Well everything started with the lack of local good service on rod repair jobs, so, I prepared myself to repair my broken trevala rod, I really liked how the job ended up, so I bought some materials to change all the guides on my personal favorite musky rod.
but some of my friend also liked the guide repair job so, they brought me their rods for some repairs, so I have to put my personal project on hold.
one was a small repair, just to change the striper guide on a 11' shakespeare spinning surf rod, nothing fancy, he already got one guide that wanted it on the place of the broken one.
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(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8672%20ss_zpsjscgmmb8.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8672%20ss_zpsjscgmmb8.jpg.html)
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the second one, was bit bigger job, the plan was to clean up all the green corrosion on the steel real seat, change all guides and refreshening the stock crosswrap coat.
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8206%20ss_zps7m6cqumh.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8206%20ss_zps7m6cqumh.jpg.html)
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(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8355%20ss_zpsi3vubooh.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8355%20ss_zpsi3vubooh.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8364%20ss_zpsct4hbtbr.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8364%20ss_zpsct4hbtbr.jpg.html)
now the rebuilded rod
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8689%20ss_zpshuvbn4hm.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8689%20ss_zpshuvbn4hm.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8479%20ss_zpsxe4lf0nw.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8479%20ss_zpsxe4lf0nw.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8682%20ss_zpsjhhojbky.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8682%20ss_zpsjhhojbky.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8686%20ss_zpsds0a1nrs.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8686%20ss_zpsds0a1nrs.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8695%20ss_zpsbkpk1a9g.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8695%20ss_zpsbkpk1a9g.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8696%20ss_zpshvsexods.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8696%20ss_zpshvsexods.jpg.html)
my two friends were so happy with their repaired rods, man it feels good to help these guys, see their happy faces when they are checking the rod and still be paid for that, well before delivering the rods I show the rods to some other friends, and now, I have three more rods to fix, one 1 guide change and two of them with all the guides changed too.
and again, my musky rod project was put on hold for some weeks :-\
Nice job Alex! that's how it starts....soon you will be repairing rods and not fishing !
Cool Beans brother....keep us posted on the rest of the rebuilds.....Bill
Quote from: thorhammer on November 09, 2016, 09:16:36 PM
..soon you will be repairing rods and not fishing !
no fishing? well that doesnt scare me much, with an absorving daily job, 3 kids and repairing reels my actual days on the water are not big numbers per year
Quote from: TARFU on November 09, 2016, 09:36:06 PM
Cool Beans brother....keep us posted on the rest of the rebuilds.....Bill
sure I will, they will be ready in 2-3 weeks.
Very nice..!!
thanks Keith
remember guys, these repairs are been done on this DIY latte
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=18922.0
Looks nice. That is how I started repairing and making my own rods. It is possible to repair broken rods fairly effectively as well, often it just takes some patience and careful "reconstruction" with ferrules and or sleeves. I just finished repairing the tip of one of my own rods by replacing it with a piece of graphite from a a different older rod and it has become a perfect working tool again. Not the most beautiful perhaps but will again catch plenty fish and saved $100 for a new blank.
It is a fun thing to do!
I have a couple of those old Daiwa blanks and try to grab them when I can. That's a really nice color scheme you put on to match blank, and I like the chromed Turbo's. Slick.
glad you like it John.
my skills are nothing compared to the builds posted from many members here.
I expecting to get my first full custom rod build after xmas, best fishing season here is around late jan-may
Alex, you will find starting from scratch with new stuff is WAYYYYYY easier than a refurbish / repair.....
Quote from: thorhammer on November 10, 2016, 06:33:20 PM
Alex, you will find starting from scratch with new stuff is WAYYYYYY easier than a refurbish / repair.....
Im pretty sure of that, just taking the old guides out, then with tons of care and a sharp cutter take all the epoxic remainings until getting everything smooth on the blank, very light sanding to prepare that same zone to be wraped again, cleaning it with DNA, its tons of work, Im trying to be very clear with my friends that Im not charging what should be charge for the time invested, with that said, its still better than just watching TV at night, they are happy and Im happy, those repairs are funding my personal projects, wife is happy cuz Im not taking any money from my weekly paycheck, so, Im good.
Quote from: TARFU on November 09, 2016, 09:36:06 PM
Cool Beans brother....keep us posted on the rest of the rebuilds.....Bill
well this are the ones that I just finished to repair, only thing original are the handles and reel seat, all the rest was rebuild, including a light paint on the rod
first a Penn boat power stick
it was already repaired few years ago, but the current owner dont know what the guy that repaired used on the guides, it was cracking and peeling uglily, same guides were used again but a new tip
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8807%20ss_zpsrsvgqhgs.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8807%20ss_zpsrsvgqhgs.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8654%20ss_zpsunyvjvxx.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8654%20ss_zpsunyvjvxx.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8579%20ss_zpseeaqlbof.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8579%20ss_zpseeaqlbof.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8653%20ss_zps4yozcros.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8653%20ss_zps4yozcros.jpg.html)
now this is how it looks now
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9031%20ss_zps0byhdrty.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9031%20ss_zps0byhdrty.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9034%20ss_zpst7gw12jh.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9034%20ss_zpst7gw12jh.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9041%20ss_zpsgx1lbvib.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9041%20ss_zpsgx1lbvib.jpg.html)
this is how it looks with flash (or in the sun light)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9037%20ss_zpsmqnj3ywx.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9037%20ss_zpsmqnj3ywx.jpg.html)
now its turn of the daiwa sealine boat rod
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8584%20ss_zpsfuxldrmx.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8584%20ss_zpsfuxldrmx.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8583%20ss_zps4avdusqr.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8583%20ss_zps4avdusqr.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8663%20ss_zpsfmrgcyu3.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8663%20ss_zpsfmrgcyu3.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8585%20ss_zpsvvx2nm5y.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8585%20ss_zpsvvx2nm5y.jpg.html)
and this is how it looks now (I really liked how this rod turned out)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9019%20ss_zpsg4lut01s.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9019%20ss_zpsg4lut01s.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9020%20ss_zpseqwlg3ae.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9020%20ss_zpseqwlg3ae.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9029%20ss_zpszjpldfmk.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9029%20ss_zpszjpldfmk.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9022%20ss_zps849ri63o.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9022%20ss_zps849ri63o.jpg.html)
this is how it looks with the flash of the camera or on direct sun light
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9015%20ss_zpso3teigjs.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9015%20ss_zpso3teigjs.jpg.html)
and the last was a small repair to a Tiburon rod (I didnt new about tiburon rods)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9062%20ss_zpszljisp0w.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9062%20ss_zpszljisp0w.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8574%20ss_zpspzrku1kq.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG8574%20ss_zpspzrku1kq.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9050%20ss_zpsybsq6ymo.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/2%20Rod%20repair/IMAG9050%20ss_zpsybsq6ymo.jpg.html)
I am really happy the way those rods ended up but I know that they could have been better in some places, but the owner was really happy, better than factory he said, according to is some rods I have seen he was not that wrong.
before getting myself a new custom rod with new blank and accesories I will re-do some of my current rods, Im pretty sure they will be and will look 3x better with new guides and new wrap, my little girl 6yo just contract me for re-do his spinning glass rod (not toy rod) with pink thread.... of course I already have some new guides for it and the bright pink thread.
still dont know if searching for a purple or pink shrink tape for that rod or left the black EVA handles which is less slippery for a child, anyway, thats belong to another job.
hope you liked this current repairs, and if you have any tip, criticism or comment let me know, Im all ears and open to any recommendation.
Alex those look great! I'm sure the owners are tickled. I just received my box from Voodoo and will be doing some custom paint finished with CP on the blank for durability, on Jon's advice. I will post the builds so you know how that works but it looks like the proper flexible finish for a repaint application
John
I have to say I'm impressed with how those rods came out. They look brand new again. I'd love to do this to some of my old rods. I've never built a rod before. How do you clean them up so nice?
Quote from: steelfish on November 10, 2016, 07:13:17 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on November 10, 2016, 06:33:20 PM
Alex, you will find starting from scratch with new stuff is WAYYYYYY easier than a refurbish / repair.....
Im pretty sure of that, just taking the old guides out, then with tons of care and a sharp cutter take all the epoxic remainings until getting everything smooth on the blank, very light sanding to prepare that same zone to be wraped again, cleaning it with DNA, its tons of work, Im trying to be very clear with my friends that Im not charging what should be charge for the time invested, with that said, its still better than just watching TV at night, they are happy and Im happy, those repairs are funding my personal projects, wife is happy cuz Im not taking any money from my weekly paycheck, so, Im good.
The prep on a rebuild is what kills you...usually more time than wrapping by the time you strip, paint, sand, recoat, repeat....let alone if you disassemble roller guides for polishing....more on that to come :)
Quote from: FatTuna on November 28, 2016, 07:04:05 PM
I have to say I'm impressed with how those rods came out. They look brand new again. I'd love to do this to some of my old rods. I've never built a rod before. How do you clean them up so nice?
thanks compadre, john already quoted me on how's the cleaning job on an old rod for a repaint and rebuild, tons of care and patience, if you try to hurry up the things a bit it will end up on big mistake, so take your time, read a lot and go for it, Im really enjoying this part of the hobby, as always with the help of the AT guys, so Im open to help with my short experience to anyone that wants to jump on this with the budget builds and tools on mind.
Quote from: thorhammer on November 28, 2016, 06:54:24 PM
Alex those look great! I'm sure the owners are tickled. I just received my box from Voodoo and will be doing some custom paint finished with CP on the blank for durability, on Jon's advice. I will post the builds so you know how that works but it looks like the proper flexible finish for a repaint application
John
thanks John, I just found out about CPxtra as well but it was after started this builds, but since these builds were stiff trolling rods and checking other factory and custom builds I decided to go with guide epoxic as coat finish ( I know its not recomended), but I read somewhere else that if after mixing the epoxic you heat the epoxic recipient with your torch, the epoxic becomes really thin and you can put a light coat on the rod, specially if you are not concerned for the adding weight which it was the case, another reason was that this rods are not too much flexible, but Im with you for light graphite or glass flexible rods builds, the clear coat after painting it it should be done with proper rod building coat like CPxtra, permagloss or lumiseal, or any other similar product.
with that said and being a budgeted person I went for spar urethane as coat finish on my muskie rod which is still with no guides, if it dont work as expected its not much a problem since its on my personal rod and I can fix it later, Im experimenting with that product (not without a tons of reading on this product on fishing rods).
looking forward your results on the use of CPxtra from voodoo and thanks for your compliments of the builds
I used that spar urethane a long while and it's ok; I found that when you carry a bunch of rods in one hand as I do the guides would chip paint on the other rods. Jon said one bottle will do several rods so at $9/ 4oz it wont be much different than poly cost-wise, but supposedly much more durable. We'll know soon enough. Doing some today.
Quote from: thorhammer on November 28, 2016, 07:52:38 PM
so at $9/ 4oz it wont be much different than poly cost-wise, but supposedly much more durable.
thats good to know John, thanks
I will have CPxtra on my next order and try it for sure.
Voodoo has some really nice thread I don't see at Crudhole as well.
That's great lookin job, especially the thread wrapping. Are ya doin it by hand, or with a machine?
Gfish
Quote from: steelfish on November 10, 2016, 12:14:59 AM
remember guys, these repairs are been done on this DIY latte
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=18922.0
Thread wrapping was done on That manual / hand wrapper made using a wood box, its challenging cuz its not much comfortable on long rods but the ending product is really acceptable, isnt it?
Great work brother....Bill
It all looks great. Just takes some patience to get it done right.
Quote from: steelfish on November 28, 2016, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: FatTuna on November 28, 2016, 07:04:05 PM
I've never built a rod before. How do you clean them up so nice?
thanks compadre, john already quoted me on how's the cleaning job on an old rod for a repaint and rebuild, tons of care and patience, if you try to hurry up the things a bit it will end up on big mistake, so take your time, read a lot and go for it, Im really enjoying this part of the hobby, as always with the help of the AT guys, so Im open to help with my short experience to anyone that wants to jump on this with the budget builds and tools on mind.
I will elaborate a bit more for the guys that are thinking to get into restoring old rods (excuse my english and techical words not my 1st lenguage), Im not a pro by any means but now I can say Im not afraid to try to restore any old rod that I could find on a flea market or yard sale and put it on working condition again, for me thats a lot, I used to take my rods to a local guy but never liked his work oops, thats the main reason I started to find a way to make it myself.
anyway, best tips I can give you to (that are the same I recieve from the AT guys) is to get a new sharp razor blade and a lighter or alcohol torch if you have one, apply some heat to the foot of the guide for few seconds, the epoxic that covers the thread will feel softer, get your razor blade and start taking the epoxic out from the body of the guide to the foot following the metal of the guide, do the same to both feet and when you finishs move the guide a bit to set it free, then with your fingers take the rests of the thread and epoxic that left there, after you take everything you can with your fingers then work with the razor blade from that point to the end of the wrap, most of the times you will find the ending of the thread and when you pull it will start to unwrap so just continue pulling until taking it all out.
If you start cutting the epoxic on the guide starting on the blank to the guide foot you have the risk of making a small cut to the blank and toast it, but is doable to make it that way if you are really carefull I just prefer to be on the safe side and work with the 1st option.
once you take all the wrapping thread and epoxic you will get a lot ot epoxic remainings there, now take an old credit card and scratch the remainings on the blank, you can apply a little heat to make it easier if needed or if you feel confident use the razor blade on a 90 degree instead of the credit card.
once you have taken everything out where the guide was installed you can put the new guide there, or if you want to paint the blank then you can wet sand it with a 600 or 1000 grit sandpaper, not much, to taking a small layer of paint, from there is not much diferent than painting a metal tube, bike, etc.
Quote from: Newell Nut on November 29, 2016, 05:03:21 PM
It all looks great. Just takes some patience to get it done right.
thanks Dwight, specially coming from a great rod builder like you