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Title: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on January 30, 2016, 05:26:40 PM
This part is available in my online store now.

This is a 2nd generation code name is JM500X 4:1 SS gear set with 6 ears for JigMaster 500/501, 112H and other models.

Here is the price per items.
JM500X 4:1 SS gear set (main and pinion):   $55.00
1mm carbon fiber drag washer (3 pcs):         $9.00
0.9mm SS keyed metal washer (3 pcs):        $7.50

Here are the difference package deals.
Package A: JM500X gear set + CF washers (set) + 0.9mm SS keyed metal washers (set) + derlin under gear washer (Free) = $69.99
Package B: PC98-60 (coarse) or PC98-505 (fine)  (10 teeth gear sleeve) + package A = $93.99
Package C: SS eccentric jack + SS yoke + package B = $99.99
Package D: SS double dog bridge + package C = $112.00

Shipping cost is $3.25 per package by USPS First Class Parcel Service within the US.

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/ea07ffe5-f9df-4332-8c39-e148e90e6955_zps1yr40knk.jpg)


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: steelhead_killer on January 30, 2016, 05:35:26 PM
 :o :o :o


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: DaBigOno on January 30, 2016, 05:52:52 PM
Wow! 

Looking good there Alan.


any pics of the drag set ??


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on January 30, 2016, 06:05:34 PM
Wow! 

Looking good there Alan.


any pics of the drag set ??

Not yet. We will have to make a mold and use it to make the carbon washers. We will have to wait for Sal finish testing first before we will make the mold. Sal will have to make those washers by hand for his testing.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: borchcl on January 30, 2016, 06:10:59 PM
Looks good Alan! When you are ready to sell, I need three sets. Then I can finish assembling the 112H and Jigmasters I have in  pieces. Thanks for all your efforts.
Charlie


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Hoochrip on February 09, 2016, 04:55:41 PM
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Ron Jones on February 09, 2016, 07:52:13 PM
I have a Tuna Special those would fit nicely in.
Ron


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on February 10, 2016, 06:23:44 AM
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.

Sal did a test on this gear set by using 3 x 1mm thickness carbon drag washers, 2 x 0.5mm keyed metal washers, 1 x 1mm keyed top metal washer with original tension spring from PENN. The result was pushing 30# of drag stress testing in 112H. That is a great result. I assume that it could also have 28# or more in the Jigmaster 500/501.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: swill88 on February 10, 2016, 06:37:05 AM
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.

Sal did a test on this gear set by using 3 x 1mm thickness carbon drag washers, 2 x 0.5mm keyed metal washers, 1 x 1mm keyed top metal washer with original tension spring from PENN. The result was pushing 30# of drag stress testing in 112H. That is a great result. I assume that it could also have 28# or more in the Jigmaster 500/501.

Can a 5 stack fit?


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on February 10, 2016, 06:56:47 AM
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.

Sal did a test on this gear set by using 3 x 1mm thickness carbon drag washers, 2 x 0.5mm keyed metal washers, 1 x 1mm keyed top metal washer with original tension spring from PENN. The result was pushing 30# of drag stress testing in 112H. That is a great result. I assume that it could also have 28# or more in the Jigmaster 500/501.

Can a 5 stack fit?

The best suite is 3 stack for this gear set. If 5 stack is used, those carbon fiber washers will shred.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Alto Mare on February 10, 2016, 07:22:33 AM
Wow these look great may have to get a set, can't wait to see the drag set and testing results.

Sal did a test on this gear set by using 3 x 1mm thickness carbon drag washers, 2 x 0.5mm keyed metal washers, 1 x 1mm keyed top metal washer with original tension spring from PENN. The result was pushing 30# of drag stress testing in 112H. That is a great result. I assume that it could also have 28# or more in the Jigmaster 500/501.


Can a 5 stack fit?

The best suite is 3 stack for this gear set. If 5 stack is used, those carbon fiber washers will shred.
With this system of using ( 3 ) eared carbon fiber washers you will get  ( 5 ) working surface.
By the way, these gears did very well.
Using them, along with other components available to us, we have the best Jigmaster on the market.
When well equipped, the reel will easily be able to handle 20lb without breaking a sweat.
Sal


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Hoochrip on February 12, 2016, 02:14:40 PM
Thanks Alan and Sal,
When are those gears available and what is the cost with drag set, I'm building a reel for my sister and have a great 112h? Thought that may be the reason for the 3 stack. Is using a 2nd gen ss gear sleeve or just gen 1 recommended? I would love to have a double dog 505 bridge, could a second dog be modified into an existing 505 bridge? I would send a 505 bridge if you would like to try to modify one. Love the extra teeth in the 113 gear sleeve by the way. Love the upgrades this site has for reels. Just get a reel done and something else is being developed. Got to fish a lot last year and was in wow when checked out how much you guys have got done. I have several upgraded jigmaster and enjoy them when all day jigging a 14 oz jig, easier on shoulders compared to my much heavier Baja Special.
Thanks,
Mark


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: handi2 on February 12, 2016, 04:14:54 PM
Is the pinion gear holding up?


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on February 12, 2016, 07:46:50 PM
Is the pinion gear holding up?

It did hold up fine.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: badfish71 on February 15, 2016, 04:13:47 PM
 :o
need several!


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on April 22, 2016, 06:14:53 PM
This part will be available for shipping by mid May 2016.

This is a 2nd generation code name is JM500X 4:1 SS gear set with 6 ears for JigMaster 500/501, 112H and other models.

Here is the price per items.
JM500X 4:1 SS gear set (main and pinion):   $55.00
1mm carbon fiber drag washer (3 pcs):         $9.00
0.9mm SS keyed metal washer (3 pcs):        $7.50

Here are the difference package deals.
Package A: JM500X gear set + CF washers (set) + 0.9mm SS keyed metal washers (set) + delrin under gear washer (Free) = $69.99
Package B: PC98-60 (coarse) or PC98-505 (fine)  (10 teeth gear sleeve) + package A = $89.99
Package C: SS eccentric jack + SS yoke + package B = $99.99
Package D: SS double dog bridge + package C = $112.00

Shipping cost is $3.25 per package by USPS First Class Parcel Service or $8.00 for the first package + $4.00 per additional package by USPS Priority Mail within the US.

For outside the US shipping cost, please contact me for more info.



Here is a picture of the 2nd gen gear set for the Jigmaster 500/501 and 112H. It is heading to Sal for testing....

It is 4:1 ratio.

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/ccfb7733-022a-4c23-a7a0-c62966349f15_zps2xv5zlt0.jpg)


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Alto Mare on April 22, 2016, 07:02:28 PM
I want to mention that the gears in production will not be drilled as the ones you see above.
Alan already mentioned this, but since he posted that photo, I wanted to mention it again.

Sal


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: badfish71 on April 25, 2016, 11:08:12 AM
Is there anyway to get the size of the holes?


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on April 25, 2016, 11:12:22 AM
Is there anyway to get the size of the holes?

Which holes are you talking about? The production of the main gear will not be drilled through the bottom of the main gear.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 09:31:20 AM
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear. 


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on April 26, 2016, 10:54:44 AM
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear. 

The finished gear will not be drilled threw, so that means only a slotted portion is inside and it looks to 1/3 the diameter of the original drilled hole in the picture.

Sorry  Alan if I steeped on your reply.

Joe   

There is no problem at all, Joe. Since I don't have the gear with me, I will have to ask Sal.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 01:50:42 PM
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear. 

The finished gear will not be drilled threw, so that means only a slotted portion is inside and it looks to 1/3 the diameter of the original drilled hole in the picture.

Sorry  Alan if I steeped on your reply.

Joe   

I understand the finished product will NOT have the holes go all the way through. The reason I am asking for the measurement is that in case someone wanted to mill or drill the holes to match the gear pictured it would help to have those dimensions.



Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Alto Mare on April 26, 2016, 02:08:25 PM
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear. 

The finished gear will not be drilled threw, so that means only a slotted portion is inside and it looks to 1/3 the diameter of the original drilled hole in the picture.

Sorry  Alan if I steeped on your reply.

Joe   

I understand the finished product will NOT have the holes go all the way through. The reason I am asking for the measurement is that in case someone wanted to mill or drill the holes to match the gear pictured it would help to have those dimensions.



3/16"
As much as I wanted them drilled at first, after a few tests, I requested no holes.
You will be better off with no holes.

Sal


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 03:38:07 PM
the holes in the picture where the "ears" of the drag washers sit in the gear. 

The finished gear will not be drilled threw, so that means only a slotted portion is inside and it looks to 1/3 the diameter of the original drilled hole in the picture.

Sorry  Alan if I steeped on your reply.

Joe   

I understand the finished product will NOT have the holes go all the way through. The reason I am asking for the measurement is that in case someone wanted to mill or drill the holes to match the gear pictured it would help to have those dimensions.



3/16"
As much as I wanted them drilled at first, after a few tests, I requested no holes.
You will be better off with no holes.

Sal

great thanks. What are the benefits you observed in testing in having the gear w/o the holes?


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Alto Mare on April 26, 2016, 03:41:46 PM
Shredding of the under main gear washer didn't happen.

Sal


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: badfish71 on April 26, 2016, 03:54:01 PM
got it thank you


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Hoochrip on April 28, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
Will take a package d fine thread when available.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: mikeysm on May 13, 2016, 06:01:30 AM
What is the update on the 2nd generation jigmaster gears.

Mike


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on May 13, 2016, 11:58:57 AM
What is the update on the 2nd generation jigmaster gears.

Mike

It should be ready by middle of next month.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: borchcl on May 13, 2016, 04:49:04 PM
Hi Alan, Glad to hear these are getting close to delivery. I will need two Package A kits when you are ready to ship. Let me know how you would like to paid.
Thanks again for all the work.
Charles Borchardt


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: mikeysm on July 01, 2016, 06:44:43 AM
Alan will the jigmaster gears ship along with the 113 gears.

Mike


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on July 01, 2016, 07:28:27 AM
Alan will the jigmaster gears ship along with the 113 gears.

Mike

Yes, this shipment (113HX, Newell 3.6, JM500X and JM500N) is on its way to the US. It should be here by next Tuesday or Wednesday.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: mikeysm on July 01, 2016, 08:32:16 AM
That's great I used my 5.1 gears from my jigmaster in my squidder magnum. I have been waiting for new gears to replace them. Also the new frame and spool from Randy will need a set also.

Mike


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on July 06, 2016, 04:01:19 PM
This part is available in my online store now.

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/ea07ffe5-f9df-4332-8c39-e148e90e6955_zps1yr40knk.jpg)


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: mikeysm on July 18, 2016, 12:33:00 PM
I installed Alans second generation kit. This is so smooth you think the the reel is in free spool while reeling.

Mike


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: David Hall on July 19, 2016, 06:40:11 PM
I'm not seeing it in the store.
I need package D


Okay I see the gear set but not the package deal?


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on July 19, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
I'm not seeing it in the store.
I need package D


Okay I see the gear set but not the package deal?

Hi Dave,

I need to have Sal check on the pinion gear again. Please hold on.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: hurt locker on July 25, 2016, 04:44:53 PM
 Will the 98-505 gear sleeve and the main drive gear ( 5-500) along with the drag washers fit into a 210 or would I have to make modifications? Not looking to get a major drag increase, just looking for smoother drag at the top of the original max drag.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Alto Mare on July 25, 2016, 05:13:55 PM
I  personally don't have that reel, but from looking at the parts list, you shouldn't have any problems.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: hurt locker on July 25, 2016, 05:23:28 PM
I  personally don't have that reel, but from looking at the parts list, you shouldn't have any problems.

Thank you. I have a couple and I want to use them on the James River For Blue Cats but would like to beef them up a little. I like the retrieve rate and power combination, plus I like the level wind. Thanks again.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: mo65 on July 25, 2016, 06:02:01 PM
Will the 98-505 gear sleeve and the main drive gear ( 5-500) along with the drag washers fit into a 210 or would I have to make modifications?

Hey hurt locker,
 Check your 210's gear sleeve before ordering a 98-505...my reel had a 98-60 in it...and it didn't appear to have been replaced. I'm pretty sure I was the first one to open the reel up.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: cbar45 on July 25, 2016, 06:16:16 PM
Yes, the 98-505 gear sleeve will fit a 210 so long as you have the compatible fine-thread star.

A few of my 210's came stock with those parts.

If comparing stock parts the threads on a 98-60 sleeve and star are actually a bit stronger, being coarser.

chad


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: hurt locker on July 25, 2016, 07:11:40 PM
Thank you Both for the Heads up regarding the gear sleeves. I will check first before ordering. Would like to get at least 2 finished before I head to the James this Fall.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on July 29, 2016, 03:00:24 PM
This gear set is backup. It is ready.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: garking84 on July 29, 2016, 07:16:58 PM
Just like cbar mentioned. Yes the 210 will work with the 98-505  sleeve, I have a few with ss sleeve Ss dog bryans  drag kit with steel gears.  I tried installing a newell gear in the 210 but I couldn't get it to work because the pinions are different, and for some reason the newell gear didn't mesh well with the 13-140 pinion. So I just went with the steel gears it works great.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: hurt locker on July 30, 2016, 05:14:19 AM
Just like cbar mentioned. Yes the 210 will work with the 98-505  sleeve, I have a few with ss sleeve Ss dog bryans  drag kit with steel gears.  I tried installing a newell gear in the 210 but I couldn't get it to work because the pinions are different, and for some reason the newell gear didn't mesh well with the 13-140 pinion. So I just went with the steel gears it works great.

Thanks for the info. Where did you get the ss dog for a 210 from? I have one with a steel gear and I was going to set it up like yours. The other 2 I will try Black Pearl's setup and if it doesn't work, I have 2 501's that would like updated. Thanks again.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: mo65 on July 30, 2016, 08:15:43 AM
Where did you get the ss dog for a 210 from?

Keta makes those ss 210 dogs...check with him for availability.  8)


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: hurt locker on July 30, 2016, 03:19:03 PM
Where did you get the ss dog for a 210 from?

Keta makes those ss 210 dogs...check with him for availability.  8)

I will. Thank you very much.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: anglingarchitect on August 24, 2016, 08:24:05 AM
Sal just put some of the heat treated gears in my jiggly and he said to thank you, so I am. Apparently while tangling with a Jew Fish I put a few stress cracks in the 1st generation set.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on August 24, 2016, 09:15:24 AM
Sal just put some of the heat treated gears in my jiggly and he said to thank you, so I am. Apparently while tangling with a Jew Fish I put a few stress cracks in the 1st generation set.

No problem, anytime


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Hoochrip on December 03, 2016, 01:08:28 AM
I posted a while back that I was looking for the D package when it came out, do you have this package for sale? I can do PayPal. May need two will check with my sister boyfriend too.


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: mitch27 on December 03, 2016, 03:22:14 AM
Your store doesn't show package D , I would like one if in stock. thanks Alan for all your hard work . mitch27


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on December 03, 2016, 06:30:41 AM
Your store doesn't show package D , I would like one if in stock. thanks Alan for all your hard work . mitch27
I will add that package in my online store


Title: Re: 2nd Generation Jigmaster 500/501 or 112H 4:1 SS Gear Set
Post by: Black Pearl on December 03, 2016, 07:26:33 AM
Your store doesn't show package D , I would like one if in stock. thanks Alan for all your hard work . mitch27
I will add that package in my online store

That package deal is there now.

Thanks,
--Alan