I was given a 300 yard spool of 80# braided line and was thinking of dropping it on a 113h.
The reel was just serviced and I added the 5+1 Carbontex drag washer kit.
65# seems pretty normal for this reel but there's not as many posts with folks using the heavier line on a 4/0.
If I tape the spool and tension the line while I load it up should I expect any issues in the field?
Also, with a spool capacity of 600 yards of 0.016 inch line (mono or braid) should I plan on backing the 300 yards of braid to help fill up the spool?
Thanks for any suggestions.
I dont know if 113h and 113 share the same spool specs but i have 300 yards of 80 pound braid and about 170 yards of 50 pound on top.
Or do a step splice where you start with 80# braid then splice 65# on top to fill the reel.
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 29, 2015, 04:17:52 AM
Or do a step splice where you start with 80# braid then splice 65# on top to fill the reel.
Great suggestion and one I hadn't thought of.
The reels I'm used to using may max out at 150-200 yards so after spooling a one-shot to them I've been done in the past.
What they said ;D I waxed the spool good before I taped it so it wouldn't corrode under the tape. It's good to use a lighter mono on top of the braid so if you break off you keep the expensive stuff ;)
Nothing wrong with using heavier line. I know some charter guys who do it because you can pick out the backlashes easier. The 4/0 holds a lot of line.
Yes you must add backing under your 300 yds of 80# I do it to my reels as I think they perform better that way when full, you will be suprised how much a 4/0 will hold as braid is thin thats the whole idea> with out backing your reel will appear to be half full! my 2 cents worth. gst.
Is there anything wrong with backing the spool with mono? It's what I have done with the two reels that I have braid on, not really sure I did the right thing after reading this post.
I usually back my reels with dacron because it lasts longer. The salt water will seep down below and eventually weaken the mono. Mono also develops that annoying line memory especially when it's on the bottom of the spool. Mono is fine to use but you have to change it out from time to time. You have to change dacron too but I trust it more and it lasts longer. The only reels that I don't put backing on are the ones that have a pin/post to connect your line to.
I have experienced braid spin & slip when laid on top of mono backing.
The main question is what will you use the reel for? Trolling, bottom bouncing or lobbing a bait? The reel should perform well with that. I'd back it with 50 lb mono and leave room for a mono topshot that you can tailor to your need. That should give you about 500 yards. Plenty. For bottom fishing topshot 20 feet of 80 mono; for slinging or trolling you may want 100 yds of 50 or 60. Great versatile reel set this way.
braid is not as abrasion resistant as mono, and cuts easier. I would spool the braid on the bottom, about 80 yards of 60-80# mono on top, and 50# mono in the middle, that gives you some stretch on the working end, the extra capacity of the braid and 50 to fill the spool. and much cheaper to change out the mono a couple times a season instead of having worn braid on top that will be worn after 1 season, braid on the bottom will last several seasons of fishing.
js
good ideas in this thead, I wa about to ask about spooling a 113h
at the end what do you think will be less prone to corrode the spool as backing:
- 50 yds of 80# dacron then 300 yds 80# braid and later 60# mono to the end
- 50 yds of 60# mono then 300 yds 80# braid and later 60# mono to the end
I prefer to use Dacron but mono does not absorb water nearly as much as Dacron so mono will be less prone to corrosion.
thanks Lee.
then I will keep using the same way I've been using for long time.
Self-sealing tape the spool - and wax if you prefer - then braid (under 10lb tension) then mono topshot. Mono under braid - I just don't like the idea :-\ Surely the mono can get deformed/damaged by the pressure :-\ Also why use mono under braid??
I use my 113H's for halibut fishing so I want the braid on top so I can feel the sinker tapping the bottom (I actually use 65 lb), so I use Dacron to fill the spool, then the braid, then tie the braid to a spreader bar then a mono leader to the spreader bar...
I usually just spool about 500yds of 100 pound braid and call it a day
Spectra uses up 2/3 less of the spool.
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on July 11, 2015, 07:38:10 PM
Mono under braid - I just don't like the idea :-\ Surely the mono can get deformed/damaged by the pressure :-\ Also why use mono under braid??
I feel the same way. I used to put mono on first because that's what everyone else was doing at the time. It takes up to much room it also created other issues with certain brands of braid. If a fish is strong enough to get into my backing, I would rather it not be mono.
Quote from: Rivverrat on August 16, 2015, 04:03:45 AM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on July 11, 2015, 07:38:10 PM
Mono under braid - I just don't like the idea :-\ Surely the mono can get deformed/damaged by the pressure :-\ Also why use mono under braid??
I feel the same way. I used to put mono on first because that's what everyone else was doing at the time. It takes up to much room it also created other issues with certain brands of braid. If a fish is strong enough to get into my backing, I would rather it not be mono.
why some people use mono as backing?
2 reasons;
1. to prevent slippage
2. as a filler
For rock/bottom fishing, spectra gives more sensitivity. I put some flex tape on the spool and fill with spectra then go with a shot leader of mono and/or fluoro for all fishing. Some go with mono as a filler then spectra on top. Charkbait offers that as an option when you get a reel filled. You can take the line off and flip it if bait fishing or just do as I do and call it good.