Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Hello,

Many of you have been asking for an upgrade kit for Penn's 704, 705, 706, 747, 757, 750SS, 850SS, 7500SS,  and 8500SS spinning reels and my prototype samples are just in.

For comparison, here is the stock set up.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/12/386_23_06_15_8_15_03_124291782.jpeg)

And the height in the spool
(http://alantani.com/gallery/12/386_23_06_15_8_15_05_1243049.jpeg)

Then the Ultimate Upgrade Kit utilizing two of Penn's 58-704 0ctagon metal washers.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/12/386_23_06_15_8_15_07_12431816.jpeg)

And the height of the Ultimate Kit in the spool
(http://alantani.com/gallery/12/386_23_06_15_8_15_08_124321815.jpeg)

$25 per kit shipped in the USA, $27 per kit shipped internationally.

Thank you for your interests.

Bryan

Well Bryan you can count me in for a set, just let me know when they get here. Maybe delrin washer for under the spool?  ;D

I will not be providing under spool washers with this drag kit.

Im in for two sets.

Leo

Quote from: Bryan Young on June 24, 2015, 04:34:32 AM
I will not be providing under spool washers with this drag kit.

:'(

Haha I'm in and thanks for providing all these kits. Also, next time you in LA let's share the rail again!

8500ss please

Bryan, count me in for one(1) 750ss kit. I keep it handy to pitch a Cobia/Dorado jig while Grouper fishing in FL.. Also, when in San Diego, it comes in handy for one of my nephews to use at the Islands for YT, as they will undoubtedly backlash one of my conventionals!!

I'll take four sets Bryan!

Yes please & thank you.
I'll take two sets for immediate swap out on my 7500SS & 8500SS.

You guys drive me crazy... Take My Money!

I'll take at least 10 for the guys to use.

Kits are now available.  Messages prior to this message have been invoiced via PayPal.

Thank you,

Bryan

Paid!  ;)

Bryan,

Please invoice me for one more drag kit.

Leo

Received, thanks Bryan.

Do you have anything for the 6500ss?

Quote from: fsrmn on July 16, 2015, 01:05:35 AM
Do you have anything for the 6500ss?

I have them drawn up but have not produced as of yet.  I just spent well over $6k in the past 3 months on additional drag washer kits and have to recoup some funds before I can order additional sizes.

Sorry.
Bryan

 No problem. The 600H drags worked so well I thought I'd ask. I will wait ::) ::) ::) ;D

Quote from: Bryan Young on July 16, 2015, 04:13:34 AM
I just spent well over $6k in the past 3 months on additional drag washer kits and have to recoup some funds before I can order additional sizes.

Sorry.
Bryan

By any chance does this include something for the Daiwa's?

Will this kit fit a 750ssm as well?

Although the 750ssm is a different reel from the 750ss, the kit should work as well. They both share the same spool.
Sal

Yes they will work with the SSM reels.

Bryan!! Any drag kits left?

Marc..

Hi Marc,

I do have these drag kits in stock. How many do you need?  PayPal or would you rather send me a check?

Thank you.

Bryan

I have installed them in the in the SS reels, 750 to 850, the SSM reels 750 to 850, the 700 series reels, 704 and 706. All of them fit perfectly and the 7500 and 8500 are included.

The drag is much higher than stock and the drag knob will tighten quicker to max drag. I recommend the newer style drag knobs. Their much stronger and won't crack like the older ones.

Thanks Bryan..!!

Quote from: Bryan Young on March 04, 2016, 11:33:05 PM
Hi Marc,

I do have these drag kits in stock. How many do you need?  PayPal or would you rather send me a check?

Thank you.

Bryan

One kit Bryan, Paypal, do you have my email?

Marc..

Quote from: handi2 on March 05, 2016, 12:04:57 AM
I have installed them in the in the SS reels, 750 to 850, the SSM reels 750 to 850, the 700 series reels, 704 and 706. All of them fit perfectly and the 7500 and 8500 are included.

The drag is much higher than stock and the drag knob will tighten quicker to max drag. I recommend the newer style drag knobs. Their much stronger and won't crack like the older ones.

Thanks Bryan..!!

I mod a squidder kit to fit my 650ss, they work awsome

Marc..

Bryan....PM sent
Thanks.  Garth

I have a Penn 750SSM. What drag numbers are being produced as a result from this upgrade?

Quote from: TheReelShop on February 26, 2017, 04:48:40 AM
I have a Penn 750SSM. What drag numbers are being produced as a result from this upgrade?

I absolutely don't know. I don't push my spinners that hard. Calculations estimate 20% -30% more drag pressure.

Bryan,

Do you have any of your upgrades drag stacks left for the 704z?

Getting ready to put my project back together and this sounds like a necessary addition.

Nick

Quote from: ReelFishingProblems on March 11, 2017, 11:21:55 PM
Bryan,

Do you have any of your upgrades drag stacks left for the 704z?

Getting ready to put my project back together and this sounds like a necessary addition.

Nick

Sure do Nick. Please send me a PM with your name, address and phone number and I'll mail them out to you. Please pay me upon receipt.

Thank you

Bryan

back in stock.  I was down to 1 kit and with the help of my kids, the kits are back in stock. 

Bryan, will these work on the vintage greenie 700 & 704 reels?

Thanks!  :)

~A~

They surely do Aiala.

Bryan!! Any kit left for 750ss?

Thanks, Marc..

Quote from: Marcq on July 10, 2017, 06:03:21 PM
Bryan!! Any kit left for 750ss?

Thanks, Marc..

Hey Bryan!! I couldn't find your kit at MysticParts. Any other place I could find them?

EDIT: Oops found them
Thanks, Marc..


"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"

Bryan, did you ever get any made to fit the 6500ss?

Bryan, I have a Penn Slammer 760 that contains only one drag washer.  Is there a combination that will increase the drag?  As it sits it has max drag of 20lbs which is sufficient.  However like the rest of the crowd here I would like to increase this by at least another 5lbs or more.   Dominick

Quote from: scrinch on February 21, 2018, 12:58:13 AM
Bryan, did you ever get any made to fit the 6500ss?

I decided not to because the Stock drag is more than sufficient and second is that parts are hard to find. Even donor reels of decent shape to cannibalizes are also hard to find.

Quote from: Bryan Young on February 21, 2018, 05:09:43 AM

Quote from: scrinch on February 21, 2018, 12:58:13 AM
Bryan, did you ever get any made to fit the 6500ss?

I decided not to because the Stock drag is more than sufficient and second is that parts are hard to find. Even donor reels of decent shape to cannibalizes are also hard to find.

It's not just about having sufficient drag, it's also about smoothness. there are plenty of us having these reels, I think you should offer us some.

Sal

That Slammer drag is pretty darn good as it is. Those reels are built very well.

706 ,,,,you have  :D

I'm with Sal on the 650ss. How many pre-orders would you need to do a run? I'm only good for two (2) sets but we likely have enough members that would be interested.
-Mike

Maybe Keta can help you guys out with 650SSs. For me, to get a decent price, I would need to cut at least 300 sets of 5 metal washers. I don't think I could sell 300 sets. I haven't even sold 100 sets of these drag kits, and this drag kit covers a wide range of reels.  The 650SS will likely be much less.

You're right...300 would be difficult. In that case I will need to find Sal's thread about using hex carbon washers and round keyed stainless washers.
Thanks

Just placed Bryan's drag kit into my new 7500SS all I can say is its very nice. No more turning the drag knob several turns to get the drag needed. Bryan's 5 stack drag is a big improvement over the stock drag. It works so well that I would not recommend buttoning it down all the way & fishing this reel that way. Bad things will surely happen at some point.

With Bryan's drag Adam's anti reverse I think 50 lb. line is a happy max for this reel. With Adam's anti reverse one " Might "  be able to push this reel further. I've no desire to do so. With a bucket full of parts available I would. However I have other reels that perform with out question using heavier line. Why take a chance with this pristine classic

Two questions: I'm curious how much higher do you estimate the drag would be on a Penn 8500?  Next, when you recommend the newer style drag knobs, how can I tell the difference?  I have a plastic drag knob on my 8500 btw.  And because I count as well as I think, here's a third question: do you
have any of the kits that would fit the 8500 still?  Thanks

john

Quote from: handi2 on March 05, 2016, 12:04:57 AM
I have installed them in the in the SS reels, 750 to 850, the SSM reels 750 to 850, the 700 series reels, 704 and 706. All of them fit perfectly and the 7500 and 8500 are included.

The drag is much higher than stock and the drag knob will tighten quicker to max drag. I recommend the newer style drag knobs. Their much stronger and won't crack like the older ones.

Thanks Bryan..!!

Hi John,

I honestly don't know how much drag you can get.  I know that it gives me enough drag that I want, which is 15#. I think before the bet I could get was like 10-12# of drag.

They are still available through MysticParts.com.

Bryan

John, the newer style drag knobs are aluminium.

Regarding the increase in drag with Bryans kit.

I believe his drag kit has the capacity to make enough drag to cause the reel to fail if one does not use discretion when setting your drag.

I believe the 750 & 850 will live a long happy life fishing 50 line below 18 lbs. of drag.

Using more drag will be harder on the 850 because of its bigger diameter spool having more leverage & placing more stress on parts... Jeff

Thanks for the replies gentlemen, I'm new to the forum and appreciate the info.  This reel came to me recently, in phenomenal condition considering how old it probably is, and while I intend to fish it, I can't see any reason to really push it.  I was thinking of spooling it with #65 braid and putting it on a popping rod for dorado, blackfin, cobia, kingfish etc.  Penn has no info on it because of the discontinuation so I'm not sure of what I might intelligently try with it but that was the plan.  Would it be smart to replace the plastic drag knob with an aluminum one?  If that's even possible, that is. 

Hi Bryan,
I'm trying to get one of these kits for a 704 1st Generation I just picked up and Mystic is out, do you know when they'll have more?
Thanks,
Darin

Darin, how many you need ?

Quote from: Darin Crofton on February 26, 2019, 12:10:15 AM
Hi Bryan,
I'm trying to get one of these kits for a 704 1st Generation I just picked up and Mystic is out, do you know when they'll have more?
Thanks,
Darin

Hi Darin,

Let me contact Mo to see if she has them in stock and need to get them on the site or if she needs to reorder more.  I'll get back to you shortly.

Bryan

Quote from: Rivverrat on February 26, 2019, 01:00:44 AM
Darin, how many you need ?

just one kit ;D

Quote from: Bryan Young on February 26, 2019, 01:41:14 AM

Quote from: Darin Crofton on February 26, 2019, 12:10:15 AM
Hi Bryan,
I'm trying to get one of these kits for a 704 1st Generation I just picked up and Mystic is out, do you know when they'll have more?
Thanks,
Darin

Thank you, Bryan!

Hi Darin,

Let me contact Mo to see if she has them in stock and need to get them on the site or if she needs to reorder more.  I'll get back to you shortly.

Bryan

Quote from: Bryan Young on June 24, 2015, 03:29:00 AMHello,

Many of you have been asking for an upgrade kit for Penn's 704, 705, 706, 747, 757, 750SS, 850SS, 7500SS,  and 8500SS spinning reels and my prototype samples are just in.

For comparison, here is the stock set up.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/12/386_23_06_15_8_15_03_124291782.jpeg)

And the height in the spool
(http://alantani.com/gallery/12/386_23_06_15_8_15_05_1243049.jpeg)

Then the Ultimate Upgrade Kit utilizing two of Penn's 58-704 0ctagon metal washers.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/12/386_23_06_15_8_15_07_12431816.jpeg)

And the height of the Ultimate Kit in the spool
(http://alantani.com/gallery/12/386_23_06_15_8_15_08_124321815.jpeg)

$25 per kit shipped in the USA, $27 per kit shipped internationally.

Thank you for your interests.

Bryan

i have the 2013 reissue of the 706, would the drag be equal to what i have or better.. thanks

It will be smoother at maximum drag, and will give you approximately 20-30% more drag if needed.

Quote from: Bryan Young on April 09, 2022, 03:18:20 PMIt will be smoother at maximum drag, and will give you approximately 20-30% more drag if needed.

still available?

They are still available through Mystic Reel Parts at https://www.mysticparts.com/CustomParts/UltimateUpgrades/UU-PENN700Z/800Z.aspx.

Thank you for your interest.

Been lurking for a while and finally posting (great stuff all over this site). Looks like mystic is out of these 704 Ultimate Upgrades at the moment. Any idea if they will restock in the near future? I've got an old 704 (with stock drag) I'm planning on putting into service and I'd love to get my hands on the upgrade. If it won't be for some time, I am not opposed to getting the standard stack from Mystic with the HT 100s.

Quote from: AnotherSmith on January 26, 2023, 08:35:50 PMBeen lurking for a while and finally posting (great stuff all over this site). Looks like mystic is out of these 704 Ultimate Upgrades at the moment. Any idea if they will restock in the near future? I've got an old 704 (with stock drag) I'm planning on putting into service and I'd love to get my hands on the upgrade. If it won't be for some time, I am not opposed to getting the standard stack from Mystic with the HT 100s.

So I suppose I should get the standard stack then? Thanks in advance if anyone has any insight on this.

Yeah I think that is what I would do too.  But, I upgraded a few Shimano reels and just substituted drags from Dawn at Smoothdrag. 760-949-0271 Great to work with and when she mails drags to you they arrive yesterday.

Quote from: AnotherSmith on March 22, 2023, 04:41:10 PM

Quote from: AnotherSmith on January 26, 2023, 08:35:50 PMBeen lurking for a while and finally posting (great stuff all over this site). Looks like mystic is out of these 704 Ultimate Upgrades at the moment. Any idea if they will restock in the near future? I've got an old 704 (with stock drag) I'm planning on putting into service and I'd love to get my hands on the upgrade. If it won't be for some time, I am not opposed to getting the standard stack from Mystic with the HT 100s.

So I suppose I should get the standard stack then? Thanks in advance if anyone has any insight on this.

I'm sorry.  For some reason, I didn't see your posting.  Mystic Reel Parts has a new shipment of drag kits.  It may take them a little time to update their inventory since they just opened the bait shop again.  Please send them a message or call them to fill your order.

Thank you both for your replies! I have reached out to Mystic and will hopefully be ordering a set or 2 later this week when they update inventory.

I will also be placing an order with Dawn for some parts and grease for a shimano reel I'm working on.

Thanks again for your time.