Is there any interest in stainless handle arms or drag stars for Newell reels? I dont need any up front orders, just looking to get an idea what kind of demand there is. I can have any of my current handle arms cut to fit the newell gear sleeves.
Also, I can do drag stars pretty easily since I already have a tap of the proper size for 200-300-400 series reels.
I will need to borrow a 500-600 gear sleeve to measure the threads before I can commit to a drag star on those, as well as getting the dimensions for the gear sleeve hole.
I just did a batch of these handles and counterweights for a member here, and I have 3 extras available. Fits 200-300-400 series reels. $24 plus shipping for handle arm, counterweight, and counterweight screw. Everything is 316 SS for corrosion resistance in salt water. The finish will be brighter on finished parts, these havent been through the final polishing yet. Pm me if you are interested in the handles.
I would take a few for the 2-400 Newell's
Mike
Quote from: Three se7ens on March 24, 2015, 03:30:10 AM
Is there any interest in stainless handle arms or drag stars for Newell reels? I dont need any up front orders, just looking to get an idea what kind of demand there is. I can have any of my current handle arms cut to fit the newell gear sleeves.
Also, I can do drag stars pretty easily since I already have a tap of the proper size for 200-300-400 series reels.
I will need to borrow a 500-600 gear sleeve to measure the threads before I can commit to a drag star on those, as well as getting the dimensions for the gear sleeve hole.
I just did a batch of these handles and counterweights for a member here, and I have 3 extras available. Fits 200-300-400 series reels. $24 plus shipping for handle arm, counterweight, and counterweight screw. Everything is 316 SS for corrosion resistance in salt water. The finish will be brighter on finished parts, these havent been through the final polishing yet. Pm me if you are interested in the handles.
Adam, the gear sleeves for all newells use the same taps and dies. The only difference in the gear sleeves are the lengths for the 500 and 600 series.
I'm sure there is interest for the drag stars, probably the arms too. I'd be in for a few drag stars...
I believe the drag stars would sell well. The old plastic Newell star is too thick to allow creativity in the drag system. For example with Bryan's 5 stack drag I can't back the drag off to full release. With the thinner Newell P series Aluminum star I can back off to zero and I can add little wavy washers that make the ramp up smoother and more gradual.
On the 400 500 and 600 Newells you will notice the drag star spokes are just a little longer than the stars on the 200 and 300 body size. Just try and picture a 600 series with a 200 series star and vice versa. The bigger reel has a bigger drag system and larger OD body and needs a larger star. Threads are all the same on the sleeves.
I could use quite a few of the SS stars in both sizes. 12 each would be a good start for me.
I will be trying one of the new arms soon to see how it feels before I can commit on that one. People will buy a lot of the stars when the protos are out.
I would be in for a few
Me too! Both
Quote from: Newell Nut on March 24, 2015, 08:55:08 AM
I believe the drag stars would sell well. The old plastic Newell star is too thick to allow creativity in the drag system. For example with Bryan's 5 stack drag I can't back the drag off to full release. With the thinner Newell P series Aluminum star I can back off to zero and I can add little wavy washers that make the ramp up smoother and more gradual.
On the 400 500 and 600 Newells you will notice the drag star spokes are just a little longer than the stars on the 200 and 300 body size. Just try and picture a 600 series with a 200 series star and vice versa. The bigger reel has a bigger drag system and larger OD body and needs a larger star. Threads are all the same on the sleeves.
I could use quite a few of the SS stars in both sizes. 12 each would be a good start for me.
I will be trying one of the new arms soon to see how it feels before I can commit on that one. People will buy a lot of the stars when the protos are out.
How thick are the Newell stars? I can get 1/8" and 3/16" thick stainless pretty easy, but I don't have much 0.135" left.
What diameters would be good for the different stars? I'm open to new designs too if anyone has and suggestions.
I will get some dimensions to you in a PM later today.
I am good for at least 5. If the end of the star is a little wider or something that is easy to catch with your fingers, that would be good. I second NN discussion regarding the thick original stars. A thinner SS star would allow for some more creativity in setting up hotrod drags.
Speedwagon2
Heres a quick drawing I did on the stars. They roughly match the late P aluminum stars, but will be cut from 3/16" (0.1875") thick 316 stainless. Thats a little thinner at the gear sleeve, and a little thicker at the end of the spokes than the newell aluminum star.
The PDF is drawn to scale, so it will print out actual size.
Im open to tweaks or adjustments on the drawing, or ideas for other designs. I dont need a big order for a design, and one-off designs are not out of the question.
I like the original design with the material being thicker at the gear sleeve, with the same OD as the spacer so that if you have to crank down on the drags, the star base will slide into the sideplate without hitting the sideplate.
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 26, 2015, 04:28:04 AM
I like the original design with the material being thicker at the gear sleeve, with the same OD as the spacer so that if you have to crank down on the drags, the star base will slide into the sideplate without hitting the sideplate.
The problem is that requires machining after cutting, and will easily double, or more, the cost of the star. To be cost effective, Im limited to 2d shapes than can be cut from sheet. A spacer could be used, but it sounds like there is more interest in a thinner star for the people who are already using a thicker drag stack.
Sorry...My mis-understanding when you said thinner at the gear sleeve and thicker at the ends...I guess you were talking about width.
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 26, 2015, 05:49:16 AM
Sorry...My mis-understanding when you said thinner at the gear sleeve and thicker at the ends...I guess you were talking about width.
That was in comparison to the stock drag star. Mine will be flat, but the original one is thicker at the center than at the tips if the star.
I'll take 2 handles and 5 stars.
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 26, 2015, 05:49:16 AM
Sorry...My mis-understanding when you said thinner at the gear sleeve and thicker at the ends...I guess you were talking about width.
Bryan
What we are trying to do is copy the late model P star which is a lot thinner than the old plastic star for you clarification. This will allow more options with the drag stack. Duplicating the late model P star in SS should sell very well because P stars sell quick on ebay.
We are also talking about duplicating the late model P handle with the SS shaft for the knob being the exact same size as the Newell so anyone with a plastic handle can buy it and just put the Newell knob on it.
Trying to make is very sellable or no need to bother with it.
Is anyone interested in a 3" diameter star, or just the 2.5" and 2.75"?
I drew up another idea for a star that based on the shape of the handle. Love it or hate it, I just want to get some feedback to get a better idea of what is desired. This is the top row in the PDF, and the lower is a copy of the p model stars. Again, the PDF will print actual size.
Sorry Adam, I will not buy the cute ones. Don't float my boat.
Sorry Adam - Just the bottom row
Mike
I would be interested in a 3" star in the first design. The bigger star would give a little more leverage when adjusting.
Speedwagon2
The top row looks nice. Did you ever see the star drag wheels on the old Ocean City 12/0 and 14/0 reels? That would be a very cool looking design. Are these going to be one piece stainless steel star drag wheels or is the center of the star going to have a separate piece pressed in that has the threads? I think a lot of Newell guys will be interested in these including myself.
Bottom row 3" please.
I would be interested in a purple drag star for a 338 if that's an option?
Another vote for the traditionalist bottom row, same size as stock Blackie/P stars... ;)
how about one like this? came on a reel I recently bought. I've never seen another ???, was gonna post up & ask anyways...
Anyone else like the 6 pointed drag star?
Heres the pricing breakdown on the stars. This is for the bottom row in the drawing, cut from 316 stainless steel, and tumbler polished.
2.5" - $17 plus shipping
2.75" - $18 plus shipping
3" - $19 plus shipping
I should have them available around the end of next week, and Ill start taking orders then.
Sounds good. How many of these will you be making on the first run? Will you be posting any pictures of the finished product?
Quote from: fishhead69 on April 01, 2015, 12:06:31 AM
Sounds good. How many of these will you be making on the first run? Will you be posting any pictures of the finished product?
I usually order parts 2-3 times a month from the cutter, and I don't like stocking a large number of parts. I am planning on 15-20 each of the 2.5" and 2.75", and maybe 5 of the 3" for this batch.
I will be posting pictures once the stainless ones are cut, and I bet Dwight and others will too once they get theirs.
As with my other parts, I will continue to make these available as long as there is interest, and I can always have more cut at any time if there is a demand.
I am in,
I would like (2) 3", and (2) 2.75". Will you offer them on your web site?
Speedwagon2
Will you be making any in the top row design? I like those better. It looks like most people like the bottom row design. Please let me know.
Thanks Paul
Ill look into the top row design, or any others after I do a few runs of the others. There doesnt seem to be much interest in them.
I have the first batch in my hands, and I will start shipping on Wednesday of next week. The 2.5 and 2.75" still need to be run through the polisher. The 3" are completely done. I added the parts to my website, and they can be ordered through there now.
http://motivefab.com/products-page/reels/newall-drag-stars
The 3" star on the far right of the picture is completely finished, the 2.5" and 2.75" havent been run through the polisher yet. I just included them for a size comparision. The finish on all of them will look like the star on the right.
Very nice looking product for sure. What would be the minimum number of the top row design you need to have to consider making them? Don't get me wrong, the bottom row design is a very good liking part. Thumbs up. Better than the aluminum ones I have seen because stainless is much more durable and corrosion resistant.
Quote from: fishhead69 on April 12, 2015, 04:15:18 AM
Very nice looking product for sure. What would be the minimum number of the top row design you need to have to consider making them? Don't get me wrong, the bottom row design is a very good liking part. Thumbs up. Better than the aluminum ones I have seen because stainless is much more durable and corrosion resistant.
Cutting a few pieces at a time isnt really a problem, how many are you looking for, and what size?
I am looking at 3 of the 2 1/2 inch and 3 of the 3 inch ones.
Thanks Paul
Quote from: Three se7ens on April 12, 2015, 04:08:39 AM
Ill look into the top row design, or any others after I do a few runs of the others. There doesnt seem to be much interest in them.
I have the first batch in my hands, and I will start shipping on Wednesday of next week. The 2.5 and 2.75" still need to be run through the polisher. The 3" are completely done. I added the parts to my website, and they can be ordered through there now.
http://motivefab.com/products-page/reels/newall-drag-stars
The 3" star on the far right of the picture is completely finished, the 2.5" and 2.75" havent been run through the polisher yet. I just included them for a size comparision. The finish on all of them will look like the star on the right.
I sent a PM to you earlier today stating that i would be interested in the earlier crank arm with the curve to it and the 2.5" star I'm not seeing the crank arms or handles there.
All orders have been shipped out, and this whole batch is spoken for. Im putting in an order for another batch next week.
Adam
Your having a little site problem. When I get in it closes me out. I would like the 4 - 2 1/2" Stars. I can send a PM if you would like.
Mike
Quote from: bluefish69 on April 20, 2015, 02:38:57 AM
Adam
Your having a little site problem. When I get in it closes me out. I would like the 4 - 2 1/2" Stars. I can send a PM if you would like.
Mike
Thats odd, its being weird for me too. Ill look into it.
Quote from: Three se7ens on April 20, 2015, 02:43:50 AM
Thats odd, its being weird for me too. Ill look into it.
The other night it wouldn't let me order but 1 handle for a 113H. Tried to order 2 multiple times and it would kick the order out. One would go alright.
I got 2 last night but we used PM to get ur done
Mike
It has come to my attention that the stars are hitting the side plate before full drag is reached, so I will be sending out a washer to go under the star to everyone who has already ordered a star, and will be including the washer with the stars from now on.
I have all the spacer washers in stock now, and Ill be sending them out in the next few days to anyone who ordered drag stars from the first batch. It will include a keyed stainless washer and a round delrin washer.
Also, I have the newell stars back in stock now, along with some new designs. http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=14344.0
Do you have any more Newell counterbalanced handles?
Hey,
I know this is an old thread, but I was wondering if there is any of this stuff left. I am trying to upgrade a 344 and am trying to get a hold of all of the quality parts I can find. Let me know here or you can send me a private message.
Thanks
Use this link to see prices and part descriptions: http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11661.0
Then PM Adam with your order and he will get back to you.
-Mike
I need a star for my G220!
Do you any?
I have most in stock, you can view them here. (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11661.0) Pm me with what you want and your email address, and I will send you an paypal invoice.