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Title: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: alantani on June 22, 2014, 08:46:07 PM
trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014

the short version!

first annual alantani.com charter
spirit of adventure - june 16-21, 2014
five star fish processing
16 loaner rods from phenix
12 loaner reels from okuma (forgotten at home!)
demo reels from jigging world, omoto and okuma
50 lazer minnows from p-line
fluorocarbon and hollow thunder from alan chui/prochallenger
spectra from jerry brown
200 cedros yellowtail, a half dozen yellowfin, two white sea bass, one grouper
anchovies at the receivers, had to make macks
26 really happy guys!

ok, so most of you know how this started.  mel makes a post on the website and says, "hey, we should all go fishing!"  and i'm thinking, dude, you have no idea how much work is involved, but it really would be alot of fun!  then i go on my long range trip last year on the spirit of adventure and i'm thinking of how much mel and all of you guys are like family.  there is no way that i am going to bring you guys on a boat that i am unsure of.  if i do this, it means it has to be this boat, the spirit of adventure.   i talk to mike, the captain, at the end of the trip and i ask, "so what is actually involved in putting a trip together?"  smart man, he says i've gotta talk to his wife.  i call annemarie and she starts running through the numbers.  you almost never see open dates on the spirit because they are always booked with charters, but they have one slot open in august.  the dates won't work, so she says, "well, you could be trip number one.  we will start a week before our normal schedule and it's no problem if you have to cancel because we can just go back to our regular schedule."  ok.....

so now we are trip number "zero."  we do not become trip number "one" unless i have 24 checks in hand before april 1st.  sonofagun, by april 1st i actually had 26 checks and another 10 guys over the next few weeks that also want to go!  now, i've been thinking about how to put this together.  first, to me the crew of the spirit of adventure is also like family.  i will not allow these guys to get stiffed on their tip monies, so the fee for the boat, the crew tips, the permits and licenses are all going to be included in these checks.  annemarie said that these guys would be money ahead if i collected 15% from everyone ahead of time, so that's what i do.  and now the real work starts.

half of these guys signed up have never been on a long range trip before.  to keep it fair, it will be set up with no jackpot and no tags.  if someone catches a nice one and wants to throw a tag on it, that's fine, but otherwise all the fish are going into the pot without numbers and they will be divided up at the end of the trip. i set it up to have five star pick up our fish at the boat and take them straight to their facility for processing.  they will have to figure out the details.  the rest of the trip will be the same as all my other trips.  so now we have a boat, we have a two captains, we have a full crew, we have a processor, we have gear, and we have a full charter.  all we need now is bait and schools of fish willing to die!

sunday, june 15th, 2014 - it's going to be a long drive from saratoga to san diego.  all loaded up.  hmmm, it feels like something is missing......

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ed is 2 hours late, so lee and jack take off ahead of us and are involved in a rear-ender in los angeles. 

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if you're not driving 80 mph, you are getting passed.

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we finally get to san diego and we are too late to hit the shops, so we just checked in at the vagabond.  hmmm, it still feels like i've forgotten something......

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we had dinner at miguel's cocina and 15 guys were able to make it.  a certain somebody (named david) bought us a round of tequila shots that sort of set the pace for the week!

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back at the vagabond, we had a few more drinks with david and wes, then hit the rack.  funny as hell, i woke up at 2am to hear ed and mel snoring in stereo!!!!

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monday, june 16th, 2014 - woke up at 5:30 (to ed and mel's snoring!), had an early breakfast at denny's, then loaded up all the gear.  now i know what was missing.  there are 16 phenix and no reels to go with them!!!!!!!  yup, the reel bag was left in the garage.  this actually worked out ok.  i was able to pass around the rods and let guys try them with their own reels. 

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_22_12_111531656.jpeg)

i told the guys not to bring too much gear.  shows you how much pull i have!

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meet mike, shao and loo.  bernie is in the back.

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now this is interesting.  anchovies?????  i've been going on this boat since 1997 and this is the first time i've seen anchovies!

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meet rob vanderhyde!  i thought this stuff was all supposed to be done ahead of time!

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meet ken.  he's one of the fresno guys.  there were four of them and they were all ringers!

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our first full meal is a rack of ribs with cole slaw and corn on the cob.  meet dean.  you've seen him before working the galley.  he was not supposed to be on this trip, but he showed up a week ago to say hi! and mike twisted his arm because there was an opening.  i was really glad to see him.

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meet ernie (doc), another one of the fresno guys!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_25_48_11162872.jpeg)

meet mel and my brother, ed.  i don't think that's coffee in that cup.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_26_18_111632311.jpeg)

meet tim (another fresno guy), my brother ed again, jack and keith in the back.  it was funny as hell, talking to tim.  we went to the same high school!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_27_30_111651445.jpeg)

gary is local, but jim is from minnesota.  jimmer was hot stick on the yellowtail for the week. 

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_27_57_111661611.jpeg)


june 17th, 2014 - our first day of "fishing."  meet our chef, cory.  breakfast is hash browns, eggs and bacon!

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if you want to eat light, there is always an assortment of fresh fruits and cereals.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_30_59_11171895.jpeg)

meet the last guy, number 26, bernie. 

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_30_04_111692076.jpeg)

tim, david (senor tequila) and active duty usn cpo ron jones (chief!).

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_30_32_11170679.jpeg)

the first fishing day is basically trolling prison.  we scratched up a few bonita, a few yellowtail and one very lost yellow fin tuna.

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pastrami sandwiches for lunch.

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dolphins provided some afternoon entertainment.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_33_08_11176998.jpeg)

we even saw a pod of killer whales.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_34_46_111802331.jpeg)

dinner was chicken, green beans and rice pilaf.

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we made bait at ranger bank, outside of benitos, but basically headed straight down along the coast and arrived at cedros in the evening.

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me and ed on the north end of cedros.

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keith and his son kevin.

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mike, loo and shao.

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my brother, ed!  we made some bait, then had a few drinks, then had a few more drinks, and finally called it a night. 

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wednesday, june 18th, 2014 - eggs benedict and a headache.......

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somebody had a little bit too much to drink last night, but i wasn't feeling much better.

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ken is hooked up!

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jack is hooked up!

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rob is hooked up!

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david is hooked up!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_50_26_112132225.jpeg)

loo is hooked up!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_50_49_11214439.jpeg)

kevin is hooked up!

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and mike!  we would land 60 yellowtail by 10am and nothing afterwards. 

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tostadas for lunch. 

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meet warren!  that would be mr. hamachi to you!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_9_56_06_11227167.jpeg)

the bite fizzled in the afternoon and we spent the rest of the day hunting. 

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meet joel.  we had a light afternoon snack because we were looking at a late dinner. 

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rob and his brother-in-law, terry.

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david and terry.

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deckhands evan and shawn.

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meet wai!

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captain mike keating.  he's smiling, in case you can't tell!

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randy, the last of the four fresno guys, enjoying a little down time.

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ernie!

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cpo jones and me!  i found a big coil of anchor line to stand on for this photo!

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dinner was fresh yellowtail.

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chief with fresh yellowtail and mango salsa. 

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thursday, june 19th, 2014 - missed breakfast altogether.  i woke up and guys were already hanging fish.  we would land 140 yellowtail before lunch.  this is what it looked like in real time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZyFtmBy7cg

lunch was some of the best homemade chili i've ever had.

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the afternoon was a real treat.  the yellowtail bite had been fizzling every afternoon, so the skipper let us goof off a little.  most of us targeted calicos  and caught a bunch of toad calicos with light tackle and the lazer minnows that i had given out.  some guys still fished baits.   jack landed a nice yellowtail on bait. 

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lee caught a nice white sea bass on bait. 

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and i got lucky.  i was using one of the okuma cedros 55 spinners and a matching cedros rod.  i had straight tied a laser minnow (basically a megabait) to the spectra.  i was casting out, letting it drop and sticking small calicos and snot sticks (baracuda).  it was great fun.  then something grabbed the lazer minnow and took off.  that poor little spinner was singing like crazy.  i buttoned down the drag a little after the third or fourth run, and started working it back.  this is what brian gaffed for me!  it was a 39 pound broomtail grouper. 

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i kept casting and hooked into something else that was really big, but the hook pulled and i found that the thin wire treble had bent out.  i replaced it with a 4x treble and kept casting. i saw the skipper poking his head over the rail of the top deck.  he had mentioned that there was a big rock in the water, so i asked him where it was.  he pointed aft, so i chucked the lazer minnow straight back.  it dropped a little, then i kicked it in gear and something grabbed it on the the retrieve.  again, four to five runs and it ran out of steam.  i eased it back to the boat, tightening up the drag a little more, and evan gaffed this beauty for me.  a 34 pound white sea bass!  um, i was kinda stoked.....

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time to go!  we need to head north to be in position to find bluefin tomorrow.  chef has new york steaks on the menu.

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open water north of cedros.  it's gonna be a rough one.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_10_06_53_112531177.jpeg)

jimmer, mark and lee. 

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_10_08_57_11258193.jpeg)

david, warren, wes and finally a shot of joel where you can see his face!

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joel, keith and mel.

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friday, june 20th, 2014 - we are north, 100 miles from san diego, looking for bluefin tuna.  but right now, it's huevos rancheros for breakfast!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_10_11_22_112641195.jpeg)

and remember those calicos from yesterday?  there were a few that had a frying pan in their future!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_10_12_12_112662272.jpeg)

we troll and troll and troll for nothing.  those not in troll prison get a break. 

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some are less fortunate. 

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ah, fresh calico sandwiches.   they were absolutely fabulous. 

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here's where all the tuna are going. 

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troll team #3 finally got lucky!

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saturday, june 21st, 2014 - back at the dock at 5am.  we got out gear off the boat and headed off to breakfast.  the crew from the spirit of adventure off loaded fish in the carts and the five star crew took those fish straight to their processing facility.  there was no jackpot, no sidewalk show and no seagulls trying to steal your fish. 

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it was so nice.  everyone was loaded up and hit the road without delay.  ed and i were the last ones out, and we were on the road at 8:30am. 

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_10_26_56_11302254.jpeg)

ed and i stopped off at the farm in sanger and left the fish with mom and dad.  we had a fresh hamachi lunch and it was the best hamachi that i've ever had.  it was a long drive home, but it was good to be home.  thanks to the captains and crew of the spirit of adventure, thanks to five star fish processing, and thanks to the all the guys on the first alantani.com charter.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_10_23_43_112941749.jpeg)

oh, and i found my bag of fishing reels in the garage!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/11/1_21_06_14_10_27_44_11304932.jpeg)

Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Dominick on June 23, 2014, 12:36:35 AM
I didn't get to go on the trip but I got a first hand report and photos from Lee.  Since Lee had a long trip from San Diego to Oregon, I invited him to sleep over.  Lee arrived with some fresh yellowtail for the table.  I called Wayne (El Pescador) to come over and join us.  We sat around and listened to Lee regale us with a description of the SOA trip.  We all ate and drank a little too much.  It was fun.  Dominick

Here is Lee showing photos to Wayne.
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/lmdl4law/SOA%20AFTERMATH/P1000794_zpsec262a59.jpg) (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lmdl4law/media/SOA%20AFTERMATH/P1000794_zpsec262a59.jpg.html)
Wayne laughing at the stories of the trip.
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Lee and I in my family room.  Note the yellow tail is half gone. 
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Wayne wanted his picture taken and since he brought a bottle of primitivo I could not refuse him.
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Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: alantani on June 23, 2014, 12:42:52 AM
yup, lee and scotch are the reason i forgot my reel bag!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Alto Mare on June 23, 2014, 12:44:18 AM
You're a good man Dominick, nice to see you guys together.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Keta on June 23, 2014, 12:51:21 AM
Quote from: alantani on June 23, 2014, 12:42:52 AM
yup, lee and scotch are the reason i forgot my reel bag!!!!   ;D

;D
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: ChileRelleno on June 23, 2014, 01:08:19 AM
Wow, great report & pics.
Sorry that so little tuna was caught...  BUT...  Dang if all that Hamachi doesn't make up for it.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: johndtuttle on June 23, 2014, 01:41:01 AM
Thanks for the nice report Alan and I love how you set the trip up with the sharing of fish etc.  ;)

The only thing that beats WFO Yellows is WFO Tuna. Can't have everything I guess.  :P

best



ps You're busted as a Spinner lover!  :D

pps. Props to the fisherman with the Jigmaster and Long rod hanging a Yellow I saw on the video.

Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Big Tim on June 23, 2014, 02:37:27 AM
Awesome!!! I am glad you gave notice to troll team 3  ;D ;D ;D We did rock it!!! Sort of.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: El Pescador on June 23, 2014, 01:16:29 PM
Quote from: Dominick on June 23, 2014, 12:36:35 AM
I didn't get to go on the trip but I got a first hand report and photos from Lee.  Since Lee had a long trip from San Diego to Oregon, I invited him to sleep over.  Lee arrived with some fresh yellowtail for the table.  I called Wayne (El Pescador) to come over and join us.  We sat around and listened to Lee regale us with a description of the SOA trip.  We all ate and drank a little too much.  It was fun.  Dominick

Here is Lee showing photos to Wayne.
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/lmdl4law/SOA%20AFTERMATH/P1000794_zpsec262a59.jpg) (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/lmdl4law/media/SOA%20AFTERMATH/P1000794_zpsec262a59.jpg.html)


Dominick!  Fantastic party you put together!!!

And Lee, I must say, to use the moniquer, YOU ARE The Fishing World's "Most Interesting Man!!!"

To hear some of your lifetime fishing stories, it made for a very enjoyable evening!!

And THANK YOU for the package of YTail, I cut it in half to enjoy last night and called my son and told him to swing by for his piece of some wonderful fish, He did !

I now want to fish in the next AlanTani.com Long Range trip!  Looks to be my kind of fishing trip!  Great guys, good fishing, lots of food!!!

and as my Fishing hat says, "Life is Simple:  Eat, Sleep, FISH!"

Wayne
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 23, 2014, 01:34:47 PM
Good Stuff! ;D
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Cone on June 23, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
Great trip and report! I know you all had a great time. I wish I could have been there. I can think of nothing better to do with friends!
Bob
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: anglingarchitect on June 23, 2014, 03:36:47 PM
Looks like a good time, sorry you didn't catch a few more Tuna, but that Grouper was a hoss.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 23, 2014, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: alantani on June 23, 2014, 12:42:52 AM
yup, lee and scotch are the reason i forgot my reel bag!!!!   ;D

Yeah Alan, but you sure didn't let that spinner get a rest. One killer biscuit and one awesome broomtail! :o :o
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Newell Nut on June 23, 2014, 08:54:46 PM
Glad you guys had a great trip and thanks for the report. Sure looked like a lot of fun.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: alantani on June 23, 2014, 10:29:20 PM
i think i may have said that i didn't like working on them.  i never said i didn't know how to use one!   ;D
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: TomT on June 24, 2014, 12:17:06 AM
i think i may have said that i didn't like working on them. ;D ::) ::)

MAY HAVE SAID!! ;D ;D ;D
TomT
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Alto Mare on June 24, 2014, 01:13:15 AM
Quote from: alantani on June 23, 2014, 10:29:20 PM
i think i may have said that i didn't like working on them.  i never said i didn't know how to use one!   ;D
I'm sending you one of my Penn ;)
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 24, 2014, 04:21:44 AM
Quote from: alantani on February 27, 2012, 07:58:22 PM
i hate spinners.......    ;D

in all fairness to our fearless leader, it was about repairs. obviously alan knows how to use - 50# braid right to the hook for the big boys. :o
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: alantani on June 24, 2014, 04:25:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwDmV1KWrKQ
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: broschro on June 24, 2014, 01:30:37 PM
that's a monster broomtail  :o we call those scamp grouper in Florida. They do not get that big though.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on June 24, 2014, 04:43:17 PM
Alan as always an excellent report. here's a big thanks to you...
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: anglingarchitect on June 24, 2014, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: broschro on June 24, 2014, 01:30:37 PM
that's a monster broomtail  :o we call those scamp grouper in Florida. They do not get that big though.

Not sure they are they same species as Scamp.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: TomT on June 25, 2014, 02:30:03 AM
Loved the Quigley shootout video!!!  ;D ;D
TomT
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Aiala on June 25, 2014, 02:18:21 PM
As I prep for my upcoming 4-day, I'm wondering: On your trip, what lb-test line (mono) was most frequently used? (I'm trying to decide what/how much to bring.)

Thanks!  :)

~A~

Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Keta on June 25, 2014, 02:24:27 PM
I fished 12'-16' (from the reel to the rod tip and back to the reel) 30# and 50# Fluorocarbon leaders on 25# and 50# rigs for everything but trolling, my trolling rig had 80# mono.  The rigs I loaned Jimmer were set up the same way, 30# on the 25# rig and 50# on the 40# rig.  The first day Jimmer was the hot stick (7 YT), the second day he was right on top with several of us in the 7 to 8 YT range.

The topshots were longer than the 10' ones I usually use because the deckhands cut off a lot of hooks if they were deep so I didn't have to change the L-2-L topshots often.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Porthos on June 25, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
40lb and 50lb. ~30' of mono top shot to 5-6' of fluoro.

The Fin Nor LT100 had only ~12' of 50 lb mono top shot since I was casting/dropping/yoyoing jigs and irons on it--no flylining.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Aiala on June 25, 2014, 03:58:19 PM
Hm, guess I definitely need to buy some flouro... 30lb and 50lb, yes? I've never used the stuff before and caught tons of fish without it, but I gather it's practically de rigeur these days, so... back to the wallet. <sigh>  :-\

~A~

Can I attach it to the mono with a blood knot?
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on June 25, 2014, 04:18:13 PM
I hooked all my yellowtails with 40lb topshots. most of them with this setup, 50lb izorline spectra top with no more than 7' of fluoro. the 2nd one, my yoyo outfit, i started with straight ande 40lb clear mono and nothing till i tied a 6' fluoro using a uni-uni connection and voila 2 hook ups. guess the fluoro worked  ???...
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Porthos on June 25, 2014, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: Aiala on June 25, 2014, 03:58:19 PM
Hm, guess I definitely need to buy some flouro... 30lb and 50lb, yes? I've never used the stuff before and caught tons of fish without it, but I gather it's practically de rigeur these days, so... back to the wallet. <sigh>  :-\

~A~

Can I attach it to the mono with a blood knot?


Yes. Practice (if needed) with mono to mono first before doing it for real with fluoro.

I used the triple surgeon's knot.

I had some of the Hi Seas Fluoro on the trip; it's the least expensive fluoro I've found:
http://www.charkbait.com/cs/cshleader.htm
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Dominick on June 25, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: Aiala on June 25, 2014, 03:58:19 PM
Hm, guess I definitely need to buy some flouro... 30lb and 50lb, yes? I've never used the stuff before and caught tons of fish without it, but I gather it's practically de rigeur these days, so... back to the wallet. <sigh>  :-\

~A~

Can I attach it to the mono with a blood knot?

Aiala:  Also put a drop of super glue on the knot.  I have had flouro unravel at the knot.  There is plenty of information on the net on best ways to attach.  Pick the easiest and use the glue.  Dominick
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Ron Jones on June 25, 2014, 05:57:49 PM
After the SOA trip I have decided that, other for abrasion resistance or areas where you will go through a lot of line, mono is for the birds. I used several different rigs, all of mine had mono and all the others were straight braid with a short floro leader. The floro got bit way more often and the sensitivity was amazing. I'm certain I would have brought more fish over the rail if I had nothing but braid and floro.
Ron
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: johndtuttle on June 25, 2014, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on June 25, 2014, 05:57:49 PM
After the SOA trip I have decided that, other for abrasion resistance or areas where you will go through a lot of line, mono is for the birds. I used several different rigs, all of mine had mono and all the others were straight braid with a short floro leader. The floro got bit way more often and the sensitivity was amazing. I'm certain I would have brought more fish over the rail if I had nothing but braid and floro.
Ron

The ways of the tuna-force are many and complicated :D.

Mono top shots still have their place for some applications, especially long fights on larger model fish. The issue is stretch to keep you connected and to produce less ability for the hook to wear a hole in the fish's mouth that can lead to pulled hooks. Fluoro has poor stretch.

One of the reasons I fish lighter rods than most is that when using straight braid to a short fluoro leader the softer rod helps me stay connected. When I fish a stiffer rod (for larger models) a little stretch is beneficial and the mono top shot (or longer leader) comes into play etc.

It's a system, ideally, of matched rod, reel and line components plus the angler knowing what he is working with to produce success.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Aiala on June 25, 2014, 07:24:13 PM
Dom, good tip on the glue, thanks! As for braid, it doesn't interest me, I am a mono gal all the way, but if fluoro equates to more bites, I can see how that's a definite plus. Gotta go order some forthwith.  (http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/smile.gif)

~A~
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: alantani on June 25, 2014, 07:47:24 PM
small two speed reels, 400 yards of spectra, short fluorocarbon topshots, a tony pena know from the spectra to the fluoro, a carefully tied palomar from the fluoro to the hook.  no glue needed.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Marc Fong on June 27, 2014, 07:02:59 AM
You guys look like you had a fantastic time. Congratulations to Alan for hitting it out of the park. Sure hope I can join you guys next year. Any more pictures?
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Ron Jones on June 27, 2014, 08:12:09 AM
I agree with everything Alan said except the transmission. Dang things weird me out. An ecentric, star and crank are all I need. Maybe a click button on the left plate.
Ron
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 27, 2014, 08:28:32 PM
Quote from: Aiala on June 25, 2014, 07:24:13 PM
Dom, good tip on the glue, thanks! As for braid, it doesn't interest me, I am a mono gal all the way, but if fluoro equates to more bites, I can see how that's a definite plus. Gotta go order some forthwith.  (http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/smile.gif)

~A~

I used 50 and 65# braid on my YT reels with a 5-foot 40# fluoro leader (topshot, whatever). I joined the braid and fluoro together using the Alberto knot with a drop of UV glue to secure things (like Dominick). Zero knot failures.
For trolling prison I used a short 80# fluoro leader joined to the 80# mono with a uni-uni. Terminal tackle knots were mostly San Diego Jam on 40 lb. and up with Palomars used on the small lines when making bait and for Calicos.

Note: I started off with 50# leaders, but didn't get many (or any) hits until I switched to 40#. I was fine with only 20# (Calicos & making bait), 40# (workhorse + YT), 50# for the BFT (that were playing hard-to-get), and 80# fluoro leaders (only because I 'borrowed' some). So 20, 40, and 50 lb. fluoro is all I really needed.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Aiala on June 27, 2014, 08:40:36 PM
Can I assume that fluoro isn't necessary on a yoyo outfit?   ???

~A~
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on June 27, 2014, 08:53:31 PM
Aiala,

I'm really not sure if it's necessary or not but this was the result when i tied a fluoro;

Quote from: ML B on June 25, 2014, 04:18:13 PM
....the 2nd one, my yoyo outfit, i started with straight ande 40lb clear mono and nothing till i tied a 6' fluoro using a uni-uni connection and voila 2 hook ups. guess the fluoro worked  ???...

Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: johndtuttle on June 27, 2014, 10:21:14 PM
It is always hard to say that ones jig is definitely in front of a fish that wants to bite so changing to fluoro and then getting bit on iron is 'anecdotal' at best.

However, and this is a big HOWEVER, there is no question that Fluoro is more abrasion resistant. Anytime you are trying to avoid cut offs be they on teeth or the bottom fluoro is superior.

I really like it for Wahoo.

Now, Wahoo can even cut wire with their teeth so nothing is perfect, but they also get wire shy.

Fluoro is the best of all worlds, imo, when abrasion resistance is indicated.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 27, 2014, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: ML B on June 27, 2014, 08:53:31 PM
Aiala,

I'm really not sure if it's necessary or not but this was the result when i tied a fluoro;

Quote from: ML B on June 25, 2014, 04:18:13 PM
....the 2nd one, my yoyo outfit, i started with straight ande 40lb clear mono and nothing till i tied a 6' fluoro using a uni-uni connection and voila 2 hook ups. guess the fluoro worked  ???...



I agree with Mel ....
It could be a visibility thing. Fluoro is more transparent in the water than nylon mono. I'm an old school kind of guy, but I'm a believer in super braids, fluorocarbon line, and thanks to Mel, small two-speed reels.  8) :)
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Big Tim on June 28, 2014, 01:21:59 AM
Aiala, For what it's worth I didn't catch one fish using Fluorocarbon ... Not one broken knot, only a semi spooled HX 5/2 by a seal and the 65# Power Pro broke. I used double uni's and San Diego Jam knot, but the fish weren't that large either 40# and under mostly. And by the way I had greased drags on the HX and it was smooth as silk until full lock down >:( ...Have fun on your trip.

Big Tim
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Nessie Hunter on June 29, 2014, 04:04:19 PM
AMAZING TRIP !!!!
Thanks to all for the information and reports, videos, pics and stories.

;D ;D ;D

Have been waiting for a full write up (to live vicariously)..
Good job Alan. Great trip, great group, great boat and crew!!




.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Fish-aholic on June 29, 2014, 05:04:55 PM
Quote from: Nessie Hunter on June 29, 2014, 04:04:19 PM
AMAZING TRIP !!!!
Thanks to all for the information and reports, videos, pics and stories.

;D ;D ;D

Have been waiting for a full write up (to live vicariously)..
Good job Alan. Great trip, great group, great boat and crew!!


x2

What a cracking trip. I hope it's the first of many the members here have together!!!  ;D
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: alantani on June 29, 2014, 05:17:58 PM
you know what would be nice is a trip to alaska or british columbia.  particularly if my wife could take a side trip while i fish. 
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Ron Jones on June 29, 2014, 08:24:12 PM
That would be great also. Now we need to figure out where to do deep bottom fishing, what coves have the rock fish in them. What river is running with the best salmon and steelhead. Decisions, decisions.
Ron
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 29, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
Ucluelet, BC, Canada. Check it out on Google Earth.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ucluelet+fishing&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

Not much shopping for the non-fishing ladies, but the salmon are there! Have the ladies go to Vancouver, BC (with a low-limit credit card, of course).  ;D ;D

Some associates make an annual multi-day excursion to Seward, AK and bring home halibut, salmon, lings, yelloweye, ...
I know my wife would like to go to Canada or Alaska. ;)
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Aiala on June 29, 2014, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on June 29, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
Have the ladies go to Vancouver, BC (with a low-limit credit card, of course).  ;D

Excellent idea! 15K ought to do it.  ::)

~A~

Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Dominick on June 29, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: Aiala on June 29, 2014, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on June 29, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
Have the ladies go to Vancouver, BC (with a low-limit credit card, of course).  ;D

Excellent idea! 15K ought to do it.  ::)
~A~
15 K cool.  They must sell collectable reels there.  ;D  ;D   Dominick
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: DanteV on July 02, 2014, 12:54:24 AM
Great trip! You guys were early birds and made the most of it for sure! Congrats to the chartermaster for making it all come together..
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Steve-O on June 21, 2016, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: alantani on June 29, 2014, 05:17:58 PM
you know what would be nice is a trip to alaska or british columbia.  particularly if my wife could take a side trip while i fish.  

now yer talkin!!


Southeast Alaska - my home away from home.


BC- guess I would need a passport renewal

Southcentral AK - bleh...just my opinion YMMV

Just got back...thinking about a fall Coho run 4 day trip. ;D


Oops! almost forgot....BIG CONGRATS to all on this SOA trip!
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: David Hall on June 21, 2016, 08:10:19 PM
Steve what year is it?
LOL Ihad to read through this twice before I realized.
Title: Re: trip report - spirit of adventure 6/16-21/2014
Post by: Steve-O on June 22, 2016, 01:02:46 PM
Quote from: David Hall on June 21, 2016, 08:10:19 PM
Steve what year is it?
LOL Ihad to read through this twice before I realized.

Hey David, too funny!

Thanks for the wake up call.

next time I post, I'll set my alarm clock or look at the calendar.

Surely I was sleeping at the wheel.

now... back to 2016