well not really a power handle since the stock handle is pretty good, I just wanted a better and bigger knob, and what better than a Tani knob, this will make my fathom a killer weapon
I wanted to save the stock handle so I ordered another stocker from scotts but I got a golden one (torque 40ld2), just to add some spice to the reel.
seems like it will be a noticiable difference on the knob size ;D ;D
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just need a recommendation on how to take the stock knob shaft out from the handle, I dont have many tools, a hand drill, dremmel with some bits and file, so if you think I can do it with any of those I am all ears, of if you think I better take the handle to a local machine shop I can do it too.
as you can see the handle shaft has a beeffy rivet
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in case you havent noticed it, the knob 4" it bit bigger by a hair "mm" than the stock handle lenght ::) ;D ;D
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it will look really awesome, I will post pics when done and installed it
finally have the time to go through this AT handle knob
just love how the gold handle looks along with the gold accents in the reel they match perfect and the reel looks more vivid Im just looking forward to try it out, although I already have another reel with a AT knob so, I know they are fabulous.
Nice!
on the rod the reel looks 3x better but also feels 5x better than the stock handle knob, it make the reel feels like a $500 reel ;D ;D
I like it. how did you get the old handle off does the new one just screw on ?
well, since I dont have many tools it was harder to take the stock handle knob out than it should be, also my local machine-shop was closed for the weekend, pretty sure they would have take it out in 5 minutes but since I wanted to try the AT knob on a fishing trip, I took my dremel and I cut the handle shaft rivet that is on the back (it was harder than I though) and finally with a pin punch and a hammer took what left of the shaft on the handle, the Tani knob just screw on the handle, depending on the handle shaft hole you might have to make it bigger to fit the "base" of shaft of the knob, if could do it anyone could do it too.
The way you did it was much safer than drilling. Anytime you drill out the handle spindle that is SS you have to be very cautious.
Quote from: handi2 on July 28, 2017, 09:56:18 PM
The way you did it was much safer than drilling. Anytime you drill out the handle spindle that is SS you have to be very cautious.
thanks Keith, feels good to have it done that way, the gold handle got 2 marks from the cut wheel of the dremel but they dont look too bad, actually they look like normal fishing use ;D ;D ;D
Thanks think I'll try it on my fathom 40
pretty sure this was already asked many times but couldnt found it
I switched knobs from the stock one for an AT knob, I didnt drilled the old one out but grinded the rivet with my dremel, the stock know still have a nice shaft left that is enough to cover the width a normal handle arm so....
its there any way to attach the stock knob that was taken out somehow to any other handle arm?
- weld it to a SS or alloy arm?
- use a really HD epoxy to glued to a chrome/SS arm
- etc?
the old knob is brand new and could be a nice upgrade for small reels like jigmasters, abu 7000, squidder, etc
its a shame to consider it trash material
Alex. i apologize for missing your post....the new handle and arm will be a classic add on for sure....others may chime in but I think the old handle is toast for any other uses....Bill
Quote from: Bill B (Tarfu) on November 04, 2017, 02:48:42 AM
I think the old handle is toast for any other uses....Bill
Thats was I was afraid but ooh well
Thanks for comfirm it Bill
Alex- I've now added three of Alan's handles to my Penn reels and each time I toss that nice ergo handle! Such a shame...I wanted to add it to my SSV handles but no go...
About the Fathom...they area nice reels, I have the single speed...it needs two things though...a slightly longer handle arm and 4:1 gears...the 4.8:1 is just a bit too tall for my deep water bottom fishing. I don't have a real need for two-speed...
replacing the knob with a longer thicker one can have the same effect as a slightly longer handle. It really is a great way to make a good reel better... Jeff
Quote from: coastal_dan on November 04, 2017, 01:16:30 PM
About the Fathom...they area nice reels, I have the single speed...it needs two things though...a slightly longer handle arm and 4:1 gears...the 4.8:1 is just a bit too tall for my deep water bottom fishing. I don't have a real need for two-speed...
well, I do practice tug-o-war fishing groupers and the low speed is really hepful on that, so you can do it with 2 speed reels or old reels with 2.5:1, but actually for the size of the fisheries on this latitude you can do it with any one speed small reel with high drag like many of the current options, but like my old man use to say, its better to have it and dont need it than need it and dont have it, so, Its always nice to have the 2nd speed on the reels as an option.
the fathom is a nice reel, but I didnt feel it like a keeper reel, the one on the pics was actually sold few weeks ago, I will replace it with a smaller reel but the new one will be from the Makaira line up
@Jeff, your 100% correct amigo, the longer knob gives you a firm grip and you can apply any torque you need for the fight.
Quote from: steelfish on November 06, 2017, 05:20:42 PM
the fathom is a nice reel, but I didnt feel it like a keeper reel, the one on the pics was actually sold few weeks ago, I will replace it with a smaller reel but the new one will be from the Makaira line up
Those are my thoughts on the Fathom reels. Great reels for the money. I'll be hanging on to my Fathom 25N's great 40 lb. reels. For my needs The Andros 12, Penn Baja/US113 are really as big as I'll ever need.
But for your needs Alex I really think you getting a Makaira is what you need & couds use for those Grouper. The 10 doesnt hold as much line as the 15 but the 15 is really wide. However I found with a gimble butt & lite belt {no need to full strap in} will keep this reel from the wide reel wobble syndrome. However I sold my Mak 15. The Andros 12 holds the same amount of line & is just a better reel for my use...Jeff
Quote from: Rivverrat on November 06, 2017, 11:11:28 PM
But for your needs Alex I really think you getting a Makaira is what you need & couds use for those Grouper. The 10 doesnt hold as much line as the 15 but the 15 is really wide. However I found with a gimble butt & lite belt {no need to full strap in} will keep this reel from the wide reel wobble syndrome. However I sold my Mak 15. The Andros 12 holds the same amount of line & is just a better reel for my use...Jeff
I keep reading that the mak15 is "too wide" and actually is what keeps me hold the "urge" to buy it.
mak10 is little too small for my go-to reel (I might be wrong tho, but I haven saw one in real to change this opinion) and the mak16 is little too big and heavy to be my goto reel for every fishing trip, its just too big for sierras, curvinas, leopard groupers, and YT, the only fish that could do a figh vs the mak16 is the gulf gouper or black seaBass (both are not my targeted fish, but of course would be cool to fight one get a pic and release ) so, that leave me with the mak15, still on the light and small side but better line capacity for those local deep reefs fishing for YT guards or Baqueta grouper on the 300-450ft mark, but they seem to be "too wide" for many guys.
I havent found a pic that shows me how wide is the reel vs a reel that I actually own, like a 113h, 500L, I used to have a fathom star drag 40 (which is was wide as a jigmaster ), newell 344 (which is considered also on the wide side), squidder 140, etc
Im set on a makaira reel but but 'till the next two weeks it could be the mak10 or mak15, less chances are to get mk16 unless I sell the penn 16s, I know they are not in the same class but the 16s is good reel with its almost 30# of drag at full with still nice free spool and also really dont like to have many reels of the same size or line class.
Quote from: steelfish on November 07, 2017, 01:17:36 AM
Quote from: Rivverrat on November 06, 2017, 11:11:28 PM
But for your needs Alex I really think you getting a Makaira is what you need & couds use for those Grouper. The 10 doesnt hold as much line as the 15 but the 15 is really wide. However I found with a gimble butt & lite belt {no need to full strap in} will keep this reel from the wide reel wobble syndrome. However I sold my Mak 15. The Andros 12 holds the same amount of line & is just a better reel for my use...Jeff
I keep reading that the mak15 is "too wide" and actually is what keeps me hold the "urge" to buy it.
mak10 is little too small for my go-to reel (I might be wrong tho, but I haven saw one in real to change this opinion) and the mak16 is little too big and heavy to be my goto reel for every fishing trip, its just too big for sierras, curvinas, leopard groupers, and YT, the only fish that could do a figh vs the mak16 is the gulf gouper or black seaBass (both are not my targeted fish, but of course would be cool to fight one get a pic and release ) so, that leave me with the mak15, still on the light and small side but better line capacity for those local deep reefs fishing for YT guards or Baqueta grouper on the 300-450ft mark, but they seem to be "too wide" for many guys.
I havent found a pic that shows me how wide is the reel vs a reel that I actually own, like a 113h, 500L, I used to have a fathom star drag 40 (which is was wide as a jigmaster ), newell 344 (which is considered also on the wide side), squidder 140, etc
Im set on a makaira reel but but 'till the next two weeks it could be the mak10 or mak15, less chances are to get mk16 unless I sell the penn 16s, I know they are not in the same class but the 16s is good reel with its almost 30# of drag at full with still nice free spool and also really dont like to have many reels of the same size or line class.
Like I posted in the other thread.
MK 10 holds around 380 yards when full of 80 lb braid which equals 1,140 feet, a MK 15 holds around 550 yards of 80 lb braid and that's 1,650 feet of braid. How much line do you need on your reel?
well, I do practice tug-o-war fishing groupers and the low speed is really hepful on that, so you can do it with 2 speed reels or old reels with 2.5:1, but actually for the size of the fisheries on this latitude you can do it with any one speed small reel with high drag like many of the current options, but like my old man use to say, its better to have it and dont need it than need it and dont have it, so, Its always nice to have the 2nd speed on the reels as an option.
the fathom is a nice reel, but I didnt feel it like a keeper reel, the one on the pics was actually sold few weeks ago, I will replace it with a smaller reel but the new one will be from the Makaira line up
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I sold my Fathom to my brother who will only use it 2-3x a year...it'll be perfect for him. My US113N with Toms Bridge will stay with me to the grave :D, it is perfect for my mid-range Tilefish trips...especially with a few choice mods.
Quote from: SoCalAngler on November 07, 2017, 05:49:48 AM
Like I posted in the other thread.
MK 10 holds around 380 yards when full of 80 lb braid which equals 1,140 feet, a MK 15 holds around 550 yards of 80 lb braid and that's 1,650 feet of braid. How much line do you need on your reel?
I know I know, thats why I said it would be one of those reels, the hard part is to buy it any of those without touching them, weighed them, see them, reeling them and make my choice depending on which one I feel better for me (Im really picky when speding more than $400), it would be hard if I buy the mak15 online to findout few months later on a fishing expo/store that I like it the mak10 more or backwards.
Quote from: coastal_dan on November 07, 2017, 12:00:11 PM
I sold my Fathom to my brother who will only use it 2-3x a year...it'll be perfect for him. My US113N with Toms Bridge will stay with me to the grave :D, it is perfect for my mid-range Tilefish trips...especially with a few choice mods.
Totally understand you Dan, I sold mine to a good friend because I know it was a good reel with some good already and he wont have any problem with it.
in the other hand My Baja Special is a keeper reel, with proper care Im pretty sure it will outlast me ;D, I actually have now two Baja reels and both have the CC Tom's upgrade on them, one is my goto reel for drop loop and trolling and the other is a spare.
Quote from: steelfish on July 29, 2017, 01:07:17 AMQuote from: handi2 on July 28, 2017, 09:56:18 PMThe way you did it was much safer than drilling. Anytime you drill out the handle spindle that is SS you have to be very cautious.
thanks Keith, feels good to have it done that way, the gold handle got 2 marks from the cut wheel of the dremel but they dont look too bad, actually they look like normal fishing use ;D ;D ;D
cover the cut marks with a dob of gold paint to avoid corrosion
Quote from: kevin cozens on January 18, 2024, 11:58:11 PMcover the cut marks with a dob of gold paint to avoid corrosion
thanks for the tip, but the reel as sold just few months after the power handle was installed
crud..... been so busy (and sick with the stupid cold) that i didn't take pictures. i use the arm from a penn 12/16 visx and drilled out one of the screw holes to 1/8th of an inch, then added a pair of teflon shims (0.020 inches each) to make up for the increased thickness of the international arm. it fits perfectly on the torque 40N. i checked and mystic parts is out. too bad. it makes for a great upgrade for all of the torques.