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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Bryan Young on November 13, 2016, 04:28:45 AM

Title: Sleeveing Spool on a Talica 10II
Post by: Bryan Young on November 13, 2016, 04:28:45 AM
In today's lever drag reels, it's not very common for me to sleeve spools anymore as the shaft is normally cut with an integral spacer that acts like a spool sleeve. When working on a Talica 10II today, I noticed this type of shaft. Awesome!  NOT!!!   They cut the spacer way short. I had to add 14 shims to take up the space.  Now the spool has 0.05 play in the spool allowing optimum free spool at higher drag settings while supporting the inner race of the spool to keep it in alignment and to reduce the thrust load on the bearing.

I used 13 5x7x0.3 mm and 1 5x7x0.25 mm.
Title: Re: Sleeveing Spool on a Talisa 10II
Post by: Ron Jones on November 13, 2016, 07:08:47 AM
One MORE reason to stick with star drags.
Ron
Title: Re: Sleeveing Spool on a Talisa 10II
Post by: Tightlines667 on November 13, 2016, 07:09:21 AM
Thats alot o shims.  

I have run accross similar situations, though I can't recall which models off of the top of my head.  I admut to not taking the time to shim properly for maximum freespool, despite the knowledge that you and Alan have imparted.

I applaud your efforts.
Title: Re: Sleeveing Spool on a Talica 10II
Post by: Bryan Young on November 13, 2016, 07:50:38 AM
If I had thicker shims or if a good machine I would have sleeves it with a shot piece of brass tubing.
Title: Re: Sleeveing Spool on a Talica 10II
Post by: steelfish on May 25, 2019, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 13, 2016, 04:28:45 AM
 Now the spool has 0.05 play in the spool allowing optimum free spool at higher drag settings

bryan can you tell more about how shimming the shaft helps to increase free spool at high drag?

is this noticiable only when casting or even when bait fishing ?

monstly the background of why the need to add shims
Title: Re: Sleeveing Spool on a Talica 10II
Post by: Bryan Young on May 26, 2019, 03:53:33 PM
The spring that pushes on the inner race of the spool bearing mis aligns because the outer race is being held  by the spool. If the inner and outer races are in complete alignment then there would be no pressure on the spool bearing giving maximum spin at higher drag ranges.
Title: Re: Sleeveing Spool on a Talica 10II
Post by: steelfish on May 26, 2019, 11:19:30 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on May 26, 2019, 03:53:33 PM
The spring that pushes on the inner race of the spool bearing mis aligns because the outer race is being held  by the spool. If the inner and outer races are in complete alignment then there would be no pressure on the spool bearing giving maximum spin at higher drag ranges.

totally makes sense, thanks amigo

Title: Re: Sleeveing Spool on a Talica 10II
Post by: steelfish on October 14, 2021, 12:54:24 AM
coming back to you Bryan.

how do you know whats the correct size of the sleeve tube or in this case, how did you find out you needed 14 shims and not 12 or 15?
Title: Re: Sleeveing Spool on a Talica 10II
Post by: creech on October 14, 2021, 07:49:59 PM
shame on you shimano! especially the higher end lever drag model.