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Title: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on May 06, 2014, 08:38:55 PM
The following Penn reels use main gear part no. 5-60 and 5-149:

Penn 60
Penn 65
Penn 85
Penn 99
Penn 100
Penn 110
Penn 140
Penn 145
Penn 146
Penn 149
Penn 150
Penn 200
Penn 250
Penn 259
Penn 285

I have created a 5 stack for Penn reels that uses Penn's 5-60 main gears.  The list of reels are noted above.  Most of these reels have a drag capacity of 6-9 pounds.  This should increase your drag to a comfortable 10-15 pounds of drag, theoretically.  I haven't had a chance to line my Penn 259 to test out the drag system, but is should work very similarly to my other Ultimate Upgrade Drag Kits.

The kits come with 5 in gear Carbontex drag washers, 1 Carbontex undergear drag washer, 3 metal keyed washers, 2 metal eared washers, and a new belleville.  Due to the different reel sideplate spacings, if the belleville does not fit within the sideplate, I recommend installng it between the spacer and the star for a more gradual increase in drag pressure.

Cost of the set is $27 shipped within the USA.  Will ship internationally based on international postage fees.

Pictures will be posted shortly.

Please post your questions.

Thank you for your interest.

Bryan


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Ron Jones on May 06, 2014, 10:46:38 PM
Really cool Bryan, I think your drag estimates are probably a bit low. These drags will give the same drag at the gear as a 113 with a 5 stack, and mine produces way more than 10 pounds. In fact, I don't see why the 99,110 and 250 wouldn't give the same drag as a 500 with your 5+1 stack. Probably more because of the lower gear ratio. A 250 with this drag and a long crank arm would be quite the crane for bottom fishing.

Ron


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Keta on May 07, 2014, 07:05:25 AM
A 250 with this drag and a long crank arm would be quite the crane for bottom fishing.

Ron

I will let you know, I have a 250N (501 frame) I'm going to use for mid depth lingcod and am considering one on a Tiburon 99 frame.  These washers will also fit a 113, a 7+1 113N "Grouper Special" sounds interesting for mid depth halibut.


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Bryan Young on May 07, 2014, 08:22:10 AM
A 250 with this drag and a long crank arm would be quite the crane for bottom fishing.

Ron

I will let you know, I have a 250N (501 frame) I'm going to use for mid depth lingcod and am considering one on a Tiburon 99 frame.  These washers will also fit a 113, a 7+1 113N "Grouper Special" sounds interesting for mid depth halibut.
I think I can even make a 9-stack for that gear  ;D


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Keta on May 07, 2014, 09:11:24 AM
Set one set aside for me.


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Ron Jones on May 07, 2014, 02:59:33 PM
A nine stack, I might have to try that out as well. I have a Penn 3/0, it uses the 66 gear and the 85 spool. A nine stack on a reel that size would be interesing for shallow big fish jigging like the garbage pile at Neah Bay or many other areas in the straights.
Ron


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Bryan Young on May 07, 2014, 10:36:54 PM
Max is 8 which would not work.  7 stack in the 113 is the max.


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Ron Jones on May 08, 2014, 12:26:31 AM
Still, a seven stack is an awful lot of drag. Definatly a SS gear and dog proposition I'd say. If a jigmaster will mess up a gear sleeve end at 12 pounds or so, I couldn't thing that a larger diameter reel at 20+ wouldn't just twist the handle off or destroy the brass dog.
Ron


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on June 14, 2014, 10:28:56 AM
Bryan,
Can you bring three of these sets with you tonite?
I'd like to try them in my Squidders.
Tom


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Tom McKinney on July 17, 2014, 08:47:07 AM
Brian
I need three of these.  Can you PayPal me an invoice ?
Thanks
Tom



Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: CooldadE on July 17, 2014, 01:52:10 PM
Wow... Opens up a whole new world for those little reels.


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Newell Nut on July 17, 2014, 02:56:34 PM
When you increase a stack from 3 to 5 it makes a huge difference.


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Islandgypsy on July 20, 2014, 07:00:44 PM
I would like two (2). Where and when do I send the check ( do not do Pay Pal ) .  Thanks Bryan... Greg.


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: johnachak on September 15, 2014, 06:33:57 AM
If we change to a 5-1 in a Squidder, what replacement carbon washers will it need in the future? Is it the standard with thinner metal washers or are they speciazed thickness C/F washers?


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Newell Nut on September 15, 2014, 06:39:21 AM
The CFs are thin and the SS is thin. Changes in the future require thin CFs. I have used mine over a year and I fish 3 days a week most weeks and they are holding up well.


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Bryan Young on September 15, 2014, 08:15:53 AM
As Newell Nut indicated, I have had thin metal washer cut for this application.  I also use thin Carbontex washers from SmoothDrag.


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: maxpowers on September 15, 2014, 01:24:39 PM
Bryan,

Does the 5-60 main gear kits fit the 5-149 main gear?

Thanks,


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: Alto Mare on September 15, 2014, 01:30:01 PM
Yep!


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: maxpowers on September 15, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
nice


Title: Re: Ultimate Upgrade for Penn Reels that use 5-60 main gears for 5+1 stack
Post by: johnachak on September 16, 2014, 05:26:06 AM
Thanks guys. I appreciate the info. Have a great day.


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on May 18, 2015, 05:47:41 PM
Hi Guys,

I no longer have this drag kit.  It took me over 2 years to sell 50 kits.  I'm contemplating on making more kits but sales was really slow.  Do you think I should make more kits? 

Thanks,
Bryan


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on May 18, 2015, 07:51:07 PM
Hi Guys,

I no longer have this drag kit.  It took me over 2 years to sell 50 kits.  I'm contemplating on making more kits but sales was really slow.  Do you think I should make more kits? 

Thanks,
Bryan

These kits will become hugely popular when Alan C. rolls out his new squidder gears. Thats if he doesnt do the dura drag type drag system he is doing on the jigmaster gears. I vote for at least doing the metals, as I find a lot of use for them.


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Rancanfish on May 18, 2015, 09:43:03 PM
Wow, did I get the last two?

Do I need to start an auction, lol.?


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Marcq on May 18, 2015, 09:53:55 PM
My squidder just when up in value  8) But  was hoping to get another set :(

Marc..


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Alto Mare on May 19, 2015, 03:23:54 AM
A valuable kit, those are good to have.


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: mike1010 on May 19, 2015, 05:56:11 AM
Bryan, I was about to ask you for a set, so would definitely take one.

Mike


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on May 19, 2015, 07:42:56 PM
Thanks guys.

I'll put in an order...maybe it was my lack of marketing...


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: CoastalFishfinder on May 20, 2015, 04:18:42 AM
Bryan,
        As per our conversation the other day,I'll take two sets.
                                                                  Thanks,
                                                                  Frank


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Rancanfish on May 20, 2015, 05:02:12 AM
If it helps I'll put in a pre-order of two more sets.

I have (9) different Jigmasters though so who knows what the future holds.  :D


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: 1Forecon on June 02, 2015, 07:36:00 PM
Bryan, I PM'd you(it's a whopper :o) as I'm going to try and breath a little life back into some old reels I have sitting idle. Those drags look like what I wish I had 20 years ago.


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on June 23, 2015, 10:39:25 PM
I should be restocked in 2 weeks.  Thank you for your patience.


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Rancanfish on June 24, 2015, 06:05:22 AM
Just noticed in my earlier post I was rambling on about the jigmaster kits when this is about squidder/surfmaster.

Sorry. But now that I'm on the right page,  I'll commit to (3) kits of the 5 stack for Squids.

Thanks Bryan.


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Keta on June 24, 2015, 10:26:16 AM
Just noticed in my earlier post I was rambling on about the jigmaster kits when this is about squidder/surfmaster.

Sorry. But now that I'm on the right page,  I'll commit to (3) kits of the 5 stack for Squids.

Thanks Bryan.

Let's hear your loud "D'oh!    :D


Title: Re: SOLD OUT - Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on June 24, 2015, 11:48:10 AM
If it helps I'll put in a pre-order of two more sets.

I have (9) different Jigmasters though so who knows what the future holds.  :D
Hi Randy,

Do you need Jigmaster Kits?  I have those available.  PM me.

Thank you,
Bryan


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on July 07, 2015, 09:40:43 PM
Kits are back in stock.  thank you for your patience.

I'll be sending paypal invoices out shortly.  If I missed anyone, please PM me with your order.

Thank you.
Bryan


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: PacRat on July 09, 2015, 05:39:45 PM
Hey Bryan
I just PMed you for some drag sets. It was my first time messaging on this site so I may have sent it twice. Anyways it's for 4 sets. Squidder x2 and one each for Jigmaster and 113H.
Thanks
-Mike


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on July 15, 2015, 08:15:32 PM
Hey Bryan
I just PMed you for some drag sets. It was my first time messaging on this site so I may have sent it twice. Anyways it's for 4 sets. Squidder x2 and one each for Jigmaster and 113H.
Thanks
-Mike
Hi Mike,

Did you received the PayPal invoice?  If not, please advise.

Thank you,
Bryan


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: kmstorm64 on August 24, 2015, 08:57:56 AM
I will need two sets Bryan, thanks.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Maxed Out on January 06, 2016, 11:33:21 AM
Hi Bryan, do you still have 5 stack for the 5-60 ??

 I was also looking for jigmaster stacks, but got no reply on pm so are you out of those too ??

  Thanks Ted


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on January 06, 2016, 12:46:49 PM
Hi Bryan, do you still have 5 stack for the 5-60 ??

 I was also looking for jigmaster stacks, but got no reply on pm so are you out of those too ??

  Thanks Ted
Hi Ted,

Yes, I have these drag kits in stock.  Do you want me to add it to your paypal invoice?  if so, how many kits would you like me to add? 

Did you get my paypal invoice for the jigmaster drag kits?

Thank you,
Bryan


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Maxed Out on January 06, 2016, 03:10:01 PM
Hi Bryan, do you still have 5 stack for the 5-60 ??

 I was also looking for jigmaster stacks, but got no reply on pm so are you out of those too ??

  Thanks Ted
Hi Ted,

Yes, I have these drag kits in stock.  Do you want me to add it to your paypal invoice?  if so, how many kits would you like me to add?  

Did you get my paypal invoice for the jigmaster drag kits?

Thank you,
Bryan


 No Bryan, I did not. My Paypal email address has not been updated since we switched carriers. If you give me a total for the jigmaster kits and (4) of the 60 5 stack kits and your email address, I will send payment.

  Thanks, Ted


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: ReelCurious on February 17, 2016, 01:52:34 PM
I'd like to purchase 2 of your kits for a Squidder.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: sharkman on March 23, 2016, 01:33:51 PM
Do you still have any of the kits


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on March 23, 2016, 01:58:38 PM
Do you still have any of the kits
These kits are still available.  How many do you need?


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Alto Mare on March 23, 2016, 02:09:19 PM
Bryan, I need two kits myself...if you have them.

Thanks!

Sal


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: sharkman on March 23, 2016, 04:37:16 PM
One set.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: bparages808 on March 24, 2016, 12:55:54 PM
Hi Bryan looking the 5+1 drag kit for the 259 penn. Send u a money order? Thx


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: GoldenRage on May 05, 2016, 07:48:13 AM
Hi Bryan,

Received the 5+1 stack drag kits a few days ago. They look great.
Keep up with the great upgrades and mods.

Best,
Victor


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on May 05, 2016, 11:32:54 AM
Thank you Victor.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: mo65 on July 26, 2016, 04:30:56 PM
Hey Bryan,
 Do you still have these kits available? If so, I'll take one. 8)


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on July 26, 2016, 09:43:05 PM
Hey Bryan,
 Do you still have these kits available? If so, I'll take one. 8)
I have a few kits. I just sent you a PayPal invoice. Thank you.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on March 13, 2017, 11:02:15 AM
Kits have been re-stocked.  Thanks to my kids of course. 


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: tgoff on March 16, 2017, 06:46:30 PM
These kits are awesome. Super smooth and a lot more progressive drag. Great upgrade.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: mo65 on June 08, 2017, 12:23:31 PM
   Hi Bryan...I need another one of these kits. I think you have the billing info.  8)


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Dustin0330 on June 20, 2017, 03:46:18 AM
Hey Bryan, I'll take 1 kit if they're still available.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Darin Crofton on September 08, 2018, 09:21:17 AM
Bryan, Do you have any of these kits for a 149 available? Thanks, Darin


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: CooldadE on February 12, 2019, 01:38:17 PM
Bryan, Do you have any of these kits for a 149 available? Thanks, Darin

What he said...

Cool


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on February 12, 2019, 02:47:36 PM
Bryan, Do you have any of these kits for a 149 available? Thanks, Darin

What he said...

Cool

Drag kits may be purchased at Mystic Parts.  Please click on the link https://www.mysticparts.com/CustomParts/UltimateUpgrades/UU-PENN100.aspx

Thank you.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Eddie K on July 19, 2019, 02:57:31 PM
Hello Bryan.  I purchased one of the 5+1 drag kits from Mystic parts for a 285.  I greased the washers with Cals reel and drag grease.  I installed them on the reel.  At 9 pounds of drag, the drag is not smooth.  Did I do something wrong or did I just happen to get a kit that is not up to par? 

I even tried greater drag pressures trying to get the drag to break in.  Unfortunately there was no difference. 


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on July 20, 2019, 08:54:50 AM
Hi Eddie,

If you didnít squeeze out all of the drag grease, try this.

Set the drag at 1# then pull the line against the drag and reel about 10 times, 1 yard or so each pull.
Then 3# and repeat what you did at 1#
Then 5# then repeat what you did at 1#

Then try your drags at higher pressure.

Another place to look is the hub of the gear and the gear sleeve. If that is worn and grooved, itíll affect how your drags will work.

Let me know the outcome.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Eddie K on July 20, 2019, 10:09:23 AM
Ok.  I'll try it.  I can't go to tight on the drag because I'm using a brass gear sleeve.  I don't go heavy on the grease as a light film should be sufficient.  I'll play with it and take it apart if I can't get it to smooth out and inspect it.  Thank you.  I'll let you know how it works out.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: mo65 on July 20, 2019, 12:02:31 PM
 I'll play with it and take it apart if I can't get it to smooth out and inspect it. 

   Did you use the new under gear washer with the kit? If not, you may want to inspect the under gear washer...it may be shot. I've seen many of the old red discs split and crack on old 285s. 8)


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on July 20, 2019, 04:28:44 PM
Ok.  I'll try it.  I can't go to tight on the drag because I'm using a brass gear sleeve.  I don't go heavy on the grease as a light film should be sufficient.  I'll play with it and take it apart if I can't get it to smooth out and inspect it.  Thank you.  I'll let you know how it works out.
If the drag washers are not fully coated with grease or completely dry the drag could be jumpy.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Eddie K on July 21, 2019, 12:12:39 AM
Hello Bryan.  I followed your instructions.  I set the drag at 1 lb., 3 lbs., 5 lbs., 7 lbs, 9 lbs., and 11 lbs.  and at each setting stripped off about 20 ft. of line.  Set it at 9 lbs and it still was kind of jerky.  I opened the reel up and took the stack out and wiped the grease off.  I inspected the gear sleeve and noticed that some polishing was starting to appear at the hub, no groove was present.  I regreased the drag stack with Cal's drag and reel grease.  Placed the drag stack in the gear, put the spacer sleeve on and then the star.  I tightened the star down and wiped the grease off.  Took the star and spacer sleeve off and put the bridge assembly back in place and buttoned it all up.  It is better, but still a little jerky.  I'll fish it between 7 and 8 lbs.  At 7 lbs it is smooth at 8 lbs it starts catching.  I'll fish it and be happy with it.  I don't want to fish this reel at any higher drag pressures anyway.  I plan on using this reel kayak fishing. 


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on July 21, 2019, 02:16:55 PM
Let me know how it goes.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Eddie K on July 21, 2019, 07:04:59 PM
I will let you know how it works out.  Thank you for taking the time to address the issue.  I remembered last night that since I overfilled the spool with an extra 60 to 80 yards of line  that the more line there is, the tighter the drag has to be tightened.  So, I guess it is better to fish it at 7 lbs of drag anyway because as the spool loses line, the tighter the drag gets. 

Once again, thank you.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on July 21, 2019, 08:57:20 PM
Glad to help and thank you for your support.

Tightline. Canít wait to hear the fishing report.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Eddie K on August 19, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
Hello Bryan, apparently the drag stack needed to break in.  The drag is now performing smoothly.  Thank you for a wonderful product.  I will purchase more.  Tightlines.


Title: Re: Penn Reels that use 5-60 and 5-149 main gears for 5+1 stack drag kit
Post by: Bryan Young on August 19, 2019, 10:25:52 AM
Hello Bryan, apparently the drag stack needed to break in.  The drag is now performing smoothly.  Thank you for a wonderful product.  I will purchase more.  Tightlines.
Great to hear Eddie.  Thank you for your feedback and following up with the performance of your reel.