Here it is. We just made couple set samples of the Senator 113H. They are shipping out to Sal for testing.
Please note that this part is direct replacement part. A person has to do is removing the existing dog and dog's spring from the side plate.
If an alternate dog is needed, Lee (Keta) will be the man selling it when this product is ready.
Please let me know if anyone has any questions.
Here is a new video on 08/21/2015:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkZSUL1tg_o
They look awesome! I'm excited!
That's beautiful Alan.
That looks phenomenal!
I do have a question. When will it be available? Hurry up and test em Sal!!!!
Yeah Baby! Cant wait to hear Sals results.
Looks nice, Alan
Thanks
Dom
Quote from: crackerman on December 17, 2014, 10:48:12 PM
That looks phenomenal!
I do have a question. When will it be available? Hurry up and test em Sal!!!!
If everything checks out ok, then it will take about 3 to 4 months for mass production. The mass production will be most likely stainless steel stamping process instead of machine cutting. It will take few weeks to make the mold for the bridge plate and each dogs. We will most likely make the SS heat treated jack and yoke for the 113H.
Thanks,
--Alan
Good job Alan. I sure will need some..!
Alan,
Other than heat treating, how will the yokes differ from the ss yokes that already exist? Reason I ask is that I have about 12 ss yokes for the 113h, and I'm hoping they'll work without a problem on the new ss bridge your producing. Hey Alan, bet ya never thought you would be a bridge builder. ;)
Thanks
Dom
Quote from: broadway on December 18, 2014, 01:45:41 AM
Alan,
Other than heat treating, how will the yokes differ from the ss yokes that already exist? Reason I ask is that I have about 12 ss yokes for the 113h, and I'm hoping they'll work without a problem on the new ss bridge your producing. Hey Alan, bet ya never thought you would be a bridge builder. ;)
Thanks
Dom
Dom,
I don't think it will have any problem with the other ss yokes you have. I just know that Sal just likes a lot of those heat treated SS yoke and jack.
BTW, Dom, I have a bridge to sell you..... ;)
Thanks,
--Alan
Alan,
I'll buy a bridge from you any day. ;D
Put me down for 4 of those when they become available.....send them to Dom so he can add a stainless sleeve then pass them on to me. Thanks Dom ;D
Great work as always. Looking to see what sal comes up with!
NICE....again!
Priapism!
You know Mark, I'm fluent in Italian, but some English words stump me at times, I had to look that one up.
I like it! ;D, maybe the boss will be ok with it.... ;D
Lol!! Sal, I only speak English and had to look that up! Not a word that I imagine gets used a lot!
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 18, 2014, 04:28:57 AM
You know Mark, I'm fluent in Italian, but some English words stump me at times, I had to look that one up.
I like it! ;D, maybe the boss will be ok with it.... ;D
What's the problem? It's a legitimate medical condition, referred to in Cialis TV commercials... but not by name, they just describe the symptom! You know, seek immediate medical attention for a... Well, you know the rest. Alan's double dog stainless bridge can have that effect and you don't need a prescription!
As a matter of fact, Alan... I'm buying 4 bridges from you (to start). ;)
Ted, you only catch small fish... you don't need a ss sleeve... Case and point, your fish fit in 10 oz jars. ;D
Dom
Remember I'm on the waiting list for three of these.
They look great.
Thanks again for doing this,
Mark
Quote from: MarkT on December 18, 2014, 04:46:45 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 18, 2014, 04:28:57 AM
You know Mark, I'm fluent in Italian, but some English words stump me at times, I had to look that one up.
I like it! ;D, maybe the boss will be ok with it.... ;D
What's the problem? It's a legitimate medical condition, referred to in Cialis TV commercials... but not by name, they just describe the symptom! You know, seek immediate medical attention for a... Well, you know the rest. Alan's double dog stainless bridge can have that effect and you don't need a prescription!
Look up "Priapus" on Wikipedia. It's... <gulp>... highly informative. :-X
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A~
(Oh, BTW, I'll buy one of the double-dog bridges, too.) :)
:D
Good to see we are all learning the uses of a good rod. ::) Dominick
Quote from: broadway on December 18, 2014, 05:29:52 AM
As a matter of fact, Alan... I'm buying 4 bridges from you (to start). ;)
Ted, you only catch small fish... you don't need a ss sleeve... Case and point, your fish fit in 10 oz jars. ;D
Dom
Good call Dom, I was hoping you weren't going to pick up on that.
I do have 4- 113H reels that would love an upgrade during this offseason.
Can't wait! So around April I hope.
I received the custom bridge about three hours ago and got right on it, unfortunately in spite of looking awesome, it will need a little fine tuning
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/013-16.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/013-16.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/014-13.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/014-13.jpg.html)
I installed the sleeve and the dogs were clicking nicely
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/017-10.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/017-10.jpg.html)
plenty of room with the gear and dogs
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/018-11.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/018-11.jpg.html)
and here is the little issue, the dog on the right will need to stay open or the bridge won't drop in, it's hitting on the plate.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/024-5.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/024-5.jpg.html)
I did a little grinding on the plate to give Alan C. an idea of what they need to deal with
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/039-1.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/039-1.jpg.html)
it is working nicely now
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/037-1.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/037-1.jpg.html)
I hope you guys appreciate this, I ruined one of my plate before this one ::).
At the moment it is still a big improvement from what we had, I have no doubts that Alan C. will get this right for us.
If he doesn't, I have one that works ;D
Sal
Wow that plate looks awesome installed! From the area you dremeled out to make it fit, looks like it would fit in the plates that switch from left to right hand. The CAD illustrations that were posted before showed it on a plate the could switch from right to left. I bet that's what Alan used for the R&D of this bridge. So my guess is if you tried it in that kind of plate it would be a direct drop in.
Jason, good eye buddy ;). I tried these on three different plates, easy access and two others, but none have the left to right option. This makes perfect sense.
Alan did say they tested it, I told him it couldn't be, but now I see why.
I do not have one of those plates, I give a lot of my stuff away, but from looking at my grinding of the plate, this bridge will definitely work on those.
This doesn't really help us, because the majority of the plates are as the one I'm showing.
I do not have any problems grinding the plate, but some might :-\.
I think most of the more modern plates have it but still your right doesn't help if it doesn't fit all the plates. I know most members won't have have an issue with grinding the plate but I don't think it can be mass produced if alterations are needed. See what Alan has to say.
Either way this plate will fit my magnum as is, so I'll take It ;) ;D
Quote from: fIsHsTiiCkS on December 23, 2014, 03:02:51 AM
See what Alan has to say.
Would you like to see how many emails go back and forth when a new custom part is in the works? You won't have enough time to read them this evening ;D.
I'm sure they'll get it right, this was their first shot at it and it might not be their last. This is normal. ;)
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 23, 2014, 04:32:32 AM
Quote from: fIsHsTiiCkS on December 23, 2014, 03:02:51 AM
See what Alan has to say.
Would you like to see how many emails go back and forth when a new custom part is in the works? You won't have enough time to read them this evening ;D.
I'm sure they'll get it right, this was their first shot at it and it might not be their last. This is normal. ;)
For that I have now doubt how much work it is. Just the thought of the emails make my head hurt! ;) I appreciate all the work you guys do and know Alan will take care of this!
Thanks for testing this for us, Sal. Don't give up on this one, Alan... it's a winner when ya get it right! ;)
Looks cool as a cucumber 8)
Thanks for putting in the time... When Alan C. jumped on the scene I was going through it with a bunch of companies for about 9 months trying to have gears produced... I feel your pain!
Dom
Any update on These?
Quote from: fIsHsTiiCkS on February 07, 2015, 02:07:27 PM
Any update on These?
There is no update yet since most of the factories are getting ready for Chinese New Year in Taiwan (long holiday).
Thanks,
--Alan
I'm in for 4 and I don't mind grinding the plate at all.
QuoteWould you like to see how many emails go back and forth when a new custom part is in the works? You won't have enough time to read them this evening Grin.
I'm sure they'll get it right, this was their first shot at it and it might not be their last. This is normal. Wink
Sal,
I believe the amount of communication must be massive. A first is always tons of trail and error and then the final light bulb comes on and everyone sits around wondering why they did not think of that in the first place.
Anyways, this bridge looks great. I do not feel the problem you ran into is a problem, as many modern head plates are molded with the consideration of right or left hand drive position. Here is the internal of the Accurate Head plate. it looks to me like the new double dog bridge will be a bolt in with this plate. I can't wait to try it.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Accurate%20Reels/Accurate113Hheadplateinternalblank0011024x768_zps4f33abc8.jpg)
Do you agree?
Looks like I'm going to have to rewrite my budget. Good thing it was only a 'working budget'.
Quote from: Penn Chronology on February 11, 2015, 06:56:38 PM
QuoteWould you like to see how many emails go back and forth when a new custom part is in the works? You won't have enough time to read them this evening Grin.
I'm sure they'll get it right, this was their first shot at it and it might not be their last. This is normal. Wink
Sal,
I believe the amount of communication must be massive. A first is always tons of trail and error and then the final light bulb comes on and everyone sits around wondering why they did not think of that in the first place.
Anyways, this bridge looks great. I do not feel the problem you ran into is a problem, as many modern head plates are molded with the consideration of right or left hand drive position. Here is the internal of the Accurate Head plate. it looks to me like the new double dog bridge will be a bolt in with this plate. I can't wait to try it.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Accurate%20Reels/Accurate113Hheadplateinternalblank0011024x768_zps4f33abc8.jpg)
Do you agree?
You are correct Mike, you should have no issues setting the new custom bridge in. With that said, they are trying to minimize problems for the future by trying to make one that will fit both style plates without modifications.
QuoteYou are correct Mike, you should have no issues setting the new custom bridge in. With that said, they are trying to minimize problems for the future by trying to make one that will fit both style plates without modifications.
Sal,
Thanks for the quick response. I think that fitting in a double dog on a right hand drive plate only will be a tall order. I do not see how that could be be done, but, I am not an engineer, so I will be watching.
I am in for one double dog bridge as soon as they become available.
They do already fit with minimal grinding, but as I mentioned earlier, they want a drop in unit.
QuoteThey do already fit with minimal grinding, but as I mentioned earlier, they want a drop in unit.
OK, I understand. I will be waiting on line with everyone else. :)
I just got this video this morning. We re-designed the right hand dog. It might look kind of skinny, but it will hold just fine. This one will fit both versions (old and new) of 113H sideplate.
The next step, I am going to ask my resource to send one sample to me and to have Sal checking it out.
In the meanwhile, if there is any question, please post it here and I will reply it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkZSUL1tg_o
Alan C.,
After seeing your video please put me in for 2 sets, thanks much!
BTW is there a pin on the dog for the spring?
Quote from: MeL B on August 21, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
Alan C.,
After seeing your video please put me in for 2 sets, thanks much!
BTW is there a pin on the dog for the spring?
Hey,
Yes, we might have to make that dog pin little bit longer.
Thanks,
--Alan C
Sweet...! I'll definitely buy at least one, probably more.
Love the little one giggling in the background! ;)
~A~
My Accurate 113H is waiting for one of these. Thanks for the effort.
I cant wait.
Quote from: Black Pearl on August 21, 2015, 11:40:19 AM
I just got this video this morning. We re-designed the right hand dog. It might look kind of skinny, but it will hold just fine. This one will fit both versions (old and new) of 113H sideplate.
The next step, I am going to ask my resource to send one sample to me and to have Sal checking it out.
In the meanwhile, if there is any question, please post it here and I will reply it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkZSUL1tg_o
Baja Especial needs something like this.
Great job
Jigmaster magnum needs it too!
Looking good Alan! Can't wait.
When are we looking at for delivery, approximately?
Thanks
Dom
Any update on these Alan?
Dave.
??? ;D
Quote from: Taily on November 23, 2015, 12:48:40 PM
Any update on these Alan?
Dave.
Yes, we might have to do 2 models of this dual dog bridge. One is for the original PENN 113H sideplate, and the other on is for the 113H with Accurate sideplate.
Currently, I believe that we will use machine cutting method for this product. The reason of it because I do not want to stamp 1000 pieces of this product. I am going have 75 pieces for the original PENN 113H sideplate, and 40 pieces for the 113H with Accurate sideplate.
I am hoping I will have the product for the original PENN 113H sideplate by the end of next month. Since it is machine cutting, and the cost is going up a bit. This dual dog bridge will be $39.99.
Alan, Couldn't the Accurate plates just be machined out by us to fit the 113H bridge? I know it's not as easy as routing out a graphite plate, but couldn't it be done? RUDY
Alan, I would like to get on the list for 2 sets for standard 113h side plates.
Thanks, .. lou
Alan, I will want one for an Accurate plate, price is fine. Hoping for a exact no mod fit. I really do not want to cut the Plate.
Will the bridge you make for the Accurate also work in a stock plate?
Quote from: Penn Chronology on November 24, 2015, 02:37:42 AM
Alan, I will want one for an Accurate plate, price is fine. Hoping for a exact no mod fit. I really do not want to cut the Plate.
Will the bridge you make for the Accurate also work in a stock plate?
I think that there is room to make it both work on both plates.
This is so cool! I wonder if it would fit the US Senators.
it is for the U.S. 4/0 not sure about the China 4/0?
This is a real winner and also want one for my Accurate side plated 113H.
Put me on the list for the standard US plate version.
I think I requested one before but to make sure I want one of the penn models
I will need one to test in my JVARIANCE headplate as well.
I would like to be on the list for a Penn side plate model.
Quote from: broschro on November 24, 2015, 01:29:04 PM
it is for the U.S. 4/0 not sure about the China 4/0?
ah, I talking specifically about the brand new one. That's literally called the U.S. Senator, it's already all aluminum and ss.
Alan,
I want at least two for the 113H.
Dave Babcock
Quote from: Mudman on November 25, 2015, 03:41:03 AM
Quote from: broschro on November 24, 2015, 01:29:04 PM
it is for the U.S. 4/0 not sure about the China 4/0?
ah, I talking specifically about the brand new one. That's literally called the U.S. Senator, it's already all aluminum and ss.
The US Senator is an entirely different reel. The US Senator is designed like the Baha. To be used in the 113H2 from China, the handle assembly & screw will have to be replaced with the 113H type.
Ah thank you Rowdy
Quote from: Tightlines666 on November 24, 2015, 08:44:28 PM
I will need one to test in my JVARIANCE headplate as well.
Amen! I have two of 'em. :)
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A~
It'll fit a ProGear 545?
Quote from: MarkT on November 29, 2015, 05:09:40 PM
It'll fit a ProGear 545?
I don't have a 545 ProGear, but it the stock 113H bridge fits, so will the custom bridge.
Same goes with the Jvariance, that plate is milled after the Accurate.
if the custom bridge works on the Accurate, it will also work on the JVariance.
put me on the list for a 113H and a 114H if you get them both done.
Hi Alan, I signed up for 2 of the 113H stainless double dog plates when the project started, but if the one piece frame project goes, I'll need three.
Thanks
Charlie
Alan, I originally got on the list for 4 DD bridge for 113H, and now I see you are making 2 different versions ?? If that's is the case, the 4 I would want would all be for Tom H. style plates.
Thanks ,Ted
It has been awhile and not sure I am on the list. I would like one for a 113H and one for a 114H for Penn side plates when available. Thanks. Ken
None are being produced for the 114H. Maybe in the future???
To place your order, please go to this post http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=16773.0
Sal I wanted to volunteer my accurate 113H for testing, should you feel so inclined.
Mark
Quote from: anglingarchitect on February 07, 2016, 06:51:50 PM
Sal I wanted to volunteer my accurate 113H for testing, should you feel so inclined.
Mark
Hi Mark,
Sal already tested this bridge with the Accurate side plate.
Thank you..
--Alan
Mark, Alan posted some pics yesterday of the reel tested. I just wanted you to know that I used my own reel, even though I know you wouldn't mind if I did decide to use yours.
Here is your reel waiting for some organ transplant ;D
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160207_140314.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160207_140314.jpg.html)
Some of my tests are very hard on reels, I would never use anyone else .
Sal
Organ transplant I like that. Franken reel, aka Bionic Tankete.