There have been one off odd factory coloured Penn reels and quite a few production run colours of specific models mentioned in the Penn catalogs . It would be great to see as many as possible in one location . I do have some reels and have saved some photos only of reels that have passed by .
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/e06492be-85cf-4cec-b930-b4023e59563a.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/e06492be-85cf-4cec-b930-b4023e59563a.jpg.html)
Aftermarket handle with drag . Photo only.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/Greenplated9amp350fromLangsExHenzeestatereelsNOS.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/Greenplated9amp350fromLangsExHenzeestatereelsNOS.jpg.html)
A couple of Green plated reels from Martha Henze/Egly Estate auction . The reel on the left is a production run model Level wind . The reel on the right is a #350 , one from a very small group made in the same colour green as the production green used on the #9 , #109 and #209.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/35034979.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/35034979.jpg.html)
The reel in the middle is a one off #349 in a green colour not seen before that the Penn employees presented to Martha
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A Salesman's sample with a mix of colours . Appears to be an #85 model. Photo only.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/4be63ce6-888e-4ed9-b597-41beb6f026b5.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/4be63ce6-888e-4ed9-b597-41beb6f026b5.jpg.html)
Production run magenta/ pink-plum coloured #27
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/109White.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/109White.jpg.html)
Photo only. All white #109F (F-freshwater stand)
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Photo only . A bright red #26
This is beautiful, simply amazing....
Sal
QuoteThere have been one off odd factory coloured Penn reels and quite a few production run colours of specific models mentioned in the Penn catalogs . It would be great to see as many as possible in one location . I do have some reels and have saved some photos only of reels that have passed by .
This is an amazing set of reels. The color variations were a very popular thing to do by many different brands during the mid 1950's. The whole process started in the 1930's with the special requested colors by the reel rental businesses, by the 1950's many of the odd colors were tried in regular production. Penn introduced the green, gray and plum colors with their monofil reels that were introduced to coincide with the introduction of mono light lines.
Here are a couple of salesman samples of the Penn 85,
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Nice. I think penn was a little ahead of their time on the bright colors......especially that multi colored reel with aftermarket drag/crank.....A few years later and penn likely coulda sold millions during the psychedelic 60's...very cool stuff !!!
beautiful reels! that 349 is awesome. I have the more common monofils in diff colors.
That green Monofils is amazing!!! This site is seriousy turning into a penn reel site!
It always has been Jason! ;)
The reels all look great, but that 349 is amazing!!!, I must have missed it earlier....beautiful!
QuoteThe reels all look great, but that 349 is amazing!!!, I must have missed it earlier....beautiful!
Sal, that 349 is a One Off, as far as I know the only one to ever exist. I am sure someone will prove me wrong on that someday. This particular reel was released from the Penn vaults for the 2003 Penn Estate auction after Martha Henze passed away. The green 349 was a presentation reel to Martha Henze from the workers. There are no more.
Amazing stuff Mike.
Simply Stunning! :P
The only thing I can contribute here. Looks like a need one of the screws that holds the crank screw in place.
In person, the green is a little darker. The flash kinda washed out the color a little.
A photographer I am not.
Well, this post absolutely needs this reel. I know it is posted in other threads but it belongs here also.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/IMG_2373_zps787308c3.jpg)
Not only a very special edition but also absolutely mint.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/IMG_2374_zps469f95fd.jpg)
It does not get much better than this!!!
Thanks Dom..................!
I agree Michael, that reel should be on every thread. It never gets old looking at it.... and my wife says it's Ok to look..... but don't touch !! lol
Wow, somehow I missed this topic. Thanks for opening my eyes to what's out there. I'm with Sal, that 349 is the cats pajamas!
Geez, I sure wish I was around for that auction. Fortunately for my bank account that I wasn't. ;)
Beautiful reels guys,
Dom
PS- Thanks for posting Big Red, she's in good company now.
Wow!!! I love the 349. I've been watching colored Monofils but the prices are higher than I want to part with for a dust collector.
Beautiful examples. Thanks for sharing.
As far as marbling goes on the side plates, was the addition of the second pigment done by hand? It seems the exact pattern is never consistent. I do not own any, but I've seen some varying reels with the brown/maroon and black marbling that is quite interesting.
Dan,
I believe that marbling effect of brown and black and some others with red,green yellow and black are just whatever happens when the pellets of colours are mixed , melt together and forced into the moulds. The solid individual coloured plates are the only ones that they had 100% total control on the outcome.
Ray
All beautiful --
Really love that 349 in teal green.
Best,
Fred
I guess in terms of popularity, the Green 349 wins.
But there are other odd Penn colors that are kind of cool and very rare. I will take two out of my collection for viewing today. My old 1939 Penn Sea Gate, Model 126, 300 yard special order reel. This is the only one I have ever seen, so I had to keep it.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/DSC00342%20640%20x%20480_zpst91tp77u.jpg)
When I got it, it looked like a reel recovered from the Titanic but it was all there, I know it cleaned up rough but the historical significance can not be over stated in terms of Penn;
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/DSC00343%20640%20x%20480_zpsxlf0emyq.jpg)
Even the handle knob was different. The tail plate was broken in half and feel apart as soon as I removed it from the reel. I epoxied it and reused it. It is an irreplaceable part.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/DSC00345%20640%20x%20480_zps1hpvzx5a.jpg)
This reel came from California in the days when reel rental stores ordered reels in different colors to easily identify them for end of day collection. Most of these reel were fished to extinction but from time to time one shows up. The key is for the right person to find it and become its custodian.
And then there is always the fun Penn 85 in its limitless variations:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/1950sPennSeaBoy85--redplateswithwhitespoolandhandle011_zps3293f180.jpg)
Mike, I always love seeing that 85 with that super rare white spool.
That sea gate is definitely a rare bird. Mustard colored 300 yd 126 sea gate... you have a better chance on being eaten by a shark in your bath tub than you do finding another one of those.
Sweet stuff,
Dom
QuoteMike, I always love seeing that 85 with that super rare white spool.
That sea gate is definitely a rare bird. Mustard colored 300 yd 126 sea gate... you have a better chance on being eaten by a shark in your bath tub than you do finding another one of those.
Sweet stuff,
The Penn 85 with red plates is a tough find but the white spool is not as Rare as you would think. They are not easy to find but quite a few Penn 80's were made with the white spool.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/DSC04739_zpsgmz8svtk.jpg)
A very simple reel from the 1940's, here is where the white spool is mostly used. It is not an easy find and many times they get so dirty that is hard to see the white color, especially if it is full of old dirty linen line. The spool from the Penn 80 is interchangeable with the Penn 85.
You are correct about the Sea Gate, it is super rare.
Maybe I've passed it by but I've been pretty diligent on ebay in the past few years and have seen one yet. :-\
They're certainly a nice addition to the collection.
Thanks for sharing,
Dom
They're all nice, but that 85 is gorgeous. Dom,that 85 would look sharp next to big red, make him an offer he can't refuse ;D
last year i picked up a penn 27 lipstick color, at first i was baffled why it didn't crank nice, come to find out quickly it was left handed, figured that was rare
Quotelast year i picked up a penn 27 lipstick color, at first i was baffled why it didn't crank nice, come to find out quickly it was left handed, figured that was rare
"Rare" is a funny word. I see it used all over EBay very loosely. Seems like every time someone wants to sell something, they call it "Rare".
I am very sensitive to that word. "Rare" means the item is extremely hard to find and it is a significant enough item to generate much more demand than the existing quantities can ever supply.
So an item, that is not an easy find, like a Monfil 27 in left hand drive may be called "Rare" but I do not feel it is truly "Rare". Sometimes, if you are not deeply involved in something, you may feel an item is rare because you had a hard time finding it, but after you learn more about it, you discover that they are out there. Other times "Rare" can simply become Seasonal, where this year it is impossible to find and in two years you seem to be tripping over them.
Other contributing factors to the world of "Rare" are what I call the "Avenues of Availability". In the 1980's, a Julius Vom Hofe 6/O--B Ocean Model:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Edward%20Vom%20Hofe/Julius%20Vom%20Hofe--B%20Ocean%20Model--size%206-O--restoration%20085_zpsdseegigb.jpg)
would sell in the $1000 to $2000 range because they were very difficult to find and were considered "Rare", but in today's EBay world, you can buy this reel in this condition for about $350. They are still special but they are not rare. Today their historical significance out weights their monetary value.
So,,,,
Dominick,
QuoteMaybe I've passed it by but I've been pretty diligent on ebay in the past few years and have seen one yet. Undecided
I will keep looking for one for you. The next White spool I find will be yours.
Point taken, rare is a subjective word to say the least, especially in the world of collecting. ;)
Nice Vom Hofe, Mike. Clean, original Vom Hofe's will continue to climb in price.
As for looking out for a white spool for me... that would be awesome and add that touch of elegance to my collection, thank you.
Dom
Love this thread...read it a few times over the last couple months haha.
Mods - anyway we can stickie this in the collectors sub-forum?
It should stick around!
QuoteMods - anyway we can stickie this in the collectors sub-forum?
Great idea because this is a special area that can always be added to. New discoveries are always happening, especially with eagle eye collectors like Superhook aka Ray from the Land of Oz.
Here are two recent acquisitions by Ray. These are one off color variants from the California reel rental shops of the 1930's:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/Penn%20Bayhead%20amp%20Bridge%20City%20rental%20reels%20001%20676%20x%20507_zpsrkp8nlyg.jpg)
These are truly rare. The reel on the left is a Penn Bridge City model and on the right is another variant Bayhead. Rental reels are not usually mint, they have many more hours of use than your standard everyday reel, so these survivors are really special.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/Penn%20Bayhead%20amp%20Bridge%20City%20rental%20reels%20006%20676%20x%20507_zps9kngvmee.jpg)
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/Penn%20Bayhead%20amp%20Bridge%20City%20rental%20reels%20007%20676%20x%20507_zpswz14cixv.jpg)
Finding these reels with non-matching side plates is more normal than a matching version.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/Penn%20Bayhead%20amp%20Bridge%20City%20rental%20reels%20012%20676%20x%20507_zpsph76r5gp.jpg)
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/Penn%20Bayhead%20amp%20Bridge%20City%20rental%20reels%20017%20676%20x%20507_zpsgzj4dq4h.jpg)
This Bridge City model is in very good condition for a rental reel.
Thanks to Ray's keen color vision, these two old rare color variants were not lost.
Damn... Ray you're good! Thanks for posting these for us... I look pretty hard but almost never see anything like these amazing pieces. Were those ebay finds? Are those from the 30's or early 40's?
Because of you guys I work hard at finding these rare relics that I never knew existed with the exception of big red that I just got lucky and took a chance on.
Great stuff!
Dom
QuoteI look pretty hard but almost never see anything like these amazing pieces. Were those ebay finds?
Ray found these on EBay. Reels like this are almost always presented incorrectly and many times they are in a group of old junk. Sometimes the buy is a risk and you may not get what you think you see. EBay photos are notoriously inaccurate; but, Ray can see things very deeply, maybe because he has been in the printing industry all his life and has an eye for it. He has found rare reels in mundane presentations many times. He has the magic touch! ;)
Mike,
You surprised me with those photos. Here i was thinking they were packed away for shipping and - Bang .Check these out! I guess after printing and matching colours for so many years the brain is a little more heightened to variances .
A lot of Ebay sellers do not clean their reels and sometimes you need to see through the grime and dust .
Dom, It's all good fun . Searching is like dropping in a line . You can't be sure of what you'll catch.
Thanks guys
You guys make a heck of a team!
I'll have to train these eyes a bit better and maybe some of those will be shipped to me. ;)
Thanks
Dom
QuoteYou surprised me with those photos. Here i was thinking they were packed away for shipping and - Bang .Check these out!
You are correct again, they were packed away for shipping; but, I photoed them before I packed them. I could not allow reels that rare to not be in my database. ;D
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/Bridge%20City%20A.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/Bridge%20City%20A.jpg.html)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/Bridge%20City%20S.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/Bridge%20City%20S.jpg.html)
Mike posted these 2 photos of this late 30's Bridge City.
I have now finished cleaning this reel and the colour change to the head plate is dramatic.
The tail plate stayed a Rusty Orange colour but the big surprise was when i opened the head plate to see the original colour was a dark Grey. Takes a lot of polishing to get back to the original colour and I did not want to wreck the logo so i left it at this. Most of what looked like the dark maroon of the 33-34 Era reel colour has gone. I'll Christen it the Cameleon.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/Bridge%20City%205.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/Bridge%20City%205.jpg.html)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/Bridge%20City%204.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/Bridge%20City%204.jpg.html)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/Bridge%20City%203.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/Bridge%20City%203.jpg.html)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/Bridge%20City%202.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/Bridge%20City%202.jpg.html)
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/ce1446f5-f27c-4a96-980f-9240887f91bb.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/ce1446f5-f27c-4a96-980f-9240887f91bb.jpg.html)
First time i have seen a dark Grey from the 30's . Now we know how much they can change colour.
QuoteFirst time i have seen a dark Grey from the 30's . Now we know how much they can change colour.
Fantastic restoration of a fantastic find. Great Job Ray!
Nice work Ray. That is a nice reel.
Very Nice Ray...that one deserves to be in your collection of coloured old penns.
Here are a few more with colored plates. 2 Long Beach No.60 reels, Long Beach Deluxe No.DL60 and a Leveline No.350. should have dusted these off before I took the photos.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4736_zpsng3biefg.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4737_zpsffbreymd.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4738_zpskmbky0ks.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4733_zpsdv723vsk.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4734_zps9qkcpjdn.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4735_zpsbkirj1fq.jpg)
I did not do the makeover of this reel with numbered parts. It is my understanding that it came this way from the Penn factory in the mid 2000s.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4739_zpsi1tsbau6.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4740_zpsbqmnycqc.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4741_zpstxxjbp4b.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4742_zpsl5ab2vmt.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4743_zpsgbfz8ad9.jpg)
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Thanks guys .
You've posted very special reels here Brian . Your Long Beach DeLuxe is the only one of this model i have seen in COLOUR . Thanks for sharing.
Those reels definitely raise the wow factor off the charts............I like them all, but darn that red Long Beach is one sexy reel.
Brian, I'm up for adoption in case you weren't aware. ;D
Brian,
Those are some special reels there. That LongBeach Deluxe must be particularly scarce. That 350 is special too.
I wish I was at that estate sale, but probably wouldn't have been able to snatch any of those beauties from Brian, Mike, or Ray's kung-fu grip anyway.
I know you guys put in your time on finding those treasures, as I've been collecting for about 8 years now and have only found a single one-off colored reel, my Big Red (9/0).
There goes the bar again being raised higher and higher... I love it!
Thanks for posting those drool worthy photos,
Dom
Amazing :o
OK Brian, now that I have seen your reels I am going to throw mine away. :(
Thanks all, glad you enjoyed the photos.
Ted, if I adopted you I would not be able to buy reels. LOL
Dom, your red 9/0 is a great find. I missed one some time ago and have not seen another one. It's a reel I would like to add to my collection.
Mike, if you are going to throw out you reels, throw them my way. I know you have reels as good as these and a number that are better.
Quote
Mike, if you are going to throw out you reels, throw them my way. I know you have reels as good as these and a number that are better.
Brian, Good to hear you joking around. Very glad you are feeling better.
This website has the best tutorials on the web, bottom line, none better. I have had a ball here and built a couple of very special reels with the help of gurus that reside here.
Nope, I am not throwing my reels away yet, you know me, many times the wise guy, but, it is good hearted fun.
Our family went to New Zealand after Christmas and I found a nice 85m which has a mottled brown and black colouring. Reminds me a bit of leopard skin.
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/85%20m_zpsihln0mcp.jpg)(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601%3Cbr%20/%3E%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/mottled%202_zpsrirv3p3l.jpg)
Basto
QuoteOur family went to New Zealand after Christmas and I found a nice 85m which has a mottled brown and black colouring. Reminds me a bit of leopard skin.
Great find, these are always sought after. Funny that you found it in New Zealand.
Hey Superhook! How come you did not find this reel, you can see New Zealand from your kitchen window!! ;)
Mike,
Basto says he was in NZ at the time he found the reel. While i might be able to see NZ from the kitchen window the short swim over is not worth getting wet. ;)
I have one of these, although you have to look harder for the mottled color; shows up well in flash phtotography. I was surprised to find this under the dirt after the first cleaning.
(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/DSC_7207_zpsiucevcnb.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/DSC_7207_zpsiucevcnb.jpg.html)(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/DSC_7206_zpsu5wjljbg.jpg)[URL=http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/DSC_7205_zps2ss8nnsc.jpg.html](http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/DSC_7205_zps2ss8nnsc.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/DSC_7206_zpsu5wjljbg.jpg.html)
Sid
SE FL
The more dramatic the mottling, the more valuable and interesting the reel is. Truly dramatic mottled reels are very hard to find. I have been looking for this one for years; but, I cannot find it.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/Radical%20Mottled_zpsjzt8hell.jpg)
All I have it the picture, so I know it is out there somewhere.......................................................... :(
Ray, when we find this reel we are going to have to cut it in half. Then we will have to decide who gets the top and who gets the bottom.
Quote from: Superhook on January 09, 2016, 10:46:49 PM
Mike,
Basto says he was in NZ at the time he found the reel. While i might be able to see NZ from the kitchen window the short swim over is not worth getting wet. ;)
That`s correct. I was browsing around a little town just north of Nelson and found it in a second hand shop. It came with box and manual.
Basto
Don't mean to de-rail this thread, but I couldn't help noticing the DIX aftermarket drag adjustment, (multi-colored reel pictured above)...Had opportunity to purchase a pair of them new, but wasn't familar with how well they worked so passed...Seemed a bit complicated, and I can't think of any benefit the back-reeling adjustment via handle gives except maybe a bit more torque? But that is all speculation; would love to hear from those who have actually fished this set-up as to how it performed..
Chad
Quote from: Penn Chronology on January 10, 2016, 12:36:57 AM
The more dramatic the mottling, the more valuable and interesting the reel is. Truly dramatic mottled reels are very hard to find. I have been looking for this one for years; but, I cannot find it.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/Radical%20Mottled_zpsjzt8hell.jpg)
All I have it the picture, so I know it is out there somewhere.......................................................... :(
Ray, when we find this reel we are going to have to cut it in half. Then we will have to decide who gets the top and who gets the bottom.
Mike, have you checked with Sal to see if he photoshopped this pic? He seems to be proficient with that as well as reels and stones...
Sid
SE FL
QuoteMike, have you checked with Sal to see if he photoshopped this pic? He seems to be proficient with that as well as reels and stones...
Sal would never do that. This reel is real................ ::)
Quote from: Penn Chronology on January 10, 2016, 12:36:57 AM
The more dramatic the mottling, the more valuable and interesting the reel is. Truly dramatic mottled reels are very hard to find. I have been looking for this one for years; but, I cannot find it.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Colors/Radical%20Mottled_zpsjzt8hell.jpg)
All I have it the picture, so I know it is out there somewhere.......................................................... :(
Ray, when we find this reel we are going to have to cut it in half. Then we will have to decide who gets the top and who gets the bottom.
It was sold by Langs in 2003 in the big Penn auction, as I posted here a few years ago. Find the listing, and maybe you'll find the buyer.
.
Sid is correct. If you can get a pic in good light, the colours become more apparent.
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/mottled%202_zpsrirv3p3l.jpg)
Basto, that looks a lot like the 60 I just bought that I'm going to photograph and post pics of tomorrow. I've put penetrating oil on all the threads tonight, will tackle the break down tomorrow on my day off. It looks so much better after I've wiped the excess oil off.... I wish I had taken pics of it in the condition it arrived.
Sid
Quote from: basto on January 14, 2016, 12:36:40 AM
Sid is correct.
What would you charge me to teach those words to my wife?
Sid
SE FL
Sid that's not too bad. My Wife says that I don't have a Heart. So when I go to the Dr. I get a picture of it to show her in the waiting Room & say see there it is.
Quote from: basto on January 02, 2015, 02:41:37 AM
I bought one this colour just for it`s frame.(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1020095_zps8438b6cc.jpg)
I JUST BOUGHT AN IDENTICAL ONE ON EBAY!! GOT IT FOR A STEAL, $79 GOING TO HOT ROD IT FOR A SHARK RIG.
So I got my hands on this Long Beach 60 with no numbered parts, mottled black/brown side plates and matching plastic spool. Interesting how the color changed. It arrived pretty dirty and dark(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Long%20Beach%2060/DSC_7242_zpsgcrub5xg.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Long%20Beach%2060/DSC_7242_zpsgcrub5xg.jpg.html)
And after the Simple Green cleaning it lightened up to this, which I didn't like, and wasn't the way the inside of the plate looked, so I know it wasn't the true color (http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Long%20Beach%2060/DSC_7272_zpss3gmh1ge.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Long%20Beach%2060/DSC_7272_zpss3gmh1ge.jpg.html)
After some elbow grease and some Armor-All it returned to it's natural color (based on comparison with the inside of the plates) (http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah127/sdlehr/Long%20Beach%2060/DSC_7332_zpsmgyrtyze.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/sdlehr/media/Long%20Beach%2060/DSC_7332_zpsmgyrtyze.jpg.html)
I'm reasonably satisfied with the way the side plates cleaned up, but the chrome is pretty rough. Since this is a thread on color I'll leave it at this and post more in the Long Beach thread
Sid
SE FL
Those plates turned out great. If it was me I would find a NOS or minty era-correct, nonnumbered late 40s LB and swap the chrome, and any worn parts out, and make one really nice late 40s colored LB. Just a thought.
Very cool Sid, the leopard long beach.
Mine only has the different colors on the tailplate
Quote from: jhatch on January 14, 2016, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: basto on January 02, 2015, 02:41:37 AM
I bought one this colour just for it`s frame.(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1020095_zps8438b6cc.jpg)
I JUST BOUGHT AN IDENTICAL ONE ON EBAY!! GOT IT FOR A STEAL, $79 GOING TO HOT ROD IT FOR A SHARK RIG.
Nice pickup!
Sid
You did a good job on that plate. I have only been game to wash plates in soapy water, but the Armorall did the trick.
These colorful penn's are amazing, love this place penn's are what brought me to this site.
Quote from: Tightlines666 on January 14, 2016, 11:23:45 PM
Those plates turned out great. If it was me I would find a NOS or minty era-correct, nonnumbered late 40s LB and swap the chrome, and any worn parts out, and make one really nice late 40s colored LB. Just a thought.
And a good thought, at that. I had a 65 from the same era that I swapped out side rings (not minty, but better than what was there), end caps, eccentric lever and screw, and drag star, but the handle was larger than the 60, so I left that for now. I swapped posts from another 60 I had - (the posts aren't numbered).... I'm thinking about plating the crank, I just have to experiment a little more on the plating and perfect my technique. I've got four more posts to practice plating on.... and a drag star. I've ordered a 99.9% chromium rod to add to the Caswell brush-on plating kit to use as the anode.... Total investment in plating equipment is $50. They don't want to sell you a chromium anode because with it you won't need to order solution as often from them....
Sid
SE FL
Here's one with colors ya don't see everyday. I'm going to clean up the metal parts...but it looks to me like they might be beyond cleaning. :-\
That one 'pops'.
I may need to clean up my LB with the pretty colored tailplate one of these days.
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Here's one with colors ya don't see everyday. I'm going to clean up the metal parts...but it looks to me like they might be beyond cleaning. Undecided
Posted on: January 14, 2016, 10:09:23 PM
Posted by: sdlehr
Metal parts are relatively easily replaced; but, those plates are special. Great find. As John has said before, locate newer or new metal and mint out the reel. Just be careful to find the right era parts.
Quote from: Penn Chronology on July 29, 2016, 07:39:38 PM
Metal parts are relatively easily replaced; but, those plates are special. Great find. As John has said before, locate newer or new metal and mint out the reel. Just be careful to find the right era parts.
This is the reel we talked about over on the Delmar 285 thread in Sid's vintage forum. I'm still considering pimping this thing out with Longbeach 65 parts for a wider Delmar...like the 286. Here are the parts cleaned up, the insides look great, very little wear on the gear train. Only the posts, drag star, stand, and handle are shot. It appears this reel was fished once and left out on a beachfront porch. :D Here's a better look at those plates too.
QuoteThis is the reel we talked about over on the Delmar 285 thread in Sid's vintage forum. I'm still considering pimping this thing out with Longbeach 65 parts for a wider Delmar...like the 286. Here are the parts cleaned up, the insides look great, very little wear on the gear train. Only the posts, drag star, stand, and handle are shot. It appears this reel was fished once and left out on a beachfront porch. Cheesy Here's a better look at those plates too.
Mike, the logo on your mottled reel reads 286, if I am seeing it correctly, not 285. Now I do not want to raise any flags here, but, if your plates are 286 plates, mottled as dramatically as they are,,,, you are in possession of a rare and valuable reel.
Quote from: Penn Chronology on July 30, 2016, 01:48:11 AM
QuoteThis is the reel we talked about over on the Delmar 285 thread in Sid's vintage forum. I'm still considering pimping this thing out with Longbeach 65 parts for a wider Delmar...like the 286. Here are the parts cleaned up, the insides look great, very little wear on the gear train. Only the posts, drag star, stand, and handle are shot. It appears this reel was fished once and left out on a beachfront porch. Cheesy Here's a better look at those plates too.
Mike, the logo on your mottled reel reads 286, if I am seeing it correctly, not 285. Now I do not want to raise any flags here, but, if your plates are 286 plates, mottled as dramatically as they are,,,, you are in possession of a rare and valuable reel.
Well.. all be.. that sure does look like a "
6"
It does look like a "6" until you click on and enlarge . Then you can see it is a "5".
Yep...it's a "5"...but still...look at those colors! There's even a few green specks...definitely a "swept the floor at quitting time" set of plates! 8)
Great find on that reel Mo.
When you get Mike's attention. It is something special.
OH yea! That one fooled me.
Thanks Ray, you are my voice of reason!!! ;)
Jeez Mike , me..reason ? ??? We're both in real trouble. :o
Mo, your tail plate has a really nice sunburst pattern. This could indicate that the injection port for the two-piece mold was in the center where the cast control knob would be later.
Trying to understand how bakelite is molded I read some articles here:
http://plastiquarian.com/?page_id=14339 (http://plastiquarian.com/?page_id=14339)
https://books.google.com/books/about/American_Plastic.html?id=Nq_BQgAACAAJ (https://books.google.com/books/about/American_Plastic.html?id=Nq_BQgAACAAJ)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite#Compression_molding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite#Compression_molding)
Evidently, the "flash" that squishes out of the seam of the two-piece mold and other fresh waste in the kettle may be reused because it is not yet cured. The aberrant red, green and speckled side plates may have included left-over resin and/or flash from making handle knobs. The speckles may indicate more flash (that would not completely dissolve) and less virgin resin. The handle knob resin probably didn't have fillers so they would be brighter in color and more translucent. The side plate resin had black or dark maroon pigment to conceal fillers that add strength.
There were no blue handle knobs and you very seldom see any vintage blue bakelite because the blue pigments of the day were unstable in bakelite and often turned green.
-steve
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Jeez Mike , me..reason ? Huh? We're both in real trouble. Shocked
Posted on: July 29, 2016, 09:39:34 PM
Posted by: Penn Chronology
We sure are; but, it is good trouble..............<:O)
Quote from: sdlehr on January 14, 2016, 06:33:02 AM
Quote from: basto on January 14, 2016, 12:36:40 AM
Sid is correct.
What would you charge me to teach those words to my wife?
Sid
SE FL
Don't know how much Greg would charge you, Sid...
However, I would pay to see you introduce this matter to your wife.
Good luck with that... ;D ;D ;D
Best,
Fred
Good article Steve. Interesting explanation about the differences between Catlin, and Bakelite.
QuoteTrying to understand how bakelite is molded I read some articles here:
http://plastiquarian.com/?page_id=14339
Understanding Bakelite can become mind numbing for me. The material had such a wide range of uses, that a thousand books could be written about it. Being a Chemist might help. What frustrates me sometimes is when I read about it, there is hardly ever a reference to the fishing reel industry about it.
Anyways, this particular article was excellent. I am going to save it and use it for reference in the future because I believe it covers what Penn's needs of the material were.
Quote from: oc1 on July 30, 2016, 11:00:22 AM
There were no blue handle knobs and you very seldom see any vintage blue bakelite because the blue pigments of the day were unstable in bakelite and often turned green.
-steve
What is it about blue? When I was a young apprentice spraying the back of illuminated signs, perspex, the colour blue was always the most difficult to cover evenly, You had to put a lot more paint on than other colours to get an even look when the sign was lit up.
I have seen Penn reels with blue handles on Etsy.
Basto
Penn made a blue million(good one mo...hee hee) of the little handles in blue...like the #24-109 and #24-85. I have never seen any others in blue...or a plate...that would be some sight! :o
You notice the plastic in 109 type handles (like the one Fred showed yesterday) do not have the translucence of the torpedo type handles. I'm just guessing that they have some sort of filler added to make the plastic stronger. Wood or walnut shell powder perhaps?
Bakelite billiard balls and poker chips are a puzzle. Bakelite sort of revolutionized billiards because before bakelite billiard balls were made of ivory (high maintenance and very expensive) or celluloid (inferior performance). Without bakelite there may not have been the pool hall culture of the prohibition era and beyond. Bakelite billiard balls take a lot of abuse. They have bright colors but are sort of opaque like the blue reel handles.
So, why were normal side plates all black or dark maroon and not made with bright colors like billiard balls? The art deco style of the 1920's was all about bright colors and high contrast. Side plates were the color of telephones, automobile distributor caps and other electronic and electrical components. I wonder if side plates required a different kind of resin filler; a filler that also made them heat resistant like a distributor cap or electrical outlet. Asbestos perhaps?
Heat resistance may not be as important in small reels as in large reels. It is hard to heat up the drag in a small reel. Has there ever been an example of an aberrant colored side plate in a Senator or Master Mariner?
I know nothing. Just wondering.
-steve
Quote from: oc1 on August 01, 2016, 08:22:58 PM
So, why were normal side plates all black or dark maroon and not made with bright colors like billiard balls? The art deco style of the 1920's was all about bright colors and high contrast. Side plates were the color of telephones, automobile distributor caps and other electronic and electrical components. I wonder if side plates required a different kind of resin filler; a filler that also made them heat resistant like a distributor cap or electrical outlet. Asbestos perhaps?
-steve
I wonder if black and dark maroon were used simply because they were less expensive to manufacture?
Over the years, Penn experimented with various systems of reel manufacturing that sometimes involved making most parts on site -- or, many times, parts were sourced from various companies, and produced to the specifications demanded by Penn.
As a rule, most metal parts were manufactured on site in the Philadelphia plant, as well as the sideplates.
Sometimes handles, and particularly knobs, were acquired from other sources -- but manufactured exclusively and under contract for Penn. Contracts were in place to insure that the parts manufactured were exclusive to Penn. Same goes for parts such as screws, bushings, springs, drags, etc..
It made more sense (economic and logistical) when using many small repetitive parts -- to outsource these to other companies. Everyone did this (at least the companies that stayed in business for a longer time) to a point -- Penn, Ford, GM, Chrysler, RCA, GE, and others.
I do not know about sideplates in the old days -- but when touring the Penn plant a couple of months ago with Tony & Tom -- there was a gentleman working on finishing and drilling sideplates that Penn received from one of their off site suppliers. These were for the US made large Senators -- 116L & 117L (12/0 -- 14/0).
These were black, and appeared to be the same as the older ones -- although I do not know if they were bakelite, or a new modern reinforced plastic resin material.
Just interesting.
Best,
Fred
oh.... I forgot about UV resistance. The heavily pigmented resin would have more resistance to UV degradation. There's probably not much UV radiation in a smoked-filled pool hall or around a poker table. Sometimes we see chalky side plates but I don't know if that is from UV or some other sort of oxidation. It seems like maroon side plates are more likely to look chalky, but maybe the chalk just shows up better. I don't remember seeing a side plate that is really crazed and cracked throughout but you guys look at old reels and I just look at picturesT. I don't remember seeing (pictures) of knobs that look like there is UV degradation either.
If the knobs are outsourced then what is the origin of the brightly colored resin in the aberrant side plates? R&D? Just somebody screwing around? Using stuff swept up off the floor may have been euphemistic rather than literal.
I suspect, but do not know, that when the red special senators came out in the 1960's they were using more advanced resins. There had been several decades of rampant petrochemical development by then.
-steve
I won this red LB60 on eBay. Soon after my purchase the same seller listed another, almost identical red LB60. So, there are more than one out there. I believe mine was made in the 1990's and appears to be unused. Too bad the box and papers weren't with it.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010761_zpsbxmdwkud.jpg)
Long Live the Long Beach,
George
George, I hope this is what it appears to be, but to have two show up from the same guy would have me scratching both my head and the finish on the inside of the plates looking for paint. It wouldn't be the first time.
Sid
Sid, when the seller listed another red LB60 soon after I won mine, I was very concerned that something sinister might be going on. :o However, I now have it in my hot little hands and can confirm it is the reel deal. The bidding for the second one was over this morning and I hope it went to one of our members. Maybe he will chime in here.
George
George's reel and the other one that was listed are the real deal. It did go to a member here, though it wasn't me... that seller is a piece of garbage and I wouldn't buy a Rolls Royce from him if he was selling it for a dollar. I offered him $75 for the reel before any bids were on it, he declined (which was totally understandable), then I see my offer and my name at the bottom of his listing in the question section. When I called him out on it he said my offer was absurd as he got another offer for $200 (and mentioned the person who offered it- classless move) that he also declined. I know the person who offered that so I thought it would be crappy to run his price up to where I knew he would go. Needless to say the reel didn't even fetch the $75 I offered because he listed it like a knucklehead and has a terrible demeanor.
Happy you got a nice reel and a sweet deal, George.
PS- I've been watching you pluck some pretty nice reels off ebay... maybe even a schultz and a Higgins here and there. ;)
Stay fishy my friends,
Dom
Beauties! Fun to watch these reels on ebay...who knows what they'll fetch.
Sellers on eBay have been getting under my skin a bit lately...super slow handling times (like 7-10 days >:() and shipping times of 1 week plus. Three weeks to get something in todays age absurd...
Quote from: broadway on June 21, 2017, 12:55:43 AM
I offered him $75 for the reel before any bids were on it, he declined (which was totally understandable), then I see my offer and my name at the bottom of his listing in the question section. When I called him out on it he said my offer was absurd as he got another offer for $200 (and mentioned the person who offered it- classless move) that he also declined.
So, the seller probably got about one fourth of what he was hoping for both reels. Lucky for us, not so for him.
Quote from: broadway on June 21, 2017, 12:55:43 AM
PS- I've been watching you pluck some pretty nice reels off ebay... maybe even a schultz and a Higgins here and there. ;)
Stay fishy my friends,
Dom
Dom, you're good, very good. ;)
George
Sweet piece. Some of my buys lately have seemed a little slow but I'll say JDL and Jay at Fishgrain (both AT) continue to be fast and fair.
Now that is a score !!!
I doubt there are very many more red long beach reels out there or we'd have already seen them. I haven't ever seen one before, so congrats George on a rare find !!
-Ted
I was the other bidder, the one that lost. I could see what was going on between Dominick and the other person who I know. That is why I backed off. I did not want to drive up the price for this seller. Glad to see it went at the low end. Seller was not too smart.
QuoteSee what you started George?
Good to see you just the same. Grin
Glad you guys got some unique reels from a not so unique seller.
It takes all kinds.
Money talks, Bullshit walks. Wink
So far George got the first red Long Beach and then Brian got the second red Long Beach. Who is going to get the third red Long Beach?
Quote from: Penn Chronology on June 21, 2017, 05:29:55 AM
So far George got the first red Long Beach and then Brian got the second red Long Beach. Who is going to get the third red Long Beach?
Hey...hold on fellas...what about this LB on page three of this very thread? 8)
Quote from: mo65 on June 21, 2017, 02:26:59 PM
Hey...hold on fellas...what about this LB on page three of this very thread? 8)
That was posted by Brian Purrone. Was he the seller in the auctions mentioned above? I missed them.
Edit:Nope, can't be Brian, not after the way the seller was referred to above. I had forgotten that.
Sid
QuoteThat was posted by Brian Purrone. Was he the seller in the auctions mentioned above? I missed them.
Edit:Nope, can't be Brian, not after the way the seller was referred to above. I had forgotten that.
Sid
Brian was the buyer of the second Red LB.
The red Penn Long Beach on page 3 is still in my collection. I just got notified that the one I got yesterday will ship today. From looking at the catalogs they don't indicate a Stainless Steel spool until No.38B, don't have a 37B. What year is the Number 38 catalog? If someone has the No. 37 catalog could you see what spool they indicate the reel has?
Thanks for the help, Brian
Please excuse the interruption... I just looked at your website for the first time Brian and have to complement you on the great collection and photography. Now returning to the thread......
-steve
Quote from: mo65 on June 21, 2017, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: Penn Chronology on June 21, 2017, 05:29:55 AM
So far George got the first red Long Beach and then Brian got the second red Long Beach. Who is going to get the third red Long Beach?
Hey...hold on fellas...what about this LB on page three of this very thread? 8)
Quote from: Oceanreels on October 12, 2015, 07:43:02 PM
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/BAP1-5Scale/Alb%203/100_4733_zpsdv723vsk.jpg)
Mo, you are not playing fair! How could we ever forget Brian's vintage LB. Mine isn't even in the same league as his.
Long Live the Long Beach,
George
QuoteThe red Penn Long Beach on page 3 is still in my collection. I just got notified that the one I got yesterday will ship today. From looking at the catalogs they don't indicate a Stainless Steel spool until No.38B, don't have a 37B. What year is the Number 38 catalog? If someone has the No. 37 catalog could you see what spool they indicate the reel has?
Thanks for the help, Brian
The "B" type catalog do not run with the "A" type catalogs in the late 1970's. A 38B catalog is a 1982 issue, that is why it displays the SS Spool. There is no 37B catalog and the 36B catalog is a 1976 issue. The 38A catalog is a 1977 Issue and the spool would be a three piece chrome on brass spool as would the 38A catalog also.
Let's also not forget Brian's Red LB Deluxe... that's one of the sickest Penn reels ever made.
I have had a red non handle side plate for a couple of years just like the ones that were recently won, but I don't have the head plate. :-\
Very cool stuff,
Dom
PS- Mike, thanks for clarifying the confusing catalog situation.
Mike, thanks for the info. What was the first year of the SS spool?
QuoteMike, thanks for the info. What was the first year of the SS spool?
They started to mention Stainless Steel spools in the catalog text in the 1980 catalog; but, some of the pictures in the 1978 catalog look like Stainless steel spools. The 1978 text descriptions are still saying they are chrome plated brass. Around that time Penn was experimenting with a coup[le of different materials for spools. They were starting with the aluminum spool, still using the old style plastic and chrome on brass versions on some reels and trying out the stainless steel stuff. Aluminum became the material of choice in time, it covers many of the characteristics needed using one material.
Mike, thanks again.
So when are you going to do a Book from 1958 and on for Penn reels?
QuoteSo when are you going to do a Book from 1958 and on for Penn reels?
In progress. Long road...
Quote from: Penn Chronology on June 23, 2017, 05:35:55 AM
QuoteSo when are you going to do a Book from 1958 and on for Penn reels?
In progress. Long road...
Music to your fan's ears ;D
Quote from: coastal_dan on June 23, 2017, 02:27:08 PM
Music to your fan's ears ;D
Yes and no :) I don't want to be tempted to collect any more than Penn reels from their first 10-15 years of existence; I've kind of stopped when the parts became numbered in most cases. I'm not sure how I'll react to a whole new bunch of information :)
Sid
Quote from: Penn Chronology on June 23, 2017, 05:35:55 AM
In progress. Long road...
I'll be first in line for a copy! 8)
QuoteYes and no Smiley I don't want to be tempted to collect any more than Penn reels from their first 10-15 years of existence; I've kind of stopped when the parts became numbered in most cases. I'm not sure how I'll react to a whole new bunch of information Smiley
Sid
Exactly how I feel. That is why the road is so long for this book. I put so much into the first three, now it is like starting all over and I do not have the dramatic times of the Depression and WW II to make things more interesting. I also hope to have learned from my initial mistakes, so the Volume II should be a better working book. Not enough hours in my days.
There is an Ocean City book at the editing stage. Let see, the Blue went into the editing stage about 2010 and was published in 2014, if you would have seen the first draft you would understand. ;D Hope the OC book does not take as long.....<:O(
all these pics are awesome!!!!!!! thanks for sharing!!!!
Hi there,
We have all seen Penn reels with white spools - I have seen #80's, #85's and LB60's.
Here is my white spool #80 -
(http://alantani.com/gallery/22/8447_24_12_17_1_49_04_229081698.jpeg)
(http://alantani.com/gallery/22/8447_24_12_17_1_49_24_2290980.jpeg)
However, this is the only white spool #155 I have seen - a 1942 reel(no yardage stamp on the foot)
(http://alantani.com/gallery/22/8447_24_12_17_1_49_50_229102423.jpeg)
(http://alantani.com/gallery/22/8447_24_12_17_1_50_46_229121455.jpeg)
(http://alantani.com/gallery/22/8447_24_12_17_1_50_18_229112304.jpeg)
I found this one in very good condition, but it had been dropped at some stage and, as can be seen, the handle is a little loose.
Enjoy.
Cheers
Martin
Wow, that's the only 155 white spool I've ever seen too.....very cool and unique collector piece !!
Ted
That is the first white spool 155 I have ever laid eyes on as well. Cool piece!
got a white spool on a teal colored 109. harryk
I guess we will never exhaust the variety of Penn mutations. A white spool 155 is just so wrong it is really right!
Phenomenal Find!!!
Thanks Mike - I am humbled!
In your book you talk of having seen a few other reels with white spools - I had thought that you would have seen similar 155's. What other reels have you seen?
We know that Harryk has a #109 - photos?
In 25 years time our children may be showing off their tricked up/hotrodded reels on this website and one wonders if they will be 3-D printing the parts they want - then we could all 'print off' a white spool for any reel we want!! (no - I didn't print that spool - I'm just an old dairy farmer - no techie!!)
Cheers
Martin
I love seeing these color firsts! Congrats on an awesome find! 8)
QuoteIn your book you talk of having seen a few other reels with white spools - I had thought that you would have seen similar 155's. What other reels have you seen?
The only other reel I have seen with a white spool is a 25. Now that I am thinking about it, a 25 spool may work on a Penn 155. In the mid 1950's, The Penn Monofil 25 was made in Gray but shade variants did happen and I know I have seen a couple in white. Here is the one I have. I do not have the spool with it but you can see what I mean by the plate color.
They are not easy finds.
A green Monofil 26 from early 1950's
$10.50
I finally scored a green Monofil 26 too...but I had to pay a lot more than $10.50.
Great find AC49! 8)
Thanks Mo
Don't worry I paid a bit more than the $10.50 price on the box ;D !!
Would be interested to know how you intend cleaning up yours and whether you replace any parts or keep original ?
Cheers
Alan
Cape Town
South Africa
Quote from: AC49 on January 03, 2018, 07:31:49 PM
Would be interested to know how you intend cleaning up yours and whether you replace any parts or keep original ?
Just hang on for a while brother...I plan to do a resto post soon. On a highly collectible reel like this I'll keep it stock...only replacing parts with correct original parts. After inspecting my 26, it has
no corrosion, so no replacement parts should be needed. This one must have been a fresh water reel. 8)
Someone posted this green 4/0 on the Facebook Vintage Penn group today...WOW...I bit my lip so hard it bled! Sweet reel!! 8)
:o that's nice reel nice ;D
Oh that's Awesome!!!!!!
Very cool! A 113S? Looks blue to me.
Nice!...Mo, did you make him an offer? :)
Sal
I want it!!!!!
I've seen that color on a color chip sample but never on a reel. Who's reel is that?
Wow,
Dom
That is definitely blue. I thought it might be the lighting or the camera, but look at the green on box. That is definitely blue. Dominick
Quote from: sdlehr on December 12, 2018, 08:36:05 PM
Very cool! A 113S? Looks blue to me.
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 12, 2018, 09:57:31 PM
Nice!...Mo, did you make him an offer? :)
Quote from: broadway on December 13, 2018, 03:54:17 AM
Who's reel is that?
I believe it's that same blue/green/turquoise shade they used on the coloramic Peer reels from the mid 50s. I don't know the owner...I just happened onto the post and began to drool...don't even know if it is for sale. I'd say she's well out of my reach anyway.
This 113S came up on the Vintage Penn Reels Facebook page. I researched the vintage of it by determining the box labeling. 113S, in my opinion is a 1955 reel. The 4/0 sold for $25.00 in 1955 unless you wanted it with the "S" option, which is the solid one piece spool. it was not a regular issue in 1955. Buying the reel with the one piece spool in 1955 adds about $2.50 to the price of the reel, hence the $27.50 price tag on the box label. The color of the side plates is very close to the teal green being used on the green level wind 109, 9 & 209 series in 1955. I have to put the reel into a end of day category.
Penn did have a special order color chart. Here are the color chips that were found at Penn.
I am color blind, with a green deficiency, so I have a very hard time determining whether something is a particular color. I depend on my wife for that..................<:O(
There is a Green 4/0 in the Penn Plant display cabinet. A very different green than this reel and also without specific history. The people in the plant only knew that it was in that cabinet for a long time.
I've been trying to buy colored Penn reels to collect and put up as decoration in our house and it has been a real challenge.
I thought I was high rolling on EBay with a bid that went uncomfortably high IMO as it came down to the wire. I ended up never becoming the highest bidder and the winning bid within 10 seconds of the auction ending, went double what I had bid in the last min.
These reels are so cool but probably not in my cards. Darn!
Here is my one colored reel.
(https://i.ibb.co/f2fhPCJ/501-F1-A14-CB01-484-E-BECF-E947-A9075-B9-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1L1Dw9c)
(https://i.ibb.co/60yZmbv/FF311094-A668-47-F2-BEB1-EC446-B5-D9-EDC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zVm5rb8)
(https://i.ibb.co/MRM8fhQ/7-E238-BA8-877-A-4-F2-F-BF43-0-C1863-F5-A7-FD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jLgVz5s)
My holy grail reel because they look so cool is the Monofil 27 in the red/rose color! Maybe one day!
Trever I thought you also had a grey monofil?
I bought one and when I started cleaning it I noticed a crack the entire length of the spool so it was nicely taken back by the person I bought it from.
I want to be like Mo65, the guy has all sorts of cool reels that he scores on EBay for cheap. Then restores them and posts pics. I'm always drooling over his finds!
Trevor,
You have to come with guns when it comes to Penn "colored" reels. My only suggestion is to bid higher or find something else to collect... not trying to be a d*#k, but the fact is that's just how it is.
Best of luck next time,
Dom
Don't give up Trevor. Nice about the rose colored 27's is they don't photograph that well. I got this one fo$30 because the seller didn't light it well and it looked brown. Haven't cleaned it, looks like it was never really fished. Maybe I'll find a rose spool to match . Just keep looking
Green 155 Beachmaster. No part numbers
QuoteGreen 155 Beachmaster. No part numbers
Colored Monofils are cool but a Green 155 is a whole new level of old colored reels. Chris, you have entered a new zone of Penn collecting. Fantastic find!!!
Wow! you are finding some nice treasures Chris...what a reel!
That knob looks familiar, I remember seeing one like it not long ago, just a little larger. :)
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 09, 2019, 12:17:48 PM
Wow! you are finding some nice treasures Chris...what a reel!
That knob looks familiar, I remember seeing one like it not long ago, just a little larger. :)
Sal
I have a Long Beach 67 or 68 with a wooden knob, hard to understand why they kept making wood grasps after they switched mostly to catalin.
Thank you guys very much! This is a different color green than we are used to seeing on the later monofills and Peer reels. I could be wrong but I feel like this is the same green used on the green 4/0 in the penn headquarters. Mike or anybody can you confirm?
I believe you are correct Chris.
Sal
Quote from: 1badf350 on February 09, 2019, 02:28:04 PM
I could be wrong but I feel like this is the same green used on the green 4/0 in the penn headquarters. Mike or anybody can you confirm?
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 09, 2019, 02:40:41 PM
I believe you are correct Chris.
Sal
x2, I saw it in person as well, at the same time Sal did, actually! I think Martha Henze had a green reel that sold in the big auction in the early 2000s, that was another Senator,
I think, but I think the same color.
It's possible, Chris but, to tell that would take a look at the insides of both of the reels side plates (tony you wanna crack that thing open for us ;D.) The one in the factory doesn't look like it's seen much sunlight and is very shiny is why I say that. They both are a dark "hunter green."
No matter what I say SCORE!
Dom
QuoteThank you guys very much! This is a different color green than we are used to seeing on the later monofills and Peer reels. I could be wrong but I feel like this is the same green used on the green 4/0 in the penn headquarters. Mike or anybody can you confirm?
This color looks to be very early. Long before the Monofils. I feel this reel is one of the special order reels that were being used for the rental businesses at the California Piers. Sort of like the green used on this late 1930's Sea Ford.
This one fits in this thread. Ted bring yours over too
You're reely getting some great stuff, Chris !!
Great fine I really like that one,,,, ;) is it called rare or medium rare,,,, ;D
Somebody please tell me Stay-in-Place madness has finally hit me.
I have an XN Squidder that looked like it had the same bolt patterns as the Monofil 26 plates (I know I'm not the first to discover this) but would it be sheer stupidity and/or madness to build a mini little rank using the extremely awesome looking green plates of a Monofil? Thinking gold Squidder frame, but is there a spool that will fit that frame but made for bushings?
QuoteI have an XN Squidder that looked like it had the same bolt patterns as the Monofil 26 plates (I know I'm not the first to discover this) but would it be sheer stupidity and/or madness to build a mini little rank using the extremely awesome looking green plates of a Monofil? Thinking gold Squidder frame, but is there a spool that will fit that frame but made for bushings?
I would think a 29M-100 (Surfmaster 100) spool would fit.
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I would think a 29M-100 (Surfmaster 100) spool would fit.
I may have to grab one to play around with. Thank you for the suggestion
First step is to restore to original beauty with new chrome parts, then maybe just play around to see what's in the realm of possible.
Nick
Quote from: ReelFishingProblems on April 19, 2020, 11:56:04 AM
Thinking gold Squidder frame, but is there a spool that will fit that frame but made for bushings?
That frame is the extra narrow Squidder...you'll need the P16 Squidder frame and the Surfmaster 100 spool.
QuoteThat frame is the extra narrow Squidder...you'll need the P16 Squidder frame and the Surfmaster 100 spool.
What spool would you use with the XN frame?
If i use the Monofil plates with a new frame I would stick with the P16 frame. I just pulled the XN frame from my XN Squidder that was readily accessible in the house to see what it could look like.
Now I'm thinking I will look for as close to perfect as possible 65 stand and spacer bars.
I used my restless energy to sharpen all my kitchen knives... feeling a little calmer now
Quote from: ReelFishingProblems on April 24, 2020, 09:41:33 AM
If i use the Monofil plates with a new frame I would stick with the P16 frame. I just pulled the XN frame from my XN Squidder that was readily accessible in the house to see what it could look like.
Sorry Nick, I see now what you meant, blame it on the bourbon. :D
Quote from: mo65 on April 24, 2020, 02:43:22 PM
Quote from: ReelFishingProblems on April 24, 2020, 09:41:33 AM
If i use the Monofil plates with a new frame I would stick with the P16 frame. I just pulled the XN frame from my XN Squidder that was readily accessible in the house to see what it could look like.
Sorry Nick, I see now what you meant, blame it on the bourbon. :D
I'll drink to that
Woodford Reserve at noon, Elijah Craig at dinner
Quote from: Decker on April 24, 2020, 04:28:19 PM
There's been some clamor from the peanut gallery (myself included) directed to Randy to get tiburon to make a 100 spool for the XN kit. Same spool as the Squidder with different shaft. Doesn't seem likely to happen unless he does a kit specifically for the 100.
Don't forget Alan Chui's 100 spool guys. I just put one in a Surfy 100 build...fantastic spool. 8)
https://www.prochallenger.com/product/pc-29l-100-aluminum-spool-for-penn-reels/56?cs=true
Quote from: mo65 on April 24, 2020, 05:54:51 PM
Quote from: Decker on April 24, 2020, 04:28:19 PM
There's been some clamor from the peanut gallery (myself included) directed to Randy to get tiburon to make a 100 spool for the XN kit. Same spool as the Squidder with different shaft. Doesn't seem likely to happen unless he does a kit specifically for the 100.
Don't forget Alan Chui's 100 spool guys. I just put one in a Surfy 100 build...fantastic spool. 8)
https://www.prochallenger.com/product/pc-29l-100-aluminum-spool-for-penn-reels/56?cs=true
Funny you should bring that up. I was just thumbing through his page and saw that! Maybe I should make something with green Monofil plates after all....
If you wanted to keep the stock Monofil 26 width, you could use a Surfmaster 150 aluminum spool. I did that on a brown Monofil 26.
It seems sacrilegious, but I'm thinking of colored Newell's and want to create a penn version....
I say go for it! Every Tom, Dick, and Harry around has a stock colored Monofil.(myself included) I saw that green Monofil hot rod that Pompano Joe built a few years ago and knew I had to get some colored Penns. 8)
Quote from: mo65 on April 24, 2020, 07:09:42 PM
I say go for it! Every Tom, Dick, and Harry around has a stock colored Monofil.(myself included) I saw that green Monofil hot rod that Pompano Joe built a few years ago and knew I had to get some colored Penns. 8)
You have inspired me
Game on
There are a few spread around the site,
Here are a couple of mine:
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13268.msg166340#msg166340
On the very next page Aliala has some nice ones as well.
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13268.msg169173#msg169173
Sal
Sal,
Thanks for bringing those back to light.
I wouldn't even think to look. (My downfall)
They look amazing.
I'd love to see a lot more members do great things with them.
I'll have to start my project now
Today I got this pretty sweet mottled Delmar
Sweet reel Chris
I swear that logo says delmar 385 ;D ;D
Nice one ! That knob is pretty neat, too !
Quote from: Maxed Out on June 17, 2020, 12:32:45 AM
Sweet reel Chris
I swear that logo says delmar 385 ;D ;D
Hahahahaha ;D
That's a fantastic one,,,,, ;) really nice colors and the spool is just black very cool,,,,,,, 8)
Heres a pretty cool Atlantic 14. I must have forgotten about this thread when I got it.
:o
That one has incredible coloring Chris! I'd love to find a Long Beach that dramatic...but they just didn't seem to play around with the more expensive models. The fantastic mottling always seems to be on 85s, Delmar 285s, and the Atlantic 14s and 15s. 8)
Quote from: mo65 on June 26, 2020, 06:12:01 PM
That one has incredible coloring Chris! I'd love to find a Long Beach that dramatic...but they just didn't seem to play around with the more expensive models. The fantastic mottling always seems to be on 85s, Delmar 285s, and the Atlantic 14s and 15s. 8)
Thanks Mo!
Speaking of 85s this one is a recent grab. I initially thought the headplate was black, but saw it had a dramatic tailplate. I was surprised when I got it and saw the headplate.
Got this orange in-numbered tailplate for a light casting reel. So I put it on a clean non-numbered 160. Seems appropriate for October
Just when you think you've seen them all....along comes another "horse of a different color" !
2 fantastic reels,,,, ;) the orange side plate is very hard to find,,,,,,,, ;D
Very well done , i like the color combination .
Saw this teal green 4/0 posted on the Facebooks today...WOW...even has the box! :al
I forgot where the spool thread is but here's a white spool 160 I found locally today
That's nice and crisp. The stand condition is impressive as well. There's something about those small Penns. I like 'em.
Quote from: mo65 on March 20, 2022, 10:33:28 PM Saw this teal green 4/0 posted on the Facebooks today...WOW...even has the box! :al
Looks purty Mike, but closer inspection tells me it's painted green, but I still kinda like it
Whatsa "S" stand for on the teal-113?
The "S" stands for solid or single... meaning not a three piece spool as per Broadway a while back.
One of my favorite Penn's!! John Taylor
That's a beauty, super clean. Don't think I've seen a colored Long Beach before
Quote from: Swami805 on May 29, 2023, 01:25:33 PMThat's a beauty, super clean. Don't think I've seen a colored Long Beach before
It came from Brian Purrone before he died !! John
Quote from: 54bullseye on May 29, 2023, 12:05:37 PMOne of my favorite Penn's!! John Taylor
That has to be one of the coolest Penn colors I've ever seen.
Is a red 85 w/ black spool very valuable?
Quote from: mo65 on March 20, 2022, 10:33:28 PM Saw this teal green 4/0 posted on the Facebooks today...WOW...even has the box! :al
this painted 114h is giving me crazy ideas >:D >:D ^-^