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Fishing Rods => Fishing Rods => Topic started by: droppedit on December 09, 2016, 03:58:10 PM



Title: Gold Foil
Post by: droppedit on December 09, 2016, 03:58:10 PM
I'm a rod builder in the North East that primarily builds Cod jigging rods but have been into Tuna rods the last few years. Lately I've been bringing some old Sila Flex, Harnell's and Nep-Tuna back to a close as possible to original shape. What I'm looking for and can't find is the gold foil film that has an adhesive back. I bought a sheet from Merrick back in the day but it is getting pretty small. It's getting harder and harder to find some of these supplies. Merrick Tackle used to be so good at keeping many items in stock but after they were sold most items have just vanished forever. If anyone has a source for this foil I'd truly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Dave


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: Bill B (Tarfu) on December 09, 2016, 05:21:55 PM
Dave, sorry I cannot be of any help in your search.....I just finished a Nep-Tuna with a Johnny Walker rod that had gold foil....what a PITA to remove....Bill


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: Swami805 on December 09, 2016, 06:37:05 PM
I'm re-doing some Harnells, I found the foil at a craft store called Michaels I think. They're a chain store out here. It comes in a sheet with an adhesive back. Didn't cost too much. Sheridan


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: droppedit on December 10, 2016, 04:50:13 AM
I'm re-doing some Harnells, I found the foil at a craft store called Michaels I think. They're a chain store out here. It comes in a sheet with an adhesive back. Didn't cost too much. Sheridan


Thank you Swami. There is one not too far from me and I'll try to get out there next week. Last thing I want to do is go there on a weekend of the holiday madness.


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: 54bullseye on December 22, 2016, 03:58:53 PM
Droppedit
Make sure you do some picture posting during Nep-Tuna rod redo it's nice to see the project in stages !! I have had Droppedit do a few rods for me he does a nice job !! This is a 580 Harnell he rebuilt to use for tuna. Instead of the original Mildrum rollers he put Aftco big foot guides on it for strength. Came out mint !!!   John T.


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: handi2 on December 22, 2016, 04:11:57 PM
I dont do rods but I sure would like this one restored.



Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: Swami805 on December 22, 2016, 04:18:53 PM
I've been working on a quiver of harnells for myself. Here's a 13' surf rod an 8' light spinner and a 10' conventional. I have another 10' spinner in the rod wrapper now. The 2 pics are nice for travel and fairly reasonable on the pocket book. Sheridan


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: Swami805 on December 22, 2016, 04:25:16 PM
One other quick tip, the 805 I'm working on now has white poodle grips that were so faded they looked like cork. I wrapped them in paper towels and soaked them with bleach overnight and they're bright white now. Didn't hurt the grips at all. Sheridan


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: droppedit on December 22, 2016, 05:08:54 PM
I dont do rods but I sure would like this one restored.



I just did one just like that for 54bullseye. The hardest thing we did was finding the white/green thread. Bullseye found some silk on E-bay and we were able to match the colors.


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: thorhammer on December 22, 2016, 05:11:13 PM
Ok you boys have gotten my attention and made a decision for me. Can you advise if the Harnell graphic is original or a reproduction, and if so can you share where I might get one?

Thanks!

John


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: droppedit on December 22, 2016, 05:12:33 PM
I've been working on a quiver of harnells for myself. Here's a 13' surf rod an 8' light spinner and a 10' conventional. I have another 10' spinner in the rod wrapper now. The 2 pics are nice for travel and fairly reasonable on the pocket book. Sheridan

Nice! Did you make your own decals or were they original? It's amazing what you can do with an Alps printer if you have the time.
Wraps and foil look great!

Dave


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: 54bullseye on December 22, 2016, 05:46:42 PM
I dont do rods but I sure would like this one restored.


Here is another Droppedit did for me to use. Again didn't use the Mildrums but I do have them.


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: thorhammer on December 22, 2016, 06:19:10 PM
Fantastic


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: Swami805 on December 22, 2016, 06:22:31 PM
Wow that green is beautiful, I bet that would fish as well as any rod today. Finding thread can be difficult for sure. Mine are newer and I have a fairly good size hoard of qudebrod to work with. I think the yellow is 119 and the red is 325 regular nylon.
Unfortunately the decals are reproductions, I wish I had some of the full decals.  The rods I've been finding are pretty thrashed and the originals were too far gone.
I only have 2 left so I'll be on the hunt for decals too.
Sheridan


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 22, 2016, 06:32:57 PM
Beautiful.

 ::)

Nice work!


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: droppedit on December 23, 2016, 02:42:46 AM
I've been making my own decals. Some turn out great and some, well they turn out. Always looking for a new source or some fine images I can work with. Keep me in mind and I'll share ;)

Dave


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: thorhammer on December 23, 2016, 03:23:23 AM
Sheridan can you send me photo of a decal laid flat and lemme see what can be done. I have access to some good graphics folks


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: Swami805 on December 23, 2016, 05:05:57 AM
Thorhammer, Pm your address and I'll put one in the mail, be a lot easier to copy it that way I think. Sheridan


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: thorhammer on December 23, 2016, 06:04:19 AM
 Will do. I have the same big boy so will copy exactly (if able)   

Should we do some without model number so there is s genetic set for resto of other rods? I think yes. Will send back your label and sheets of whatever we can get to work the best.

Thanks!

John


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: droppedit on December 23, 2016, 09:04:28 AM
Will do. I have the same big boy so will copy exactly (if able)   

Should we do some without model number so there is s genetic set for resto of other rods? I think yes. Will send back your label and sheets of whatever we can get to work the best.

Thanks!

John

If you come up with an image file for the harrnel or a nep-tuna, I'd love a copy

Dave


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: thorhammer on December 25, 2016, 05:01:50 AM
On it.  Will see what we can do.


Bill, Mike, Dominick any of your Neptunas have imagery intact we can work from?


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: 54bullseye on December 25, 2016, 03:03:12 PM
On it.  Will see what we can do.


Bill, Mike, Dominick any of your Neptunas have imagery intact we can work from?
I have some Nep-Tuna Rods and cradles with decent stickers on them. Let me know if you want me to take some close ups ??     John T


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: thorhammer on December 25, 2016, 04:00:51 PM
Yessir email me JPEG if possible and we will get after it.


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: Bill B (Tarfu) on December 25, 2016, 04:35:15 PM
My Nep-Tuna has a Johnny Walker rod and the cradle only has a stamped label......Bill


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: droppedit on January 29, 2017, 04:49:01 AM
Sheridan, did the foil you get from Michel's have an adhesive backing? I picked up a sheet there, 12" x 12" and is a lot thicker than what I've used but with a plain back. I did find some printable gold with the adhesive backing but it doesn't have the brilliance of the old stuff. I know there has to be something out there and it's probably a very common item.


Dave


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: Swami805 on January 29, 2017, 05:08:46 AM
Yes it has the adhesive backing, pm your address and I'll send you some if you want but it might be the same as what you have. It's decent but I get what you're saying about the gold,just doesn't have the same luster.

Here's one I just got with the old green decal that's in good shape. It's a nine foot conventional but they only put 5 guides on it and just red and yellow thread no foil. I think I'll use a little artistic license and add a few more guides and doll it up
Sheridan


Title: Re: Gold Foil
Post by: droppedit on January 29, 2017, 05:17:37 AM
Nice! You know this old age is really getting to me. Right after I posted I went to the rodbuilders forum and did a search for the foil. First thing that came up was Janns netcrafters and a link to what they have.  http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/reflector-tape-eyes/reflector-chrome-colors-half-inch.aspx#ItemImage   Anyways, I just ordered a 10' roll of 1/2" tape for  $1.99. lol, the shipping is 3 times as much but of well.
Lets see what the quality is like and I'll let you know.


Dave