Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Discovered a few Tiburon Frames and Kits for some very common Penn reels.  They are all new.  

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Here's what is available.  

Part Number    Reel/Quanity & Color

P10                Penn Squidder 140L     $60
                    2 - Black
                    3 - Silver

P15                Penn Squidder 145L     $60
                    4 - Silver

P16S            Penn Squidder 146L Spool     $60
                  Black

P20              Penn Jigmaster 500L, 505HS, Surfmaster 250, Long Beach 259     $60
                   4 - Silver

P21             Penn Jigmaster 501L, 506HS, Senator 1/0, Newell 322F     $60
                 6 Silver

P29K           Penn "99" sized Jigmaster Frame and Spool Kit     $120'
                 2 - Silver

P29S           Penn "99" sized Jigmaster Spool     $66
                 1 - Black

T3              Topless Frame for Penn Senator 112H and 112HL (3/0)     $66
                 4 - Silver

T4              Topless Frame for Penn Senator 113 and 113H (4/0)     $73
                 5 - Silver

T4NK          Topless Narrow Frame and Spool Kit for Penn 113 and 113H (4/0)     $133
                1 - Black &
                3 - Silver &
                1 - Red

T4W          Topless Frame for Penn 113HLW (Wide 4/0)     $77  (all sold!)
               
T60           Topless Frame for Penn 114, 114H, 114HL (6/0)     $85
                3 - Silver

T60NK          Topless Narrow Frame and Spool Kit for Penn 114, 114H, 114HL (6/0)     $200
                   3 - Silver &
                   1 - Black &
                   1 - Red

P60W           Wide Frame for Penn 114, 114H, 114HL (6/0)   Uses spool from Penn Senator 114HLW     $106
                  3 – Black
                  1 - Red

T12            Penn for Penn International 12T and 12TL     $80
                 1 - Gold

MAG20T         Topless Frame & Left Side Plate for Shimano TLD20 2 - speed     $170
                    1 - Black

Shipping USPS for frames only:
Single within California $6
Anywhere in US   Medium Flat Rate     $11 (Will hold 4 frames.)
Anywhere in US   Large Flat Rate     $15 (Will hole 5 or 6 frames)
International – Actual shipping rate.

Another option.  Send Alan a PM with your name, address and phone # and I'll confirm your hold and will put the frames aside.  Then ship your reel Alan.  Before you seal up the box, add a stamp from the post office for return shipping, a check for the price of the frame you are purchasing.  Either Alan or I will install the new frame and return everything to you in the same box.  Please note that this does not include a full service.  If you want Alan to go through the entire reel, there will be an additional charge of $15-$30 plus part for the Penn Star Drag reels, and an additional $40-$50 plus parts for the Penn 12T or 12TL or the Shimano TLD-2s.  Also indicate if you don't want the old parts back.

If you are interested in upgrading the handles at the same time or would like me to send handles or handles and arms, let me know.

See Penn 113H, 349H, 20, 30s, 4/0 progear http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=156.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=156.0); Shimano TLD20/30 2-speed http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=269.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=269.0); or general info regarding upgrading handles http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=158.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=158.0).

To order a frame, send me an PM with your name, address and phone #.  Once the order is confirmed, I will box it up.  Send a check to alan tani, 12362 ted court, saratoga, ca 95070, and i'll ship out the order when the check arrives.
If you would like to use paypal, please let us know.  Note that there will be a 2% fee charged on top of the total for the use of PayPal.

only through these guys!


Will Fish TackleWill Fish Tackle
11944 Masters Court
Auburn, CA 95603-2537
(530) 887-0839

Noticed you have 501 frames in silver, do you have them in any other color.  Also If I was to purchase 1 from you what would be total cost to Oxnard, CA 93036

Thanks,

Glen

sorry, no, just the colors listed.  priority mail shipping to oxnard would probably be $5.  alan

You listed a payment option as PM what does that mean? Can you please explain, Thanks in advance.

usually what i'll do is just ship things out and have you send a check after the parts arrive.  it makes my life easier because i really hate owing anything to anybody.  over the years, i've had a few guys "forget," but it's relatively rare.  alan

Quote from: okimaguro on May 27, 2011, 11:55:02 PM
You listed a payment option as PM what does that mean? Can you please explain, Thanks in advance.

Okimaguro:  PM means send a Private Message to Alan.  The PM will contain your order and your name and address so that it is not on the general forum.  Don't feel bad, I did not know what a PM was until I asked.  By the way (BTW) if you want to know more internet jargon, Google "Internet Abreviations."  Alan is generous and trusting.  He trusts that you will send him payment after the parts arrive.  Pretty cool in this day and age 8).  You gotta love the character of the guy :).  Dominick

guess it would help to actually read what the guy wrote.  sorry........

I've been staring at reel schematics most of the weekend and am barley able to read myself. Hope you got my check and thanks.

Hi Alan/Bryan,
Just checking on a stock update...
I've succumbed to temptation and would like to upgrade my red Jigmaster 500 with a P20 (if it fits?) and 113H with a T4NK (ie narrow frame and spool).
Still have 'em?
Thanks,
Justin

still got 'em!

P60 W for 6/0.  ARe they still available particularly the red one?

With this frame a person could continue to change out parts like the pinion and build a reel capable of handling significantly more drag than the original?  I know not cost effective way to go but sounds fun, then I could use the left over parts to make another senator.   ;D

Could I still use an Electra mate with the Tiburon frame?  ???

If it's listed, it's still available.

I believe that the Electra Mate attaches to the sideplate and gear sleeve.  If this is the case, you can certainly use it with a reel provided with a Tiburon frame.

sorry, just shipped out the red 6/0 wide frame in exchange for a silver one that should soon be en route.  alan

so would silver be the same price?

yes!

Today was a good day - so I thought I'd share...  ;D
I received my Tiburon frames on Friday (1 x Jigmaster and 1 x 113H narrow), plus a Kolekar for my Tani-ised TLD15 and a Penn Powerhandle for the Jigmaster.

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The TLD was first up, as the handle is the last step in the hot-rodding process.
It already has greased Carbontex and TT40A bellevilles.

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The Kolekar is beautifully engineered - it's now the benchmark in my opinion.
The Tiburon upgrades were simple and fast.

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Both Penns now have S/S gear sleeves and yokes, plus greased Carbontex drag (5+1 and 3+1 respectively).
Now it'll be a Kolekar for the 113H and high-speed gears (when I can find 'em).
Panama has done me a huge favour and sorted Newell gears for the Jigmaster, which are hopefully a week or so away.
I also had a mate's 113H to recondition, so I did that at the same time.
The bakelite had swelled and split the outer rings, so out came the Dremell.
(PS Thanks for the replacement rings Dave.)

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Last cab off the rank was a standard 113 (belonging to another mate), which was in fairly average shape.
And here's the result of a rainy Sunday:

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I couldn't be happier - cheers Alan!  ;D ;D
(One question, though: The gap between the spool and frame is fairly substantial. I assume this is an intentional design element, but thought I'd check - what do you think? Also, given the above mods, is 50lb mono still the recommendation?)

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Next up is this nice little Avet.

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If it hasn't been done already, I'll put together a rundown and pics this week.
All the best, Justin

very nice!  i have a grip that fits on the avet arm.  would you like me to send you one?  oh, and a stainless steel gear sleeve for the black side plate 113.

That'd be great, thanks Alan.
Might as well include a Kolekar for the Tiburon 113H as well...
All the best, Justin

Very nice Redsetta, I love those low profile frames. About the gap, it appears to be too much, I hardly have any gap on mine. Usually when the plates have swollen that bad, it's time to toss them, but if you're able to use them, that's great. This is a stupid question, but here it goes anyway, check if the left bearing is screwed in all the way, sometimes it feels tight but with a little force it goes down some more. If that doesn't work you might need to shim the bearings. I hope I'm wrong but your plates might have something to do with it :-\. Good luck to you, Sal

Nice work for a rainy Sunday, Justin. I like the look of the silver frame with the red side plates. I may have to get another Jigmaster so I can make it narrow. ;D
Rob

Cheers lads.
Thanks for the suggestion Sal.

Where did you pick up the S/S gear sleeves?

i've got a bunch!

thanks Mr. Tani,

currently working on a terminal degree and classes are keeping my busy.  about ten days I will have a short break and start tinkering, you have gear sleeves for 114HLW?

Hey Justin,

      Man, you hit the ground and started running when you were born... you skipped the walk phase.  I like the jump in head first process, too! Keep it up
Dom

Quote from: oldtrackster on July 25, 2011, 09:22:48 PM
thanks Mr. Tani,

currently working on a terminal degree and classes are keeping my busy.  about ten days I will have a short break and start tinkering, you have gear sleeves for 114HLW?

i have four.  got them from electramate!

Cheers Dom. Gotta get 'em into some fish now!

Quote from: alantani on July 26, 2011, 04:53:26 AM

Quote from: oldtrackster on July 25, 2011, 09:22:48 PM
thanks Mr. Tani,

currently working on a terminal degree and classes are keeping my busy.  about ten days I will have a short break and start tinkering, you have gear sleeves for 114HLW?

i have four.  got them from electramate!

Hello Alan, could you put one of those sleeve on the side for me? I'm actually just heading down to Florida for a week, we'll have to take care of it when I get back and you also. Thank you! Sal

will do!

G'day Alan,
I'm just about to spool up my Tiburon (T4NK) 113H (with S/S internals, Carbontex etc) with 50lb Momoi mono and wanted to confirm this is still the best choice.
It's my 'go to' yellowtail kingfish reel - predominantly live bait, but some multipurpose use.
Would you recommend, say, 80lb Spectra backing as per your 'ideal reel' post (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=290.0):

QuoteThe third would be a 50-pound-class reel, holding 300 yards of 80-pound spectra and a 50-yard topshot of 50-pound mono or fluoro, delivering 25 pound of drag.

Thanks, Justin

you're probably looking at a shade less than 300 yards of 50# momoi.    that should be enough!

Hello Alan, I know that you have a lot going on, this is just a little reminder for you to send me the SS sleeve for the 6/0, no harry whenever you get a chance. Also, could you add one for the Jigmasters? If available, I'll take one with the fine threads. Thank you! Sal

ah, so THAT's why i ordered those!!!  can you send me a pm with your address again? 

Done Alan, Thank you!

Alan, I just received the parts today, thank you for the parts and your excellent service, I appreciate it. The check is on its way, take care, sal

G'day lads,
The season's looming here in NZ and my goal of bringing home a 20kg YT kingie this summer is edging closer.
I've built a good rig, but am still second-guessing my line capacity.
I've got a narrow Tiburon 113H (which pulls about 30lbs of drag), spooled with just over 230 yards of 50lb Momoi mono.
It's matched to a new Shimano Tiagra 5'8" 15KG stand-up rod.
I could strip it all off, underlay with 200 yards of braid and top-shot with 150 yards of mono.
Or just leave it alone and stop fretting...  ;D
Any thoughts?
Cheers, Justin
PS One approach to measuring balancing mono/braid capacity: http://www.thesmartfisherman.com/3.html (http://www.thesmartfisherman.com/3.html)

If the line is in good shape, it's the right kind of line for the kind of fishing you're going to do, and it's already spooled on the reel, it sounds like you're over thinking it, just leave it be and start figuring out what lure you're going to use. But I'm sure I'd be doing the same thing.

Quotesounds like you're over thinking it

Is it that obvious?  ;D
Cheers seaeagle - good advice. I'll leave it be...

I'm kinda an overthinker myself.  In Washington state, halibut season is open about 5 weeks, 4 days a week.  Due to the travel distance involved, that means probably one 3 day weekend of fishing.  I have 1 113H with a Jvariance narrow spool and frame kit, 1 113H with standard frame and aluminum spool, I just bought one off ebay with a newell spool and bars.  I have 1 113h with the drag that you can get at without pulling it apart, and one 113hl, and I'm trying to decide what to do with the last two. I think I'll get new bars for the 113h, use the aluminum spool off the 113hl, and get a narrow frame kit when I get some more money, all for about three days of fishing a year......But I agonized for a month about how to do all this.....

Alan- Do you still have any 501 frames...

yes. got a couple left!

Hello

I am new to the site, great info.

Do you have any 145 tiburon frames left?

Thanks

got it boxed up and ready to go!

Thanks Alan.

I see that you have the T4NK frame and spools for the 113 and 113H Senators.  I thought that the spools weren't interchangeable between these reels.  Can I use this frame kit to narrow my 113 (not 113H)?
Thank you,
George

the frames on the 113 and 113h are the same.  it's the spools that are different.  so a narrowed 113h spool would not work in a narrowed 113. 

George, check out the long beach serie spools. You should be able to convert that reel into a narrow, standard and wide.

Quote from: Alto Mare on January 08, 2012, 12:36:43 PM
George, check out the long beach serie spools.

Thanks, that is what I was hoping would work.  I have a line on a Tib narrow frame without the spool.  A Long Beach 66 spool should work with it.  I like my reels to be NARROW.

A Penn 60 spool fits in a narowed 112H but the spool shaft won't work, is there any 60 size spool with the right shaft? 

I have a narrow accurate frame for a 113h but no spool, is there a penn spool that will work si I can make a narrow 113h?

Peter

oooohhh, lookie what i found!!!!  i was rummaging through a box last week and found this.  didn't even know it was there.  i would have paid that price, plus tax.  you can have it for that and shipping.  alan

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Does anyone know if there are any topless frames still being made or maybe I should say, still available, for a Penn International 50S?
I don't care which manufacturer, be it Tiburon, Baker or Accurate.
Thanks.

man, that one is going to be tough.  there were never that many made to begin with.   :-\

Last year, at the Fred Hall Show, Cal Sheets told me if he received an order for 10 various Penn frames that John Baker would make a production run.  I gave Cal my Penn 30 reel and received it a few months later with the Baker Frame.  I would check with Cal regarding a Baker frame.
John

Quoteoooohhh, lookie what i found!!!!

Well done Peter - it's your lucky day!  ;)

Quote from: john2244 on January 17, 2012, 07:10:05 PM
Last year at the Fred Hall Show Cal Sheets told me if he received an order for 10 various Penn frames that John Baker would make a production run.  I gave Cal my Penn 30 reel and received it a few months later with the Baker Frame.  I would check with Cal regarding a Baker frame.
John

If we can come up with 9 more sets I'll take one Penn International 70N frame and spool.

Quote from: john2244 on January 17, 2012, 07:10:05 PM
Last year, at the Fred Hall Show, Cal Sheets told me if he received an order for 10 various Penn frames that John Baker would make a production run.  I gave Cal my Penn 30 reel and received it a few months later with the Baker Frame.  I would check with Cal regarding a Baker frame.
John

Thanks for the info. I sent Eric Sheets an e-mail. Haven't heard back yet but hopefully they have some or I can get on a "waiting" list.

Thanks Alan, I just sent you a PM.

Peter

Dang guess im to late T4W all gone...

not sure.  i'm way behind in shipping. 

Are any of the senator frames interchangeable with international models?

No, they are not interchangeable.

Do you have a Silver P20 frames left for a 500S Jigmaster.  
Also looking for the 24-56 handle and SS bridge sleeve?
Thks

i found a silver p20.  got the other parts as well.  i'm 50 pm's behind, but send a pm with your address and a reminder of what you wanted and i will send it out.

Do you have any Tiburon frame kits left for the Penn 113H??????

there is one left, but they're $73 retail.  we can do something about the price, though.  send me an e-mail if interested.  thanks!  alan

Hi:  I am interested, I just sent you a mail.  Thanks, HalibutZach

Is the one you have left a wide kit or the narrow kit???

Thanks,
HalibutZach

Halibutzach, I believe the one he has will be the silver T4 frame. they were listed on page 1 for $73.00 ea. Its a silver topless frame only. You would need to use the spool ftom a 113h or 113hl.  Bob

Quote from: HalibutZach on November 09, 2012, 10:37:12 PM
Is the one you have left a wide kit or the narrow kit???

Thanks,
HalibutZach

HZ, the narrow one is a T4NK          

"Topless Narrow Frame and Spool Kit for Penn 113 and 113H (4/0)     $133"

Alan delete this if offends...   Reelygone.com has some tiburon frames but like everyone else stock goes pretty fast.

When all else fails you can check with Tiburon directly. I ordered topless International frames (30S & 50S) from them even though I thought they were no longer being made. They had them in stock, so they mave have many other frames in stock also.

Quote from: dobrobill on November 30, 2012, 05:31:38 PM
Alan delete this if offends...   Reelygone.com has some tiburon frames but like everyone else stock goes pretty fast.

never a problem.  anything fishing related is fine.  and if we can save a guy a few bucks, so much the better.

Good deal, The guy that runs the reelygone seems to be able to get orders though it does take time.  Like everyone else Tiburon waits until they can make a big batch and only when they are not doing something else..   

Any 6/0 114H (old school) tib frame with spool kit left? Im tired of casting this thing with my heavy 13' nitro. Feels like im throwing 20 lbs of luggage. I have to use 10oz lead to go at least 30 yards... LOL!

i've got a narrow 114h frame and spool in the garage.......

Quote from: alantani on January 08, 2013, 03:00:45 AM
i've got a narrow 114h frame and spool in the garage.......

AHHHHHH!!!!!! Must control my self ;D

Crap,

I'd like to buy it even though I don't have the reel!
Ron

How much alan?

$170 plus shipping...... :-\

Heck, $170 for a frame and spool is cheap copared to what I just viewed.  There is a Accurate frame for a 9/0 on e-bay for $350... That is way out of my league. Although it would be nice on my 9/0 that I use for wire line. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Accurate-Penn-9-0-Frame-with-Box-and-Clamp-boss-atd-/140747220525?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c530262d

Is there a silver P20 left?

yes.  send me an e-mail with your shipping info and i'll get it shipped out. 

Hey Alan, hello from sunny Fl. Do you still have a silver Tib frame for a 140 squidder ?

Do you have a frame for a jig master 500 s also would be interested in the stainless sleeve and gear?

i will check!

Silver T4NK frame and newell spool for 113H?

not sure about color, but i think have a 113h narrow kit left.  figure $115 with shipping included.  check around and see what other kinds of prices you can get.  they probably retail for more.  let me know.  thanks!  alan

Hold on to it for me Alan. I prefer Silver, but I'll take what you have. They are going for $142.00 everywhere else. Sal's Tank virus is spreading like wildfire! Do you want me to go ahead and send a check? I need a ss sleeve for a 113h too while were at it.

Thank You Alan!
for the great deal on the Tank kit and ss sleeve. Your check is on the way my friend.

Alan,
Do you have any more T4NK kits left I think I am going to put another one together?
Respectfully,
Troy

all out.  i bought a couple of thousand dollars worth of frames a few years ago at a little discount, but that discount was eaten up when tax and shipping were added.  i could order a kit for you, but there would be almost no savings by the time tax and shipping were added back in.  one of the disadvantages of not having a business license.   :-\

No worries Alan,
I will hold off till I can get one off ebay. They are great little outfits, I have 2 already. If u had to recommend a 2 speed reel with 35 pounds of drag that could be used for grouper, snapper, and jigging what would u go with. I like narrow frame reels due to long days and using heavy baits.
Troy

for 500 yards of 80# spectra or 400 yards of 100#, i'd go with the penn international 12 vsx.  it's one of my favorites. 

Man, these frames are getting harder to find in red.   just paid $90 just for a red Tiburon frame (T4N) for a Penn 113H 4/0 off EBay.   Yikes!  Had to do it cause I was spending more in gas driving around town from tackle store to tackle store.

If anybody sees a red standard frame for a 114H, please let me know.

charkbait has them listed on their web site for $94

Thanks for the info, but I've been there done that.  Charkbait only has the T60NK in red.   No standard width T60 frames in red.  I called Tiburon and they don't plan on doing a batch in red for awhile, so I've been checking out the stocks of the local shops. I already have a 114H narrowed in red already.   I wanted to keep the other 6/0 in the standard width.  I think I saw some red wide frames for the 6/0 (T60W) at Charkbait.  It seems there is a shortage of red ones because Sal's TANK virus is very contagious.

Do you have a silver p20 left please?

Quote from: Sam on October 28, 2013, 12:40:16 PM
Do you have a silver p20 left please?

look on page one of this post. p20 is for the jigmaster and it looks like some r RTG.

Check with Gregg Chow at chowderpuff7@yahoo.com. He carries both Newell and Penn Tiburon Frames.

Newell nut, tryed greg chow but he wont ship to Australia.
Cheers

No offense Dwight, But Chowderpuff seems a little pricey to me.

Have you tried Charkbait? The other option is to watch ebay until something comes along. Ebay is funny at times. I watched for 6 months for a 540 3.2 and then there was several listed. Same thing with 3.6 gears lately. Long dry spell and then a bunch show up.

Ok Will have a look at charkbait
Thanks

I heard a rumor Tiburon is doing another run of super 6 frames.........

I have a gold Accuframe narrow and Gold narrow spool (very clean ) that I would be willing to part with for a red or black narrow spool along with 60 dollars.

Or if anyone has a narrow spool for sale ??

pics?

Quote from: Bunnlevel Sharker on October 31, 2013, 12:41:42 PM
I heard a rumor Tiburon is doing another run of super 6 frames.........

I doubt it, the 6/0 WEX has more line capacity.
The Super 6 is 3 1/2" wide
The WEX is 3 3/4" wide.

I meant the wex, i never new there was a difference

I didn't know they were out of those :-\.

I thought the WEX only came as a kit.

I got a hint that were running more frames, I was told black marlin special

Quote from: Shark Hunter on October 31, 2013, 08:15:13 PM
I thought the WEX only came as a kit.

And you were correct!

The P60 WEX is not for the faint of heart. I only know one other guy with one and that is Sal!
The spool and frame kit are over $200. This is a step up from the Black Marlin Special.
I have Alan Chui's Hex gears on the way for mine. its not a super 6. Its a Sick 6! ;)

Oh ok, I understand now. So is the wex a frame or a post set? How much line will it hold? I know the black marlin takes 800 of 50

The P60 WEX comes with a Frame, clamp kit and spool. The frame is thicker than their regular frames and the spool is 1/2" wider than a super 6. Not sure about the line capacity. I have mine packed full of 80lb mono.

Ok thanks, i am going to look into one possibly

I got mine from reely gone. It was suppose to be the last silver kit in his inventory. He is still showing silver available on his website. It was $229! shipped. :o

I have a red tiburon 4ex frame and spool for sale asking $250 + shipping for it for more info contact mike at 3616736053

Do you mean a T4W? for a 113HLW?

It's the ex wide broadbill special measures 3-1/8" wide

Daron, I think this frame makes up a Wex. Sal has posted his somewhere here before.

A WEX is a P-60 and it measures 3 1/2" wide. Its for a 114H, That broadbill is for a 113H.

Got it. Thanks

Quote from: Shark Hunter on November 01, 2013, 11:17:22 PM
The P60 WEX is not for the faint of heart. I only know one other guy with one and that is Sal!
The spool and frame kit are over $200. This is a step up from the Black Marlin Special.
I have Alan Chui's Hex gears on the way for mine. its not a super 6. Its a Sick 6! ;)

The P60W is for the 114HLW

The P60WEX have the exact dimensions of the Newell Black Marlin Special

The T4W is for the 113HLW

I am not sure what they call Tiburons Newell Broadbill Special's version. T4WEX ????

The P60-WEX is a different Animal. The frame and spool are much beefier than a Black Marlin Newell.
I'm not knocking Newell's, The Newell Nut might come after me. :P
I'm just glad I got my WEX when I did. ;)

I am mostly a Newell Nut but I do have some very special Penns from the master in my collection too. Beefier for sure. ;)

I agree with you on which kit is stronger.
I'm just clarifying that the WEX replaces the Black Marlin special in size (spool width).
Line capacities are the same, of course, the WEX weighs a tad bit more.
I have a couple of each of the BMS and WEX's and they can be bought for the right price! :)

I need a P21 I believe for a standard 501 body. Is the list updated? Available? LMK. thank you.

This is the one you need Randy. It fits the 501/506.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Tiburon-P21-Reel-Frame-Penn-Jigmaster-506-501-Senator-1-0-Newell-P322-NEW-/201177208247?pt=US_Taxidermy&hash=item2ed71895b7

Ebay hmmmmm.  thank you though.

That particular seller is a stand up guy. He is well known around here. I am not affiliated.

Good to know.


But now I'm confused as he has a spool showing that is used in conjunction with a P21 to narrow a 501.

I don't remember buying a spool last time. But that was an AccuFrame.

Do I need a spool too?

Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 30, 2014, 08:41:31 AM
That particular seller is a stand up guy. He is well known around here. I am not affiliated.

X2

Quote from: Rancanfish on September 30, 2014, 02:18:00 PM

But now I'm confused as he has a spool showing that is used in conjunction with a P21 to narrow a 501.

I don't remember buying a spool last time. But that was an AccuFrame.

Do I need a spool too?

The P-21 is just the frame, you will need a Penn 29L-501 or a Tiburon P-21S spool.

Here's a link to Tiburon.

http://www.tiburonfishingreels.com/jigmaster (http://www.tiburonfishingreels.com/jigmaster)

Quote from: Rancanfish on September 30, 2014, 02:18:00 PM
Good to know.


But now I'm confused as he has a spool showing that is used in conjunction with a P21 to narrow a 501.

I don't remember buying a spool last time. But that was an AccuFrame.

Do I need a spool too?

If you have a stock 501. It is already narrow. Its just a narrow 500. The 506 is the narrow high speed version. Your stock spool will fit.

Thanks guys. But now I have anotherr question. I heard there were some probs w/ Tiburon machining regarding the reel seat clamp spacing.

Oh wait the ad says it comes with the clamp.

Think I'm good.

Got anything that will fit and international 20?

Quote from: TechTeach2530 on October 03, 2014, 03:47:40 PM
Got anything that will fit and international 20?

Call Tiburon. They make runs of them every few years or so.  http://www.tiburonfishingreels.com/international

Need a frame for a 113HLW. I see they are a little over $90 on the site thought I would try here first.
***Update: Got one. Thanks***

Alan is sold out but go to extreme coast forums under classifieds there is 2 black 4/wide frames

Send a pm and it will help me to not forget.

By chance anymore silver 113h frames left?

I will gladly take a T12 frame if you still have them available.

Please let me know how to get one.

Thanks

Doug
Captain Hook

no topless frames, but i think i have an original penn frame somewhere. 

Hi alan or any other penn expert,

Can you tell me what the benefit of the topless frame, and what other upgrades would you recommend for a senator 6/0h. I have drag washers and Delrin from smooth drag.
Thanks Ben

I know that this information is somewhere on this site, but let's recap for you because I too cannot find it.

Aluminum Frames - Adds rigidity to your reel so there is no twisting under higher drag settings. Twisting of the reel can bend a spool shaff, put your gears out of alignment damaging them,...and worst of all, lock up your reel during a fish fight.

Top Bar vs. Topless - I have found that if you are casting, it is possible the line exiting the spool may slap the top bar of the reel, slowing the line down, not the spool leading to the famous professional overruns (birds nest, backlash,...).  I do know that there are several fisher that like the topless frames so that when the fish is near and below the boat, they are able to palm the spool to pull the fish up for gaffing.  This can be difficult with a top bar.

I'm sure others have their comments as well...hope this somewhat clears up the top bar vs. topless issue for you.

The main benefit to a topless frame is access to the spool when casting and live-bait fishing.  It's easier to thumb the spool without the top bar and to turn the spool backwards when taking slack out when fishing live bait.  My YTS is topless and my 6/0 has a top bar.  Topless wasn't available when I got the 6/0 frame or I would've gotten a topless frame for it too.

I would only go topless on a narrow 6/0.

I love those narrow 6/0s...but the conversion kit is quite expensive.  I think the kit is at least $200

Quote from: Alto Mare on January 30, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
I would only go topless on a narrow 6/0.

I would NEVER go topless...!  :o   ;D

~A~

Quote from: Aiala on January 30, 2015, 05:00:20 PM

Quote from: Alto Mare on January 30, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
I would only go topless on a narrow 6/0.

I would NEVER go topless...!  :o   ;D

~A~

:D :D...never say never ;D.

Quote from: Aiala on January 30, 2015, 05:00:20 PM

Quote from: Alto Mare on January 30, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
I would only go topless on a narrow 6/0.

I would NEVER go topless...!  :o   ;D

~A~

Really, bathing must be 'challenging' at your home!

Quote from: Alto Mare on January 30, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
I would only go topless on a narrow 6/0.

Yes, it's not an issue for me as I only use it for trolling.  The frame is stronger/stiffer with the top bar and given that I have it dangling from trolling straps, that's a good thing.  But still, I'd probably rather have it topless... guys like topless!

Quote from: MarkT on January 30, 2015, 06:26:24 PM

Quote from: Alto Mare on January 30, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
I would only go topless on a narrow 6/0.

Yes, it's not an issue for me as I only use it for trolling.  The frame is stronger/stiffer with the top bar and given that I have it dangling from trolling straps, that's a good thing.  But still, I'd probably rather have it topless... guys like topless!

Tiburon realized that it's not a good idea on their wide frames to go topless.
Topless at times will get you in trouble...and I mean both ;)

Quote from: MarkT on January 30, 2015, 06:23:48 PM
Really, bathing must be 'challenging' at your home!

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s50/kimber47/Smileys/naughty-1.gif)

~A~

VERY cute Aiala.  ;D ;D

Does changing out a 6/0 standard for a narrow topless and spool kit reduce the weight by much.
Or Am I better just using for a 4/0 and making it topless
. Thanks

Quote from: Ballsie1 on February 04, 2015, 10:20:41 AM
Does changing out a 6/0 standard for a narrow topless and spool kit reduce the weight by much.
Or Am I better just using for a 4/0 and making it topless
. Thanks

It's all about line capacity and application. Lots of folks like the narrows for jigging and such. If that's your intention then I would narrow it up. Either the 4/0 or the 6/0 narrow is a killer reel!! If line capacity is the issue then narrow is not the way to go.IMO.
Bob

by the time we get down to a narrowed frame and spool, we are far past practical, reasonable or logical.  a basic 6/0 will work just fine.  a narrowed 6/0 becomes a personal statement.  it basically says that your could have purchased a two speed reel, but you would rather be the only guy on the boat with a narrow 6/0!  ;D

Quote from: alantani on February 05, 2015, 10:45:16 AM
by the time we get down to a narrowed frame and spool, we are far past practical, reasonable or logical.  a basic 6/0 will work just fine.  a narrowed 6/0 becomes a personal statement.  it basically says that your could have purchased a two speed reel, but you would rather be the only guy on the boat with a narrow 6/0!  ;D

Why would we need any 2 speeds Alan. You bring a big bag of reels for us to use  ::) ::) ::) Never mind I see your point  ;D

Does the T60 use the stock spool, does it come with the reel clamp?

If it does I might buy 2 if still available.

One for a 114H and the other a 114HL.

Let me know.

it won't be until next week when i'll be able to take a look.  got a brutal stretch of work coming up this week. 

Quote from: alantani on February 14, 2015, 11:35:53 PM
it won't be until next week when i'll be able to take a look.  got a brutal stretch of work coming up this week. 

I'm interested in what you have available for the 113H as well.  No rush though

Quote from: alantani on February 14, 2015, 11:35:53 PM
it won't be until next week when i'll be able to take a look.  got a brutal stretch of work coming up this week. 

Thanks Alan. Standing by. No rush.

i know this is a bit of a zombie thread, but are there still any of the P21 frames for 501 available?

Im looking for the T60.  Any left?  Thanks!

Anything left for Squidder 140 or 145?  Thanks.

Quote from: Decker on April 28, 2016, 12:59:01 PM
Anything left for Squidder 140 or 145?  Thanks.

Joe, if Bryan can't help you, try Randy (Vintage Offshore Tackle)... he always has an extensive inventory. ;)

~A~

Quote from: Aiala on April 28, 2016, 02:43:27 PM

Quote from: Decker on April 28, 2016, 12:59:01 PM
Anything left for Squidder 140 or 145?  Thanks.

Joe, if Bryan can't help you, try Randy (Vintage Offshore Tackle)... he always has an extensive inventory. ;)

~A~

In fact, I happen to know that Randy is at Tiburon today - he's picking up a frame for me for my Cortez Conversions 113h!

Bryan, I think that you are on the road and I apologize for sidetracking your post, but if I sell any of Tiburon components that you might have sold, I will buy yours from you at retail.

To anyone who is looking for Tiburon frames, spools, handles, rod clamps, etc for Penn or Newell reels, please call me at 805-748-9202 in the next three hours.  I will be at Tiburon until at least noon California time today.

Thanks,

Randy

Quote from: sdlehr on April 28, 2016, 02:47:52 PM
In fact, I happen to know that Randy is at Tiburon today - he's picking up a frame for me for my Cortez Conversions 113h!

For me, too!   :D

~A~

Thank you, all, for the swift replies and contact info!  I'm honestly not ready to pull the trigger... though a Tiburon conversion is a much cheaper solution to a mid-life crisis than a Corvette. :)   If there are any scratched, scuffed, or otherwise not badly battered ones around for a Squidder 140 or 145, it would get my bargain hunting instincts going...

Do you have any frames left

I'll have to check with Alan. Sorry.

Ok thanks