This part is available in my online store now.
This is a 2nd generation code name is JM500X 4:1 SS gear set with 6 ears for JigMaster 500/501, 112H and other models.
Here is the price per items.
JM500X 4:1 SS gear set (main and pinion): $55.00
1mm carbon fiber drag washer (3 pcs): $9.00
0.9mm SS keyed metal washer (3 pcs): $7.50
Here are the difference package deals.
Package A: JM500X gear set + CF washers (set) + 0.9mm SS keyed metal washers (set) + derlin under gear washer (Free) = $69.99
Package B: PC98-60 (coarse) or PC98-505 (fine) (10 teeth gear sleeve) + package A = $93.99
Package C: SS eccentric jack + SS yoke + package B = $99.99
Package D: SS double dog bridge + package C = $112.00
Shipping cost is $3.25 per package by USPS First Class Parcel Service within the US.
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/ea07ffe5-f9df-4332-8c39-e148e90e6955_zps1yr40knk.jpg)
:o :o :o
Wow!
Looking good there Alan.
any pics of the drag set ??
Quote from: DaBigOno on January 31, 2016, 01:52:52 AM
Wow!
Looking good there Alan.
any pics of the drag set ??
Not yet. We will have to make a mold and use it to make the carbon washers. We will have to wait for Sal finish testing first before we will make the mold. Sal will have to make those washers by hand for his testing.
Looks good Alan! When you are ready to sell, I need three sets. Then I can finish assembling the 112H and Jigmasters I have in pieces. Thanks for all your efforts.
Charlie
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.
I have a Tuna Special those would fit nicely in.
Ron
Quote from: Hoochrip on February 10, 2016, 12:55:41 AM
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.
Sal did a test on this gear set by using 3 x 1mm thickness carbon drag washers, 2 x 0.5mm keyed metal washers, 1 x 1mm keyed top metal washer with original tension spring from PENN. The result was pushing 30# of drag stress testing in 112H. That is a great result. I assume that it could also have 28# or more in the Jigmaster 500/501.
Quote from: Black Pearl on February 10, 2016, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: Hoochrip on February 10, 2016, 12:55:41 AM
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.
Sal did a test on this gear set by using 3 x 1mm thickness carbon drag washers, 2 x 0.5mm keyed metal washers, 1 x 1mm keyed top metal washer with original tension spring from PENN. The result was pushing 30# of drag stress testing in 112H. That is a great result. I assume that it could also have 28# or more in the Jigmaster 500/501.
Can a 5 stack fit?
Quote from: swill88 on February 10, 2016, 02:37:05 PM
Quote from: Black Pearl on February 10, 2016, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: Hoochrip on February 10, 2016, 12:55:41 AM
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.
Sal did a test on this gear set by using 3 x 1mm thickness carbon drag washers, 2 x 0.5mm keyed metal washers, 1 x 1mm keyed top metal washer with original tension spring from PENN. The result was pushing 30# of drag stress testing in 112H. That is a great result. I assume that it could also have 28# or more in the Jigmaster 500/501.
Can a 5 stack fit?
The best suite is 3 stack for this gear set. If 5 stack is used, those carbon fiber washers will shred.
Quote from: Black Pearl on February 10, 2016, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: swill88 on February 10, 2016, 02:37:05 PM
Quote from: Black Pearl on February 10, 2016, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: Hoochrip on February 10, 2016, 12:55:41 AM
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.
Sal did a test on this gear set by using 3 x 1mm thickness carbon drag washers, 2 x 0.5mm keyed metal washers, 1 x 1mm keyed top metal washer with original tension spring from PENN. The result was pushing 30# of drag stress testing in 112H. That is a great result. I assume that it could also have 28# or more in the Jigmaster 500/501.
Can a 5 stack fit?
The best suite is 3 stack for this gear set. If 5 stack is used, those carbon fiber washers will shred.
With this system of using ( 3 ) eared carbon fiber washers you will get ( 5 ) working surface.
By the way, these gears did very well.
Using them, along with other components available to us, we have the best Jigmaster on the market.
When well equipped, the reel will easily be able to handle 20lb without breaking a sweat.
Sal
Thanks Alan and Sal,
When are those gears available and what is the cost with drag set, I'm building a reel for my sister and have a great 112h? Thought that may be the reason for the 3 stack. Is using a 2nd gen ss gear sleeve or just gen 1 recommended? I would love to have a double dog 505 bridge, could a second dog be modified into an existing 505 bridge? I would send a 505 bridge if you would like to try to modify one. Love the extra teeth in the 113 gear sleeve by the way. Love the upgrades this site has for reels. Just get a reel done and something else is being developed. Got to fish a lot last year and was in wow when checked out how much you guys have got done. I have several upgraded jigmaster and enjoy them when all day jigging a 14 oz jig, easier on shoulders compared to my much heavier Baja Special.
Thanks,
Mark
Is the pinion gear holding up?
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need several!
This part will be available for shipping by mid May 2016.
This is a 2nd generation code name is JM500X 4:1 SS gear set with 6 ears for JigMaster 500/501, 112H and other models.
Here is the price per items.
JM500X 4:1 SS gear set (main and pinion): $55.00
1mm carbon fiber drag washer (3 pcs): $9.00
0.9mm SS keyed metal washer (3 pcs): $7.50
Here are the difference package deals.
Package A: JM500X gear set + CF washers (set) + 0.9mm SS keyed metal washers (set) + delrin under gear washer (Free) = $69.99
Package B: PC98-60 (coarse) or PC98-505 (fine) (10 teeth gear sleeve) + package A = $89.99
Package C: SS eccentric jack + SS yoke + package B = $99.99
Package D: SS double dog bridge + package C = $112.00
Shipping cost is $3.25 per package by USPS First Class Parcel Service or $8.00 for the first package + $4.00 per additional package by USPS Priority Mail within the US.
For outside the US shipping cost, please contact me for more info.
Here is a picture of the 2nd gen gear set for the Jigmaster 500/501 and 112H. It is heading to Sal for testing....
It is 4:1 ratio.
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/ccfb7733-022a-4c23-a7a0-c62966349f15_zps2xv5zlt0.jpg)
I want to mention that the gears in production will not be drilled as the ones you see above.
Alan already mentioned this, but since he posted that photo, I wanted to mention it again.
Sal
Is there anyway to get the size of the holes?
Quote from: badfish71 on April 25, 2016, 07:08:12 PM
Is there anyway to get the size of the holes?
Which holes are you talking about? The production of the main gear will not be drilled through the bottom of the main gear.
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear.
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 26, 2016, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 05:31:20 PM
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear.
The finished gear will not be drilled threw, so that means only a slotted portion is inside and it looks to 1/3 the diameter of the original drilled hole in the picture.
Sorry Alan if I steeped on your reply.
Joe
There is no problem at all, Joe. Since I don't have the gear with me, I will have to ask Sal.
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 26, 2016, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 05:31:20 PM
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear.
The finished gear will not be drilled threw, so that means only a slotted portion is inside and it looks to 1/3 the diameter of the original drilled hole in the picture.
Sorry Alan if I steeped on your reply.
Joe
I understand the finished product will NOT have the holes go all the way through. The reason I am asking for the measurement is that in case someone wanted to mill or drill the holes to match the gear pictured it would help to have those dimensions.
Quote from: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 09:50:42 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 26, 2016, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 05:31:20 PM
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear.
The finished gear will not be drilled threw, so that means only a slotted portion is inside and it looks to 1/3 the diameter of the original drilled hole in the picture.
Sorry Alan if I steeped on your reply.
Joe
I understand the finished product will NOT have the holes go all the way through. The reason I am asking for the measurement is that in case someone wanted to mill or drill the holes to match the gear pictured it would help to have those dimensions.
3/16"
As much as I wanted them drilled at first, after a few tests, I requested no holes.
You will be better off with no holes.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 26, 2016, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 09:50:42 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 26, 2016, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 05:31:20 PM
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear.
The finished gear will not be drilled threw, so that means only a slotted portion is inside and it looks to 1/3 the diameter of the original drilled hole in the picture.
Sorry Alan if I steeped on your reply.
Joe
I understand the finished product will NOT have the holes go all the way through. The reason I am asking for the measurement is that in case someone wanted to mill or drill the holes to match the gear pictured it would help to have those dimensions.
3/16"
As much as I wanted them drilled at first, after a few tests, I requested no holes.
You will be better off with no holes.
Sal
great thanks. What are the benefits you observed in testing in having the gear w/o the holes?
Shredding of the under main gear washer didn't happen.
Sal
got it thank you
Will take a package d fine thread when available.
What is the update on the 2nd generation jigmaster gears.
Mike
Quote from: mikeysm on May 13, 2016, 02:01:30 PM
What is the update on the 2nd generation jigmaster gears.
Mike
It should be ready by middle of next month.
Hi Alan, Glad to hear these are getting close to delivery. I will need two Package A kits when you are ready to ship. Let me know how you would like to paid.
Thanks again for all the work.
Charles Borchardt
Alan will the jigmaster gears ship along with the 113 gears.
Mike
Quote from: mikeysm on July 01, 2016, 02:44:43 PM
Alan will the jigmaster gears ship along with the 113 gears.
Mike
Yes, this shipment (113HX, Newell 3.6, JM500X and JM500N) is on its way to the US. It should be here by next Tuesday or Wednesday.
That's great I used my 5.1 gears from my jigmaster in my squidder magnum. I have been waiting for new gears to replace them. Also the new frame and spool from Randy will need a set also.
Mike
This part is available in my online store now.
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/ea07ffe5-f9df-4332-8c39-e148e90e6955_zps1yr40knk.jpg)
I installed Alans second generation kit. This is so smooth you think the the reel is in free spool while reeling.
Mike
I'm not seeing it in the store.
I need package D
Okay I see the gear set but not the package deal?
Quote from: David Hall on July 20, 2016, 02:40:11 AM
I'm not seeing it in the store.
I need package D
Okay I see the gear set but not the package deal?
Hi Dave,
I need to have Sal check on the pinion gear again. Please hold on.
Will the 98-505 gear sleeve and the main drive gear ( 5-500) along with the drag washers fit into a 210 or would I have to make modifications? Not looking to get a major drag increase, just looking for smoother drag at the top of the original max drag.
I personally don't have that reel, but from looking at the parts list, you shouldn't have any problems.
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 26, 2016, 01:13:55 AM
I personally don't have that reel, but from looking at the parts list, you shouldn't have any problems.
Thank you. I have a couple and I want to use them on the James River For Blue Cats but would like to beef them up a little. I like the retrieve rate and power combination, plus I like the level wind. Thanks again.
Quote from: hurt locker on July 26, 2016, 12:44:53 AM
Will the 98-505 gear sleeve and the main drive gear ( 5-500) along with the drag washers fit into a 210 or would I have to make modifications?
Hey hurt locker,
Check your 210's gear sleeve before ordering a 98-505...my reel had a 98-60 in it...and it didn't appear to have been replaced. I'm pretty sure I was the first one to open the reel up.
Yes, the 98-505 gear sleeve will fit a 210 so long as you have the compatible fine-thread star.
A few of my 210's came stock with those parts.
If comparing stock parts the threads on a 98-60 sleeve and star are actually a bit stronger, being coarser.
chad
Thank you Both for the Heads up regarding the gear sleeves. I will check first before ordering. Would like to get at least 2 finished before I head to the James this Fall.
This gear set is backup. It is ready.
Just like cbar mentioned. Yes the 210 will work with the 98-505 sleeve, I have a few with ss sleeve Ss dog bryans drag kit with steel gears. I tried installing a newell gear in the 210 but I couldn't get it to work because the pinions are different, and for some reason the newell gear didn't mesh well with the 13-140 pinion. So I just went with the steel gears it works great.
Quote from: garking84 on July 30, 2016, 03:16:58 AM
Just like cbar mentioned. Yes the 210 will work with the 98-505 sleeve, I have a few with ss sleeve Ss dog bryans drag kit with steel gears. I tried installing a newell gear in the 210 but I couldn't get it to work because the pinions are different, and for some reason the newell gear didn't mesh well with the 13-140 pinion. So I just went with the steel gears it works great.
Thanks for the info. Where did you get the ss dog for a 210 from? I have one with a steel gear and I was going to set it up like yours. The other 2 I will try Black Pearl's setup and if it doesn't work, I have 2 501's that would like updated. Thanks again.
Quote from: hurt locker on July 30, 2016, 01:14:19 PM
Where did you get the ss dog for a 210 from?
Keta makes those ss 210 dogs...check with him for availability. 8)
Quote from: mo65 on July 30, 2016, 04:15:43 PM
Quote from: hurt locker on July 30, 2016, 01:14:19 PM
Where did you get the ss dog for a 210 from?
Keta makes those ss 210 dogs...check with him for availability. 8)
I will. Thank you very much.
Sal just put some of the heat treated gears in my jiggly and he said to thank you, so I am. Apparently while tangling with a Jew Fish I put a few stress cracks in the 1st generation set.
Quote from: anglingarchitect on August 24, 2016, 04:24:05 PM
Sal just put some of the heat treated gears in my jiggly and he said to thank you, so I am. Apparently while tangling with a Jew Fish I put a few stress cracks in the 1st generation set.
No problem, anytime
I posted a while back that I was looking for the D package when it came out, do you have this package for sale? I can do PayPal. May need two will check with my sister boyfriend too.
Your store doesn't show package D , I would like one if in stock. thanks Alan for all your hard work . mitch27
Quote from: mitch27 on December 03, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
Your store doesn't show package D , I would like one if in stock. thanks Alan for all your hard work . mitch27
I will add that package in my online store
Quote from: Black Pearl on December 03, 2016, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: mitch27 on December 03, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
Your store doesn't show package D , I would like one if in stock. thanks Alan for all your hard work . mitch27
I will add that package in my online store
That package deal is there now.
Thanks,
--Alan
This item is back in stock now.