So I am new to the Penn program and I see many names that have conflicting definitions online. It would be helpful to have a break down of what make what.
Example:
Yellowtail Special
Wahoo Special
Grouper Special
Baja Special
Frame Size, Spool size, gear ratio's etc... Is there a place to glean this info in one place?
Thanks!
Andy
These are all modifications of Senators.
Some wide, some narrow, different spools and parts can make any of these.
You have to do your homework. ;)
Yellowtail Special= Carl Newell kit that turned a Penn 4/0 Special Senator (113H, red) into a 66 width reel (made it narrower)
Wahoo Special = Carl Newell kit that turned a Penn 349 into a wider reel (I believe the same width as a Yellowtail Special)
Grouper Special= A reel developed on this board that uses a Yellowtail Special stand to let a 4/0 Senator (113, black) into a narrower and slightly faster reel using Longbeach 66 parts
Baja Special= Penns version of a Yellowtail Special with a few updates.
There are other Newell kits and things you can do with Penn conventional reels, but those are what you asked for. As far as the particulars, you will have to search this forum, I don't have the three lifetimes it would take to write those text books.
Ron
From the sunset side of Oahu
Homework done by Ron. ;)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 15, 2016, 07:34:05 AM
Homework done by Ron. ;)
How anyone can just spout this stuff off from the top of their head just amazes me... I'm in awe.
Sid
Sid, being a Vet I'll bet you can spout off the top off your head what meds it takes to cure numerous animals, right. RUDY
So from what I am reading it is really a Newell thing, not a Penn thing. Perhaps I have been looking in the wrong places. I will start researching Newell instead. Thank you! I think that I will make recipe cards for each and post the results!
It's also an Accurate thing, a Tiburon thing, etc. It's not just one manufacturer. Newell may have made some of the first (maybe) or the parts for them, but others produced them also. Many were made with Penn parts, such as a 99 Jigmaster. Making a YTS with 66 parts is possible. The Newell, Accurate, Tiburon version is just an improvement
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 15, 2016, 07:34:05 AM
Homework done by Ron. ;)
Not all of it! But a good start! Thanks
The YTS was in fact made by Newell originally. You can't make a YTS as Carl made it with a 66 because a true YTS has 4.0:1 SS gears. Yes, you can use newer frames to build these but they are still making Newells creation.
Steelhead_killer,
If you go looking for Newell stuff you will find Newell reels, wich are different than the special kits made with Penn parts. You're in the correct place, just keep reading.
Ron
Don't forget about ProGear's YellowTail Special and Wahoo Special.
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/SoCalAngler1/IMG_0391%202_zps7h3e2y08.jpg)
The YTS name was being used by others so when Penn came out with their narrow 4/0 they called theirs the Baja Special. With their latest narrow 4/0 being the USA Senator 113HN
Quote from: RowdyW on January 15, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
Sid, being a Vet I'll bet you can spout off the top off your head what meds it takes to cure numerous animals, right. RUDY
Sure, Rudy. After almost 30 years I can do that in my sleep. Point well taken. I've said elsewhere, patience, especially with myself, is something I have to work at.
Sid
The Baja Special is a stock reel from Penn. I sold mine to Wayne after I got the Tank. Dominick
Quote from: Dominick on January 16, 2016, 05:58:12 AM
The Baja Special is a stock reel from Penn. I sold mine to Wayne after I got the Tank. Dominick
And that was a good call in my not so humble opinion
Ron
Quote from: Dominick on January 16, 2016, 05:58:12 AM
The Baja Special is a stock reel from Penn. I sold mine to Wayne after I got the Tank. Dominick
Dominick!
Using the word SOLD is being generous on your behalf. You accepted enough cash not to look like you were giving it away & right now that Baja Special is sitting at my feet as I wait to board my flight to Cabo!
All that & I come over to your home several times a week to enjoy YOUR red wine!
You my friend ARE a true & generous man!
Wayne
Quote from: Dominick on January 16, 2016, 05:58:12 AM
The Baja Special is a stock reel from Penn. I sold mine to Wayne after I got the Tank. Dominick
The Baja Special (was) a stock reel from Penn and there was 2 generations of that reel. Penn discontinued that line and came out with the third generation which is the US Senator 113N.
I'm not trying to dis the Tank but I have yet to see a picture of a fish worthy in size being landed by a reel called the Tank. Time will tell and I hope it does land many fish worthy enough to show it really is a tank.
Dom has landed some nice marlin on the Tank. What exactly are you looking for?
Ron
Like I said I'm not trying to dis the Tank, and let me also say I'm not trying to dis Dom the owner or the builder of the reel if it was not Dom.
Baja Strip Marlin are not really what I was thinking as a worthy enough fish, a Blue Marlin, Thresher mouth hooked, Baja's grouper over 60 lbs, big Pargo on the structor/rocks, tuna 80 lbs or larger and alike would offer a more true test for a reel called the Tank, IMO.
I'm not trying to brag or act all puffed up but I catch Baja Stripe Marlin and Sailfish on 40 lb test just about every year when I'm in Baja. Granted I fish north of Cabo where Dom caught the stripers but those Marlin are around the same size in both areas. I don't fish a "tank reel" and for me 40 lb test that I fish isn't worthy of Tank status.
I mainly fish from a 21' center console or on pangas so no fighting chair, rails to rest the rod against or harnesses being worn. It is true stand up fishing like I'm sure Dom and others know about.
All I was trying to say is I look forward to pics or reports of the Tank living up to it's name with many fish worthy enough to give it the tank a full workout.
Anyways back to the original topic...
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Quote from: steelhead_killer on January 17, 2016, 01:44:17 AM
Anyways back to the original topic...
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Funny pic!
I've worked with Mexican carpenters/cabinetmakers in California who use that setup as a routing station.
There work is great!
What ever gets the job done! I am a fan of repurposing... :)
hi socalangler
im on a different wave length to you.
to me its not about the size of the fish
its about the upgraded components that went into the reel
its made the "tank" smoother ,stronger,better looking,
compared to the original one
you could call it bill or george or wallace
anything but tank
for a star drag reel its not bad
friend of mine caught a 60kg black marlin on a tld5
loaded with 4kg line,thats a big fish,but tld5 is not a tank
depends on your own concept
cheers
Words of Wisdom from my Man Wallace. ;)
I haven't caught anything worthy with my Tanks, only because I have not fished them.
I just know I like building them. ;D
Narrow, Standard and Wide.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm11/ddyer2/IMG_3209_zps788lqjqr.jpg) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/ddyer2/media/IMG_3209_zps788lqjqr.jpg.html)
This 6' Bull was caught with a bone stock 113H from the Beach.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/Jerome2_zps9a116893.jpg)
Quote from: El Pescador on January 16, 2016, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: Dominick on January 16, 2016, 05:58:12 AM
The Baja Special is a stock reel from Penn. I sold mine to Wayne after I got the Tank. Dominick
Dominick!
Using the word SOLD is being generous on your behalf. You accepted enough cash not to look like you were giving it away & right now that Baja Special is sitting at my feet as I wait to board my flight to Cabo!
All that & I come over to your home several times a week to enjoy YOUR red wine!
You my friend ARE a true & generous man!
Wayne
:-* :-* :-* Dominick
SK...if you look in the General Procedure board...you will find the Penn Conventional Reel Comparison thread....under the OP's first post there is an Excel spreadsheet that compares most of the conventionals made by Penn....when you get the "Specials" sorted out please send me the mono poundage and capacity for each and I will update the spreadsheet.....Bill.
Right on Wallace! It's not about the size of the fish I catch with a souped up reel. It's about how I feel catching fish with my souped up reel.
Quote from: sdlehr on January 15, 2016, 08:02:00 AMHow anyone can just spout this stuff off from the top of their head just amazes me... I'm in awe.
Sid
It's a "sickness" . . . I mean an "obsession" . . . Err, a "hobby" ( Yeah, that's the ticket ) . . . LOL ! ! !