Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Okay, I decided to give this a try and see how everyone likes it. It is much harder to do things "live", but it is much easier than having to take pictures, write a tutorial and arrange everything.. So, I would appreciate all feedback on this and if you guys prefer a video or written tutorial. If the majority of people prefer the written ones, then I will just go back to those. I just wanted to give this a shot and see what you guys think. Enjoy!

-Aaron
ReelSpeed

Data Sheet: http://www.finnorfishing.com/PDF/SportfisherST_2010.pdf (http://www.finnorfishing.com/PDF/SportfisherST_2010.pdf)

Now that I know youtube only allows 15min videos.. I had to break this up into 4 sections.  I really don't like that too much, so unless you guys really like the video tutorial and don't mind the 4 different sections, I will probably look at doing it differently.  thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmqsE_X7ld8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmqsE_X7ld8)  Part 1 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP17V9pBCrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP17V9pBCrE)  Part 2 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFrCT17sZk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFrCT17sZk)  Part 3 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koFVDLVdPRY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koFVDLVdPRY)  Part 4 of 4

oh my!the most thorough video i have seen.id be scared to go over 15lb drag,but what in the hell.you dont have to.well worth your time and effort.thanks aaron.

Thanks Aaron.  Tutorials are much harder than they appear to make.  Looks like you need a bearing packer.  Will make you life much easier, especially with tiny bearings or metal shield bearings.  

Actually, I do have a bearing packer.. I just thought that the majority of people don't and that showing them the correct way without one would work better..

Ya, the video tutorial is easier because you just film and maybe make a couple quick edits, but the "live" side of things is actually kinda difficult... I do a lot of music recording, and it is the same as what we call "one taking" it.. just step up to the mic and do it right the first time..

omg, that looks like alot of work.  i've been thinking of doing the same thing but i don't know anything about photo editing or youtube.  guess i'm going to have to learn.  alan

If you want, I can tell you what you need to buy and how to use it.. Honestly, I think it is actually much easier than writing it up. This tutorial took the 1 hour for the content and then uploading to youtube just depends on how high of quality you want.. the higher the quality, the longer it takes.  But the computer is doing the work, not you.  Let me know if you want some info.

What a hell of a job! Wow, I am deeply impressed and wait for more! I hope you service spinners as well - I would love to see a tutorial like this on a stella FA-series.

Thanks!

Willi

Actually, for the first video, I was going to service a Shimano Spirex Rear drag spinner... I thought people would enjoy watching that!  ;D

U got a Stella to service? ;)

Quote from: ReelSpeed on February 08, 2011, 08:47:47 PM
Actually, for the first video, I was going to service a Shimano Spirex Rear drag spinner... I thought people would enjoy watching that!  ;D

U got a Stella to service? ;)

Right now I one 7 Stellas FA (2500 to 10000) and I would love to service them after my next trip. To be honest until now I just serviced the drag system and I broke a dartanium washer on my 6000FA - now I wait for the spare part ......

I own some other spinners from Shimano, but they are all front drags - not a singe rear drag system is in my collection.

So if you ask me, I woul prefer a Shimano spinner with front drag.

regards,
Willi

A little late to this thread, but I have to congratulate you and say thanks for a great tutorial!  Only thing I would question is that REO Speedwagon ringtone!  I mean, come on!  What's up with that?  J/K ;D

Recently, I was able to pick up a couple of the Sportfisher ST30 combos at a very good price.  They are ST30 reels mounted to fiberglass rods rated for 50-80 lb line.

I will be going on a 20 man overnight tuna charter in October and we are forbidden by the boat to use any type of braided line on the trip (even for jigging) ::).  Well, that eliminates every one of my tuna reels.  So, rather than pulling off all the braid on my reels and respooling, I was thinking of spooling up these Sportfisher ST30 reels with 40 (or maybe 50) lb. mono and trying them out.

Planning to set the drags at around 15 to 18 lbs.  Do you think these reels will hold up to tuna up to about 100 lbs or so?

Thanks,
Bob

Quote from: Bucktail on August 27, 2012, 04:41:52 AM
A little late to this thread, but I have to congratulate you and say thanks for a great tutorial!  Only thing I would question is that REO Speedwagon ringtone!  I mean, come on!  What's up with that?  J/K ;D

Recently, I was able to pick up a couple of the Sportfisher ST30 combos at a very good price.  They are ST30 reels mounted to fiberglass rods rated for 50-80 lb line.

I will be going on a 20 man overnight tuna charter in October and we are forbidden by the boat to use any type of braided line on the trip (even for jigging) ::).  Well, that eliminates every one of my tuna reels.  So, rather than pulling off all the braid on my reels and respooling, I was thinking of spooling up these Sportfisher ST30 reels with 40 (or maybe 50) lb. mono and trying them out.

Planning to set the drags at around 15 to 18 lbs.  Do you think these reels will hold up to tuna up to about 100 lbs or so?

Thanks,
Bob

Hey Bob, I think these would do you just fine.  The internals are rock solid and they have great drags from the factory.  I probably wouldn't fish it much over 20lbs of drag, just because of the cast aluminum frame.  Sometimes frames like this can crack if they are left in a rod holder with more than 20lbs of drag and a fish strikes...but other than that scenario, I think it is an awesome reel.

I load mine with 80# mono and use it on the troll..  You might want to buy a power handle from Alan and bolt it on..but that is just personal preference.

Aaron

hi aaron
i sent you a pm.

Quote from: ReelSpeed on August 28, 2012, 05:33:55 AM

Quote from: Bucktail on August 27, 2012, 04:41:52 AM
A little late to this thread, but I have to congratulate you and say thanks for a great tutorial!  Only thing I would question is that REO Speedwagon ringtone!  I mean, come on!  What's up with that?  J/K ;D

Recently, I was able to pick up a couple of the Sportfisher ST30 combos at a very good price.  They are ST30 reels mounted to fiberglass rods rated for 50-80 lb line.

I will be going on a 20 man overnight tuna charter in October and we are forbidden by the boat to use any type of braided line on the trip (even for jigging) ::).  Well, that eliminates every one of my tuna reels.  So, rather than pulling off all the braid on my reels and respooling, I was thinking of spooling up these Sportfisher ST30 reels with 40 (or maybe 50) lb. mono and trying them out.

Planning to set the drags at around 15 to 18 lbs.  Do you think these reels will hold up to tuna up to about 100 lbs or so?

Thanks,
Bob

Hey Bob, I think these would do you just fine.  The internals are rock solid and they have great drags from the factory.  I probably wouldn't fish it much over 20lbs of drag, just because of the cast aluminum frame.  Sometimes frames like this can crack if they are left in a rod holder with more than 20lbs of drag and a fish strikes...but other than that scenario, I think it is an awesome reel.

I load mine with 80# mono and use it on the troll..  You might want to buy a power handle from Alan and bolt it on..but that is just personal preference.

Aaron

Thank you Aaron.  I will give them a shot.

One of my ST30 reels is not engaging immediately after taking it out of freespool.  I can turn the handle several times after I move the lever up before it engages.  The other is fine.  What do you think I should look at to correct this problem?

Anybody?

first guess is that the spool shaft is stuck in some corroded spool bearings.......   :-\

Thank you for your response Alan.  I should have mentioned these reels are brand new.  I haven't even put line on them yet.

It's like something is not catching right away when I move the clutch lever up from free spool.  Then, all of a sudden, it clicks and is engaged.  I haven't opened it yet.  I'm hoping it's just something that needs to be tweaked inside.

the spool might still not be traveling back and forth correctly.  something is still wrong.   :-\

Thanks Alan.  I will open it up one day this week and see what I can find out.

I finally got a chance to open this reel up.  I did the non-handle side and had no problems.  On the handle side I am trying to put the anti-reverse back together.  Everything goes together fine, but when I turn the drive shaft the pawl on the right (at 5:20 in the video) spins all the way off the anti-reverse.  The pawl on the left seems to have a pin in the frame that stops that one from coming off.  But the right one has nothing. 

I don't believe I messed the tabs up on the pawls.  What am I doing wrong? 

Quote from: Bucktail on September 02, 2012, 03:20:40 AM
Thank you for your response Alan.  I should have mentioned these reels are brand new.  I haven't even put line on them yet.

It's like something is not catching right away when I move the clutch lever up from free spool.  Then, all of a sudden, it clicks and is engaged.  I haven't opened it yet.  I'm hoping it's just something that needs to be tweaked inside.

Either the yoke is handing up on the post or the pinion gear is hanging up on the spool shaft.  Since you got the reel apart, are you able to see what might be hanging it up?

Quote from: Bucktail on September 17, 2012, 03:20:09 PM
I finally got a chance to open this reel up.  I did the non-handle side and had no problems.  On the handle side I am trying to put the anti-reverse back together.  Everything goes together fine, but when I turn the drive shaft the pawl on the right (at 5:20 in the video) spins all the way off the anti-reverse.  The pawl on the left seems to have a pin in the frame that stops that one from coming off.  But the right one has nothing. 

I don't believe I messed the tabs up on the pawls.  What am I doing wrong? 

On some reels, the pawl is held in place by the side cover, and this may be case for your reel.  Just be careful putting it back together, making sure the pawls are on the disk then apply pressure so the paws do not slip from the disk and you will be fine.

Bryan

I really didn't see anything out of the ordinary when I open the reel.  Now that it's back together it still does it a little bit sometimes.  But when I touch the spool, even slightly, it clicks into gear.  I'm thinking (hoping) it will not even be an issue once I put line on it.

As far as the anti-reverse pawls, I took your advice Brian.  I set them in the frame as they should be and just closed it up.  Although I really don't know if it's running on one pawl or two now.

Thank you everyone for your help.

-Bob

It might be that the tolerance between the pinion gear and the spool collar is tighter than it is supposed to be that the pinion gear does not slip easily in place. May need to look for little burrs or even filing own the pinion gear a little.

Yep, Brian was right on his first and second post.  The A/R pawl on a lot of reels is held in place by the sideplate.. just have to be careful on installing not to turn the gear shaft. 

Sometimes a round file on the pinion gear can help with the spool engage problem.  Still kinda crummy that you are seeing this on a pretty much new reel!

Thanks again guys.  I think I will use it as is for now, unless it starts giving me problems.  If I do decide to open it I will try filing the pinion gear.