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Title: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: steelhead_killer on March 04, 2016, 01:04:34 AM
     I am new to the site compared to most here.  I jumped in with both feet and invested a ton of time reading and learning.  I pestered members and asked silly questions.  After reviewing them I have determined that most of my time was trying to figure out what custom parts worked on what reel etc...  So it dawned on me that we could make this easier for newbies by categorizing custom parts by what they are and are not.  Example: 

     Penn 500 series reels:

Handles, knobs, drags, gear sleeves, bridges, dogs, frames, parts and tutorials.   Under each would be links to manufacture or reseller and the tutorial on the reel model

thoughts?

Andy



Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: handi2 on March 04, 2016, 01:15:17 AM
It makes a lot of sense to me...
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: foakes on March 04, 2016, 01:42:15 AM
Great idea, Andy --

Should be easy enough to set up a separate section for custom parts makers.

We are so fortunate to have these folks as part of our site.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Maxed Out on March 04, 2016, 01:53:02 AM
Those guys already have their own section. Tom, Alan C, Bryan, Randy, Adam, Alan T, etc


Andy, you learned fast and built several eye popping reels :o :o. The path took you farther in touch with the AT community and if a newcomer finds one stop shopping, then they may skip the fun part of meeting the great AT community and asking lotsa rookie  ;D  questions !!


  Ted
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: steelhead_killer on March 04, 2016, 02:00:27 AM
oh the side benefit would be increased sales for the manufactures and resellers...
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Marcq on March 04, 2016, 02:39:32 AM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on March 04, 2016, 01:04:34 AM
     I am new to the site compared to most here.  I jumped in with both feet and invested a ton of time reading and learning.  I pestered members and asked silly questions.  After reviewing them I have determined that most of my time was trying to figure out what custom parts worked on what reel etc...  So it dawned on me that we could make this easier for newbies by categorizing custom parts by what they are and are not.  Example: 

     Penn 500 series reels:

Handles, knobs, drags, gear sleeves, bridges, dogs, frames, parts and tutorials.   Under each would be links to manufacture or reseller and the tutorial on the reel model

thoughts?

Andy


Very good idea Andy, there's so many different upgrades now, like, just handle arms I think there 4 different people making/selling them, it gets confusing

Marc..
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: BMITCH on March 04, 2016, 02:45:23 AM
Great idea!!! But you gotta earn it...lol
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: steelhead_killer on March 04, 2016, 03:03:29 AM
Im just saying that I think that this site and the contents can be intimidating to rookies with thin skin.  I have been in sales my whole life so I have very thick skin, most don't.  I don't mind asking dumb questions, most do mind.  I bet it would lead to more questions from the lurkers and timid.  Hell I had to make a spreadsheet just to keep things straight on where to get what!  And it still changes!
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: anglingarchitect on March 04, 2016, 03:23:32 AM
You should share your spread sheet, it is a good idea. It is a bit confusing at first and intimidating,  you come in not knowing much about reels, reel maintenance, fishing, etc. and this site is full of machinist and tuning wizards, and world wide expert fishermen.

Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: BMITCH on March 04, 2016, 10:49:03 AM
In reality...this is a great idea. My problem would be that then I would KNOW what I'm missing. My bank acct's may not like that😆😆 but some kind of spread sheet would cut down on the learning curve. I couldn't imagine coming into this site, getting hooked, and laying out all the cash that would be needed to upgrade/bling out my reels now. It's kinda like when you know they're catching fish and your at home with the honey-do list. The angst would kill me!!!
Bob
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 04, 2016, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on March 04, 2016, 03:03:29 AM
Im just saying that I think that this site and the contents can be intimidating to rookies with thin skin.  I have been in sales my whole life so I have very thick skin, most don't.  I don't mind asking dumb questions, most do mind.  I bet it would lead to more questions from the lurkers and timid.  Hell I had to make a spreadsheet just to keep things straight on where to get what!  And it still changes!

Excellent idea Andy, It's sometimes frustrating looking up the rite people for custom parts I agree. The spread sheet is a good idea, something that could be printed out perhaps. As far as dumb question go however IMO that's part of the learning process.

Joe
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 04, 2016, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: Max Doubt on March 04, 2016, 01:53:02 AM
Those guys already have their own section. Tom, Alan C, Bryan, Randy, Adam, Alan T, etc


Andy, you learned fast and built several eye popping reels :o :o. The path took you farther in touch with the AT community and if a newcomer finds one stop shopping, then they may skip the fun part of meeting the great AT community and asking lotsa rookie  ;D  questions !!


  Ted
Sounds like a very sensible idea, but I don't see how it can be done.
Every part you need takes a PM, Post or visit to their site to the individual who makes it.
Unless you can get someone else to do the legwork for you, I don't see a way around it.
I get lots of questions from newbies on where to get a certain part. I point them in the right direction.
Like Ted said,
All of our fabricators have their on spot in the for sale section.
Maybe, if we can put exactly what each person makes under their name, it would simplify things.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: DaBigOno on March 04, 2016, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: BMITCH on March 04, 2016, 02:45:23 AM
Great idea!!! But you gotta earn it...lol

X2

Quote from: Max Doubt on March 04, 2016, 01:53:02 AM
...if a newcomer finds one stop shopping, then they may skip the fun part of meeting the great AT community and asking lotsa rookie  ;D  questions !!

I always enjoy the "what's a Penn 99" discussion  ;D




Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 04, 2016, 03:34:03 PM
If you don't ask,you will not learn ;D

Joe
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: foakes on March 04, 2016, 04:34:43 PM
Andy had a good idea -- maybe just a link to an Excel Spreadsheet at the top of the for sale section.

Can be changed from time time to time by the sellers and fabricators who already have access privileges.

Just keep it simple for where to go -- then let the sellers take it from there.

Just my opinion -- and that is always subject to change against a better convincing argument!

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Aiala on March 04, 2016, 05:08:19 PM
Quote from: DaBigOno on March 04, 2016, 01:49:34 PM
I always enjoy the "what's a Penn 99" discussion  ;D

Y'know, I started that thread as an egregiously clueless newbie; but with considerable advice/assistance from the AT experts and a LOT of patience, before long I was able to produce these 99 lovelies:

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000797_zpsbyztie2n.jpg)

So to any/all AT newbies, please do NOT feel diffident or intimidated. If this ol' gal can still learn new tricks (so to speak... ahem ::) ) so can you!   ;D

~A~
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 04, 2016, 05:18:09 PM
Aila: Ruth learned to shoot trap when she was 60 and became ladies state "C" division champion at 62. So the proves you can teach a old gal new tricks ;D

Joe 
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Aiala on March 04, 2016, 05:24:55 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 04, 2016, 05:18:09 PM
Aiala: Ruth learned to shoot trap when she was 60 and became ladies state "C" division champion at 62. So that proves you can teach a old gal new tricks ;D
Joe 

Amen, Joe. And Ruth... You go, girl!   :D

~A~
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: David Hall on March 04, 2016, 05:40:20 PM
Ayala:
Something just occured to me!
Awhile back I was searching for a frame and ran across a very nice purple accurate 99 frame and purple accurate handle from our friend Randy P.
I am thinking they might go very well with those purple side plates.
If your interested I will let you have them for what I gave for them, which is I don't remember?  I can check my PayPal and see what I gave Randy for them and send you some pics.


OOps it's a purple pro gear power handle not an accurate but matches the frame nicely.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Aiala on March 04, 2016, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: David Hall on March 04, 2016, 05:40:20 PM
Aiala:
Something just occurred to me!
Awhile back I was searching for a frame and ran across a very nice purple accurate 99 frame and purple accurate handle from our friend Randy P.
I am thinking they might go very well with those purple side plates.
If your interested I will let you have them for what I gave for them, which is I don't remember?  I can check my PayPal and see what I gave Randy for them and send you some pics.
Oops it's a purple pro gear power handle not an accurate but matches the frame nicely.

Oh, now I get it... I just responded to your PM saying how clueless I was... duh!   ::)

At any rate, Dave, I do thank you for the kind offer, but actually that purple/red combo was very much intentional. (You know how crazy I get with colors!)   ;D

~A~
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: steelhead_killer on March 04, 2016, 08:45:04 PM
Quote from: Aiala on March 04, 2016, 05:08:19 PM
Quote from: DaBigOno on March 04, 2016, 01:49:34 PM
I always enjoy the "what's a Penn 99" discussion  ;D

Y'know, I started that thread as an egregiously clueless newbie; but with considerable advice/assistance from the AT experts and a LOT of patience, before long I was able to produce these 99 lovelies:

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000797_zpsbyztie2n.jpg)

So to any/all AT newbies, please do NOT feel diffident or intimidated. If this ol' gal can still learn new tricks (so to speak... ahem ::) ) so can you!   ;D

~A~

Because of your questions I ended up building this 99
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/photoHumboldt/IMG_0100_zpsfsakxfqx.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/photoHumboldt/media/IMG_0100_zpsfsakxfqx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: theluckpusher on March 04, 2016, 08:49:06 PM
them some pretty looking reels!!!!!!!
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Alto Mare on March 04, 2016, 08:58:43 PM
Quote from: Aiala on March 04, 2016, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: David Hall on March 04, 2016, 05:40:20 PM
Aiala:
Something just occurred to me!
Awhile back I was searching for a frame and ran across a very nice purple accurate 99 frame and purple accurate handle from our friend Randy P.
I am thinking they might go very well with those purple side plates.
If your interested I will let you have them for what I gave for them, which is I don't remember?  I can check my PayPal and see what I gave Randy for them and send you some pics.
Oops it's a purple pro gear power handle not an accurate but matches the frame nicely.

Oh, now I get it... I just responded to your PM saying how clueless I was... duh!   ::)

At any rate, Dave, I do thank you for the kind offer, but actually that purple/red combo was very much intentional. (You know how crazy I get with colors!)   ;D

~A~
Dave, you didn't go there, did you? The last time I tried to coordinate some colors for Aiala, I got stung so bad it still hurts ;D

Aiala, your reels look sweet just as they are ;) ;D
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: David Hall on March 04, 2016, 11:31:17 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 04, 2016, 08:58:43 PM
Quote from: Aiala on March 04, 2016, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: David Hall on March 04, 2016, 05:40:20 PM
Aiala:
Something just occurred to me!
Awhile back I was searching for a frame and ran across a very nice purple accurate 99 frame and purple accurate handle from our friend Randy P.
I am thinking they might go very well with those purple side plates.
If your interested I will let you have them for what I gave for them, which is I don't remember?  I can check my PayPal and see what I gave Randy for them and send you some pics.
Oops it's a purple pro gear power handle not an accurate but matches the frame nicely.

Oh, now I get it... I just responded to your PM saying how clueless I was... duh!   ::)

At any rate, Dave, I do thank you for the kind offer, but actually that purple/red combo was very much intentional. (You know how crazy I get with colors!)   ;D

~A~
Dave, you didn't go there, did you? The last time I tried to coordinate some colors for Aiala, I got stung so bad it still hurts ;D

Aiala, your reels look sweet just as they are ;) ;D

Yes Sal I'm afraid I did!  Maybe I should lay low for awhile ?  is it just my male mind that wants to color match every part of my reels?
Maybe I should match that purple frame up to the black CC sideplates take a walk outside my comfort zone?
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: RowdyW on March 05, 2016, 12:10:43 AM
Dave I've got a 505 with purple frame & black Accuplates. Great looking color combo.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Aiala on March 05, 2016, 12:12:11 AM
Quote from: David Hall on March 04, 2016, 11:31:17 PM
Yes, Sal, I'm afraid I did! Maybe I should lay low for awhile?

No, no, Dave... it's fine, really! Suggestions and input are always welcome.  ;)

Quote from: David Hall on March 04, 2016, 11:31:17 PMIs it just my male mind that wants to color match every part of my reels?

Yeah, probably, but that's just the way you're wired... not to worry!   ;D

Quote from: David Hall on March 04, 2016, 11:31:17 PM
Maybe I should match that purple frame up to the black CC sideplates and take a walk outside my comfort zone?

NOW you're talking!! Go for it.   :D

~A~
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Dominick on March 05, 2016, 01:51:57 AM
Go to the home page.  Scroll down to "For Sale."  The sections under that heading are most of the members custom parts.  Why do we need a spread sheet when that accomplishes the same thing.  Dominick
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: MarkT on March 05, 2016, 02:10:11 AM
A purple frame with black plates is a good combo. I built a 146 that way. It's now with a Washi googan fishing for Salmon. I added a Motiv Fab Newell style star to my silver framed 99'd Jigmaster. The stock star is too small to crank down with to take advantage of the stainless gear stud and Bryan's drags.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Alto Mare on March 05, 2016, 03:19:48 AM
Quote from: Dominick on March 05, 2016, 01:51:57 AM
Go to the home page.  Scroll down to "For Sale."  The sections under that heading are most of the members custom parts.  Why do we need a spread sheet when that accomplishes the same thing.  Dominick
I agree with our Consigliere, all information needed is at the for sale section at the bottom of the page...very easy to find anything you need.

Sal
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: steelhead_killer on March 05, 2016, 03:33:14 AM
Ok how about this idea. 

Sub sections for main components:

Knobs -->vendors
Handles-->vendors
Bridges-->vendors
Frames-->vendors
Drags-->vendors
Dogs-->vendors
Gear Sleeves-->vendors
etc...


Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: alantani on March 05, 2016, 03:45:42 AM
i'm swamped right now, but if someone wants to put something together, that would be ok with me!
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 05, 2016, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on March 05, 2016, 03:33:14 AM
Ok how about this idea. 

Sub sections for main components:

Knobs -->vendors
Handles-->vendors
Bridges-->vendors
Frames-->vendors
Drags-->vendors
Dogs-->vendors
Gear Sleeves-->vendors
etc...




That's simple and orderly. I think that would work.

Joe
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Keta on March 05, 2016, 02:35:13 PM
SS AR dogs should come with the SS gear sleeves,  that way when I see something shiny or a squirrel you get your dogs.... ;D

Actually the big bottle neck on my parts is the cutter, the last order was made 5 weeks ago, and it has some Penn 10 dogs in it.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Alto Mare on March 05, 2016, 02:51:43 PM
Good job on the 10 dogs Lee, I just want to mention that the tail piece that makes contact with the eccentric needs to be shaved 1/32", or the direct drive won't work. I'm not sure you've tested these but one of the members was having problem with his 10. I told him to send it over and that's what I came up with.
Dogs on the 10 are very sensitive, they need to be spot on.
His reel is working nicely now.

Sal
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Keta on March 05, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Thanks for the feedback, drawing changed.  Penn tolerances can be all over the place.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Alto Mare on March 05, 2016, 03:06:43 PM
Not a problem Lee, I just wanted to make sure you knew. I wasn't sure if he contacted you.
He's very happy with your work and I'm sure so is everyone else here, I know I am.

Sal
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 05, 2016, 11:45:14 PM
When I get mine Ill make sure to check that, Thanks Sal.

Joe
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Frank on March 06, 2016, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on March 05, 2016, 03:33:14 AM
Ok how about this idea.  

Sub sections for main components:

Knobs -->vendors
Handles-->vendors
Bridges-->vendors
Frames-->vendors
Drags-->vendors
Dogs-->vendors
Gear Sleeves-->vendors


etc...




That would be great!
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Keta on March 06, 2016, 01:13:30 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 05, 2016, 11:45:14 PM
When I get mine Ill make sure to check that, Thanks Sal.

Joe

If the cutter ever gets to my order the 15-10 dogs I send you will be shorter.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 06, 2016, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 06, 2016, 01:13:30 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 05, 2016, 11:45:14 PM
When I get mine Ill make sure to check that, Thanks Sal.

Joe

If the cutter ever gets to my order the 15-10 dogs I send you will be shorter.

Thank you Keta, When they get here they'll get here no rush.

Joe
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: steelhead_killer on March 06, 2016, 04:10:50 PM
Quote from: Frank on March 06, 2016, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on March 05, 2016, 03:33:14 AM
Ok how about this idea.  

Sub sections for main components:

Knobs -->vendors
Handles-->vendors
Bridges-->vendors
Frames-->vendors
Drags-->vendors
Dogs-->vendors
Gear Sleeves-->vendors


etc...




That would be great!


I guess this thread is off the table.  Oh well.  Just trying to help.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Keta on March 06, 2016, 04:24:53 PM
Too many manufactures and variations to do this.  Alan sells some of his gear sleeves with a SS AR dog.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 06, 2016, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on March 06, 2016, 04:10:50 PM
Quote from: Frank on March 06, 2016, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on March 05, 2016, 03:33:14 AM
Ok how about this idea.  

Sub sections for main components:

Knobs -->vendors
Handles-->vendors
Bridges-->vendors
Frames-->vendors
Drags-->vendors
Dogs-->vendors
Gear Sleeves-->vendors


etc...




In the military we leaned how to "Search and destroy"  ;D I thing that is still a good idea. Don't give up! ;) :D

Joe 

That would be great!


I guess this thread is off the table.  Oh well.  Just trying to help.
Title: Re: How can we make ordering custom parts easier for newbies?
Post by: STRIPER LOU on March 07, 2016, 01:07:11 AM
Hey Lee, hope all is well!! When the SS Squidder dogs are done please save 4 for me.
Thanks and best regards,  ..  Lou