Daiwa Sealine Saltwater Conventional Reel 300H
When it comes to tough-built ocean reels, nothing even comes close to Sealine. Piece by piece, there's no shortcuts, just rock-solid construction. So you don't need to add custom frames or metal side plates to make them hold up to your style of fishing. Or custom drag washers to handle record class fish. They're already built in. Built to take it, there just isn't another ocean reel worth.
Sealine® Features:
Comes complete, no expensive add-ons needed
Sealed stainless steel ball bearings
Machine-cut bronze and stainless steel gears
Smooth disc drag
Spool click
Hard anodized and paraffined finish
Strong aluminum spool and side plates
Rugged one-piece aluminum frame
High speed retrieve
Daiwa Sealine Saltwater Conventional Reels
Model Number Action FW / SW Bearings Gear Ratio Line Per Handle Turn Wt. (oz.) Line Capacity (Lb. Test / Yards) Drag Max Average $
Casting, Jigging & Trolling Reels
Sealine 900H - / H 2 BB 2.9:1 54.5 oz 50/720, 80/400, 130/290 33 $160
Sealine 600H - / MH 2 BB 3.1:1 43.9 oz 40/520, 50/400, 80/320 $140
Sealine 450H - / M 2 BB 3.4:1 30.5" 36.0 oz 40/420 22 $130
Sealine 400H - / M 2 BB 3.4:1 30.5" 34.9 oz 30/460, 40/350, 50/280 22 $130
Sealine 350H - / ML 2 BB 3.7:1 23.6 oz 25/450, 30/370, 40/280 17.6 $115
Sealine 300H - / ML 2 BB 3.7:1 29.9" 22.9 oz 25/360, 30/310, 40/230 17.6 $115
Sealine 50H
Sealine 47SH XH / L 2 BB 5.1:1 33.9" 22.0 oz 12/480, 14/380, 20/280 17.6
Sealine 30H H / L 14/380, 20/280, 25/220
Sealine 27SH H / L 2 BB 4.6:1 23" 15.9 oz 12/330, 14/260, 20/220 11
BB = Stainless Steel Ball Bearing
If you can help fill in the gaps, that would be great. Thank you.
Quote from: Bryan Young on October 28, 2014, 06:13:01 PM
Daiwa Sealine Saltwater Conventional Reel 300H
When it comes to tough-built ocean reels, nothing even comes close to Sealine. Piece by piece, there's no shortcuts, just rock-solid construction. So you don't need to add custom frames or metal side plates to make them hold up to your style of fishing. Or custom drag washers to handle record class fish. They're already built in. Built to take it, there just isn't another ocean reel worth.
Sealine® Features:
Comes complete, no expensive add-ons needed
Sealed stainless steel ball bearings
Machine-cut bronze and stainless steel gears
Smooth disc drag
Spool click
Hard anodized and paraffined finish
Strong aluminum spool and side plates
Rugged one-piece aluminum frame
High speed retrieve
Daiwa Sealine Saltwater Conventional Reels
Model Number Action FW / SW Bearings Gear Ratio Line Per Handle Turn Wt. (oz.) Line Capacity (Lb. Test / Yards) Drag Max Average $
Casting, Jigging & Trolling Reels
Sealine 900H - / H 2 BB 2.9:1 54.5 oz 50/720, 80/400, 130/290 33 $160
Sealine 600H - / MH 2 BB 3.1:1 43.9 oz 40/520, 50/400, 80/320 $140
Sealine 450H - / M 2 BB 3.4:1 30.5" 36.0 oz 40/420 22 $130
Sealine 400H - / M 2 BB 3.4:1 30.5" 34.9 oz 30/460, 40/350, 50/280 22 $130
Sealine 350H - / ML 2 BB 3.7:1 23.6 oz 25/450, 30/370, 40/280 17.6 $115
Sealine 300H - / ML 2 BB 3.7:1 29.9" 22.9 oz 25/360, 30/310, 40/230 17.6 $115
Sealine 50H 2 BB 4.2:1 29.7" 22.6 oz 20/450, 25/380, 30/320
Sealine 47SH XH / L 2 BB 5.1:1 33.9" 22.0 oz 12/480, 14/380, 20/280 17.6
Sealine 30H H / L 2 BB 3.8:1 19.0 oz 14/380, 20/280, 25/220
Sealine 27SH H / L 2 BB 4.6:1 23" 15.9 oz 12/330, 14/260, 20/220 11
BB = Stainless Steel Ball Bearing
If you can help fill in the gaps, that would be great. Thank you.
Added some specs for the 30H and 50H
Thank you and welcome.
Here it is cleaned up a bit for easier reading. Hope it works.
Thanks go to Bryan for putting this info together. It was just cut and paste for the spreadsheet.
So my 350h can out fish my 113h. Gotta reset my line up. Wasting that 350h with only 20lb string
Quote from: Tom McKinney on May 21, 2015, 01:33:42 AM
So my 350h can out fish my 113h. Gotta reset my line up. Wasting that 350h with only 20lb string
Well, that all depends... :-\
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12766.msg126071#msg126071
Quote from: Tom McKinney on May 21, 2015, 01:33:42 AM
So my 350h can out fish my 113h. Gotta reset my line up. Wasting that 350h with only 20lb string
JohnTuttle calls the Sealines "Japanese Senators". Alan T calls them "diamonds in the rough." If someone was to make stainless gear sleeves and gears for these reels they would be WORLD BEATERS for very little investment. They already come stock from the factory with stainless steel: setplate/bridge, dogs/pawls, ratchets. Also aluminum frame and side plates. Just a great value for the money. If I could machine parts; these are the reels I would focus on. Way back when; I too drank the Penn kool-aide, but not when it came to a 6/0 reel. I just couldnt see buying a 6/0 compared to the 600H. Soon Adam/Three Se7ens will have stainless inserts as Sal is showing in the above link for the 600H. Glad someone saw the merits of the 600H; hope more Sealine stainless parts/upgrade will come for others as well.
Leo
Coincidentally Leo, I just spent an hour looking at all my Daiwas yesterday.
If you look at my Magforce 170 series, it is a framed, magged, 99 sized killer casting reel. I went back to Ebay this morning to find another. There's one there for $44.00! A Tiburon 99 frame alone is going to cost you $69.00 plus.
If performance alone is what you are considering, you can't beat a Daiwa Sealine IMO.
If we had some Stainless parts, we'd be bullet proof a lot cheaper than going the full monty Penn route. Maybe not as flashy, but fish can't tell the difference.
The primary "conventional" reels I'm taking on the upcoming 2015 SOA Charter will be two 600H's (100lb and 80lb), two 400H's (60lb and 50lb), one 300H (40lb), and one 30H (30lb). Every reel can double-duty and go up another weight class from what I've designated in the ( )'s.
All have been upgraded to T-bar handles and have CF washers in either 5-stack (400H and higher) or 3-stack (300H and lower) configuration.
Every one was bought used, and In terms of value, the most I paid was $60 each for the first two 600H's (have a third 600H as a backup/parts reel that was less than $39).
I have to admit, those Daiwa's are tough. I have a 900H, a 600H and a 27SH I got from Randy. I just need the ones in the middle now. ;D
Daron, I blame you for my recent purchase of a 900h. I was reading one of your posts from a year ago where you said you'd hop on one at $100, and I found one for $89. So I jumped, lol.
I'm gonna beef it all up with the parts available and then trade you for something. :o
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 21, 2015, 03:27:24 AM
Coincidentally Leo, I just spent an hour looking at all my Daiwas yesterday.
If you look at my Magforce 170 series, it is a framed, magged, 99 sized killer casting reel. I went back to Ebay this morning to find another. There's one there for $44.00! A Tiburon 99 frame alone is going to cost you $69.00 plus.
If performance alone is what you are considering, you can't beat a Daiwa Sealine IMO.
If we had some Stainless parts, we'd be bullet proof a lot cheaper than going the full monty Penn route. Maybe not as flashy, but fish can't tell the difference.
What are the specs on that mag force Randy
Quote from: Shark Hunter on May 21, 2015, 04:24:31 AM
I have to admit, those Daiwa's are tough. I have a 900H, a 600H and a 27SH I got from Randy. I just need the ones in the middle now. ;D
Hey Daron!
The 300H's and 400H's on eBay seem to be the harder ones to come by. The 30H's and 50H's come up a little more frequently. Pricewise, I've seen the 30H, 300H, and 400H go for more than the 600H--go figure.
Search on "Diawa" as well as "Daiwa"
If the name plate doesn't matter as much to you, this one is up:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111675279858?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
You can call up Daiwa to see if they still have the name plates available (they are not listed on any schematic--gotta ask).
Since you've rebuilt your son's Magforce 170 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11005.0), it has an all metal frame, yes?
Wai
Jason, the version I have is the 170H so it is already 5.1 to 1. New in the box. I've had it for a decade.
300 yds of 20lb mono capacity. 2Ball Bearing, one of which is on the spool shaft itself.
Magged sideplate. One piece topless aluminum frame. Stainless guts (chromed brass?), bronze gear. Aluminum spool has a 1-3/4" wide opening.
(3) knurled screws let you pop off the drive side plate for inspection. 3 stack drag.
Has a pretty good sized counterbalanced crank arm. (24-56 Penn size)?
Loud dog operation, but I like that. Clicker not so loud.
Feels hefty if you have average size hands like me. Not as nice as a 506 size but a much better all round reel straight from the box. Think I paid $35.00.
I have (2) 47H, (1) 50H, (1) 170 and (1) 250. All in new-ish condition. I've had them all a long time. Can you tell I'm a Daiwa fan?
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 21, 2015, 03:04:17 PM
...Has a pretty good sized counterbalanced crank arm. (24-56 Penn size)?...I have (2) 47H, (1) 50H, (1) 170 and (1) 250. All in new-ish condition. I've had them all a long time. Can you tell I'm a Daiwa fan?
If the 170 handle is the same as the 30H handle then 24-56 is slightly smaller on the rounded ends of the hole--needs a touch of filing to fit.
I'm right behind ya on the Daiwa fandom thing...the 170 may be the replacement candidate for my Penn 970...the latter seems to be gaining in value to a point where it maybe shouldn't be fished hard or at all. If the 970 was just $$$ and still in-production, then not an issue, but being $$$ AND out-of-production makes me a little wary. It was almost a Tolkien-esque quest just to find the 970 left side plates.
I was just comparing sizes on the handles, not suggesting adding one.
I hear you on the 970's. I've never fished mine. But it's just because I have plenty of reels that I don't have to worry about while fishing, so I use them instead.
You'll find the 170 is a bit bigger than a 970. Add a half inch in width.
And thanks for coming up with a magnet for mine back then!
You're welcome on the magnet...it came from the 970 "parts-reel" that I bought for the side plates that also had a non-970 pinion (not hobbed/ringed) inside--further sealing its fate as a parts-reel.
Looks like I'll be looking for a Magforce 170...no hurry though.
I trully forgot to thank Gary/gstours and Bryan Yong for their help with reincarnating my 600H. Bryans drags and Garys machine work to add an extra dog/pawl has created a monster 600H.
Thanx all,
Leo
I have a 600h that I have converted to 5+1 and it held the boat in 430m as an anchor (unintentionally) I am in the proccess of doing the same to a 900h. the washers are so fat this is a piece of cake. will one day double dog them
Thanks Porthos,
You can blame me if you want Randy. That a good deal on that 900H. ;)
Daron,
If you don't mind a re-labelling, Sears used to sell their version of a rebranded Daiwa 30H, the Gamefisher TR/41:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281697442003?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Just trying to help you spend your $$... ;)
Wai
Wai,
As much as I would like to start another collection. I am refraining. I have so many reels as it is. I know this is hard to believe, but I think I have enough for now. They are in every room of my house. ;D
Lets just say I have enough to keep me busy all winter.
Daron, don't you have storage in the garage? ;D
I hear ya about having plenty. I don't regret this 900H though. I am really excited to get out and do my version of 'Old man and the Sea' lol.
Well,
Wai has hit my button. I am on a Sealine collection quest. Despite my best efforts to fight it.
I have two 900H's, two 600H's, two 300H's, a 27H from Randy. Now the hard ones. A 350, 400 and 450.
The 30 and 50H will be the last on the line up.
I was searching today and came across two 300H's with all the Alan Tani Upgrades. Say what?
I sent the gentleman a message and he is a member here, just never posted. Made the deal. ;D
Kokelar handles and drag upgrades.
I almost pulled the trigger when I saw that too!
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 25, 2015, 05:51:17 AM
I have two 900H's, two 600H's, two 300H's, a 27H from Randy. Now the hard ones. A 350, 400 and 450.
The 30 and 50H will be the last on the line up.
I was searching today and came across two 300H's with all the Alan Tani Upgrades. Say what?
I almost bought those two also - they looked so nice - but then I thought was getting in to deep. Now I kinow I'm not alone...
Man Daron your addiction is REEL. You all have me wanting more reels and I already have to many haha
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 25, 2015, 05:51:17 AM
Well,
Wai has hit my button. I am on a Sealine collection quest. Despite my best efforts to fight it.
I have two 900H's, two 600H's, two 300H's, a 27H from Randy. Now the hard ones. A 350, 400 and 450.
The 30 and 50H will be the last on the line up...
I swear there were NO Jedi mind tricks involved!!!
Wow, I didn't know about the Sears reels. Those will probably be a little cheaper...well, until now >:(
Oliver's pictures of those 300's don't do them Justice. Check out the hot dog handles! ;D
Scored two really nice Magforce reels and a 30H in the past two weeks. The 170SH and the SMF 250.
I now have the 27,47,30H,50H,300,400,450 and pairs of the 600 and 900H's. Only the 350 is left.
Its all your fault Porthos. ;D
You gave into the Dark Side too easily...
...but don't forget about the 30SH...the Super Hi-Speed 30H...you need one of those too in your collection!!!
If I'm gonna be blamed for this, let's make sure it's justified.
The 300H/350H's had variants with lugged side-plates. Here's my 300H:
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m153/Amadeus_Surf/DSCF1203_zpscrk5c94c.jpg)
OH, and the 300H, 350H, 400H, 450H, and 600H came in SILVER frames too. Some examples:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Daiwa-Sealine-450H-Fishing-Reel-/371455514655?hash=item567c79581f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAIWA-SEALINE-600H-TROLLING-FISHING-REEL-/391116072212?hash=item5b1055a514
This one is real pretty:
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/spo/5184416492.html
This one's way overpriced, though:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAIWA-SEALINE-TROLLING-REEL-600H-/161189476167?hash=item2587a43747
;D
I have some silver ones too a 900, 600 and 400. I didn't know about the 30SH.
Here's my silver 350H:
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m153/Amadeus_Surf/DSCF1204_zpszwlzbmmz.jpg)
It was mistakenly listed as a 300H on CL locally, but I bought it for $30 anyway because of the lugged plates that I wanted for my 300H. The left side plate 350H decal was missing, but my request to Daiwa for a replacement 300H decal was successful. So the 350H is currently "tagged" as a 300H. Except for the 350H frame and spool, all the other 350H's parts are intended to be a replacement inventory for my 300H. My two 50H's serve the same purpose; The 300H's 3.7:1 gears have been swapped out for the 50H's 4.2:1 gears. That's how I ended up with a dark gray, lugged, and 4.2:1 geared 300H.
My 30H, 300H, 400H's, and 600H's are working reels and serve as my main lineup--I don't have an extensive "tank'd Penn lineup to serve as my front line, and I DON'T intend to go there. The upgraded Sealines fulfill the majority what I need for a fraction of the $$$$ of what I've seen you guys put into the Penns.
I might pickup a 30SH if I happen across one for cheap but I'm not actively on the hunt. I defer that privilege to you. ;)
Let me know if I can help in any way.
Nice haul, D. I stole a magforce some years ago at a pawn shop and found it an off the shelf tank for surf casting. as nice as the slosh and shxv cast, i think the magforce would pull them apart in an old-school truck pull.
I gave $90 for both the magforce reels shipped. I got lucky there.
Wai, Thanks for your input Buddy. I am in no Hurry. Good things come to those who wait. ;)
Nice. I know you'll be opening them up; let us see what you do there.
J
$45 average per MagForce isn't bad at all given the relative infrequency that they show up on Ebay.
;D well done and deserved
Hey porthos, you think the silver frames are older models? I noticed when I took apart my 600h (silver frame) that there were slight differences, then in the parts diagram from Daiwa's website. An example that comes to mind is the lack of a spacer/washer on the freespool lever. There were a couple other differences, such as the bridgeplate. There are others but can't remember exactly what it is.
The grey models have a step at the bottom center of the main gear & the black ones don't if everything is original. The grey ones are the older of the two.
Quote from: RowdyW on October 11, 2015, 01:44:18 AM
The grey models have a step at the bottom center of the main gear & the black ones don't if everything is original. The grey ones are the older of the two.
That would mean they started out gray, went to silver, and returned to gray before Daiwa retired them completely from the product line.
Grey, silver, half a dozen of one & six of the other. I believe black was the final color.
Black...you mean the current lineup with "...composite..." frames?
http://www.daiwa.com/reel/detail.aspx?id=694
Those would not be in the same class as the all metal Sealine H's...
No, black aluminum frame H models.
Daron,
Looks like you need to chase down reels in all three frame colors... ;). It is a Sealine "collection," yes? ;D
Wai
Wai,
My Sealine collecting is coming to a close. I have all the metal framed versions except for the 350H.
The 30SH is something I can live without. There is also a 50 high speed I can pass on by as well. I will start upgrading them one by one when I get the time. Thank You for all your help. ;)
Wai, the grey & the silver is the same reel. Some call it grey & some call it silver. As far as the black one you can call it black or dark grey when it's faded by the sun. There are the only two colors that I know of. RUDY
Thx for the lineage history...I only got into the Sealines six years ago. It would appear all of mine, except for the 350H, are the faded black ones...but that's OK...the fish appear to not care. ;)
That was what I thought, thanks. Any parts list available online for the old sealine h versions? More curious to know how much my old silver frame sealine is in original stock condition. I know, probably very insignificant differences. As i said before, I think the biggest differences between the old and new are the bridgeplates (old one has four posts for the plate screws instead of only three). Well, at least on the 600hs. That's the only version I own.
Do you have any pics of this three post bridge and the screws?
Quote from: newport on October 12, 2015, 07:35:07 AM
That was what I thought, thanks. Any parts list available online for the old sealine h versions? More curious to know how much my old silver frame sealine is in original stock condition. I know, probably very insignificant differences. As i said before, I think the biggest differences between the old and new are the bridgeplates (old one has four posts for the plate screws instead of only three). Well, at least on the 600hs. That's the only version I own.
As far as I know the only main difference between them is that the Grey (silver) has a ridge in the main gear & the black (dark grey) doesn't. The new main gears that you order from Daiwa don't have the ridge. Everything is interchangeable between both. RUDY
Quote from: Porthos on October 12, 2015, 03:43:36 PM
Do you have any pics of this three post bridge and the screws?
I'll get a photo up as soon as I can.
The first two is the new bridge and the screws that hold the sideplate and bridge together. It's brand new from Daiwa. It is the version that is on their current parts list schematic. I actually had to get the new screw that goes with it -- the one with only the threads on the end.
Third photo shows the old bridge plate and you can see that it has a fourth post with a regular threaded screw.
Then all three of my 600H's have the old version bridge.
Finally scored a 350H. NIB, Good things come to those who wait. ;)
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm11/ddyer2/PTDC0051_zpskhf3bw4m.jpg) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/ddyer2/media/PTDC0051_zpskhf3bw4m.jpg.html)
Had been playing with the idea of just giving you my silver 350H frame and spool...you would have had to use the plates from one of your 300H's to complete...though asking you for your mailing address would have given it away.
I already gave the twin 300H I had to my son.
I have every one on the list and a couple duplicates of the bigger models.
I guess I need to look for the HS 30 now.
YES, I do LOVE my Daiwa SEALINE H reels !
I had three "Dream Reels" in mind that, unfortunately, Daiwa never produced . . . 650H, 950H, 1200H . . . THOSE would have been EPIC ! ! !
Tight Lines !
I may be putting my 400H to the test this week
Funny how I've been just going nuts shopping and researching a good 50-60# 2- speed
and pretty much narrowed it down to the Makaira 10II-SEA or AVET HX Raptor
And I am leaning towards the Makaira and trying to decide between the 15ii or 10ii
But .. that is a lot of money and will have to wait until a fat commission comes in later this month.
But I want to go fishing.. now!!!
I have a seldom used 400H that Byran helped me get a 5+ stack of washers and the drag is rock solid.
And I think I tested it 22#s on my spring scale.
So.. I think I go old school on the bluefin next week and go 3.4:1 and a new Power Handle from Smoothdrag
I bought and had not decided on what reel to put it on. So I think it goes on the 400H for now.
It has a 30" retrieve so the gear should be plenty low enough for bigger tuna.
Pictures of fresh ahi to come :-)
Todd
Quote from: tgorman on September 08, 2016, 12:58:15 AM
I may be putting my 400H to the test this week
Funny how I've been just going nuts shopping and researching a good 50-60# 2- speed
and pretty much narrowed it down to the Makaira 10II-SEA or AVET HX Raptor
And I am leaning towards the Makaira and trying to decide between the 15ii or 10ii
But .. that is a lot of money and will have to wait until a fat commission comes in later this month.
But I want to go fishing.. now!!!
I have a seldom used 400H that Byran helped me get a 5+ stack of washers and the drag is rock solid.
And I think I tested it 22#s on my spring scale.
So.. I think I go old school on the bluefin next week and go 3.4:1 and a new Power Handle from Smoothdrag
I bought and had not decided on what reel to put it on. So I think it goes on the 400H for now.
It has a 30" retrieve so the gear should be plenty low enough for bigger tuna.
Pictures of fresh ahi to come :-)
Todd
I have yet (and not for the lack of trying) to hook up to a fish big enough to put the 5+1's in my 400H's or 600H's to the test.
Bent rods and tight lines! Looking forward to the report.
And Tom (Cortez) makes the new stainless gear sleeves to make the 600h almost bullet proof. That is where I would put my money.
(And will).
Quote from: Rancanfish on September 08, 2016, 10:11:55 PM
And Tom (Cortez) makes the new stainless gear sleeves to make the 600h almost bullet proof. That is where I would put my money.
(And will).
May do the same...
Wai, I want to get my Daiwa's together and go on a fishing trip with you. We'll show those high dollar guys all they need is a good Daiwa.
Quote from: Rancanfish on September 09, 2016, 09:34:01 PM
Wai, I want to get my Daiwa's together and go on a fishing trip with you. We'll show those high dollar guys all they need is a good Daiwa.
The 2017 SOA sign-ups are coming up soon.
Unfortunately, the option of flying down to PV in November this year and fishing with Alan is NOT an option open to me...not enough brownie points with my "Boss."
Maybe Big Tim will organize another Morro Bay trip...
[/quote]
I have yet (and not for the lack of trying) to hook up to a fish big enough to put the 5+1's in my 400H's or 600H's to the test.
Bent rods and tight lines! Looking forward to the report.
[/quote]
I got a chance to test my 600h on some yft and bigeyes on September 1-2. I set my drag at 20lbs with 60lb mono main line and 80lb flurocarbon leader, and it worked wonderfully. I lost a nice bigeye tuna that made a nice run that dumped more line than made me comfortable. As we were just seeing color in the water, it pulled the hook. My arrms, hands, and back were sore, but reel functioned fine. The drag felt flawless and smooth. I have the 5 stack drag as well, but am not getting the full 35lb max range (I'm getting a max of 25lbs more or less). I have to adjust the thickness on one of the cabonfiber washers in order for the eared metal washer to make full contact in order to get full drag range. Here are a couple pics. I was on the Voyager out of Point Pleasant NJ. We caught over 50 yft and some bigeyes. Unfortunately, I only boated one.
Quote from: newport on September 10, 2016, 07:13:26 PM
...Unfortunately, I only boated one.
ONE is greater than ZERO - mission accomplished. And, at the very least, you saw the Big Eye before it spit the hook -- just think of it as "catch-n-release."
Oh I enjoyed the trip. Besides false albacore, this is my first tuna catch, ever, so I was very happy either way.
Unfortunately, Daiwa never produced my three "Dream Reels" in the Sealine H Series . . . 650H, 950H, 1200H . . . THOSE would have been INCREDIBLE !
Tight Lines !
A few spec sheets . . . Some may already be posted.
I'm gearing up a 600H for my grandsons this April.
I figure they could handle this a lot better than a 14/0.
Bryan's Drag kit, SS Sleeve from Tom and a 5/0 grip on the original arm.
Spooled with 50lb mono.
As long as there isn't a cut off. I'm sure this reel is up to the task.
I usually fish 100lb mono minimum, but there isn't enough capacity.
I just went through my 350H. These reels are basically pre-tanked. Just need bigger grip as you did.
Guys, looking for advice... My experience with fishing for tuna is very limited (almost non-existent), and I have a Sealine 450H. Is that reel theoretically capable of handling a 100 lb tuna? Or should I go bigger before I get on a boat?
I have a 113H Senator YTS, and am wondering if the 450H is a good backup reel for the Penn, or vice-versa ;D Or maybe I would need to tank the 113H with drag inserts to be tuna-ready ???
/Joe
P.S. From Alan's information below, I'm now thinking that line capacity of a YTS might be an issue for tuna fishing, especially fishing monofilament line. Would it be appropriate to use 65lb braid with a top-shot for fishing 100lb tuna?
Found this on-target summary from the Boss, below. Stories of fishing experience welcome!
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8.0)
Quote from: alantani on December 07, 2008, 04:17:56 PM
now, for a few comments...... the sealine 450H is a real diamond in the rough. let's compare daiwa sealine 450h to the 4/0 penn 113hlw. the spool size of the daiwa sealine 450h on the right hand side is about the same size as the wide spool 4/0 penn senator 113hlw.
(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN4283.JPG)
the drag range is also about the same. with greased carbon fiber drag washers, the functional drag range for both reels is 10-20#'s with an absolute maximum drag of about 25#'s. because of the risk of damage to the main gears, i would recommend keeping the drag below 20#'s. once you change out the drags, the performance of the two reels is identical. the main advantage of the daiwa sealine 450h is the aluminum frame. a similar upgrade for the penn is $80 for the frame alone. the daiwa sealine 450h is available for $120, the penn 113hlw is available for $130. with a $10 drag washer upgrade, you can have an all aluminum "4/0 wide" daiwa that will perform as well as a penn. honestly, the performance of the two reels will be identical, but because of the all aluminum frame, i will vote for the daiwa sealine 450h to edge out the penn 113hlw as the best in its class.
Well, there are tuna and then there are tuna....what kind are you after? 20 lb blackfin, 50lb yellowfin and 500lb Bluefin are all different equations (Joe is on East Coast, where weights are sort of reversed with YFT and BFT vs. Left Coast fishing.
Excepting maybe SS sleeve, a 450H is probably close to a tanked Senator if you put in carbontex: already has aluminum frame and plates. I would def upgrade handle or at least grip, and I put Strikemaster clamps on all my offshore reels vs. wimpy stamped stock clamps. That said, looking at Dave's chart above, you should be able to get a solid 300 yds 65 braid on the reel and maybe 150 yds 60 topshot, give or take, and should put you in the reel's sweet spot for drag 20-25lbs. This will put you in decent shape on most East Coast YFT. This is mathematical, I haven't taken one tuna fishing, but certainly would apply this exact setup and lock down the drag for snatching grouper out of a rock....
Well Joe, you posted while I was typing, and it appears my "math" is validated exactly by the Boss....that's all I'd need...I think he has the handle and blade for them. If you haven't used his handles, they are beasts and about an inch longer in blade and grip for real cranking power. I put them on my Internationals.
Thanks, John. Sounds like there is an SS sleeve available for that reel, always a plus. I guess the 450H is a keeper, then, something I can use. Maybe it could be a good backup for deep dropping too. Those Kolekar handles are the bomb!
My go-to tuna is the Starkist yellowfin with olive oil and roasted garlic ;) Though I caught a couple yellowfin, blackfin, and longfin as a kid, I'll be expanding my horizons when I book my first overnight party boat tuna trip. Since pride does not allow me to rent a rod, having the reel, then the rod, puts me closer to booking the trip. Hey, i I'm going to hang with the AT guys, I'd better be ready to move up in weight class. ;)
You said, "snatching grouper out of a rock." Do you catch grouper in the Carolinas?
I've started a small collection of Sears (Daiwa) reels that were too good to pass up. Saw this posted on a drag upgrade for the 900H by... guess who? https://youtu.be/Y2BhAKcvsF0?t=133 (https://youtu.be/Y2BhAKcvsF0?t=133)
Quote from: Porthos on October 06, 2015, 12:55:55 AMOH, and the 300H, 350H, 400H, 450H, and 600H came in SILVER frames too.
The SILVER framed reels are the EARLY model . . . Later they switched to BLACK.
Tight Lines !
My first trolling reel was a Daiwa 300H back in 1993 or 1994. Many 600H, 450H, 400H and 350H have passed through my hands since. Although these are very well built reels, I have always found their max drags to be overstated (unless, maybe, you use a wrench or pipe to tighten the star drag!)
I am a Penn guy, anyhow - no Daiwa star drags for me.
Just my .02!
Quote from: ijlal on July 13, 2018, 07:00:48 PM
My first trolling reel was a Daiwa 300H back in 1993 or 1994. Many 600H, 450H, 400H and 350H have passed through my hands since. Although these are very well built reels, I have always found their max drags to be overstated (unless, maybe, you use a wrench or pipe to tighten the star drag!)
Hi Ijlal, I'm not nearly as experienced as you, but have seen very similar comments about Daiwa drags posted here. Luckily there is an Ultimate Upgrades (a.k.a. Bryan Young) 5-stack drag kit to fit several of the Sealine models. Cheers, /Joe
Quote from: ijlal on July 13, 2018, 07:00:48 PM
My first trolling reel was a Daiwa 300H back in 1993 or 1994. Many 600H, 450H, 400H and 350H have passed through my hands since. Although these are very well built reels, I have always found their max drags to be overstated (unless, maybe, you use a wrench or pipe to tighten the star drag!)
I am a Penn guy, anyhow - no Daiwa star drags for me.
Just my .02!
Running with the original Daiwa factory washers is confining one to the "box" of a dated technology.
HT100's, Carbontex, Delrin, Cal's, aftermarket washers, SS gear sleeves, and handle upgrades (just like for the Penn's) will yield drags/performance that transcends the "box."
This is stated from first hand experience with enhancements done to fish the following:
- 30H and SMF170 as 40lb reels;
- 50H as a 50lb reel;
- 300H and 350H as 60lb reels;
- 400H as an 80lb reel; and
- 600H as a 100lb reel
....using the 1/3 rule, it's an additional line class UP if using 1/4 rule. No pipe or wrench tightening required.
Of course, all of the above was possible with knowledge gained from enhancing my Penn Monofil 27 to a 40lb capable reel and my Mag Power 970 to a 50lb capable reel.
The Daiwa's required significantly less $$$$ to get them to their current levels than what it would have costed with comparable Penns for a long range lineup of 8 reels (20lb, 25lb, 30lb, 40lb, 50lb, 60lb, 80lb, and 100lb).
(http://alantani.com/gallery/24/9140_13_07_18_9_15_16.jpeg)
Quote from: Decker on July 13, 2018, 07:23:49 PM
Hi Ijlal, I'm not nearly as experienced as you, but have seen very similar comments about Daiwa drags posted here. Luckily there is an Ultimate Upgrades (a.k.a. Bryan Young) 5-stack drag kit to fit several of the Sealine models. Cheers, /Joe
Hi Joe,
I found a Penn 6-114HSP drag washers set and upgraded a friend's 600H. Unfortunately, I could not get the second eared washer into the grooves, so had to settle for a 3-washer stack. To cover for the thinner Penn washers, I doubled up the carbontex washers. This is how I configured the drag stack:
Main gear, Penn HT100 drag washer x 2, Penn Keyed washer, Penn HT100 drag washer x 2, eared washer, Penn HT100 drag washer x 1, Daiwa 600H's stock keyed washer (thickest one,) and then the stock spring washers and all.
I'm getting a max drag of just above 18#, which is practically enough for now, as my friend would be using 50# topshot with a 65# braid backing. At least he has smooth drag now. Maybe, I'll get that drag set from Bryan when I can, and upgrade the reel to a 5-drag washer stack for more drag.
Cheers,
Ijlal
That upgrade from Bryan is the best upgrade you can do to a 600 or 900H, However, a stainless sleeve should be added with that or you will round off the gear sleeve pretty quick.
Quote from: Decker on April 17, 2018, 04:52:23 PM
Thanks, John. Sounds like there is an SS sleeve available for that reel, always a plus. I guess the 450H is a keeper, then, something I can use. Maybe it could be a good backup for deep dropping too. Those Kolekar handles are the bomb!
My go-to tuna is the Starkist yellowfin with olive oil and roasted garlic ;) Though I caught a couple yellowfin, blackfin, and longfin as a kid, I'll be expanding my horizons when I book my first overnight party boat tuna trip. Since pride does not allow me to rent a rod, having the reel, then the rod, puts me closer to booking the trip. Hey, i I'm going to hang with the AT guys, I'd better be ready to move up in weight class. ;)
You said, "snatching grouper out of a rock." Do you catch grouper in the Carolinas?
Joe, just saw this. Yes, grouper is the bottom fish of choice since Reds are closed.
Nice, John.
Porthos, good to hear from you.
Hello friends, I just logged on for the first time. I am wondering if anyone knows the max drag on a Sealine 600H. The specs posted here omit the max drag number on the 600H. I see the 400H at 22lbs, the 900H at 33lbs. Seems like it should be about 27lbs. Anyone know for sure? Also, how tight can I go on the star without damaging the reel? I need a winch. I know it sounds extreme but it is a tug of war with large grouper that regularly break off 80-100lb line. If you give up any line, they will rock you up. The trip I'm going on had one stop where they had about 20 break offs and only landed 1 fish before moving to another spot. I ordered a long power handle and plan to fill the spool less than half full to gain some cranking power/extra drag. Thanks for your help
Quote from: kipakoo on November 03, 2018, 02:35:44 AM
Hello friends, I just logged on for the first time. I am wondering if anyone knows the max drag on a Sealine 600H. The specs posted here omit the max drag number on the 600H. I see the 400H at 22lbs, the 900H at 33lbs. Seems like it should be about 27lbs. Anyone know for sure?
2 of the 3 charts I posted on page 5 of this thread indicate that 22 lbs. is the maximum drag on a "factory" 600H.
With that said, let me say that, on this forum, many things become possible . . . Take a look at this thread.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=4783.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=4783.0)Tight Lines !
The 600H is a fine reel, but unless you do some upgrades, you are just going to round the brass sleeve off buttoning it down.
A stainless sleeve from Cortez Conversion's and Bryan's Drag upgrade should bring it up to snuff.
Scored (i think) on a vintage daiwa sealine no. 25. so im currently in southeast asia and came across a super great condition reel with 3 levers. but for about $15 usd, i had to have it. but i cant seem to find any data on this reel. it seems the level wind has stopped working. im hoping i can fix it when i return to the states and open it up.
where would someone get parts for such reels?
Quote from: B0b on September 11, 2019, 08:05:53 AM
Scored (i think) on a vintage daiwa sealine no. 25. so im currently in southeast asia and came across a super great condition reel with 3 levers. but for about $15 usd, i had to have it. but i cant seem to find any data on this reel. it seems the level wind has stopped working. im hoping i can fix it when i return to the states and open it up.
where would someone get parts for such reels?
Looks like a wider model of the Daiwa 24 here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/113700389232
With only the "Daiwa 24" eBay listing found via Google, and even it is originating from Japan, it appears at this juncture that the reel may not have been sold in the USA. If so, Daiwa USA, in their inventory system, may not even officially have parts for it. Still, wouldn't hurt to try with a phone call. Unofficially, have seen parts shared between multiple Daiwa Sealine models; the 30H/SH to SMF175's and the 50H to 300/350H sharings are ones I've seen first hand.
Unless someone comes forth with definitive data, the first inclination would be to get measurements from the Daiwa 27H and 47H level winds and see if any of their parts are compatible; going this route because these two reels are relatively more available via eBay.
Post pics as well as measurements of the faulty part in the level wind system once you have the reel apart. Probably better to start a new thread specifically if you do.
Those reels strongly resemble Penn SQUIDDER reels, but with level-winds.
Tight Lines !
Dave F.
Hi everyone, I have just spoken to Diawa parts Australia, I was after, schematics for a Diawa sea line 900, the bloke said the schematics are know longer available, this 900 reel I have, there is nothing on the face plate apart from-on & off, the tail plate has sea line 900, with know H behind it, under the sea line 900, it has Daiwa Sieko inc., I am after some parts so I also need a parts list with the schematic, the bloke told me he dout there is any part available for this reel, but if I can get these details, just maybe someone will have part. cheers Don.
Hi Don,
I can't help. Can you pop up a photo? It may help someone with the right schematics chime in. It sounds like the original Sealine, with the black or gold side plates, and the straight cut gears so you can swap the post the dog rides on it and use it as left hand or right hand wind.
Cheers,
Andrew
Thanks Andrew, this model has a white bone handle, black plates, with the silver writing on the tail plate Sea Line 900, I could possibly take some photos & get Mike or Wayne to place them on here, I brought the reel on Gumtree Australia, for AU $45:00 including postage to WA, the tail plate has been damaged, it needs the spring loaded ratchet parts, the tail plate will need building up a bit, near the ratchet, but I think I can manage that, I would not say the gears are cut totally straight, & possibly need replacing bit I could still fish with the present gearing, but with summer coming on here, it would be nice to have the ratchet working, for trawling. cheers Don,