Has anyone serviced the Canyon reel? I have a HS-15 and it looks very similar to the Avet reel.
Joe
What ??? Has anybody heard of a Canyon reel? Am I going to be the first one to give a service demo ??? :-\
Joe
i worked on one quite a while ago, did a whole photo shoot and just could not get the thing to work right. i'm guessing he just sent one that was buggy, but it was really frustrating because i really wanted to give the guy a good review.
I've been in a couple. Nothing sticks out in my memory. Basic lever drag with heavy duty parts.
I have no personal experience with them, but the way Canyon Reels dealt with Alan Hawk's review is enough to keep me from doing business with with.
http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/cny65.html
Quote from: Three se7ens on January 19, 2016, 12:35:53 AM
I have no personal experience with them, but the way Canyon Reels dealt with Alan Hawk's review is enough to keep me from doing business with with.
http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/cny65.html
The reel I'm talking about is a HS-15 Lever drag reel. I have had no bad experience with this reel thus far, I was just wondering weather someone serviced one and what they thought of it's construction. I haven't taken my reel apart yet to service it. When I finish my work area station I will break it down and see for myself what it is made of. Ill take pictures.
Joe
Canyon Reels are a Chinese knock off of other reels. Why do the R&D when you can just get some other manufactures reel, rip it off, claim better ratings then fall way short of your claims?
These reels have been talked and posted about for many years, I'm 100% sure it looks like a Avet because that's who they ripped off.
The service should be the same as a Avet SX, MXJ or MXL but don't expect the same result's.
I don't know the history of these Canyon reels, but I have heard enough to steer clear of them.
They look really nice on the outside, but I have not heard anything good from the conventional line up.
Not trying to dis your reel Joe, but I call a spade a spade.
Quote from: SoCalAngler on January 19, 2016, 05:23:52 AM
Canyon Reels are a Chinese knock off of other reels. Why do the R&D when you can just get some other manufactures reel, rip it off, claim better ratings then fall way short of your claims?
These reels have been talked and posted about for many years, I'm 100% sure it looks like a Avet because that's who they ripped off.
The service should be the same as a Avet SX, MXJ or MXL but don't expect the same result's.
First of all, I was asking a question not promoting the Canyon reel, secondly I had no knowledge of where the Canyon reels are produced this the first reel I have bought from Canyon. I am sorry if I offended anyone with this question, it was perfectly innocent on my part....don't shoot the messenger!!
I thought I could ask a question and get a simple answer that's all. As a veteran I want to buy American when ever possible and I have show that by participating on this site and purchasing items from members on site.
Joe
no, joe, it's a fair question.
Maybe someone else has experience with these.
I am not offended Joe, and I didn't mean to offend you.
Its all good Buddy.
Thank you guys, like I said I will break down the reel when I get the chance. To many coals in the fire right now.
Joe
Joe, just because it's a knock off doesn't mean it wont do the job. I have an Omoto Poseidon S12II that I got a couple of years ago. Heavy, not much line capacity, tons of drag and built pretty well. I paid $100.00 for it and when it breaks, if I can't find the parts to fix it it will become a paper weight. Please post the break down of your Canyon reel.
BT
I will Tim. It looks like ill have plenty of time with this snow coming >:(. I bought this reel for Ruth and made a rod to match it for Fluke fishing.
Joe
Quote from: Reel 224 on January 22, 2016, 04:15:53 AM
I will Tim. It looks like ill have plenty of time with this snow coming >:(. I bought this reel for Ruth and made a rod to match it for Fluke fishing.
Joe
Alan gave me the Canyon reel to play with to learn and to see if I could make it better. I've broken down and reassembled the reel about a dozen times for learning sake and to try one thing or another to make the reel better. I have yet found a combo of stuff to make it worth posting yet but a lot has changed over the years since I started with this reel. I'll get to it shortly.
Joe
If your canyon has an ailment suggest you send it back to don at canyon Hes usually pretty prompt with repairs and usually free. Or if youve got time they are in Brick NJ
Quote from: bill19803 on January 22, 2016, 06:54:17 AM
Joe
If your canyon has an ailment suggest you send it back to don at canyon Hes usually pretty prompt with repairs and usually free. Or if youve got time they are in Brick NJ
I bought the reel from NJ salt water tackle and Brick,NJ is 20 minutes from my home . I want to service the reel myself, but I know I can always go there.
Joe
Hi Joe,
seems you have one of his first reels - like mine which is thre years old.
The grinding noise is coming from the pinion gear which shifts under load. The reason is that the pinion stacks in the bearing in a plastic bushing which is too soft. I made a bushing from brass and pressed it on the end of the pinion which eleminated the play under load. An the ID of the pinion is too large and the spool shaft has too much play. After every hard fight had to replace the damaged bearing.....
I informed Don accordingly how to solve the problem but have no knowledge if done in newer reels.
The reels will be manufactured in China by company Lead (www.leadfishingreels.com/sdp/718380/4/pl-3737584/0/Product_Catalog.html) and in USA he replaces the bearings, drag plate with a titanium coated plate and adjusts the play of gears and drag with shims. But im sure if he dont measures the ID of the pinion and AD of the spool shaft.
With the little improved reel i had no problems to catch in Indonesia AJ, Bonito and Ruby Snapper in deps up to 200m. This year i have changed to a Torsa16.
Replace the teflon washer (0.75mm) under the lever with 0,3 or 0.5mm metal shim and add one additional belleville. Final adjustment with shims on spool shaft. My reel pimped to 18kg drag without any binding!
Recommend to contact Don to fix the reel with new pinion and bushing made from brass or ss steel. Otherwise you will not have much fun with the reel.
Good Luck
Wolfgang
Well done, Wolli. Finally some clarity about these reels and their origin.
(regarding the pinion ID, it could very well be that since the design is such that the pinion is supported by two bearings, the clearance between pinion and shaft is irrelevant.)
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Yes indeed Wolli that bit of information is very helpful, I will check that out and contact Don to make the change or get the parts.
Joe
@ Robert, im not a technician but i noticed the play not seen in other reels before....
@ Joe, i dissamble my reel tomorrow and take some pics which might be helpful.
the same reel will be sold under different names especially in Asia like Ajiking, Kamikaze, BlackStone Hornet, Tigon. Order a minimum of 50 reels and Lead prints a name of your choice on the reels.... But what i honour is that Don improves the reels with new drag plate, bearings, grease the cf drag with Cal´s etc.
But what about Penn, from where most of their reels are coming....
Watch the difference between the original Chinese scrap drag plate. Already corroded after two weeks fishing in comparison to the replaced titanium coated.... (s.pic)
Wolli
Wolli; I have my hands full with this snow storm, and the bench I'm building with my friend. The bench is were Ill do my reel work and it looks like I will have plenty of time when I finish plowing snow and building my work area. Damn snow is still falling. >:( It will be appreciated if would post pictures.
Joe