Alan,
You ever work on one of these reels? I just bought one off ebay. The CD 65a is the newer current model with the black round knob power handle. Just looking at the body, there are no screws visible on either side. How do you open up the body to get to the gears? The reel also has a "Dual Force Drag system", where there are drag washers in a drag stack on the top side of the spool (like a regular spinner), plus, there is a drag washer on the bottom side of the spool. Going to be interesting when I try to open her up. Thanks.
Charlie
Did the reel come with schematics? If it's not on a sheet, it on one of the flaps on the box. I hate it there because it's so small and hard to read. I cannot find one so it'll be hard for me to help.
scroll down and you will see a list of schematics.
http://www.okuma.com.au/Okumahome/show_one_product.aspx?productgroup=Baitfeeder&titleid=Coronado&iid=234&tech=EOS;DFD;HPB;QuickSet;EFRII;HydroBlock;RESII;CRC;ErgoGrip;HighSpeed;HDGII
Wow, clicked on the link and this is what popped up:
Okuma Lifetime Warranty....
•Rapala Freetime Australia Pty Ltd. warrants Okuma reels for life to the Original purchaser from material and manufacturing defects when these reels have been purchased in Australia from our authorised Dealers.
•We cannot guarantee product that has been sourced directly by the consumer from overseas as these reels may not be manufactured to our strict Australian standards and conditions.
•To claim warranty the consumer will have to send to us proof of purchase detailing the Retail store where he/she purchased the reel.
Wow, LIFETIME WARRANTY
Here in the US, we only get 1 year.
yeah, i was thinking the same thing.
so i would pull the felt drags and install greased carbon fiber. if you are adventurous enough, you can try to pull the bearings and pack them with grease, but i can tell you right now that bait runners are the worst reels in the world to work on.
I was just studying the schematics, and it looks like there is a definitely a build sequence. I am still contemplating how much I am going to do to take my spinner apart. Just looked, I have 16 bearings. Found 2 in the spool. Packed them with grease. Hmm, I'm starting to think twice about serving them....
Thanks guys. I usually like to open up a new reel to make sure it came with enough grease and oil from the factory. But, looks like this one I'll just fish as is and will worry about the servicing later. I also have the Okuma Avenger Baitfeeders and Shimano Baitrunners which I have opened and greased the easy to reach parts and bearings. Too many internal parts in these reels to really take them apart. Thanks again.
hi all, if you want to open the cd65 to get at the gearing, you will have to remove the spool, rotor first, then on the main body just below the reel seat there is a little screw which is holding the rear plastic body cover , once you have removed this all the screws will be visible.if people are interested i will open one up and take photos over the next few days.. i love doing spinning reels.
I come to conclude that I hate servicing my VS series spinners with 16 bearings. What a pain. Took me 3 hours to do the complete service. Bearings everwhere, and the elipitical gear works great, but getting it back together is very difficult. I think the next 5 should go easier since I got the sequence down now.
So, for spinners, with the cost of a service, I think I'd prefer Penns, but man, those VS series Okumas are smooth.
Quote from: reelman-nz on February 14, 2011, 07:14:37 AM
hi all, if you want to open the cd65 to get at the gearing, you will have to remove the spool, rotor first, then on the main body just below the reel seat there is a little screw which is holding the rear plastic body cover , once you have removed this all the screws will be visible.if people are interested i will open one up and take photos over the next few days.. i love doing spinning reels.
Hello reelman-nz,
I haven't followed up to check on this thread until today. Thanks for the instructions on how to open up the cd65 reel. I haven't fished mine yet so not urgent that I open her up. Don't make a special effort, but post a few pics the next time you need to work on your reel. Thanks again.
Drag dimensions is now posted for the 65 sized spool.
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 12, 2011, 08:08:50 AM
Drag dimensions is now posted for the 65 sized spool.
where?
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=1628.0
It uses the same size as the Cedros 65
nice looking reel. very clean lines, no frills.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/4/1_03_06_11_9_59_41.jpeg)
Thanks for the info Bryan.
After hours of research it appears that okuma may use the same part number for spinning felt drag washers for most of there spinners.
I found that they all use part number 610
This seems to be the case with all reel sizes from 20-90.
These reels have the 610 washers.
Avenger
Cedros
Epix
Coronado
Salina
Eclipz
Travertine
Lexan
and probably more models
It also looks like the metal washers in the drag stacks are the same as well, all of them show the same part numbers on the schematics...
The only difference i have seen is the number of felt/metal washers in the stack varies depending on the size of the reel. Size 20's have 1 felt washer and one metal, and the size 90 go up to 5 washers....
I haven't pulled my avenger size 40 and 55 apart to compare and measure yet. Once i do i will try and post some pics up of the similarities.
It's quite possible. I just looked for the biggest washer that could fit in each stack. I didn't even bother trying to match up the washers to see if they are the same.
i think we found another set of drag washers for dawn to make.........
Quote from: alantani on June 04, 2011, 10:30:31 PM
i think we found another set of drag washers for dawn to make.........
Alan, I sent Dawn at Smooth Drag the Drag Stack from my Okuma Coronado CD-65 this week. Dawn graciously created a new set of Carbontex washers for me. She is also going to start stocking these washers.
The whole Coronado line uses the same drag washer:
Key - 610 Part number - 26100053
I have also noticed that the Okuma Cedros spinning reels use the same Key & Part Number. Looks like this new Carbontex washer is going to cover a whole lot of reels.
I'll post the installation pics in a new thread.
Lumberjack93
Hi,
Looking for some help. I have a Okuma Coronado CD80a Baitfeeder which got dunked in saltwater & the reel seized up. After opening, I found that the second lower bearing on the vertical worm gear shaft had got jammed after rusting. So I got a replacement (Bearing ( 0910494) from Okuma. They were very kind to ship it to me for free.
However, after I assembled the reel back, I found that the reel would run free in both directions. The small lever to lock it in one direction was not working. Can anyone guide me in resolving this issue. I am located in India & shipping it to the US is out of the question because of the cost.
Regards
Pratap Nair (Cavalier) ::) ::)
i am not up to speed on these small spinners. anyone else?
Quote from: cavalier on June 09, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
Hi,
Looking for some help. I have a Okuma Coronado CD80a Baitfeeder which got dunked in saltwater & the reel seized up. After opening, I found that the second lower bearing on the vertical worm gear shaft had got jammed after rusting. So I got a replacement (Bearing ( 0910494) from Okuma. They were very kind to ship it to me for free.
However, after I assembled the reel back, I found that the reel would run free in both directions. The small lever to lock it in one direction was not working. Can anyone guide me in resolving this issue. I am located in India & shipping it to the US is out of the question because of the cost.
Regards
Pratap Nair (Cavalier) ::) ::)
If it was working before we can get it working again :).
Typically the lever has to fit properly into a corresponding space in the clutch bearing which I think is part #0910352 CD80a. It usually creates some small rotation in the bearing to allow the rollers to bite.
Be sure that it is fitted properly and you should have no trouble.
Quote from: Lumberjack93 on July 18, 2013, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: alantani on June 04, 2011, 10:30:31 PM
i think we found another set of drag washers for dawn to make.........
Alan, I sent Dawn at Smooth Drag the Drag Stack from my Okuma Coronado CD-65 this week. Dawn graciously created a new set of Carbontex washers for me. She is also going to start stocking these washers.
The whole Coronado line uses the same drag washer:
Key - 610 Part number - 26100053
I have also noticed that the Okuma Cedros spinning reels use the same Key & Part Number. Looks like this new Carbontex washer is going to cover a whole lot of reels.
I'll post the installation pics in a new thread.
Lumberjack93
Did you also do the large washer under the spool? I can pull up dimensions from my cad drawings if you need them.
Hi John,
Thanks for the quick revert. There is a small spring which pulls back the ARB back when you toggle the lever. This has gotten bent slightly. Also I had greased the bearing. I read elsewhere on this site that greasing will cause the bearing rollers to stick & freewheel. I will try & clean up again to remove the grease & use light oil. If some one can share a pic of a correctly assembled bearing, it would be a great help. The bearing fell into parts while assembling & I reassembled it by memory.
I guess ,once this is done, rotating the lever to the lock position will cause the rollers to bite & lock the bearing in one direction.
Thanks & Regards
Cavalier
Quote from: cavalier on June 10, 2014, 05:53:08 AM
Hi John,
Thanks for the quick revert. There is a small spring which pulls back the ARB back when you toggle the lever. This has gotten bent slightly. Also I had greased the bearing. I read elsewhere on this site that greasing will cause the bearing rollers to stick & freewheel. I will try & clean up again to remove the grease & use light oil. If some one can share a pic of a correctly assembled bearing, it would be a great help. The bearing fell into parts while assembling & I reassembled it by memory.
I guess ,once this is done, rotating the lever to the lock position will cause the rollers to bite & lock the bearing in one direction.
Thanks & Regards
Cavalier
Light grease is fine in the ARB, just add some oil if it is very heavy grease or becomes sticky. Other than Shimano clutches which have to be left dry the real issue is very old grease in a reel that hasn't been used in a long time. Then, grease can cause any switch to fail as it turns to gum.
Hi John,
Thanks for the advice. Will try over the weekend & hope it works out.
Regards
Cavalier
Thanks guys for the sage advice, it worked.
I stripped the rollers clean & assembled them back after light oiling. The key factor turned out to be the tiny spring connected to the projected lip of the outer race of the roller bearing. When the Anti reverse lever is turned to the lock position, the plastic pin next to the roller bearing lip rotates & frees the bearing outer race. This permits the spring ( extended earlier) to retract ,thereby turning the outer race in a anti clockwise direction. This results in the rollers getting locked & movement of the spool is permitted only in one direction. Hope my explanation is not too confusing
Regards
Cavalier ;D ;D ;D
Very glad to hear you are back in business ;)