Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Three se7ens on May 09, 2014, 02:16:45 AM

Title: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on May 09, 2014, 02:16:45 AM
I adding some new designs for custom handles, and it got a couple of them finished up and cut today.

Top one is a 4 1/8" ctc handle I'll be putting on my 9/0.

The second one is a 3 3/4" ctc amberjack handle for Mike (maxpowers)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on May 09, 2014, 02:21:34 AM
That AJ Handle is Sweet! Good Job Adam! ;)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: maxpowers on May 09, 2014, 05:51:28 AM
That's an awesome looking handle.  almost too pretty to fish.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on June 04, 2014, 02:29:00 AM
I've had some requests for the curved handle on the top of the pic, so here's the details. I'm going to put in an order next Monday, so I'd like to get an idea of how many to order.   Let's start a list here.

The handle is sized for the 114H/115 gear sleeve, and is 4 1/8" from the center of the gear sleeve to the center of the knob. Made from 3/16" thick 316 stainless, and will come in a raw finish as in the first pic. I will need to know what size hole for the knob you need. 3/16" or 5/16" are typical of Penn reels, but the handle I used on mine took a .236" hole.

Price will be $18 each plus shipping.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: floating doc on June 04, 2014, 02:53:14 AM
Counting off!  ONE!!!!
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: anglingarchitect on June 04, 2014, 04:08:48 PM
Put me dow for one.

Mark Hartley
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on June 11, 2014, 10:44:39 AM
I'm picking up 10 of the handles from the cutter on Friday. I'll have them ready to ship early next week.

Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: floating doc on June 17, 2014, 05:11:24 AM
Bought the replacement reel tonight so I can finish my half frame 9/0! :D
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on June 22, 2014, 07:31:12 PM
Well, the handle hole was .030" over on all of the handle arms I picked up last week.  They are being recut next week. In the mean time, I'm going to rework these to fit the 10/0 and up reels.  If you're interested, send me a PM. Price is the same. 
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on June 30, 2014, 10:15:46 PM
Recut handles are in and they look fantastic.  I have 4 left that are not already spoken for. PM me if you're interested, and be sure to include what size handle hole you want.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 01, 2014, 12:06:09 AM
I'll take two of them Adam for the 10/0 with a 5/16" handle hole.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 01, 2014, 02:19:01 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on July 01, 2014, 12:06:09 AM
I'll take two of them Adam for the 10/0 with a 5/16" handle hole.

I'll have those out to you by the end of the week.  Could you take a measurement for the screw that locks the handle bolt in? 

For everyone else, I'll have a batch of these sized to fit 10/0 and up reels available after Daron confirms the fitment.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 01, 2014, 02:41:48 AM
The stock penn handle screw is (23-60) 5-40 UNC (0.125 in dia.)
I quoted Tom (Irish Jigger on this) I sent Lee a PM to confirm.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 01, 2014, 02:48:02 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on July 01, 2014, 02:41:48 AM
The stock penn handle screw is (23-60) 5-40 UNC (0.125 in dia.)
I quoted Tom (Irish Jigger on this) I sent Lee a PM to confirm.

Can you give me a center to center measurement from that screw to the main handle bolt?

I'm tapping these to 4-40 threads, and including a 316 stainless Allen head screw.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 01, 2014, 05:00:16 AM
This is by no means a precise measurement, but it should do.
With my Mic on inches. Stock Handle. .375
Lees 2 hole arm. Same measurement. The 3 position is the same as well.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 01, 2014, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on July 01, 2014, 05:00:16 AM
This is by no means a precise measurement, but it should do.
With my Mic on inches. Stock Handle.

Perfect.  That's what I measured on the 9/0 handle too.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Ron Jones on July 01, 2014, 09:37:46 PM
Daron,
Please don't take this the wrong way, I am trying to help. The way you took those photos it looks like you were using the "outside" legs of the caliper. To measure what you are measuring you should use the "inside" legs which are the two little knoves on top of the scale. If you moved the caliper (which I'm sure you did) for better viewing then call me an idiot, but if not then you will get a more acurate measurement using the caliper correctly.

Just trying to help
Ron
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 01, 2014, 10:07:18 PM
Point taken Ron. I actually did it both ways, and then locked it down for the photos.
I can take some criticism. After the barium scan crack, I think I can take it. ;D
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 01, 2014, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on July 01, 2014, 09:37:46 PM
Daron,
Please don't take this the wrong way, I am trying to help. The way you took those photos it looks like you were using the "outside" legs of the caliper. To measure what you are measuring you should use the "inside" legs which are the two little knoves on top of the scale. If you moved the caliper (which I'm sure you did) for better viewing then call me an idiot, but if not then you will get a more acurate measurement using the caliper correctly.

Just trying to help
Ron

I fail to see how using one set of jaws or the other could matter here. There is no hole for the inside jaws to go into to measure. Using the points of either set of jaws or the flat inside will give you the same reading.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Ron Jones on July 01, 2014, 11:15:50 PM
I told you I was an idiot. I thought you were measuring the width of the notch. Sorry.
Ron
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 09, 2014, 05:11:17 AM
No idiots here Ron! ;)
That handle fits like a glove Adam! I like that set screw too! It fits the handle knob better than my Shark Handles.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4290/35636745271_00d93d5ede_b.jpg)
Please Don't take offense Lee, You will always be my Favorite! :-* There is only one Keta Krank, and I know you are letting your hand heal. Adam made the best out of a bad situation with some miss cut 9/0 arms. We now have Keta Kranks and Adam's Arms! ;D That is a big Chunk of Stainless Steel! :o
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4231/35727685486_1ebee495bd_b.jpg)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Cone on July 09, 2014, 04:26:56 PM
There is a better way to measure center to center distance using a caliper. It's easier to post a link than type the info.
http://littlemachineshop.com/Instructions/UsingCalipers.pdf     
Bob
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 09, 2014, 06:09:49 PM
If the holes were the same size, that would have worked. I will remember that though. Some tips there for sure.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 10, 2014, 01:55:51 AM
Daron, on the shark handles, I did the hole for the set screw on the Waterjet, but on these, I just laid it out by hand and drilled it.   

I have 7 handles available for the 10/0 and up reels available. The price is the same, at $18 plus shipping.

Just a note:  these handles are long!  When I had mine spooled, the line winder couldn't reach the handle. I had to pull the handle off a 6/0 the store had in the shelf just to get line put on.

I'm out of town this week, but I'll be able to ship out parts next week.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 10, 2014, 02:29:13 AM
I didn't measure the length, but they look about the same as Lee's. These are just what the doctor ordered for winching in Big Fish! ;)
Bump my order up to four more total Adam. Now there is 5 left. ;)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: bluefish69 on July 10, 2014, 02:33:41 AM
Adam

What happened to the Stars?

Mike
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 10, 2014, 03:12:55 AM
Quote from: bluefish69 on July 10, 2014, 02:33:41 AM
Adam

What happened to the Stars?

Mike

I have a few that I just need tap. I was planning on updating the thread this weekend when I get home. These are nice, I got hooked up with some mirror finish .135" thick material on the last order.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 10, 2014, 04:09:58 AM
Hi Adam,
I'll take one of these arms for my new 12/0.
What is the measurement for Alan's kolekar handles, 5/16" ?

PMing shipping info.

Please & Thank You,
John
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 10, 2014, 04:14:49 AM
Yes John, its  5/16". These need to be smoothed out a bit and polished, but they are Heavy Duty!
I measured the arm and its 4" long from the center of the handle nut to the handle hole. In the above picture of Lee's 3 hole arm in the background. I mounted it using the middle hole and it measures 4 3/16" from the nut to the handle.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 10, 2014, 04:35:47 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on July 10, 2014, 04:14:49 AM
Yes John, its  5/16". These need to be smoothed out a bit and polished, but they are Heavy Duty!
I measured the arm and its 4" long from the center of the handle nut to the handle hole. In the above picture of Lee's 3 hole arm in the background. I mounted it using the middle hole and it measures 4 3/16" from the nut to the handle.

Mine are 4 1/8" ctc
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 10, 2014, 04:54:12 AM
Well there you go, I stand corrected! ;) I just wanted to point out that these were close to Keta Krank standards. I have reeled in a big fish with his and it was a pleasure! ;D
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 17, 2014, 12:54:11 AM
Currently available:  (4) 116 and up handle arms and (4) 114H/115 handle arms

All 116+ handles have a 5/16" hole for the handle.  The others are available in 5/16", 3/16", and .236", which is common on aftermarket handles.  If you need a special size, let me know.  



Is anyone interested in a smaller version for the smaller reels, such as the 113h?  I was thinking 3 1/4" or maybe 3 1/2" center to center.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Southernsharker on July 22, 2014, 11:55:09 PM
Do you have any more handles for the 10/0 if so ill take 1
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 27, 2014, 01:38:43 AM
Neither the supplied hex head screw nor the original Penn screw will fit.
Debating my options, finding another screw, turning the hex down or taking a round file to the appropriate indentation on the handle screw.

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/ChileRelleno/armscrew_zps0fd40a70.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/ChileRelleno/media/armscrew_zps0fd40a70.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 27, 2014, 01:44:51 PM
John,
I just got four more of these from Adam. I went to check and mine fits fine.
One of the four is like yours. Its drilled a little too close. Bottom one.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 27, 2014, 04:29:50 PM
John and Daron, if you want to send the handles back, I'll exchange them. Otherwise I can send you a new screw that's been cut down if you prefer. Pm me.

Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 27, 2014, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: Three se7ens on July 27, 2014, 04:29:50 PM
John and Daron, if you want to send the handles back, I'll exchange them. Otherwise I can send you a new screw that's been cut down if you prefer. Pm me.


Adam, I'll take the exchange, please & thank you.
PM sent.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 27, 2014, 08:40:57 PM
I'm fine with it Adam. I'll work around it. ;)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Dominick on July 27, 2014, 09:26:16 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on July 27, 2014, 08:40:57 PM
I'm fine with it Adam. I'll work around it. ;)
My hero.  :D Dominick
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on July 27, 2014, 11:25:07 PM
Daron,
   You, like Sal, probably do more things in a day than I do in a week.
I have to admit, I'm falling behind a bit on all these upgrades.
Adam, I like the hex head screws!
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 28, 2014, 01:58:25 PM
Dom,
I just try and plan one project at a time. I tore apart another 12/0 yesterday. It was majorly corroded. It took lots of polishing. Shaped up one of Adam's Handles, then got distracted rolling hot wheels down the driveway with my son. Grilled out some Ribeyes and fell asleep on the couch. I'll finish it when I get time. ;)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Southernsharker on July 28, 2014, 11:52:57 PM
I ordered a 10/0 one from adam to daron when it comes in ill send my 10/0 to you i may have a second 10/0 to send to you also haha
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Dominick on July 29, 2014, 12:02:28 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on July 28, 2014, 01:58:25 PM
Grilled out some Ribeyes and fell asleep on the couch. I'll finish it when I get time. ;)
See life is good.   :)  Dominick
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on July 29, 2014, 02:11:38 AM
Daron, I'm glad you still have time to eat ;)
Keep it up, pal
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 30, 2014, 05:00:59 AM
I tried something different on this spool. If it has heavy corrosion. Simple Green is the trick. Just needs a polishing. Turtle wax Chrome polish. This one was somewhere in the middle. I normally only use the Mothers wheel polish for buffing out handles, but just a soft rag and a little elbow grease did the trick on this one. Bling! ;)
Slapped it back together after work last night. Turned out Good! ;)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: kbamhi on July 30, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Three se7ens on July 17, 2014, 12:54:11 AM
Currently available:  (4) 116 and up handle arms and (4) 114H/115 handle arms

All 116+ handles have a 5/16" hole for the handle.  The others are available in 5/16", 3/16", and .236", which is common on aftermarket handles.  If you need a special size, let me know.  



Is anyone interested in a smaller version for the smaller reels, such as the 113h?  I was thinking 3 1/4" or maybe 3 1/2" center to center.  Thoughts?

I am interested in ( 1 )  handle arm for a 112 and ( 1 ) for a 113
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Southernsharker on July 31, 2014, 12:26:03 AM
Handle are came in today. It looks awesome thanks adam
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: ChileRelleno on August 02, 2014, 12:41:55 AM
Adam,
new arm received & mounted, everything A1, thanks for the exchange.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on September 05, 2014, 02:40:45 AM
A new design for Sal, and the 113h version of my handle with holes ready for testing.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on September 05, 2014, 02:55:53 AM
Adam, those look very nice. I could tell They're going to look sharp when mounted. Great job!
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: ChileRelleno on September 05, 2014, 02:58:59 AM
I like'em.  8)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 05, 2014, 03:54:41 AM
Good Job Adam! ;)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Tom McKinney on September 05, 2014, 05:14:06 AM
Those look awesome.  Which if any if the old designs do you still have in stock?  113h or 114h?
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on September 05, 2014, 12:38:19 PM
Adam, the star drags you made me won't allow a thick handle to be put on at the same time as the thicker star. Can you thin down the handle to accommodate the two at the same time?
Beautiful handles!
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: foakes on September 05, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
Hi Dom --

Would a recessed center area work on the star?

Or a slightly shorter sleeve spacer?

Probably a few other solutions possible -- just hate to see the strength of the beautiful handles changed.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on September 05, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Fred,
   I wasn't looking to have Adam change all of the handles... Just 4 for me ;)
Some of your ideas would probably work... What do you think is the best way to chop the sleeve down because I don't have the tools nor the ability to put that recess in the star?
Thanks
Dom
Ps- I think you could get rid of half the thickness and never have it break. I have to check but I don't think the International arms are as thick. I like over built but to have both would be cool.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on September 05, 2014, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: broadway on September 05, 2014, 12:38:19 PM
Adam, the star drags you made me won't allow a thick handle to be put on at the same time as the thicker star. Can you thin down the handle to accommodate the two at the same time?
Beautiful handles!
Thanks
Dom


The recessed side of your stars should face the spool, not the handle.

I have a few of the 116 and up handles, a few of the 114/115 handles, and one shark handle for the 114/115. Once Sal tests the 113h handles, I'll have some of those cut as well.  
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: foakes on September 05, 2014, 04:38:04 PM
If the recess on the star is towards the handle -- just flip it to face the spool...

If this doesn't work -- use a fine metal grinding belt on a belt sander (must be a solid steel bed under the belt) along with a 90 degree stop fence.  Experiment a bit, probably no more should be removed than necessary, around 1/16" to 3/32" might do it.

Carefully clean up the burred edges with a micro hand file.

Then take a 1/8" drill bit -- spin "0000" steel wool over the bit -- run the wool covered bit through the sleeve until super smooth -- just takes less than a minute to be perfect.

Make sure you did not get carried away with the belt grinder -- the ground down end needs to be perfectly perpendicular to the sleeve body, other wise you will have uneven friction issues.

Or go through your old parts to just change out the spacing sleeve to one slightly shorter.

Good luck,

Fred
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 05, 2014, 04:50:23 PM
Yea Dom. What he said. Piece of cake. ;D
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on September 05, 2014, 04:58:07 PM
Guys, I'm not as good as most but even I know the recess faces the spool... A little credit here  ;)
Yeah, Daron... Now Fred is giving me way too much credit in thinking I have a steel belted belt sander laying around my 1,000 sqft. apartment or the ability to get a perfect edge with one. ;D
I think I'll do what Fred said and check the old parts bin.
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on September 05, 2014, 04:58:31 PM
The thickness of the handle wouldn't have anything to do with the star. The handle sits on the  same spot on the sleeve, Thick or thin  :-\. The only issue you would have with a thicker handle is with the handle screw not sitting in all the way as it should. If the star is too thick, you could make adjustment with your drag  by shaving your spacer sleeve. Now, if the star is not flat... different story. You will need to make sure it doesn't hit the bushing when fully tight, or anything else in the way..
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on September 06, 2014, 02:13:08 AM
Thanks guy... I'll be revisiting this reel for match #2 this week. I'll be letting you know how it goes.
I love the stars and it worked perfectly on a 113h stock handle but maybe I screwed up some where... Wouldn't be the first time  ::)
Keep ya posted,
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on September 06, 2014, 03:02:15 AM
Dom, how many full turns do you get when you tighten  the handle screw? I get almost 7 full turns with a stock handle cranking down tight. If I had less than 3 1/2 turns with that screw on a custom handle, I would be a little concerned.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on September 08, 2014, 02:53:08 AM
Heres what I have in stock at the moment:
4 handles with holes for the 114/115
3 handles with holes for 116+
1 shark handle for 114/115
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on September 08, 2014, 03:19:36 AM
Sal,
  I'm gonna have to get back to you with that answer because I have my work horses at the boat rigged and ready for wednesday.
I'll plan on taking them home and playing with them Wednesday night.
For sure, the way I did it I didn't get 7 cranks.
Stay tuned... Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: jonnou on September 08, 2014, 08:44:01 AM
How  does he survive without a Belt sander  :o :o
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on September 08, 2014, 10:36:36 AM
Quote from: broadway on September 08, 2014, 03:19:36 AM
Sal,
  I'm gonna have to get back to you with that answer because I have my work horses at the boat rigged and ready for wednesday.
I'll plan on taking them home and playing with them Wednesday night.
For sure, the way I did it I didn't get 7 cranks.
Stay tuned... Thanks
Dom
Dom, the reason I asked is that some of the handles that I've seen lately here appear to be too thick. Lee's thickest handle that I have for the larger reels is .180" I get 4 1/2 turns with the handle screw on that one on a 6/0 and I'm ok with that.
The notch on the gear sleeve increases as the reel gets bigger.
Jigmaster sizes handle thickness from Penn is only .120" the mid size 6/0 is from .135 to.160" and the largest size 16/0  is .190"
dimensions are close but not accurate, some have different measurements.


Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on September 14, 2014, 11:22:42 PM
My online store is up, and all of the products I have in stock are shown.  You can pay via paypal, or you can select the manual payment option at checkout if you wish to mail me a check for your order.

http://motivefab.com/products-page/pennreels
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on September 15, 2014, 01:11:05 AM
Just checked it out... looks good, bro!
an't wait to see what's next on your project board ;)
Best of luck with the new shop,
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 15, 2014, 06:55:06 PM
Looks Good Adam! I can't believe you have the Shark Handles on there. That is way Cool! ;D
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: ChileRelleno on September 15, 2014, 10:58:23 PM
Adam, I was unaware  :o   you have the anti-reverse parts for my 9500SS... Next paycheck, sold!

ETA: Couldn't risk one of the limited five sets slipping away from me...  Sold!
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on September 16, 2014, 03:11:01 AM
Quote from: ChileRelleno on September 15, 2014, 10:58:23 PM
Adam, I was unaware  :o   you have the anti-reverse parts for my 9500SS... Next paycheck, sold!

Just got them up for sale yesterday, you arent exactly late...  http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=10216.msg113182#new  theres the original thread if you missed it before, and I even uploaded a video of it in operation.


Back to the handle arms, Ive been working on another design for Sal.  I hope to have these in stock and added to my store sometime next week.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: garking84 on September 16, 2014, 05:13:51 AM
Very nice design.  I hope they are available soon
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 16, 2014, 10:56:54 AM
Those arms look Sweet Adam. ;)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on September 17, 2014, 02:34:27 AM
As an update... i was able to fit the drag stars on all 4 of my work horses. I had to remove the top metal washer (Dawn's thin ones) and replace it with one of Bryan's ultra thin washers.  They're perfect now!
PS- I put the indent part of the star facing the reel ;)
Thanks Adam... can't wait to use them on the stripers soon.
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on September 17, 2014, 03:09:54 AM
I'm glad you got it worked out. Let's see some fish now :)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on September 30, 2014, 12:48:23 AM
New handles are in!  I have them available for purchase in sizes for the 112/jigmaster, 113h, 114/115, and 116+.  $16 each for the 112/jigmaster and 113H sizes, and $18 each for the 114/115 and 116+ sizes. 

Picture shows corresponding handles mounted on my 113H and 115.

Click to purchase (http://motivefab.com/products-page/pennreels)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: garking84 on October 01, 2014, 06:44:01 PM
Sweet handles Just placed my order.. 
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: erikpowell on October 02, 2014, 07:31:37 AM
Schweet !! Nice Adam... I'm back stateside in a couple weeks, I'll send you an order.
Gorgeous design man.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on October 02, 2014, 10:38:02 AM
Those are sweet!
If you take a closer look by the hole, even the handles are saying wow! ;D.
Thanks for making those for us Adam...very nice.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: wallacewt on October 09, 2014, 10:01:47 PM
oh boy! ;)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on October 09, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
Nice job on those Adam!
Can you clarify and put H's where they need to go... or is it just understood that they'll fit all of them.
I see that smile in the handles ;)
Thanks Adam,
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on October 12, 2014, 06:46:27 PM
Quote from: broadway on October 09, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
Nice job on those Adam!
Can you clarify and put H's where they need to go... or is it just understood that they'll fit all of them.
I see that smile in the handles ;)
Thanks Adam,
Dom

Im still trying to get my head around all the different reels and gear sleeves, so maybe Sal or someone can chime in with any corrections r to fill in the gaps.

I posted a drawing with the dimensions for the gear sleeve on the handles, so if there is any question you can refer to that and measure your reels gear sleeve.

The smallest size fits the 98-60 and 98-505 gear sleeves, and possibly the 98-155 gear sleeve.  Reels are 111, 112, 112H, 113, jigmaster, and possibly squidders.

Next size is the 113H size, which uses the 98-320 gear sleeve.

Next size up is 114H/115, which uses the 98-114 gear sleeve.  Should also fit the 114, but Im not completely sure.

Last is the 116+, will fit all of the senators 10/0 and up.


If anyone bends any of these handles in use, Ill replace it at no cost, and tweak the design for more strength.  I cant reliably get .135" thick stock for the smaller handles without adding significantly to the cost, so the 112/jigmaster and 113H handles will usually be .120" thick.  The larger handles are .188" thick, and strength shouldnt be an issue there.

I still have a few 114H/115 handles in stock, and one more 113H handle left from this batch. 

Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on October 18, 2014, 02:25:40 PM
Beautiful handle Adam.

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/001_zps5c1abddc.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/001_zps5c1abddc.jpg.html)

I really like the look, where it meats the shaft it's spot on and it feels just right, the length of the handle is perfect. Thanks for adding the second hole for the set screw, you could really snug it up now.
Great job!
Sal
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Keta on October 18, 2014, 02:51:25 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on October 18, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: Keta on October 18, 2014, 02:51:25 PM
Nice!

Yours aren't too shabby either.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on October 18, 2014, 10:02:43 PM
x2! ;)
I need to get the Shark Handles on my 12 and 14/0. I also bought some of those like you are showing for the bigger reels too.
Adam hit this one out of the park! ;D
I won't mistake which reels have the stainless sleeve anymore. ;)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on October 19, 2014, 08:56:32 AM
Amazing work! My order is in :))
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on February 13, 2015, 02:55:26 AM
112H/jigmaster and 113H sized handles are back in stock.  These sizes are now 0.135" thick, and all handle arms and drag stars will have a smoother, more polished finish.  Ill post up a pic showing the new finish tomorrow, they still need a few more hours in the tumbler. 

Im also working on a counterbalanced handle, and I hope to have a prototype in the next week.

I normally ship within a day or two, but any orders placed between now and sunday will ship out on monday of next week. 
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 13, 2015, 04:50:19 AM
Can't wait too see them Adam. ;D
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: erikpowell on February 14, 2015, 02:51:05 AM
Bula Adam,
Just ordered a couple 115 handles, but couldn't find the jiggly & 113h handles.
After completing my order, I go back to your site, my shopping cart is still there. it won't go away, nor can I see your store items anymore.  ???
Before you ship my order, I'd like to add a 113h handle to save some shipping cost.
Let me know...you want to send me a paypal request for the other? 
Thanks
Erik
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on February 14, 2015, 04:17:45 AM
Erik, send me a pm with the full list of what you wanted to order.  My site sometimes acts funny when you do the manual payment option.  I think I'm going to pull that option and just handle orders via check through pm/email.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on February 14, 2015, 07:21:49 PM
Taking a good picture of the new finish is proving quite difficult. But here it is.  The old handles were sanded with fine grit paper on a DA sander, while the new ones will be polished in a tumbler. The finish is smoother, and will be far easier to buff to a mirror finish.

The handle on the left us the old finish and the one on the right is the new finish.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 18, 2015, 05:25:42 AM
Adam,
I would like a pair for the 112H and the 113H. 4 total. I need to find out from Alan if he sells his smaller grips with the 5/16" countersink. I could always drill them myself, but I want to make sure he has those first. The countersink makes for a much stronger connection. The stress is on the shoulder of the handle shaft instead of the handle screw.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Tightlines667 on February 18, 2015, 08:00:53 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 18, 2015, 05:25:42 AM
Adam,
I would like a pair for the 112H and the 113H. 4 total. I need to find out from Alan if he sells his smaller grips with the 5/16" countersink. I could always drill them myself, but I want to make sure he has those first. The countersink makes for a much stronger connection. The stress is on the shoulder of the handle shaft instead of the handle screw.

Good point Daron.  I didn't think about countersinking these.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on February 18, 2015, 02:14:11 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 18, 2015, 05:25:42 AM
Adam,
I would like a pair for the 112H and the 113H. 4 total. I need to find out from Alan if he sells his smaller grips with the 5/16" countersink. I could always drill them myself, but I want to make sure he has those first. The countersink makes for a much stronger connection. The stress is on the shoulder of the handle shaft instead of the handle screw.

Those size handles get really thin with the 5/16 bore. I don't really trust it, but if you want to try I have a few that size. I don't have that option on my website, so pm me if you want them.

Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 18, 2015, 05:06:16 PM
I guess I better stick with the small hole then. PM Sent.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on February 18, 2015, 10:47:04 PM
I went back and measured and took a pic.  The picture is a 112H/jigmaster size handle with a 5/16" hole for the countersunk knobs.  The wall thickness was 0.090"  The 113H has a bit more material there and has a wall thickness of 0.135"  The 113H would probably be fine, but I think the wall is a bit too thin on the 112H/jigmaster size.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 18, 2015, 11:05:29 PM
Alrighty Then, 5/16" on the 113H. I have another Tank in the works and this will be perfect. ;D
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Krabby Patties on March 07, 2015, 05:00:23 PM
Anyone make a 10" handle with the gear sleeve at 6.5"&3.5" in depending on which side you measure from? That way you have a fast retrieve and a high torque retrieve just by grabbing the opposite end of the handle. Those are just ballpark measurements. Just thinking out loud. Might already be something like that or it may just get in the way.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: LTM on March 07, 2015, 05:39:47 PM
Adam,

If memory serves me; I recall you prototyping some parts on a 3-D printer. This might be worth looking into scaled to the narrow 113H tanks. I envision a ball handle (ala Penn750 SS spinner) on the short end and an Alan Tani 3/0 or something on the long end (balanced to eliminate wobble). This would seem very interesting with 4:1 gears and monster drags).

Just my two-cents,

Leo
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on March 07, 2015, 05:54:58 PM
Quote from: LTM on March 07, 2015, 05:39:47 PM
Adam,

If memory serves me; I recall you prototyping some parts on a 3-D printer. This might be worth looking into scaled to the narrow 113H tanks. I envision a ball handle (ala Penn750 SS spinner) on the short end and an Alan Tani 3/0 or something on the long end (balanced to eliminate wobble). This would seem very interesting with 4:1 gears and monster drags).

Just my two-cents,

Leo


The frame wasn't me, it was Dave. http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13324.0

I'll consider the handle arms if there is enough interest.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: LTM on March 07, 2015, 07:24:55 PM
Thanx Adam for taking the arm into consideration. However, I thought you showed pic's of a 3-D bridge set that you were experimenting with.

Thanx,

Leo
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Black Pearl on March 10, 2015, 12:52:02 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 10, 2015, 12:06:12 AM
Adam, I believe someone likes our design, not exact the same, but very very close. Wouldn't surprise me if they got it from here, but we'll never know :-\
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jigging-World-T-Bar-Power-Handle-for-Shimano-Tiagra-2-Speed-TI130A-Gold/141199341620?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27705%26meid%3Dafb9394b81c542c79a8efbf61ef48a10%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D141199341903&rt=nc

Sal,

That is a member from here. That is Jigging World's product.

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8646.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8646.0)
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 10, 2015, 01:28:18 AM
I'm liking the look of Adam's new arms.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on March 18, 2015, 02:40:23 AM
Here's a new design I've been working on with Sal:  a counterbalanced handle for jigmaster/112h. The dimensions are posted a page or two back, but here's the actual handle with counterweight attached.  The counterweight came out to 1.25 oz, and all components are made from 316 stainless.   

Pricing is $16 for just the handle, and $24 for the handle, counterweight, and mounting screw. 
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on March 24, 2015, 09:02:15 AM
Awesome work! Sal is really going to end up with and ALL ss jigmaster soon!
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on March 24, 2015, 12:24:06 PM
Nice work Adam! I like the resurrection of the older style handles with a twist (SS). What grip would you put on there? I'm thinking it would look cool with an old walnut knob like the days of old.
Thanks for bringing another cool addition to the site,
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Maxed Out on March 24, 2015, 09:02:38 PM
I agree with Dom, very nice work Adam.

Are you considering the next size up (349H/113H) ?? Also think a 115 would be awesome with a old style counterbalance handle.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on March 24, 2015, 09:20:22 PM
Quote from: Max Doubt on March 24, 2015, 09:02:38 PM
I agree with Dom, very nice work Adam.

Are you considering the next size up (349H/113H) ?? Also think a 115 would be awesome with a old style counterbalance handle.

I very well could have larger sizes made.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on March 27, 2015, 12:07:15 AM
Heres the 112H/jigmaster handle after a little quality time with the tumbler.

I also drew up a balanced handle for the 113H and 114H.  The knob to gear sleeve length is a bit shorter than my other handles, but I figured balanced handles arent really suited to fish winch duty, but more about speed.  The PDF's will print actual size. 
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on March 27, 2015, 12:38:54 AM
Those look awesome Adam, I wish you could do the same with the 112H's, maybe making them a little wide might help.
Sal
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on April 11, 2015, 03:56:12 AM
113h balanced handle mounted, still waiting on the knob though.

Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on April 11, 2015, 04:01:55 AM
Adam, if you can do the 112h with the handle arms that you have on that 113h I'll take two. I'll see if I have any 113h's in need of a handle. What knobs would you put on these?
Looking good bro,
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 11, 2015, 04:11:48 AM
Those look nice Adam! I'm thinking 3/0 Kokelar Countersink Grip.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on April 11, 2015, 04:23:06 AM
Quote from: broadway on April 11, 2015, 04:01:55 AM
Adam, if you can do the 112h with the handle arms that you have on that 113h I'll take two. I'll see if I have any 113h's in need of a handle. What knobs would you put on these?
Looking good bro,
Dom

Ill see what I can do.  Im pretty slammed with work now, so its going to be a couple of weeks before I can even get some prototypes done. 

Mine is getting a round aluminum like this:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/221360463358?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on April 11, 2015, 07:19:11 AM
Adam, we have had lots of parts made here from many and all have been great so far, but to me, that latest counterbalanced handle on the 4/0 is the best I've seen to date... Excellent work!
If you have some extra, please put one in the box. I'll always take a 3/16 hole on all, I'll enlarge it if I need to.
If you remember, that is exactly what I requested for the smaller ones, but you said you didn't have the room. I'm hoping you could make the same for those as well without changing the length, I'm sure you'll figure it out.

About that knob that you're showing, it does look very nice, but i don't like them. I ordered a couple two years ago and gave them away, I thought the post was too weak, but it could just be me.

These are actually stronger, but don't look as nice.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-POWER-KNOB-FOR-PENN-DAIWA-SHIMANO-ACCURATE-AVET-REEL-HANDLE-SILVER-/111474896213?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f46bed55
They will need a drop of blue loctite, I had the top part of the knob come loose while fishing.

These feel the best to me
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SILVER-T-BAR-POWER-KNOB-FOR-PENN-DAIWA-SHIMANO-ACCURATE-AVET-NEWELL-REEL-HANDLE-/301588555824?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4638142830
the seller above also has them, but I couldn't find them with a 9 degree angle, 18 degree to me is too much.

I also want to mention that Black Pearl's sent me a knob a while back, they are great. I told him that I like them and he said he was going to try to offer those, but I'm not sure he will.

With that said, no one has made a handle with the shaft as strong as the one that our boss Alan offers here, those can't be beat.

Sal


Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Maxed Out on April 11, 2015, 07:26:38 AM
Wow Adam, you nailed it with that 113H version. I'll take a couple if and when they become available, and a couple of the 114H as well...nice work once again !!
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on April 11, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
Adam,
    I'll take 2 of each in this newer version with the counter balance... 112h and 113h when you get things sorted. Can anyone tell me the benefits of the 3/16" hole or the 5/16" hole? I'd like more info to weigh my options.  If anyone has knob ideas kick 'em out to put the cherry on top of this very cool upgrade. 
I love the kolekkar grips but was thinking something old school might look extra cool with this handle, but functionality has to be there, also.
Thanks for making these, you hit the nail on the head with this one.
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on April 11, 2015, 04:27:14 PM
Quote from: broadway on April 11, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
Adam,
    I'll take 2 of each in this newer version with the counter balance... 112h and 113h when you get things sorted. Can anyone tell me the benefits of the 3/16" hole or the 5/16" hole? I'd like more info to weigh my options.  If anyone has knob ideas kick 'em out to put the cherry on top of this very cool upgrade. 
I love the kolekkar grips but was thinking something old school might look extra cool with this handle, but functionality has to be there, also.
Thanks for making these, you hit the nail on the head with this one.
Dom

Dom, the 3/16" will work with most handles knobs you see on line, the 5/16" will work with Alan's handle knob.
These wouldn't do too good with a 5/16" hole
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SILVER-T-BAR-POWER-KNOB-FOR-PENN-DAIWA-SHIMANO-ACCURATE-AVET-NEWELL-REEL-HANDLE-/301588555824?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4638142830
Sal
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on April 11, 2015, 05:32:01 PM
I appreciate that, sal. I'm thinking Darons on the right track wth the 3/0 kolekkar grips.
The others look cooler but I love the shape of the kolekkars👍
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Alto Mare on April 11, 2015, 06:12:43 PM
Dom, as I mentioned earlier, I haven't seen a handle knob as strong as Alan's yet, I just wish they would get a little creative while machining those. Something as simple as this one already makes a difference, well to me anyway.
http://i.imgur.com/SoHOMm8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ICwhHrM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NtT5S8z.jpg
I had to get really close, the black is hard to show. These actually look better than what you see.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Reel 224 on April 11, 2015, 08:43:37 PM
Quote from: Three se7ens on March 18, 2015, 02:40:23 AM
Here's a new design I've been working on with Sal:  a counterbalanced handle for jigmaster/112h. The dimensions are posted a page or two back, but here's the actual handle with counterweight attached.  The counterweight came out to 1.25 oz, and all components are made from 316 stainless.   

Pricing is $16 for just the handle, and $24 for the handle, counterweight, and mounting screw. 

An arm and handle like this that will be compatible to the Surfmaster 200 I would be interested in as well as a new star. 
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Maxed Out on April 12, 2015, 12:13:18 AM
I'd love to have a couple of the 112H versions as well Adam.

So put me down for 2-113H, and 2-112H and stars for each..............and 2-114H if and when it moves from drawing board to reality.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: broadway on April 12, 2015, 04:31:46 PM
They are the most comfortable but not the most stylish. Did you use a step drill bit on those holes after drilling them out or a countersink?
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on June 23, 2015, 04:24:34 AM
Got a couple of samples of the new 112H and 114H balanced handles in.  Dom and Ted, PM me with how many you want, and Ill make sure youre covered.  I have them for the 113H as well. 
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 23, 2015, 04:53:20 AM
Great looking Handles Adam. ;D
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Gman_WC on July 16, 2015, 06:56:49 AM
So the Senator and shark handles are not available in 113h reel?
At this point I'm looking at picking up a few of the Sal's handles
and match them with Alan's 5/0 delron grips for 4/0 narrows.
From what I've reading the 5/16 countersunk is my match?

Thanks
-g
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 17, 2015, 03:39:43 AM
Quote from: Gman_WC on July 16, 2015, 06:56:49 AM
So the Senator and shark handles are not available in 113h reel?
At this point I'm looking at picking up a few of the Sal's handles
and match them with Alan's 5/0 delron grips for 4/0 narrows.
From what I've reading the 5/16 countersunk is my match?

Thanks
-g

Those 2 styles are only available in 114H and up sizes at the moment.  I have considered offering the senator handle with the round holes in 113H and 112H sizes, but I havent seen much interest so far.  The vast majority of people either want sals handles or the balanced handles for the 113H and below sizes. 

Alans grips can be ordered in either 5/16" or 3/16".  Either is fine for a 4/0, but if you plan on running high drag numbers, Id go with the 5/16".  I can accomodate either, or 6mm for any of my handles.
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Gman_WC on July 17, 2015, 06:08:00 AM
Quote from: Three se7ens on July 17, 2015, 03:39:43 AM
Quote from: Gman_WC on July 16, 2015, 06:56:49 AM
So the Senator and shark handles are not available in 113h reel?
At this point I'm looking at picking up a few of the Sal's handles
and match them with Alan's 5/0 delron grips for 4/0 narrows.
From what I've reading the 5/16 countersunk is my match?

Thanks
-g

Those 2 styles are only available in 114H and up sizes at the moment.  I have considered offering the senator handle with the round holes in 113H and 112H sizes, but I havent seen much interest so far.  The vast majority of people either want sals handles or the balanced handles for the 113H and below sizes. 

Alans grips can be ordered in either 5/16" or 3/16".  Either is fine for a 4/0, but if you plan on running high drag numbers, Id go with the 5/16".  I can accomodate either, or 6mm for any of my handles.

Sounds good my friend.
Can you PM me your address so I can send a check out.
I'm looking at 2ea of the Sal's for 113H with shipping cost.
If your ever going to do a run on the 4/0 sized hole handles, I'd be down for two to start for my HLW's.

Thanks
-gary

Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: JnM Fishing on May 02, 2018, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Three se7ens on May 09, 2014, 02:16:45 AM
I adding some new designs for custom handles, and it got a couple of them finished up and cut today.

Top one is a 4 1/8" ctc handle I'll be putting on my 9/0.

The second one is a 3 3/4" ctc amberjack handle for Mike (maxpowers)



Do you have Amberjack handles available for the 6/0?
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Pacific Viking on June 30, 2018, 10:49:23 PM
what handle arms do you currently have avable for the 112H/Jigmaster?
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Gfish on July 01, 2018, 01:52:44 AM
Yeah?
Title: Re: New handle arms
Post by: Three se7ens on July 01, 2018, 02:16:48 AM
Im not doing any more of the fish or shark styles.  Just sticking to my 4 basic styles for now.  Ill be working on adding more fitments in the future, but for now Im focusing on the primary demand. 

You can find all the info you want here (http://alantani.com/index.php?board=77.0) PM me to place an order.