness.  :)

~A~
Right you are Aiala.  I could not fish without the patch.  The secret is to place the patch behind your ear before going to bed the night before fishing.  It does cause dry mouth but the other secret is to keep yourself hydrated.  I have suffered what I thought was overdosed scopolamine.  It turns out I was suffering from optical migraines from getting dehydrated.  Now all I get is a little dry mouth.  I think scopolamine is a wonder drug.  Secondarily one can use Bonine which is meclizine.  As with all these drugs they are preventative.  They do not work once you get sick.  In Mexico they sell meclizine under the name Bonadoxina.  Use it the day and evening before you fish and it will work wonders.  Dominick


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Norcal Pescador on July 30, 2014, 04:09:29 AM
I got a little queasy during Alan's 5-day last month. I put on a Scopolamine patch and started felling better in about 6 hours. I forgot my ginger chews which have worked well (and fairly rapidly) for those I've given them to. I get the chews at Trader Joe's and/or Cost Plus - World Imports.

Absolutely, don't go below. Look at the horizon, take the helm if you can, and if you hang over the rail, take your glasses off first. :-\

Staying hydrated works wonders for prevention.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 30, 2014, 06:08:44 AM
Rob,
You really need to come around more often brother. You are one of the originals here. ;)


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: MFB on July 30, 2014, 07:43:52 AM
Bundaberg ginger beer always settles my stomach always throw a couple in the chilly bin.

Rgds

Mark



Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: harryk3616 on July 30, 2014, 02:11:40 PM
its the motion of the ocean !   as a kid and up into my mid 30's i got sea sick every time i went out, i chummed all day, next to gout, i think it's the worst sickness to have, you just want to die.  i loved fishing so much, i just kept going and chumming, as soon as the boat stopped and you rocked back and forth, it was all over.  back and forth, up and down, yikes murder. i would find a place to lie down, not inside and try to sleep it off, chummed so much, bile would come out, they didn't have patches back then. so, i just kept on going,and going and going, chumming ,and chumming etc etc until i finally was able to over come it, i would sit on the motor box looking out the back of the boat, on the edge, i could go one way or another, then all of a sudden i felt good and i was able to fish and not chum, but let me tell you, i can't begin to tell you how many times i got sick, terrible but the thrill of fishing kept me going, i feel for every one that gets sick, i know what your going thru, hang in there.  on a outboard boat 22' or so no problem ,rock all day long, on a party boat, i was ralphing all day,   good luck.   harryk


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Norcal Pescador on July 30, 2014, 05:22:50 PM
Rob,
You really need to come around more often brother. You are one of the originals here. ;)

Thanks. I had a couple of things going on and had to bail for a while. But now I'll be around to make my insightful and sarcastic posts. ;D  At least until Alan takes away my key to the executive porta-pot and gives me the boot.  ;)


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 30, 2014, 05:31:57 PM
Its Good to have you Back. ;) Let the Sarcasm Begin! ;D


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Quoc_Pham on July 30, 2014, 06:13:12 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Band-Adult-Wristband-Color-1-Pair/dp/B001F731N0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406743855&sr=8-1&keywords=motion+sickness+bands (http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Band-Adult-Wristband-Color-1-Pair/dp/B001F731N0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406743855&sr=8-1&keywords=motion+sickness+bands)

I've used these to much success... it puts slight pressure on the inside of your wrist on a tendon? I don't know how it works... witchcraft or something but I haven't gotten sick with this and some OTC "meclizine" which is the active ingredient in all motion sickness pills.

Good luck!

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Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: anglingarchitect on July 30, 2014, 06:46:10 PM
I used to get sick, but it's pretty rare now. If I know I'm going on and overnighter or in really bad weather I ware the patch and it's a wonder drug, I have been in some terrible weather for many hours and never feel anything but a little drousy with the patch.

Do the wrist bands work?


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Quoc_Pham on August 02, 2014, 02:45:52 AM
I used to get sick, but it's pretty rare now. If I know I'm going on and overnighter or in really bad weather I ware the patch and it's a wonder drug, I have been in some terrible weather for many hours and never feel anything but a little drousy with the patch.

Do the wrist bands work?

I haven't had a problem with the bands... but I've never gone on anything over a 3/4 day


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: jonnou on August 02, 2014, 08:19:13 AM
I never got more than mildly nautious until I Sailed to Fiji from New Zealand. It took seven days and the first 3 were very uncomfortable. The whole crew and captain suffered
 some were very experienced Bluewater sailors
It is a natural reaction of the body. But it will adjust. Stay positive and recognise the reasons
It will help.
 Ginger of any kind really helps a lot
 even a sniff if you cant keep anything down.
Also when it was a sailors turn on the helm You could see the colour return to their Faces
Hang in there
Jon


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: anglingarchitect on August 02, 2014, 08:24:10 PM
Gotta try Ginger, I like ginger but never tried it.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: handi2 on August 02, 2014, 10:07:44 PM
I don't get seasick anymore but I always have Bonine on hand. Take one the night before and one in the morning.

If allowed getting in the water, holding a rope, will make it go away or attract more fish..!!


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: jonnou on August 02, 2014, 10:53:19 PM
Lol human ground bait  :D


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: seaeagle2 on August 07, 2014, 12:58:17 AM
If you're on a charter / party boat, stay away from the diesel fumes, that's often enough to push people over the edge......


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Steve-O on August 14, 2014, 04:00:21 AM
I always have Bonine on hand. Take one the night before and one in the morning.

That does the ticket for me. The one at bedtime makes me loopy..but the one in the morning makes the boat trip a home run.

We had a half day charter for 3 anglers plus the captain in a 24'  Olympic in AK one year. Fished the inside for rockfish then the outside for halibut. My bro in law got green fast, i even felt woozy until the Mt. Dew- sugar and caffeine accelerated the Bonine. Lit me right up and went to jigging for halibut. Fishing was slow until my bro in law started " chumming".  We asked - should we go back to the inside?  Between gags he yells all slurred..   noooo!  Keeeeeeep fiiishiiing! Uuuuuurrrrppp!!

We still retell that one when he gets on a boat.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Maxed Out on November 09, 2014, 05:29:08 PM
I used to get sea sick just looking at a mud puddle.

It took a few years of trying different things before I found the right cure for me and a few of my methods are also used by many fishing friends.

First off, I don't do pills, patches, or anything like that, never have, never will.

Rule #1  I always eat dinner early the night before a fishing trip and stay upright at least an hour before going to bed, this helps move digestion along so I don't wake up in the morning with a queezy 3/4 full stomach.....and no alcohol the night before can help also.

Rule #2  No coffee or food prior to heading out, that only gives your stomach ammunition.........I'll drink a tiny bit of water in the morning only if I have to, but as the day progresses I always stay hydrated....lots of water, or I could be inviting a migraine headache. Staying hydrated thru the day is important, whether you are fishing or at home.

Rule #3  If I start feeling crappy while out on the water I always fall back on a simple breathing regiment that seems to work about 99% of the time....I breathe slow and methodical, but only breathe in thru my nose and out thru my mouth. Breathe in your nose and out thru your mouth..... rinse lather repeat.... and staring at the horizon never seems to help much, all that does is have you in position ready to chum over the side.

I came up with rule #1 & rule #2 so I don't have to resort to rule #3

 Rule #3 was from from an oldtimer that lived on the ocean most his life and it really does work.

Funny thing about the "behind the ear patch".....you never know if a person is wearing one until they bend over the rail to chum away, seen it many times on party charter boats....so nothing is a 100% foolproof...Ted



Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: wildcard on March 23, 2015, 07:20:30 PM
I hope it's not to soon to jump right in, but here goes!   Being that we get folks from all over, one thing I try to ask is "are you prone to motion sickness"? My go to whizz bang preventative medication is Bonine. I have found that folks complain about the drowsy effects of other over the counter anti-medicines. Absolute key is to start a full day BEFORE you are heading out. Keep your diet bland and no alcohol before your trip, everything in moderation. Eating banana's a couple days before the trip seems to help. A good quality giner-ale ( the kind that makes your nose tingle), Ginger snaps as mentioned help. One other thing that I haven't seen mentioned is Big Red chewing gum, yes Sir it helps! We all have coolers with ice, take a towel soak it in water and throw it in the cooler until it get nice and cold. Take the nice cold towel and wrap it around your neck, it will feel so good. You can even use the same towels and cool down your legs, feet, etc.......  One thing I absolutely frown on aboard my boat is beating up on the guy that's sick. We don't make fun of folks when they have the flu, do we? Stay hydrated with water!  Soda, beer, coffee, etc cannot take the place of water. Good healthy, fairly bland sandwiches. Cold fruit cups, apples, etc ........ not alot of junk food (chips, dorito's, etc...... hurt like crazy if vomited  back up). By being pro-active and honest with our crews, I cannot help but think we have drastically cut back on the amount of ruined days. Frank


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
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Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: AlasKen on May 28, 2015, 06:01:49 AM
My daughter has always got motion sick since she was a baby.  Dramamine works but knocks her out.  She would crawl in the cuddy when we left and crawl out when we returned.  She has tried other including scopalmine (spell). She can take a half dose of Dramamine the night before, a Qtr when she wakes up and another qtr when boarding.  She does not get to sleepy or nauseous. She also eats pickled ginger like for sushi and ginger candy.  Now for the witch doctor stuff.  She tried the bands to no effect.  She now uses a electronic device that looks like a wrist watch.  It emits a slight shock at regular intervals.  She swears by it and no longer takes Dramamine.  You can control the intensity.  I tried on the setting she uses when in rough water and felt like I was being shocked.  I had to turn it way down.  Ken


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: theswimmer on May 28, 2015, 11:13:41 AM
Scopolamine patch. Like Dom stated ,start the night before, maybe 12-15 hours before you get on the boat.
As a kid I never got sick, 9-10 years old , going out with Grandpa from SF on his old Cheoy Lee. Somewhere as an adult I lost that imunity and now I use the patch with neverfail results. We have gone out ferrying a friends sailboat north from Long beach to Moss landing in the winter. Coming around Point Conception with 12-15 and a 24 sec interval I was the only one who did not hurl. I love the patch!


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Bryan Young on May 28, 2015, 01:14:38 PM
Scopolamine patch. Like Dom stated ,start the night before, maybe 12-15 hours before you get on the boat.
As a kid I never got sick, 9-10 years old , going out with Grandpa from SF on his old Choy Lee. Somewhere as an adult I lost that imunity and now I use the patch with neverfail results. We have gone out ferrying a friends sailboat north from Long beach to Moss landing in the winter. Coming around Point Conception with 12-15 and a 24 sec interval I was the only one who did not hurl. I love the patch!

For me, it's Scopace (Scopolamine in a pill form) and 2 packs of Pop Tarts.  And if I continue to drink water and eat thereafter, I'm fine. 


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: theswimmer on May 28, 2015, 02:22:53 PM
The Pop Tarts are a nice touch Bryan!
I usually don't eat until about 10 am or so and then something bland like a plain bagel.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Rancanfish on May 28, 2015, 02:49:09 PM
Bryan, where in the heck did you get pills? (Scopace).  NOS?   ;D


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Bryan Young on May 28, 2015, 03:22:53 PM
I have 3 pills left...they are like GOLD.  I checked with my cousin and she said that they were all sold out 2 years ago, and I believe Alan said that they were not making enough money, so stopped making them.

I heard that they are available in Australia...I'm going to start searching.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: JGB on May 30, 2015, 09:25:55 PM
Ever wonder why my nick name is 'HJ' (horizontal Jim)? Well I used to spend  a lot of time  lying down on deck trying to recover from motion sickness. Yes I get it very bad and have to manage it or we are going in early.
Here is what seems to work the best for me ( not always perfect but it helps):

Hydrate starting the day before.
Apply a Scopace patch the night before ( I put it on my shoulder under my sleeve so I can get at it later). Save the plastic  strips and the package for later use.
Eat on the way to the launch ramp something mild and slightly salty (saltines) avoid eggs and greasy stuff.
Try to be the driver to the ramp and it's even better if you drive the boat.
By now you may have slightly dry mouth (want to spit a lot). this is Ok.
While under way keep busy munching on something with salt ( pumpkin seeds, fritos, crackers).
When fishing try to stay near the stern center of the boat ( least motion) and try to focus on the land or horizon rather than the tip of your rod.
After a few hours of fishing I seem to acclimate ( even better if we are on the bite) and I will start to get hungry ( a great indication you are over the hump and the Scopace is working well).
If the dry mount is getting the worst of you, you can remove the patch and save it to reapply later if you need to increase the dose.
The Scopace seems to need 4-6 hours to to leave your body. I find the the Patch is too strong for continuous use so I regulate it by removal and reapplication of the same patch over 4 days and then I break out a new one if needed ( this is on my annual 7 day trip).

If things just get too bad I try to fall asleep ( down stairs to my bunk , head to the keel line, head turned to the side and right wrist under my head - pressure point. If I manage to fall asleep then wake up my motion sickness seems to reset.

I is a lot of work but that's the price I pay to fish and catch and it works for me.
Jim N.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: wallacewt on May 31, 2015, 01:38:27 AM
went to 3 chemists shops here in oz
regarding sopace in pill form
all of them said,no,no,no
it can have very bad side effects
they refuse to sell it
be careful bryan!


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Rancanfish on May 31, 2015, 03:18:08 AM
Sorry, I call bull pucky.  I used the heck out of it, shared it, rescued peeps already sick.  Never a problem.

Disclaimer;  beer will make you sick if you overdose.   ;D


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Fisherman Paul on May 31, 2015, 09:20:25 AM
I remember when i first went out with our fishing club
on the boat lead heading for pollock i felt not
to great on memory, but when i went out again and
the next time i was fine, in fact after a few years
i could go out when it was a lot worse than the
first time and i felt great, advice given to me
is it's called "finding your sea legs".

It's all to do with "your body and brain" are not used to it,
stick with it and trust me your body and mind will adapted
over time.

I don't go out on the boat now for a good while as the
club sec of that club passed away fighting cancer, a great
guy who fished at world level and i learned a lot from him.

If i went out on a boat tomorrow i bet you i would feel sick.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: borchcl on May 31, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
I used to use the patch, but as others have stated, controlling dosage can be a problem. Then I found Scopace tablets made by Hope Pharmaceutical, in a .04 mg dose, worked great, tablets could be halved as required. Then Hope Pharmaceutical stopped making it. I found a formulating pharmacist locally who would custom build it in capsule form. I had my doctor cut a prescription for 100 caps in a .02 mg dosage that works great. I can take two if I need, but normally take one early, b/4 launching the boat. Most areas have formulating pharmacists who can compound non standard Rx as needed.
Hope this helps someone.
Charlie


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Rancanfish on May 31, 2015, 05:28:17 PM
I can relate F-Paul, if you are saying you lost a good fishing buddy.  
 
My best ocean fishing bud moved to some god-forsaken place called Oregon, and my mentor for stripers and salmon died of stomach cancer, seems like yesterday.  I kinda faded away for awhile but I'm getting back.

I'll get my sea legs again I hope.  But I'm going in my boat so I can go back home if I like.  :D
 


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Dominick on May 31, 2015, 06:14:03 PM
There is no indication that scopace is not still being made.  I never tried it but it is the same drug used in the patch.  If you are concerned check out side effects here.  http://www.drugs.com/cdi/scopace.html Dominick


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Rancanfish on May 31, 2015, 08:55:43 PM
I used to use the patch, but as others have stated, controlling dosage can be a problem. Then I found Scopace tablets made by Hope Pharmaceutical, in a .04 mg dose, worked great, tablets could be halved as required. Then Hope Pharmaceutical stopped making it. I found a formulating pharmacist locally who would custom build it in capsule form. I had my doctor cut a prescription for 100 caps in a .02 mg dosage that works great. I can take two if I need, but normally take one early, b/4 launching the boat. Most areas have formulating pharmacists who can compound non standard Rx as needed.
Hope this helps someone.
Charlie

Charlie, can you PM or post the formulating pharmacist?  I heard this was the way to go a few years back but never followed up.  Thanks for posting some hope.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: borchcl on June 01, 2015, 02:21:12 AM
I live in central Minnesota, and my regular pharmacist recommended two or three formulating pharmacists in this area. The one I used was "The Apothecary" in Sartell MN   http://theapothecarymn.com/
You would, of course need a prescription from your Doctor. I do not know if they do online sales or what the process would be if they do. One could check with a local pharmacist or your doctor, as there should be formulating pharmacies in most locations. At one time most prescriptions were made on site, B/4 giant pharma came along.
Regards
Charlie


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Dominick on June 01, 2015, 02:52:40 AM
Randy I live in San Mateo California and there are 2 formulating pharmacies in my area.  Where are you located?  Dominick


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Bryan Young on June 01, 2015, 04:58:40 AM
Ooh, I need to get a perscription.  Randy is also in the BAY area.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Rancanfish on June 01, 2015, 05:24:30 AM
I'm over the bridge and far away in Dublin.  (Not Ireland).  ;D


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Fisherman Paul on June 01, 2015, 07:52:15 AM
I can relate F-Paul, if you are saying you lost a good fishing buddy.  
 
My best ocean fishing bud moved to some god-forsaken place called Oregon, and my mentor for stripers and salmon died of stomach cancer, seems like yesterday.  I kinda faded away for awhile but I'm getting back.

I'll get my sea legs again I hope.  But I'm going in my boat so I can go back home if I like.  :D
 


Our fishing club fished boat club matches for master angler points
which when qualified the master angler of each club would fish
against each other and top 5 from england,scotland,wales
and ireland would make the team and fish for the world
championships.

8-12 anglers in a boat and on memory i remember i had
10 good size pollock lead heading before anyone else
got even a touch in the first 30' or so, i ended up in last
place, 29 fish won it, that's all i had for the rest of the
day.

I was not worthy to fish with such class and the craic
was brill, mad as hatters, great bunch of guys.

I really miss the club, when i won the master angler
on the shore John (same sec) made the club pay my
entry fee, other clubs you pay your own way.

Life goes so fast, enjoy every minute of it guys, we
are so lucky when you think about it.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: steelfish on April 14, 2016, 07:47:57 PM
.......... In Mexico they sell meclizine under the name Bonadoxina.  Use it the day and evening before you fish and it will work wonders.  Dominick

I tried everything, and as many said, you want to die, well not really but you want to never be on a boat again, but as soon as a friend call you to go fishing you say.. lets do it... ;D.. that was me.

until I tried Cinnarizine, as far as I know its no longer sold in USA (an US friend told me), but we have plenty in Mexico  ;D ;D ;)
if you ever have the chance to try it, do it.. Im not a Doctor, so dont quote me on this, but its not harder on your body than bonine, dramamine, etc..

now I can fish like I always wanted, worrying it only for the fishing and enjoying the day on the water, the breeze, ride on the boat and all the great show that mother nature give you on every fishing trip.



Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Rancanfish on April 15, 2016, 12:09:09 AM
OK, Bryan and I will await your package in the mail labelled 'fish hooks'.

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: handi2 on April 15, 2016, 12:33:30 AM
If anyone on my boat starts to feel bad I throw a rope out back and tell them to get in the water. It cools them off and stops the sickness. For a while anyway..!


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: anglingarchitect on April 15, 2016, 01:00:42 AM
The Patch is Transderm - V  = Scapotermine You need a script for these & you can use them for 72 straight hours

Spelling doesn't count

Mike

This stuff is majic when i go for all day or three days it still works if you can keep it behind your ear.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: johndtuttle on April 15, 2016, 02:40:44 AM
If anyone on my boat starts to feel bad I throw a rope out back and tell them to get in the water. It cools them off and stops the sickness. For a while anyway..!

If you let them drive it cures it.  ;)


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: sdlehr on April 15, 2016, 04:06:17 AM
IMO Oldschool nailed it in reply #7. Motion (sea - same thing) sickness happens when your brain gets conflicting information from your eyes and from your inner ear. The inner ear is the organ of balance. It lets you know when you are moving, and in what direction, or when you are rotating, and in what direction (rotating, moving, same thing). When that tells you you are moving, but your eyes tell you you are not (as in when you look at the boat that is moving with you, so it appears stationary) - you get nauseous. That is why it is recommended that you look at the horizon - it eliminates the conflicting information from your eyes - so both agree. Diesel fumes make motion sickness much worse.

That being said, I'm sure there are conditions that would make even the most seasoned sailor nauseous. Meclizine and dramamine work for most in my experience. Both are available over-the-counter. Meclizine comes as Bonine (trade name) otc in 25mg size. To get 50mg you need a prescription. If it was me I'd take two 25mg doses.

I'm a veterinarian and have to deal with this problem when dogs get car sick. It's the same phenomenon. I've never seen or heard of a cat with motion sickness, even though they are often in carriers which prevents them from looking out the window and reconciling their eyes with their inner ears; there are species differences.

Sid



Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: fishead6n on April 16, 2017, 01:52:53 PM
Even though this is an old thread, it is one that will probably be looked at frequently...That being said, I am a retired USCG PA and have treated seasickness for 30 years.  Any of the aforementioned anti-nausea meds will help.  The problem with them is the drowsiness they cause.  In the old days on board ship, the crew still had to stand watch so drowsiness was not an option.  The standard back then was Phenergan or Dramamine for nausea and with it Ephedrine (off the market now), the stimulant to ramp up the nervous system (think of the seasick guy, like my brother, that goes completely well when the rods start singing, that's the idea) 

Anyway, nowadays we use one of the above or scopalomine, or even hyoscyamine (also known as Levsin) and then add Dexedrine 5mg or even Adderall 5-10mg to it for an unbeatable combination.  Levsin is very mild but very effective and when combined with Dexedrine, it is pretty much magic.  Obviously, you need to talk to your Doctor, PA, or NP for a prescription.

One story: On a charter out of Morehead City, NC 10 years ago, one of the guys was a type 1 diabetic and in 8-10ft seas he started vomiting nonstop; a very dangerous situation for someone on insulin.  We gave him a shot of Phenergan and then 20 minutes later a Dexedrine and in 20 minutes he was eating (I swear to you) Sardines and crackers.  Saved the day, possibly a helicopter ride or worse.  I hope this helps anyone not doing well on the standard OTC medications.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: boon on April 21, 2017, 03:26:29 AM
My 2c for an old thread;

Down in these parts pretty much everyone swears by "Paihia Bombs", a concoction sold by the Paihia Pharmacy.
Some digging around the internets suggests that the active ingredients are Hyoscine and Phomethazine (Phenergan)
You used to be able to buy them online direct but I couldn't find them on the site any more :(


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: Brian Perez on August 08, 2017, 06:27:34 AM
I was seasick once on a ship. I ate a banana and drink some water. It helped!


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: sharkman on August 08, 2017, 10:29:19 AM
Charter Captain told me one time to take sea sickness medicine night before, hours before trip, eat light, drink plenty fluids, and watch land till it disappears.


Title: Re: HELP????motion sickness or sea sickness....HELP????
Post by: wailua boy on August 09, 2017, 05:15:05 AM
I've noticed if you can jump behind the wheel, it really seems to alleviate seasickness; may not always be feasible buts keeps you alert and looking ahead.