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Fishing => Fishing Line, Knots, Splices and Rigging => Topic started by: STRIPER LOU on March 25, 2015, 05:04:17 PM

Title: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: STRIPER LOU on March 25, 2015, 05:04:17 PM
Hello All,
I tie up literally hundreds of fluke rigs every year for the locals. They're simple but time consuming and I want every one to be perfect. Found this fixture on the internet that is absolutely awesome! What use to take me 20 minutes I can complete in 5 and each and every one comes out looking professional. I've included the pictures from mine and the link to use and build one. I honestly don't think it took 10 minutes to put together. Spent more time looking for stuff. I tried to tie them on 30lbs Hi vis Trilene Big game so you could see it. In the enclosed link if you look to the right there's a bunch of other knot stuff that's great.
One suggestion I would make though is to break or soften the top edge on the finish nails before you bang them in. Also check them afterwards to make sure there are NO sharp edges.

You will also notice I pull the loop down to the edge of the board as this insures every one is the same length. Use a bit of saliva before you pull the knot tight. When I'm doing these I make as many as 5/10 doz at a clip so I have a small container of water with a drop or two of dish detergent for lubrication.
You will also see on my final product that the loop has been cut to a single line. I like this better as it gets rid of some of the bulk and helps prevent fouling and tangles etc.
These knots are very strong when tied correctly even after cutting but I ALWAYS use a drop of super glue just as a precaution. Never use plastic cement as some of these can actually melt the line!
Believe me, if you do any amount of dropper loops you will LOVE this fixture. Made with scrap wood and a few 8 penny finish nails.              ........................Lou               http://wn.com/how_to_use_a_dropper_loop_peg_board

Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: STRIPER LOU on March 25, 2015, 05:08:51 PM
Here's the finished product. Double loop for holding the sinker and a 1/0 swivel to attach the line. Droppers are 10/12" and if the tide is really rippin I may have some that are longer!
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: Bryan Young on March 25, 2015, 05:56:27 PM
Nice jig.  I've been meaning to make one as we sometime make 50 - 100 sets for Discover Angling. 

For droppers in Hawaii, I like to make mine with a twist and hard leader material so the flies are literally floating out there irrespective of the current.
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: Dominick on March 25, 2015, 09:41:13 PM
Thanks for the information.  I'm going to make one from the youtube reference.  Dominick
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: Bryan Young on March 25, 2015, 09:52:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X5sLQH_N3BM
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: STRIPER LOU on March 25, 2015, 10:23:08 PM
Thanks Bryan, I didn't know how to post it that way.
If you do go to the link I sent and watch the second video which will play automatically it gives you the build and sort of the dimensions. Worth a look!
..................lou
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: Bryan Young on March 25, 2015, 10:31:38 PM
This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=txoVR5JoK90
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: STRIPER LOU on March 25, 2015, 10:34:34 PM
Thanks Bry, that's the one. I just finished cranking off another 20 rigs. I cant believe how fast it goes! Where the hell was this video 20 yrs ago!!!!!!!!
................Lou
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: maxpowers on March 31, 2015, 05:34:17 AM
Cool idea.  However I have pretty much stop using the dropper loop fishing except for rockfishing etc.  For yellowtail dropper loop I have been using the spider hitch which test out much stronger than the dropper loop.
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: Bryan Young on March 31, 2015, 02:09:50 PM
Spider Hitch Knot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgqw2clkKiI
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: SacFly on March 31, 2015, 02:36:36 PM
Thanks for posting this.  I make a lot of dropper loop rigs for fluke and for porgy/seabass.  Getting the loops spaced out exactly how I want is what slows me down, and this should remedy that.
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: thorhammer on March 31, 2015, 03:34:46 PM
whats the heaviest mono this will work on? I'd love it on 100 lb mono for grouper
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: STRIPER LOU on March 31, 2015, 04:42:45 PM
I don't think you will have any problem with 100. I do 80 lb all the time. Just remember to lube, siliva or water with a drop of dish detergent and always pull the knot up slowly!
Good luck,  ..  Lou
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: Bryan Young on March 31, 2015, 04:47:27 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on March 31, 2015, 03:34:46 PM
whats the heaviest mono this will work on? I'd love it on 100 lb mono for grouper
I know guys that use 200# mono...but they are pretty big guys and are able to pull those knots tight.
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: thorhammer on March 31, 2015, 04:51:08 PM
thanks! 100 or 130 will be as heavy as i go.
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: johndtuttle on March 31, 2015, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 25, 2015, 05:56:27 PM
Nice jig.  I've been meaning to make one as we sometime make 50 - 100 sets for Discover Angling. 


Hey Bryan, a tip for taking kids rockfishing or other inexperienced anglers:

Use Circle Hooks on the shrimp fly/hootchie tipped with squid. The fish hook themselves and you lose less bait and get less snags.

Literally the angler has to do nothing. The rod can be in a holder or in the angler's hands, doesn't matter. And when the fish are hooked they stay hooked. Use large ones (ie 8-9/0) to get around the lip cartilage. Just wind up when the rod gets heavy.

Fish don't feel the point ever until too late so they keep biting until hooked.


best
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: steelfish on July 11, 2015, 07:05:34 PM
nice videos, I will make my drop loop fixture fo' sho'
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: xaf on July 11, 2015, 08:18:43 PM
Striper Lou, hate to tell you but this was around 20 years ago.  I don't remember where I got the information but I built one and used it all the time. ;)
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: handi2 on July 11, 2015, 08:31:38 PM
That's a great idea. I make them for Vermillion Snapper and Grey Trigger fishing. This will make it a lot more fun..
Title: Re: DROP LOOP Knot Fixture .. absolutely awesome
Post by: STRIPER LOU on July 12, 2015, 12:49:51 AM
XAF, guess I was a little late! I definitely could have used it back then. It shure works good!
.................lou