Have there been sardines available yet this year or are we going to have to deal with tiny baits?
Do they "make bait" on the short trips?
Quote from: Keta on May 12, 2014, 09:45:09 PM
Have there been sardines available yet this year or are we going to have to deal with tiny baits?
Do they "make bait" on the short trips?
I heard that this year there are plumes of anchovies in the area.
The long range boats have been allocated roughly 1/2 sardine 1/2 mackerel. NOt sure about medium range and short range boats.
Plan for anything, bait has been strange this year. My last two trips out, in OC not SD, we had live squid and no fin bait.
EDIT: If they get chovie in the mix it may not live in the warmer waters south, so bait may need to be made. Bring 2 Sabiki's and you should be good.
4 hook Sabikis like the ones I've used on 10 and 15 day trips?
we've always had 6-8 inch sardines. i'd bring 1/0 and 3/0 j-hooks and 2/0 and 4/0 circle hooks. for a picky bite, i've gone down as far as a number 1 in size.
I have 2-4/0 J hooks and 1/0-5/0 C hooks packed .
Quote from: alantani on May 13, 2014, 12:40:11 AM
we've always had 6-8 inch sardines. i'd bring 1/0 and 3/0 j-hooks and 2/0 and 4/0 circle hooks. for a picky bite, i've gone down as far as a number 1 in size.
is this good enough on hooks?
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_2281_zps680b31eb.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_2281_zps680b31eb.jpg.html)
here's to wishing that you run out of hooks!!!! ;D
Quote from: alantani on May 13, 2014, 12:47:53 AM
here's to wishing that you run out of hooks!!!! ;D
I'll take that I'm OK then ;D ;D ;D You have to remember I was booked on a different trip and was going it alone...Overkill!
you're fine! if you run out of hooks, you will have had the trip of a lifetime!
Quote from: alantani on May 13, 2014, 12:52:18 AM
you're fine! if you run out of hooks, you will have had the trip of a lifetime!
Well then Alan let's have a fishing trip of a lifetime!!! And thank you an everyone on this site for helping me and welcoming me ;D ;D ;D
Big Tim!
Quote from: Keta on May 12, 2014, 11:15:39 PM
4 hook Sabikis like the ones I've used on 10 and 15 day trips?
OK there are 1000 Sabiki rigs online..what do I need?
The ones I have are 1/0 Ahi SB-502
(http://www.boaterbarn.com/images_products/mini_squid_sz_1_0ml_78184big.jpg)
That their is a high tech sabiki. I grew up using yellow and orange thread snelled to a hook! I guess I'll have to do some thinking on this one.
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on May 13, 2014, 01:52:03 AM
That their is a high tech sabiki. I grew up using yellow and orange thread snelled to a hook! I guess I'll have to do some thinking on this one.
Ron
Thanks Ron, I was looking for those and started wondering what the heck am I doing...I will pick up a couple from my buddy's store.
Quote from: Keta on May 13, 2014, 01:41:18 AM
The ones I have are 1/0 Ahi SB-502
(http://www.boaterbarn.com/images_products/mini_squid_sz_1_0ml_78184big.jpg)
I'm going to need to get some of those. The ones with a 30# main and 20# traces still get the hooks ripped off at Cedros. Those look beefier.
I've got hooks from #4 for pinheads up to 8/0 for Macs.
Quote from: Keta on May 12, 2014, 11:15:39 PM
4 hook Sabikis like the ones I've used on 10 and 15 day trips?
Yes
Quote from: noyb72 on May 13, 2014, 01:52:03 AM
That their is a high tech sabiki. I grew up using yellow and orange thread snelled to a hook! I guess I'll have to do some thinking on this one.
Ron
The old Lucky Joe's
When you get the 2AM call of "mackerel bighting" they will eat almost anything, though the 1/0 hooks may be a bit big.
I've done San Diego mackerel a lot. Like literally a ton of fish, and I've never used anything bigger than a 2 and that was only because I was out of 4s. 4 mackerel at once that need 1/0 hooks? You better have a TANK pulling that sabiki up.
Ron
I make bait with my 40lb rig.
Ahi SB-501's come with a #2 hook but I've never had problems with the SB-502's.
If you got them bring a squid jig. If the Humbolts are around its nice to make a few for bait as well.
Quote from: SoCalAngler on May 13, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
If you got them bring a squid jig. If the Humbolts are around its nice to make a few for bait as well.
I have a few of them packed, squishes are fun to catch.
That will be cool. Squid fishing is a blast. How does that work with our fish count?
Ron
Quiet as its kept, Lee is "super tech". Pay close attention to his gear on the trip, he NEVER ceases to amaze me.
Leo
Quote from: noyb72 on May 13, 2014, 06:09:23 PM
That will be cool. Squid fishing is a blast. How does that work with our fish count?
Ron
we should be ok! ;D
Use this link to check bait reports.
http://www.baitbarge.com/bait-report.html
The long rangers may have Sardines and Macks but bait has been an issue, having the barge deep in the bay has not helped. Hopefully by the time of your trip it will be back to it's usual position, but that is up to the Navy.
Quote from: Big Tim on May 13, 2014, 12:46:32 AM
Quote from: alantani on May 13, 2014, 12:40:11 AM
we've always had 6-8 inch sardines. i'd bring 1/0 and 3/0 j-hooks and 2/0 and 4/0 circle hooks. for a picky bite, i've gone down as far as a number 1 in size.
is this good enough on hooks?
(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx76/fresnotim/100_2281_zps680b31eb.jpg) (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/fresnotim/media/100_2281_zps680b31eb.jpg.html)
You need some cheapos in there too. Standard 2/0 live bait hooks that are like 25 cents each. Mustad 9174.
If you get into catch and release mode they will just break you off at the boatside. No need to say buh-bye $2 hook.
The boat has some and they are sold at regular prices. Just hit them up on a travel day and don't wait till your in a hot bite but are breaking off all Yellowtail etc.
i was at the shop yesterday and just bought two boxes of 2/0 eagle claw laser sharps for 15 cents each. if we get into dorodo, we will go through alot of hooks.
Quote from: alantani on June 01, 2014, 06:47:46 PM
i was at the shop yesterday and just bought two boxes of 2/0 eagle claw laser sharps for 15 cents each. if we get into dorodo, we will go through alot of hooks.
great minds think alike!
;D
Dorados...! Sometimes you don't even need bait.
Once on the Polaris Supreme we got into a HUGE wide-open bite of dorados... big ones, up to 40-50 lbs. They were so thick it was insane... the entire ocean was flashing green and gold. Now, dorados are one of the stupidest fish in the sea, and they proved it by biting anything we put on our hooks: old candy wrappers, used chewing gum, cigarette butts, even frayed threads from my cut-off shorts. Eventually Captain Tommy had to cut us off before we sank the boat with dodos... but we managed to pass the school off to the Red Rooster III, and they went just as nuts as we motored away. :D
~A~
Sounds exciting Aiala, but you need to be careful with cutting threads off your shorts ::) ;D
I've got plenty of cheapos but I prefer the Mustad 94150's over the 9174's.
so far the bait situation is kinda dire for the shirt range trip. mostly anchovies with minimal sardines and mackerel. bait making seems mandatory on the shorter trips. no one on the longer trips have chimed in about the bait situations. most likely bait making will be mandatory.
So, we definitely made bait. The blue fin weren't interested, but we had the candy to feed them. I'll never go saltwater without a sabiky for each day again. Didn't seem like anyone minded, the bait was thick and it is always fun pulling in e few pounds of mackerel at once.
Ronald
looks like they had sardines today!