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Someone got themselves a 1933 Long Beach today. They beat me at it. I hope it was someone here! It sold with another oldie Long Beach for $240 for the two
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Penn-Long-Beach-reels-in-exc-cond-one-ca-1940s-one-recent-vintage-lot3-/162039558747?nma=true&si=lRREVepzfsjVuiOqQJkEa2SnzY4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Sid
I have a recently aquired prewar LB 65
LMK if your interested Sid.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15556.msg186511#msg186511
John
That listing surprised me, it sat all week, so I thought it would be a sleeper; but, it woke up at the end. I was not bidding on; but, a friend of mine was and he did not win. The winner had to be a deep pockets guy. it was a nice reel. The 33LB I mean.
Quote from: Tightlines666 on April 20, 2016, 08:32:57 PM
I have a recently aquired prewar LB 65
LMK if your interested Sid.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15556.msg186511#msg186511
John
PM sent!
Here is one of the Penn Holy Grails. The 1933 Long Beach with the box and catalog.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Long%20Beach%20Models/earlylongbeach1%20-%20Copy%20480%20x%20510_zpsndevj1eo.jpg)
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Long%20Beach%20Models/earlylongbeach3_zpst2ftrqxw.jpg)
Quote from: Penn Chronology on June 30, 2016, 06:24:55 AM
Here is one of the Penn Holy Grails. The 1933 Long Beach with the box and catalog.
That one is no good Mike, the catalog is torn. ;) ;)
QuoteThat one is no good Mike, the catalog is torn.
You are right. When I saw that damaged catalog I just threw the whole package in the garbage.........................................<:O(
I have an old Long Beach 60, square edged plates, no part numbers on any parts, etc. However, this reel has a black headplate and a brown and black speckled tailplate. Could it have left the Penn factory like this, or did someone else replace one of the original plates?
George
Quote from: Penn Chronology on July 01, 2016, 08:26:12 AM
QuoteThat one is no good Mike, the catalog is torn.
You are right. When I saw that damaged catalog I just threw the whole package in the garbage.........................................<:O(
Too bad, I would have paid good money for the catalog if you threw the reel in for free. ::)
Quote from: George4741 on July 02, 2016, 02:28:04 AM
I have an old Long Beach 60, square edged plates, no part numbers on any parts, etc. However, this reel has a black headplate and a brown and black speckled tailplate. Could it have left the Penn factory like this, or did someone else replace one of the original plates?
George
George, two possibilities, as I see it, and Mike will probably be along soon to correct me. Either it was a special order for a rental outfit that wanted to be able to recognize their reels at a glance, or it was a replacement (no telling which side was the original, but when a clicker wore out in the old days the only solution was to replace the tail plate). I'd more easily believe the latter explanation. Let's see what Mike has to say.
Sid
QuoteI have an old Long Beach 60, square edged plates, no part numbers on any parts, etc. However, this reel has a black headplate and a brown and black speckled tailplate. Could it have left the Penn factory like this, or did someone else replace one of the original plates?
George
George, two possibilities, as I see it, and Mike will probably be along soon to correct me. Either it was a special order for a rental outfit that wanted to be able to recognize their reels at a glance, or it was a replacement (no telling which side was the original, but when a clicker wore out in the old days the only solution was to replace the tail plate). I'd more easily believe the latter explanation. Let's see what Mike has to say.
Trying to explain why a Mottled tail plate is on a reel is impossible. Either of Sid's explanation may be true or it could be a End of Day reel that came out of the plant that way. Unlikely a rental, the rental reels were more weird than that.
I agree with Mike, the few rental reels I've seen were about as weird as they come.....just like me :D :D
Quote from: Maxed Out on July 02, 2016, 04:12:22 PM
I agree with Mike, the few rental reels I've seen were about as weird as they come.....just like me :D :D
Weird maybe, but definitely beautiful! Who would ever want to cover up that spool with line? :o
Weird people attract weird reels, maybe, but damn that reel is a cool one. Loving the electric green handle and that the spotted plate matches that orange spool. That reel has a lot going for it.
Neat piece, Ted
Dom
I'm with Dom on the "beautiful" descriptor for that reel. I've been eyeing it in your avatar for months now, Ted. It looks even better with that spool, too!
Sid
Now I wonder,,,,,,,,,,,, is that a End of Day reel, a rental reel, a Salesman reel or a Ted reel? ;)
Quote from: Penn Chronology on July 02, 2016, 10:41:49 PM
Now I wonder,,,,,,,,,,,, is that a End of Day reel, a rental reel, a Salesman reel or a Ted reel? ;)
ANSWER: All of the above :D :D
Someone beat me on an auction for a Long Beach 60 LS, with box, lube and wrench, I hope it was someone here. Mike's book lists the 65LS from 1941; it wasn't in any of the catalogs. I presume this 60LS is similar. I really wanted that reel! >:( It appears to have a spool with flanges of German silver....
Sid
No worries Sid, another will come along. The reel wasn't correct for the box, but still caught my eye because of the LS box, the different looking spool on a sweet era correct reel, and the mega rare LB60 clamp seat. IMO, the guy that won got a good deal. 8) 8)
Yeah, Ted, I know the spool was wrong for the box, but I'm in the hunt for those German silver spools (I picked one up on a 9/0 earlier today on a BIN, that will be my 4th; I have 4/0, 6/0 and 9/0 (2 of those now). I was going to look for a plastic spool for this one and find another reel for the German silver spool. Was. Slow and steady wins the race. I've always had trouble with slow and steady....
Sid and Michael,
After reading your thoughts, and my own feelings, I'm sure my mixed-plate 60 was probably changed by a previous owner. That's OK with me, as it's an unusual reel with all vintage parts and that's the way it will remain.
I was also watching that Long Beach 60LS on ebay, and some other vintage Penns, too. For example, the other day the winning bid on an Ocean Side was $1825. I'm just a casual collector so I won't bid on anything like those.
Quote from: George4741 on July 03, 2016, 06:50:44 PM
For example, the other day the winning bid on an Ocean Side was $1825. I'm just a casual collector so I won't bid on anything like those.
That reel is one of the holy grails of Penn collecting. I'm glad I didn't see it was up for auction.
Quote from: sdlehr on July 03, 2016, 08:20:07 PM
Quote from: George4741 on July 03, 2016, 06:50:44 PM
For example, the other day the winning bid on an Ocean Side was $1825. I'm just a casual collector so I won't bid on anything like those.
That reel is one of the holy grails of Penn collecting. I'm glad I didn't see it was up for auction.
I missed this one as well.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/162117397098
Though, I definately saw the first Generation 16/0.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/291799285906
I did cringe when I read this though...
"Drag set has been replaced and has not been used since.
Work was done this year at Scott's Bait & Tackle in Mystic Island, NJ"
Maureen et. al...
If this reel landed on my bench I would advise the customer to keep it 'as is'.
I have been trying to educate a few of the local shops on how to recognize the early/collectable Penn Reels so if they have one with historical significance come accross their benches they can advise their customers accordingly.
So far the only reel that has turned up locally is a Prewar LB deluxe, which BTW, I am heading over to pick up now.
John
Exciting to watch the fireworks.
Quote from: Tightlines666 on July 03, 2016, 08:25:17 PM
I did cringe when I read this though...
"Drag set has been replaced and has not been used since.
Work was done this year at Scott's Bait & Tackle in Mystic Island, NJ"
Ouch, indeed!
The tailplate on the left is my mis-matched Long Beach 60 and the other one is a 65 with matching plates. The 60 is not as colorful as Ted's reel but much nicer than the darker 65. On the 65, a previous owner covered some initials with grey paint.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010618_zpsgodypxzp.jpg)
Ted, I've never seen the headplate on your reel. Do the plates match?
George
Long Live the Long Beach!
Quote from: Tightlines666 on July 03, 2016, 08:25:17 PM
So far the only reel that has turned up locally is a Prewar LB deluxe, which BTW, I am heading over to pick up now.
John
Exciting to watch the fireworks.
I was keeping an eye on a LB Deluxe in not nearly the shape yours is in and didn't keep track of it and lost it. There's always another day. That one is a beauty!
John
Quote from: 49Freak on July 04, 2016, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on July 03, 2016, 08:25:17 PM
So far the only reel that has turned up locally is a Prewar LB deluxe, which BTW, I am heading over to pick up now.
John
Exciting to watch the fireworks.
I was keeping an eye on a LB Deluxe in not nearly the shape yours is in and didn't keep track of it and lost it. There's always another day. That one is a beauty!
John
I've been looking for a LB Deluxe (both DL60 and DL65, actually)for a while, they don't pop up on the auction site very often....
Sid
Quote from: sdlehr on July 04, 2016, 05:22:41 PM
So far the only reel that has turned up locally is a Prewar LB deluxe, which BTW, I am heading over to pick up now.
John
I was keeping an eye on a LB Deluxe in not nearly the shape yours is in and didn't keep track of it and lost it. There's always another day. That one is a beauty!
John
I've been looking for a LB Deluxe (both DL60 and DL65, actually)for a while, they don't pop up on the auction site very often....
Sid
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Well this is going to hurt Sid, but the one I missed was on the Goodwill auction site I learned about from one of your posts and it went for $21.00 with a 209 included. I guess we'll both keep looking. ;)
John
Quote from: 49Freak on July 04, 2016, 05:49:24 PM
Quote from: sdlehr on July 04, 2016, 05:22:41 PM
So far the only reel that has turned up locally is a Prewar LB deluxe, which BTW, I am heading over to pick up now.
John
I was keeping an eye on a LB Deluxe in not nearly the shape yours is in and didn't keep track of it and lost it. There's always another day. That one is a beauty!
John
I've been looking for a LB Deluxe (both DL60 and DL65, actually)for a while, they don't pop up on the auction site very often....
Sid
Well this is going to hurt Sid, but the one I missed was on the Goodwill auction site I learned about from one of your posts and it went for $21.00 with a 209 included. I guess we'll both keep looking. ;)
John
[/quote]Ouch!
Quote from: George4741 on July 04, 2016, 04:11:53 PM
The tailplate on the left is my mis-matched Long Beach 60 and the other one is a 65 with matching plates. The 60 is not as colorful as Ted's reel but much nicer than the darker 65. On the 65, a previous owner covered some initials with grey paint.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010618_zpsgodypxzp.jpg)
Ted, I've never seen the headplate on your reel. Do the plates match?
George
Long Live the Long Beach!
George, the headplate on mine is plain, not mottled like the tail plate. I've seen a few that were brownish head plates, but only 1 or 2 with mottled head plate.
I'm not convinced these speckled tail plates were "replacements" of the originals. I've had a handful of mottled tail plate penns and the patina on the tail plate has always matched the rest of the reel, suggesting it came new with those same plates. Those were tough times and Penn was known for using every part they produced, even if it meant sweeping the floor to have enough to mold the last few plates for each day.
Quote from: Maxed Out on July 06, 2016, 06:04:11 PM
I'm not convinced these speckled tail plates were "replacements" of the originals. I've had a handful of mottled tail plate penns and the patina on the tail plate has always matched the rest of the reel, suggesting it came new with those same plates. Those were tough times and Penn was known for using every part they produced, even if it meant sweeping the floor to have enough to mold the last few plates for each day.
I like what you are saying, Ted. Certainly you, Michael, and Sid know more about Penn than I'll ever know. The condition of the plates and chrome parts appear to be the same, as if they have always been together since leaving the factory.
George
Long Live the Long Beach!
Quote from: George4741 on July 07, 2016, 03:16:38 AM
Certainly you, Michael, and Sid know more about Penn than I'll ever know.
George
Long Live the Long Beach!
There is a mistake here. My name does not belong in this sentence. I'm just starting out.
Sid
Quote from: sdlehr on July 08, 2016, 01:10:58 AM
Quote from: George4741 on July 07, 2016, 03:16:38 AM
Certainly you, Michael, and Sid know more about Penn than I'll ever know.
George
Long Live the Long Beach!
There is a mistake here. My name does not belong in this sentence. I'm just starting out.
Sid
Don't under estimate yourself Sid, you have absorbed lifetimes of information in a short time and deserve to be mentioned... Having said that, I'd say I don't belong there either. Mike, Ray, and Brian in one sentence for sure.....the rest of us aren't even in the same chapter. :D :D
QuoteDon't under estimate yourself Sid, you have absorbed lifetimes of information in a short time and deserve to be mentioned... Having said that, I'd say I don't belong there either. Mike, Ray, and Brian in one sentence for sure.....the rest of us aren't even in the same chapter. Cheesy Cheesy
It is not a contest, we are all on the same page. Our world is small and we all need each other for it to exist.
Quote from: Maxed Out on July 08, 2016, 01:25:38 AM
Don't under estimate yourself Sid, you have absorbed lifetimes of information in a short time and deserve to be mentioned... Having said that, I'd say I don't belong there either. Mike, Ray, and Brian in one sentence for sure.....the rest of us aren't even in the same chapter. :D :D
Thanks, Ted. If I don't keep my ego in check it rapidly grows unacceptably large. That being said, I do still feel like a newcomer with relatively little knowledge, and I'm glad to be here to learn.
Sid
... Just another oddball long beach 60.
This one is 1951/52, with earliest version of new style sideplates. Not sure why the steel bridge, and the blue swirled knob is another bonus !!
Ted
First time I see a blue knob, very nice Ted.
Quote from: Alto Mare on October 06, 2016, 01:02:33 AM
First time I see a blue knob, very nice Ted.
First for me too Sal
Strangely it has 24-60 part#, which was never in any catalog. It should be 24-155 ;D
You never cease to amaze us Ted.
That is one crazy cool Long Beach.
Whether you want to admit it or not. You have a gift. ;)
Nice reel Ted.
I have seen blue handle knobs on smaller reels. Not common at all on the larger reels.
So they DO exist! I've been waiting for years to see a blue torpedo knob surface...gotta find me one too!!! :o
Quote from: Maxed Out on October 06, 2016, 02:01:24 AM
Strangely it has 24-60 part#, which was never in any catalog. It should be 24-155 ;D
This is the part number I asked about in the handle thread...the one nobody really had an answer about. Not only a super rare Torpedo color...but also on an "off the books" handle...cool! 8)
QuoteStrangely it has 24-60 part#, which was never in any catalog. It should be 24-155 Grin
Great question!!! In 1949 and 1950, when the Penn part numbering system actually had its first year in the catalogs, the Part Number used for the Penn Squidder and the Penn Beach Master handle was 24-60,, not 24-155. The part number 24-60 was retired in 1951 and changed to 24-155.
You have a extremely hard to find handle!
The blue plastic pigments of the day were not very stable and tended to turn greenish.
-steve
Quote from: oc1 on October 06, 2016, 07:53:02 PM
The blue plastic pigments of the day were not very stable and tended to turn greenish.
-steve
Hi Steve,
Is that due to sun exposure or does it eventually just happen with time?
John
I think it happens with sun exposure John, but I'm no expert.
-steve
Okay, thanks Steve. That'd be a good reason for me to keep that one in the house. ;)
Quote from: oc1 on October 10, 2016, 07:53:31 PM
I think it happens with sun exposure John, but I'm no expert.
-steve
Well Steve, perhaps that is why this blue knob isn't faded !! The reel came from original owners' next of kin and was in original box and had not seen light of day since 1952.
Ted
Thinking about it.... the blue on bakelite billiard balls discolors too. Not too much sunlight in a pool hall. So, maybe it not just sunlight but any light.
-steve
Quote from: 49Freak on October 10, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
Hi Steve,
Is that due to sun exposure or does it eventually just happen with time?
John
I think the degradation will occur on its own, but is accelerated by light exposure. Ted, you should put some sunscreen on your handle!!! :) (Just kidding, it might not help and might actually cause problems. I wonder if stuff in cigarette smoke can cause a blue billiard ball to fade.... because cigarette smoke is full of free radicals and other nasty reactive things.....
Sid
A recent addition to my 1940's Long Beach 60 family is one with a very uncommon clamp seat(far left). How rare are the lb60 clamp seats ?? I've seen about a half dozen in the last 15 years....out of literally tens of thousands of lb60 reels. It is my humble opinion that the Long beach 60 clamp seat was discontinued shortly after it arrived in '41. The long beach 60 cost $6.50 in 1941. Clamp seat option was extra $2, bringing it up to $8.50, making the cost unacceptable for many. That same year a long beach 66 was $8, add $2 clamp seat and it was $10 total. A lot more reel for the money.
Ted,
Great grouping there!
I am pretty sure you have even more early LBs.
John
QuoteA recent addition to my 1940's Long Beach 60 family is one with a very uncommon clamp seat(far left). How rare are the lb60 clamp seats ?? I've seen about a half dozen in the last 15 years....out of literally tens of thousands of lb60 reels. It is my humble opinion that the Long beach 60 clamp seat was discontinued shortly after it arrived in '41. The long beach 60 cost $6.50 in 1941. Clamp seat option was extra $2, bringing it up to $8.50, making the cost unacceptable for many. That same year a long beach 66 was $8, add $2 clamp seat and it was $10 total. A lot more reel for the money.
Over the years, the Long Beach 60 with a rod clamp stand is something I never placed into a rare or even hard to find category. The stand was optionally available in the accessories section of the Penn catalogs from 1941 to 1948 (those years are inclusive). I am fairly positive that these stands were not being made during the war; but for two years before and three years after there were in production, or at least they were available in the catalogs.
Probably, most customers added these to their Long Beach reels long after they purchased the reel, adding it only because they felt the need or they wanted to tank the reel a bit. So, they are a nice add on for the Long Beach; but, not a rarity.
Beautiful stable of 60's Ted! :o I've been watching hundreds of Long Beaches sell on fleabay the past 6 months...I've seen exactly one...ONE LB60 clamp stand. Glad I already have one! 8)
Quote from: Penn Chronology on February 05, 2017, 12:05:32 AM
QuoteA recent addition to my 1940's Long Beach 60 family is one with a very uncommon clamp seat(far left). How rare are the lb60 clamp seats ?? I've seen about a half dozen in the last 15 years....out of literally tens of thousands of lb60 reels. It is my humble opinion that the Long beach 60 clamp seat was discontinued shortly after it arrived in '41. The long beach 60 cost $6.50 in 1941. Clamp seat option was extra $2, bringing it up to $8.50, making the cost unacceptable for many. That same year a long beach 66 was $8, add $2 clamp seat and it was $10 total. A lot more reel for the money.
Over the years, the Long Beach 60 with a rod clamp stand is something I never placed into a rare or even hard to find category. The stand was optionally available in the accessories section of the Penn catalogs from 1941 to 1948 (those years are inclusive). I am fairly positive that these stands were not being made during the war; but for two years before and three years after there were in production, or at least they were available in the catalogs.
Probably, most customers added these to their Long Beach reels long after they purchased the reel, adding it only because they felt the need or they wanted to tank the reel a bit. So, they are a nice add on for the Long Beach; but, not a rarity.
Let's put this in todays money.
If you just bought a reel for $650.00 then found out a clamp seat was $200 more, I doubt you'd opt for it. The lb60 clamp seat only fit a few reels, which were all the more affordable models. Del mar, long beach, Seagate. So few were sold that discontinuing it was a no brainer. The long beach has always been my favorite reel, and 40's era my target subject for many years......yes, I'd call a lb60 clamp seat rare, but that's just me and my experience from my attachment to this particular model.
If anyone else has a long beach 60 with clamp seat I would love to see it. I know of a couple members with one.
-Ted
Quote from: Maxed Out on February 05, 2017, 01:00:11 AM
If anyone else has a long beach 60 with clamp seat I would love to see it. I know of a couple members with one.
I just posted mine on the "show off your LB" thread a few days ago...but here it is again.
This is my long beach 60 with a rod clamp........maybe not what you wanted to see though ::)
Mike
(http://alantani.com/gallery/22/7995_27_10_17_5_22_42.jpeg)
Pretty sure Mo and Goerge are holding out on us......it's been too long since they showed their latest lb60's. Let's see if I can stir the pot a bit ;D ;D
Ted
Pristine LB 60. Possibly 1960's? If I remember right, it had leather drag washers when I "Tanizied" it. Definitely part numbers.
Ted here's zat "uncommon clamp seat" from another LB 60(1940's vintage). Wanna trade for onea your cool Alum. free spool levers? If so, please PM. The white thingies are protective plastic acorn nuts.
Gfish
That white spool is interesting Ted, nice little grouping.
I haven't nabbed any new LB60s lately, scored a nice 259 for $25 a few days ago. I've been watching for those colored spools...the tan and white...I love the odd colored spools. 8)
Looked through around 85 old Penns early this morning, that have not been gone through yet.
Found this old LB60 that I did not know was at the bottom of a crate.
No part numbers --
Guess I looked at it at one time -- but must have thought it was a DelMar 285.
Just stopped for lunch -- heading back out to do more timber.
Best,
Fred
Hi Fred
Should it not have an inner tail plate ring?
Greg
Quote from: basto on October 27, 2017, 09:43:15 PM
Hi Fred
Should it not have an inner tail plate ring?
Greg
Yes Fred, I noticed the wrong tail plate....I have one I'll send you if you would like to make it back to original again.
Ted
Thanks Greg --
Yeah, it is the wrong tailplate.
Thank You also, Ted -- but I have should have plenty of those LB tailplates.
Best,
Fred
Got back from a fishing trip and a crusty old long beach 60 was sitting in a box on my porch. Oh yeah, now I remember buying it a few weeks back for about $55 total. I overpaid, but sometimes my passion over-rides common sense. The seller was very slow at getting it shipped.
....anyways, it cleaned up just fine and 100% original circa 1941/42. The clamp seat is a big bonus, especially so because of the nice condition. To the shelf it goes !!
-Ted
That looks great !!
Yea! another shelfie. Nice one too. Dominick
That's a dandy Ted! 8)
Thats a winner
That crusty sure cleaned up like new Ted :o :o
Great job !!
Regards
AC49
Hi Ted, That is a nice score, and I luv that reel seat.
Definitely shelf bound with that one........
Col
I just "won" (or maybe it WASN'T a win :P) a "bunch 'o reels".....one of those "for parts or repair" listings...the pictures pretty well suck, but, I *think" one of them is a LB60...with the drilled stand. No spool, no handle, but,it was the stand that caught my eye. Another is an "older" 49....no spool....but the spool SHAFT is in place, so the "plastic" must have exploded, long ago....this is another package I'm anxious to get ! I'm *hoping* my old eyes didn't deceive me ???!
QuoteI just "won" (or maybe it WASN'T a win ) a "bunch 'o reels".....one of those "for parts or repair" listings...the pictures pretty well suck, but, I *think" one of them is a LB60...with the drilled stand. No spool, no handle, but,it was the stand that caught my eye. Another is an "older" 49....no spool....but the spool SHAFT is in place, so the "plastic" must have exploded, long ago....this is another package I'm anxious to get ! I'm *hoping* my old eyes didn't deceive me !
I once bought a lot of about ten Penn reels for $200 on eBay. Ray Hodges pointed out the bunch to me. He told me to look carefully at what was in the mix. I did and saw what he was talking about. Bought the bunch for $200. Picked out one reel and resold the rest, got my $200 back. This was the reel I kept at no cost to me, thanks to Ray Hodges. I always like buying a bundle of stuff.
Wow, what a great find Mike ! The jewel in the pile...
Haven't been surprised by a bulk purchase like that before, but did pick up a pre war in a pile of reels at a "trash and treasure" weekend sale
a month or too ago, it was in amongst about 50 old spinning reels I was sifting thru,, my wife thought I was having a " turn " when I pulled it out.
Here's hoping for you Crow, anything like what Mike snared, would make it a great bulk buy !!
Looking forward to seeing the Pic's when they arrive
Col
You did good on THAT deal, Mike :o ! These "hodge podge" buys are something I enjoy , as well......upside is the "fun" of seeing just what "treasures'(if any ::)) that you found, and the downside is figuring out what to do with all the "also rans" in the box :D> . Most of the "run of the mill" stuff.....cheap spinners, and spin casters...get lubed, new line installed, and given to the kids who walk by on their way to the river. I figure any kid heading that way (we live just across the street from the Rock River, in Northern Illinois)is a prime candidate for a " Hey kid...Want a reel?", especially if they are carrying a fish pole ! I've learned that the ones looking at their "game boy", or cell phone, usually say, "No !" ???.
The only LB with Maroon plates I received was for about $30 a few months ago. It was so far gone I wasn't able to save it. I turned the head plate logo into a necklace charm.
The head plate was broken and super swollen to the point I had to break the plate more to salvage the rings.
Ray had one heck of a keen eye to go along with his immense amount of knowledge.
Mike and Ray made one heck of a team to say the least,
Dom
PS- Col, a 170 in the bunch would sure make me a happy man. Even though I have a couple myself they are tough finds. Nice treasure hunt!
The LB 60 came today....and it does have the "drilled stand". Not sure of the "date" of the reel, but it's "all there, except for the spool. Should mke a good project !
QuoteRay had one heck of a keen eye to go along with his immense amount of knowledge.
Mike and Ray made one heck of a team to say the least,
Dom
Thank you Dom. Nothing has been the same for me since the passing of Ray. All is in transition.
The reel Ray alerted me to in that bunch was a 1933 Bayside. I really do not know how many exist. I feel we are talking in single digits. That is the kind of partnership Ray and I had. He could have easily not mentioned that bundle to me and bought it himself, but, he did not do that. He made me aware of it. We always were watching out for each other. He left a big hole.
Duh, sorry for the incorrect model. I'm not used to looking at maroon baysides. They are super tough finds. I had an opportunity to own one in the box but it didn't work out. Sad story to say the least.
Ray, was a hell of a guy who made every collector better at hunting rare reels. He pointed out a first gen 10/0 that was like $300 on a BIN on Aussie Ebay. He could've added that to his amazing collection but he passed on the deal to me. It was one of two first gens I was searching for, for quite a while.
I can't imagine your pain because I think of him so often it's not even funny.
I do love the fact that I can visit his old posts. Makes me feel like he's still here kinda.
Thanks for opening my eyes,
Dom
QuoteThanks for opening my eyes,
I did not open your eyes. Ray did. You always knew what he brought to the table.
I've a question....was there ever a plastic spool made for the LB 60 ? Or, is there another "plastic spool" that will fit ?
Yes, there was a plastic spool made for the LB60, also the sea gate which will fit the LB.
Dom
Quote from: Crow on October 21, 2019, 02:40:29 PM
I've a question....was there ever a plastic spool made for the LB 60 ? Or, is there another "plastic spool" that will fit ?
Quote from: broadway on October 21, 2019, 03:53:10 PM
Yes, there was a plastic spool made for the LB60, also the sea gate which will fit the LB.
Dom
Don't forget all those 85s and 285 Delmars out there...they'll fit too. I checked my stock and I have three plastic LB 60 size spools, but they are all newer spools. The period correct spool will have little "shoulders" on the arbor like the one in this photo. 8)
Good point, Mo. I was just thinking era correct, but you're 100% correct about the arbors and fitment.
Also, nice to put a photo to the topic so others know.
Good onya,
Dom
Thanks, guys !
Quote from: broadway on October 21, 2019, 06:48:13 PM
Nice to put a photo to the topic so others know.
Good onya,
Dom
Thanks Dom!
Quote from: Crow on October 21, 2019, 07:03:00 PM
Thanks, guys !
You're welcome!
Quote from: Crow on October 21, 2019, 02:40:29 PM
I've a question....was there ever a plastic spool made for the LB 60 ? Or, is there another "plastic spool" that will fit ?
I'll add by answering the first half of this question, since Mo answered the 2nd half....
The lb60 came stock with plastic spool for part of 1941 on thru 1947. The pre war spool had the arbor lip, the spools after the war had rounded contour from arbor to flange. During these years a metal spool was available as an upgrade option $$$
I should say you got the answer to your question in full now... Ted is a Long Beach expert, and Mo is on top of his game.
Best,
Dom