Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn International Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: TheReelShop on January 01, 2016, 02:16:47 AM

Title: 50SW International
Post by: TheReelShop on January 01, 2016, 02:16:47 AM
 Here goes.

Schematic https://www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/schematics/50sw.pdf (https://www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/schematics/50sw.pdf)

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Taken apart into its 4 main parts Left side plate (27), Right side plate (1), Frame (183), Quadrant ring (2)

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I STARTED WITH THE LEFT SIDE PLATE ASSEMBLY  AND REMOVED THE BEARING TO CLEAN, DRY, AND RE-GREASE.

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COMPLETED AND SET TO THE SIDE

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ON TO THE FRAME

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THE REEL SEAT SCREWS WERE GREASED PRIOR BUT NONETHELESS, GETTING CLEANED AND RE-GREASED.

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ROD CLAMP STUDS WERE DRY BUT CAME OUT WITH EASE

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GREASING ALL SCREW HOLES IN THE REEL SEAT AND STUD HOLES FROM THE FRAME.

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COMPLETED!!

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NOW ON TO THE RIGHT SIDE PLATE ASSEMBLY

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REMOVE IN ORDER.....HANDLE LOCK SCREW (110), AND HANDLE LOCKING PLATE (110A), HANDLE SCREW (23), HANDLE, GEAR STUD COVER (50),

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TO REMOVE THE MAIN GEAR ASSEMBLY WE NEED TO REMOVE OR TURN TO THE SIDE BOTH GEAR RETAINERS (173)

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ONCE THE RETAINERS ARE SLID TO THE SIDE OR REMOVED, WE THEN REMOVE THE MAIN GEAR ASSEMBLY. TO DO THIS I GRABBED A NAIL AND PRESSED IN ON THE PLUNGER (171) . SIMULTANEOUSLY PUSH DOWN ON THE GEAR STUD (134) AND IT WILL COME RIGHT OUT.

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DISASSEMBLED (THE PLUNGER SPRING IS STILL INSIDE THE GEAR STUD.

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CLEANED AND READY FOR RE ASSEMBLY

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HERE I WAS GOING TO SEPERATE TO CLEAN BUT NOTICED THAT THE SCREWS HERE ARE NOTCHED AND UNREMOVABLE AT LEAST TO MY IMPRESSION SO I LEFT THEM AS IS.

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MAIN GEAR (5H) GOING IN

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GEAR STUD SPRING (18B) GREASED AND GOING IN

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PLUNGER (171) GREASED AND GOING IN

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TIME TO REMOVE RIGHT SIDE SIDE PLATE BEARING AND SERVICE.

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TIME TO SERVICE THE CAM ASSEMBLY. REMOVE COVER SCREWS (39A), CAM HOUSING (124), ECCENTRIC LEVER (21)

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THEN THE ACTUAL CAM ASSEMBLY (FROM RIGHT OUTSIDE TO LEFT INSIDE) CAM THRUST WASHER (4), ECCENTRIC CAM (19), CAM FOLLOWER (141), CAM FOLLOWER PINS 2 OF THEM (142), AND ADJUSTING SCREW (143)

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PRACTICALLY BARE RIGHT SIDE PLATE

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REASSEMBLE EVERYTHING BACK AFTER YOU HAVE APPLIED GREASE

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FOR THIS I SET THE ADJUSTING SCREW ALL THE WAY TO LESS (THE PRESET KNOB SAYS MORE OR LESS AND IT WAS SET TO LESS TO INSTALL THE ECCENTRIC LEVER)

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INSTALL MAIN GEAR ASSEMBLY. SAME AS REMOVAL PRESS IN THE PLUNGER WITH A NAIL AND PUSH IN AT THE SAME TIME.

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SLIDE OVER BACK IN PLACE THE GEAR RETAINERS. THE POINTS OF THE RETAINERS NEED TO BE IN THE CENTER.

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DO THE REVERSE OF WHEN YOU REMOVED

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BEFORE INSTALLING THE HANDLE SCREW I DISASSEMBLE BY REMOVING THE C-CLIP AND GREASING WITH CORROSION X

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THE LOCATING PINS ON THIS REEL WERE STUCK AND SO I REMOVED THEM, CLEANED AND GREASED WITH CORROSION X. ONE OF THEM WAS STILL STUCK DESPITE THE GREASING SO I REMOVED IT AGAIN AND FINELY SANDED IT DOWN AND ALL WORKS WELL!!

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RIGHT SIDE COMPLETED

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ON TO THE SPOOL.
I LEFT THE SPOOL FOR LAST BECAUSE THIS REEL CAME WITH STOCK DRAG WASHERS WHICH WERE NOT EITHER HT-100 OR DURA DRAG. I ORDERED A SMOOTH DRAG KIT AND UNFORTUNATELY ITS THE SAME MATERIAL AND QUITE DISAPPOINTED I WENT AHEAD AND COMPLETED THE SPOOL AND SHAFT TO STOCK CONFIGURATIONS UNTIL I GET SOME EXTRA CASH OR RESELL THIS ONE.

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MY BEARING PULLER TOOL!! HAHA

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GREASED BOTH SIDES OF THE SPOOL

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INSERT INNER DRAG PLATE

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FLOATING DRAG (7A) AND SPRING

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OUTER DRAG THEN TIGHTEN DOWN WITH THE THE DRAG COVER (156)

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GREASED THE SHAFT AND BELLVILLES AND LEFT EVERYTHING IN STOCK CONFIGURATION

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GREASE PINION GEAR AFTER THE SHAFT IS INSERTED (NO SPECIFIC ORDER ITS JUST HOW I DID IT)

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PLACE THE WHOLE SPOOL IN THE FRAME AND LEFT SIDE PLATE (FIRST I ASSEMBLED THE LEFT SIDE PLATE AND FRAME TOGETHER, THEN INSERTED THE SPOOL ASSEMBLY). THEN PLACE THE RIGHT SIDE AND SCREW BACK ON. AFTER SCREW DOWN THE SIDE PLATE AND THEN INSTALL THE QUADRANT RING AND YOUR DONE.

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THIS WAS PRETTY LENGTHY JOB BUT IT WAS FUN. THANKS ALAN FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THIS IS WHY I LEARNED WHAT I DID. FROM YOU AND THE REST OF THE REAL GUYS HERE.

HOPE THIS HELPS OTHERS.


"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"










Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: coastal_dan on January 24, 2017, 05:52:39 PM
Ive read this tutorial about 5x...many thanks!  This should be a sticky, understandably its basically the same as the 30SW but nice to read it for a specific reel.

I hope you got a wrench for this one!  The photos and documentation all while wearing latex gloves certainly isn't easy!
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Dominick on January 24, 2017, 07:28:26 PM
Great job.  I'm sure Alan will send you a wrench when he reads the thread.  I stickied it as it is clear and concise with great photos.  Keep up the good work.  Dominick
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Tightlines667 on January 24, 2017, 11:16:45 PM
Nice work!

Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Alto Mare on January 25, 2017, 12:17:27 AM
Excellent job!
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: TheReelShop on February 17, 2017, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: coastal_dan on January 24, 2017, 05:52:39 PM
Ive read this tutorial about 5x...many thanks!  This should be a sticky, understandably its basically the same as the 30SW but nice to read it for a specific reel.

I hope you got a wrench for this one!  The photos and documentation all while wearing latex gloves certainly isn't easy!

Quote from: Dominick on January 24, 2017, 07:28:26 PM
Great job.  I'm sure Alan will send you a wrench when he reads the thread.  I stickied it as it is clear and concise with great photos.  Keep up the good work.  Dominick

Quote from: Tightlines666 on January 24, 2017, 11:16:45 PM
Nice work!



Quote from: Alto Mare on January 25, 2017, 12:17:27 AM
Excellent job!

Thanks Guys appreciate it. Yes Alan sent me a wrench and this being stickied is really appreciated.
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: STRIPER LOU on February 17, 2017, 06:27:10 PM
Terrific Job! Almost infinite detail. Thanks for posting.
................Lou
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: handi2 on February 18, 2017, 12:01:47 AM
Excellent fully detailed tutorial.

To remove the spool bearings just use the spool shaft or nutdriver to push them out.

To remove the left side plate bearing whack the side plate on a cloth covered table. If it still doesn't want to come out heat the outer side with a heat gun and whack it again. It will fall out.

Don't be so neat and clean :D

Keith
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Dominick on February 18, 2017, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: handi2 on February 18, 2017, 12:01:47 AM


Don't be so neat and clean :D

Keith
Keith is right, neat and clean is a sign of a sick mind.   ;) ::) Dominick
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: reel man on February 18, 2017, 07:40:01 PM
Great tutorial with very understandable language.

Cal makes a threaded tool to hold the plunger down.  The pins have to go in in the correct position with the pointy ends facing outboard.

I think on my 50SW there is a plastic gasket under the reel base.  Would have to consult the exploded parts view to see if that was an upgrade.
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: mizmo67 on February 18, 2017, 07:50:46 PM
Neat and clean makes for nice tutorial pics, though!
Well done and concise.
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: TheReelShop on February 19, 2017, 04:51:20 PM
Quote from: Dominick on February 18, 2017, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: handi2 on February 18, 2017, 12:01:47 AM


Don't be so neat and clean :D

Keith
Keith is right, neat and clean is a sign of a sick mind.   ;) ::) Dominick
Quote from: handi2 on February 18, 2017, 12:01:47 AM
Excellent fully detailed tutorial.


hahaha!!. you guys have a messier station! i thought this was bad.

To remove the spool bearings just use the spool shaft or nutdriver to push them out.

To remove the left side plate bearing whack the side plate on a cloth covered table. If it still doesn't want to come out heat the outer side with a heat gun and whack it again. It will fall out.

Don't be so neat and clean :D

Keith


I have done this post this tutorial. Doing and learning.
And I thought i had a mess. I promise I'm not sick minded!  ;D
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Donnyboat on June 18, 2017, 08:33:06 PM
Really good, thanks for sharing, deserved to be stickied alright, cheers Don.
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Mjg378 on October 08, 2017, 11:19:54 PM
Thank you very much for posting this.  Between Alan's AWSOME 30sw Post and this Detailed! 50sw power point from thereelshop. I was easily able to completely service my penn international 30sw!!  Thank you again for sharing! 
Can't wait to give it a go. 
Memphis Mike
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: gary999 on October 18, 2017, 12:38:25 AM
Thanks for posting! I have culled my trolling reels to have only II 50 wides, one being a 2 speed. I bought a used V 50 VSW then looked at the tutorial then swapped it for a II. Too old to learn new tricks...

The notched screws on the main gear are to keep them from backing out. They appear to just be dimpled with a punch. I had one back out while fishing off shore on a Penn I and the screw jammed the reel. Not a bad mod to make maybe.

Again thanks for the post!
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Tightlines667 on October 18, 2017, 01:55:21 AM
Quote from: gary999 on October 18, 2017, 12:38:25 AM
Thanks for posting! I have culled my trolling reels to have only II 50 wides, one being a 2 speed. I bought a used V 50 VSW then looked at the tutorial then swapped it for a II. Too old to learn new tricks...

The notched screws on the main gear are to keep them from backing out. They appear to just be dimpled with a punch. I had one back out while fishing off shore on a Penn I and the screw jammed the reel. Not a bad mod to make maybe.

Again thanks for the post!

I use loctite on those screws, because they can and do occasionally back out.

John
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Donnyboat on October 18, 2017, 03:00:48 AM
I cant believe how clean, this reel frame was where the foot screwed to the reel frame, is that a stainless steel foot, against alloy frame, also has anyone tried a grease called anti seize in this area, if so, what was the result after a couple of years, I know it works well on  exsternal tractor part, such as where you adjust the side sway on three point linkages, but that is steel against cast steel, not SS against alloy, great post thanks, cheers Don.
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: TheReelShop on October 23, 2017, 12:17:43 AM
Thank you guys for the positive feedback I appreciate it!! That reel overall was in good condition. I purchased it from eBay too!. I ended up selling the reel so I cannot give feedback as too how the reel foot is now, but I feel greasing the surface and then installing the reel foot should help big time! I will see if I get another model international and see if I can do a tutorial on it.
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Miles Offshore on January 05, 2019, 01:38:50 PM
Great job, thanks for taking the time to document and photograph it. ill be using this when i take apart my 50sw's!
Title: Re: 50SW International
Post by: Dominick on January 05, 2019, 08:36:10 PM
Donny, I am under the impression the the "anti Cease" products out there will eat away at the anodizing.  I trust that someone will chime in with an answer.  Dominick