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Title: How many metal washers in 113HSP drag stack?
Post by: FatTuna on November 17, 2014, 07:17:46 PM
How many metal washers should be in the drag stack for a 113HSP? I just bought a few new senators from different sellers online and they all have seven metal washers inside. Two eared, four flat, and one curved one. Is that correct? It's confusing because on MysticParts.com they list only six in the schematic.


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Title: Re: How many metal washers in 113HSP drag stack?
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2014, 07:30:23 PM
Depending on who you buy them from, but I have seen as little as 2 eared and 3 keyed metal washers.  I have see as many as 2 eared and 4 keyed metals washers plus a belleville spring washer.  The extra keyed washers are use to fill up the drag stack if needed.


Title: Re: How many metal washers in 113HSP drag stack?
Post by: FatTuna on November 17, 2014, 08:06:11 PM
Thanks for the advice Bryan.

So would it be okay to use it with or without the extra keyed washer? The star on this one feels pretty tight. It feels better to me with one less washer but I wasn't sure.


Title: Re: How many metal washers in 113HSP drag stack?
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2014, 09:53:39 PM
As long as your drag stack consists of keyed eared keyed eared keyed then belleville. you will be fine.  You can add extra keyed washers between the last keyed and bellevilled washer if you need to tighten up your drag stack.


Title: Re: How many metal washers in 113HSP drag stack?
Post by: crackerman on November 18, 2014, 06:56:09 AM
Use whatever you need to that gives you almost free spool with star backed off , and without drag star bottoming out on side plate before belleville is completely compressed and achieve max drag.


Title: Re: How many metal washers in 113HSP drag stack?
Post by: FatTuna on November 18, 2014, 10:34:14 AM
Thanks guys.

I thought about it and I think that the HSP model has the extra keyed washer because the spool is so heavy, especially when it is filled with wire. I tested it with a full spool of wire; without the extra keyed washer the gear sleeve and handle move a little bit. Seeing as I won't be casting this reel, the extra washer seems to give it better support. In my regular 113h the extra washer just takes away from the free spool. I think that I will just leave it in there.


Title: Re: How many metal washers in 113HSP drag stack?
Post by: mizmo67 on August 09, 2018, 10:35:12 AM
I'll add notes here for future readers, also.

Because the plates changed over time, sometimes an older reel needs an extra metal washer. That's why Penn started including an extra one in the metal set.